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Are Mayte and Manuela still friends? I ask because, years ago when I was friends with Mayte on FB I remember her posting about going bowling with Manuela and Eric and a few other things and I know they met up on that show, but since then I have never seen them together. Not in pictures and no shout outs to one another on FB or Instagram. I admit it is nosiness on my part but I do find it odd- if they are true friends, wouldn't it be obvious? I see pics of Mayte with Shelby, Shelie E etc. but none with her and Manuela.
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I never knew they were friends until lately, but I think it would be disrespectful in a way. I know each had moved on with their lives, but what would be the gain or purpose? Would it have been to piss off the ex, or have deep conversations about life with him to have closure? To each his own. but I don't see myself wanting to be friends with my ex's ex. [Edited 11/7/16 17:49pm] | |
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Yeah, I don't think I could either. At one point they did seem to be genuine friends but I don't ever see any pictures of them together so I was wondering... Hope Mayte addresses this in the book... I am curious as to how they became friends in the first place...
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did taye ever get her dress back? Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND | |
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Awwww.....SLAM! Welcome home class. We've come a long way. - RIP Prince |
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lol...
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They held a memorial for prince in California shortly after he passed so at least up until that time they were somewhat friendly. I read in an interview once Mayte said she reached out to Manuela (or vice versa) because she was the only one who could understand what is was like to be married to and divorced from Prince. It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN | |
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I have also heard that the two are friends. Do not they live in LA?
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wavesofbliss said: did taye ever get her dress back? Say wha? Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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ages ago there were rumors among the fans that manuela wore mayte's dress to some pp show or celebration. Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND | |
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Mayte performed with Dita Von Teese and Manuela was there to support that. I can get the friendship; they knew the same people and maybe had plenty of stories that they were eager to confide in with someone. Sort of like sisters talking about their mother; you don't want other people talking about her like that but you do feel a need to discuss your mom's peculiarities with someone. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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Thank you, Deadflowr--- They must still be friends then. I don't understand it but I do think it's nice they are able to be friends. They do share something no one else could understand, I suppose.
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I think Mayte is very generous in that respect.
I noticed that she' s also friends with Troy Beyer on Instagram. They're liking each others posts and so on. While you would think there would have been some competition between the two of them back in the day. | |
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Heidi said: I think Mayte is very generous in that respect.
I noticed that she' s also friends with Troy Beyer on Instagram. They're liking each others posts and so on. While you would think there would have been some competition between the two of them back in the day. Yup. When you've got true self-esteem you're not only nice to others but you're also not worried about competition. | |
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that must be selective self-confidence bcos mayte is still bitchy to carmen. Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND | |
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that is true and I think she and Carmen were friendly back in the day?
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It is extremely rare to find someone who is so okay with themselves that no other woman threatens them.
The last man I was with, i wasn't ready to be intimate with him but he was. I was not only okay with his friends getting him a high-class prostutute for his birthday; i wanted him to tell me everything he did with her. Boy did we both enjoy that. [Edited 11/11/16 6:06am] | |
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Well, good for you The rest I totally get.
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I don't think it's strange that Mayte would not be "threatened" by Manuella- her beauty or the fact that they were married to the same man, that is not what I find so strange. What I can't understand is being friends with a woman who came in for your man, wore your clothes, took over you position before you were even out the door, --- that's what I find so baffling in the friendship.
. I agree. That was a very twisted situation. Wonder how P felt about that?
"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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so... my intention on the thread is not to bash but just wondering if it's indeed a "real" friendship or just that they've made peace?
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Or maybe things didn't go down as it appeared to those of us looking at it from the outside...there's that. | |
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that could absolutely be true.
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Mispost [Edited 11/12/16 1:47am] | |
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i have never believed that MT was the other woman. they can be friends bcos prince had already left the marriage by 98 in everyway except the paperwork. MG knew that there was nothing for it. why blame another woman when prince chose to leave her? MT didn't steal him away. MG's marriage to prince was already over bcos the children situation proved to be insurmountable.
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. Yeah ... all of what you just said... I've heard that story before, but can we for once try to figure out who is the source for this information ? This story has been going around the org for a long long time now, but what's the source ? .
Any of the mods or the longtime orgers can share ? a | |
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can we maybe figure out the timeline? - there was the interview in spanish Vogue with the pictures, - then the appearance on Soultrain of MG and Prince - the announcement of the annullment - and Manuela - when did she start work at PP ? I heard different stories - that she was Mayte's assistant, that she was selling merch at concerts, etc ? - when did the Come video get published ? . All of that happened somehwere between 98 and 2000, but not sure what the chronology is. | |
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Yeah- a timeline would help to understand if what we've been hearing is even true
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according to an article published in 2009, Manuela was "obsessed" with Prince long before she ever met him. she moved to minneapolis to work for prince. i guess if i'd been Mayte, i would have made my husband fire the obviously infatuated new hire..... EX WIFE MANUELA TRUTH Here is an article by Nick Webster from The Mirror Newspaper stating the real Truth about Manuela. ENJOY PURPLE HIPPIES!
From Sex God to Doorstep Bible Basher Love Gives Pop Legend a New Purple Patch The Mirror/April 10, 2004 By Nick Webster On the quiet suburban streets of Minneapolis, he cuts a remarkable figure. Dressed in a tailor-made suit and trademark stack heels, he steps lightly out of his purring limo and, surrounded by four bodyguards, approaches the modest picket-fenced homes. And to each astonished resident opening their doors to the peculiar group, multi-millionaire superstar Prince quietly asks: "Would you like to talk about Jesus?" Welcome to the new world of the man who once outraged a nation with the song Sexy MF and who changed his name to a symbol. Gone are the wild parties, the womanising and the bizarre all-purple lifestyle. Instead, 45-year-old Prince's hedonistic excesses have been replaced with door-to-door preaching and Bible study classes. Credit for this remarkable transformation, the Daily Mirror can reveal, is down to his mother's dying wishes, new wife Manuela Testolini, who, at 27, is 18 years his junior, and his baptism as a Jehovah's Witness. It is Manuela - the fan-turned-employee-turned-spouse - who has stood by his side as he embraced his new faith and it is she who has helped him return to the musical spotlight after years of obscurity. This month sees the release of his critically-acclaimed new album Musicology and he recently made a triumphant return to performing at the Grammy awards. The bid to recapture his position among the pop elite is music to the ears of Canadian-born Manuela. Prince - who has romanced a string of women, including Sheena Easton, Susanna Hoffs of The Bangles, Madonna, Kim Basinger, Kristin Scott Thomas and Carmen Electra - has never been a big fan of monogamy. But now, in middle-age, he seems to have adopted it with Manuela. But the way he and Mani, as she is known, met and married is a strange combination of fairytale and stalker fantasy. She grew up in a tiny two-bed apartment in a run-down block on the thundering Don Mills Road in Toronto, Canada. She was a plain teenager who, as a high school student, was known as an avid Prince fan. Her passion for the diminutive musician continued at York University in Toronto - where she studied for a degree in art - to the detriment of her social life. Fellow student Sorayah Kassim-Lakha remembers her regularly playing her hero's hits, particularly If I Was Your Girlfriend and I Wanna Be Your Lover. "Mani was always very quiet at college," Sorayah says. "She didn't go in for parties and stuff like that. "She was only ever interested in her art and in Prince. She was obsessed with him. It's all she ever talked about." Mani was a frequent visitor to the internet fan club alt.music.prince, a forum devoted to her then hero and now husband. She admitted to being a "lurker" - someone who watches what others say but seldom joins in conversations. One of the UK fans who did talk to her online was Antony Golding from Bolton, Lancs. "It's all a bit surreal," he says. "She was just a fan who posted a couple of messages and then suddenly she was working at his Paisley Park recording studios... and then she was his wife." Manuela graduated from university in the summer of 1998 and soon after she landed her dream job working with the singer. That year, she received a brief credit on Prince's New Power Soul album. Twelve months later, she became his assistant. Rumours quickly began to circulate that she was more than just a member of staff before his marriage to first wife Mayte Garcia was annulled in May 2000. Less than three years earlier, Mayte had given birth to the couple's son Gregory, who tragically only lived a week before dying from the rare bone condition Pfeiffer Syndrome, a genetic skull deformity. Soon after the annulment, Prince, who was once worth £100million, took Manuela with him to Bible study classes with the Jehovah's Witnesses. After a hush-hush romance, superstar and fan tied the knot in a Jehovah's Witness wedding in Hawaii on New Year's Eve 2001. A year later, in a private ceremony at the Kingdom Hall in Chanhassen, Minnesota, Prince and Mani were baptised into their new faith in front of the 167-strong congregation. A small bathtub-sized pool was hired for the occasion. Wearing knee-length robes with swimsuits underneath, they became full members of the church by being immersed in the pool. Ronald Scofield - one of the elders of the Chanhassen Congregation, Prince's new place of worship - says it was a special day for all. "Every time one of our members gets baptised it's exciting. But this was exceptionally exciting because it was someone who has made a lot of changes to their life. "We have watched Prince since he started studying the Bible and noticed a dramatic change. It's something to be very proud of." The death of Prince's mother, jazz singer Mattie Shaw, was a turning point for the star, who has sold more than 100million albums. Her dying wishes were for him to become a Jehovah's Witness, as she had been for most of her life, and to see him married. He tied the knot with Mani weeks before his mother passed away and six months after the death of his father, pianist and bandleader John L Nelson. As part of his new life, Prince and Manuela pay weekly visits to the residents of Minneapolis. At times, Scofield accompanies the couple and their bodyguards. He admits it can take a good few minutes before stunned homeowners recover from the shock of finding a superstar at their door. Speaking publicly about Prince's new beliefs for the first time, Scofield confirms: "He's so well known that when he turns up on people's doorsteps, it really surprises them. "To see him in a Christian lifestyle is very pleasant. He's doing very well and spiritually he seems to be making a great deal of progress, too. "We go on Bible studies together and work in field service, the door-to-door ministry that Jehovah's Witnesses are known for. When you get past the initial shock of actually meeting Prince, he is very persuasive. He uses the scriptures very well." After a decade of seclusion, the man christened Prince Rogers Nelson is back to being plain old Prince and playing the hits that made him famous such as Purple Rain, Let's Go Crazy and Little Red Corvette. And no longer is he synonymous with Paisley Park and Minneapolis. These days, he and Manuela spend much of their time in Los Angeles or the sprawling £3million grey stone mansion he bought at 61 The Bridle Path in an upmarket area of Toronto. At first, mystery surrounded the purchase of the luxury home by a firm called Gamillah Holdings, until it was discovered that the company's president is one Manuela Testolini. While the couple are away touring the US, builders are constructing a large gatehouse and a new fence, complete with tennis court and pool. Though it seems a world away, the estate is just a five-minute drive from Mani's parents' tiny apartment. Despite the age gap and the star's colourful past, Prince has been welcomed with open arms by the Testolini family. In January, residents of the village of Calabogie - on the outskirts of Ottawa - couldn't believe their eyes when he and Mani arrived in a gleaming limousine for the modest wedding of her sister Daniela to businessman Michael Dykeman. Onlookers say Prince and his wife happily mingled with the other 80 guests during the reception at the Dickson Manor ski lodge. The singer admits that along with a new wife, he also has a new set of values. "There's no more envelope to push," he says. "I pushed it off the table. It's on the floor. Let's move forward." Prince also says that TV viewers are now bombarded with dirty music videos. "Back when I made sexy tunes, the sexiest thing on TV was Dynasty and if you watch it now, it's like the Brady Bunch," he explains. "My song Darling Nikki was considered porn because I said the word masturbate. That's not me any more." But with the new tour and album to sell, maybe the wife and new beliefs are just another marketing tool being used by one of the world's ultimate showmen. Among those with a view about the "new" Prince is Minneapolis gossip columnist CJ, who has followed his career for years, much to the annoyance of the artist himself who wrote a song about her called Billy Jack Bitch. "A lot of credit is being given to Manuela," she says. "Both his parents died recently, too. And that's the last barrier to realising that you, too, will die. Maybe that's the reason for the change in personality. "He was always capable of monogamy but the man got bored quickly. The traumatic death of his baby changed all that. It affected him in a big way. "People are curious as to why he's changed. The joke here in Minneapolis is that it looks like they finally got the medication right."
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damn I wrote a whole post and then I waited too long to post and all the text got deleted! argh | |
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OK, let me try again. I found the old alt.prince forums and found some good info there.
First off, I did find the posts that Mani made on the forums back when she was a fan .. 97/98. But not much interesting there. . But interestingly, I found some posts that were made by meltedman/Dave , who clearly said that Manuela and Prince did start dating while he was still married to Mayte. I consider him a serious source of info, so I trust that to be true. In which case, big credit to Mayté for being generous and kind and forgiving towards Manuela in recent years.
One article stated that she graduated from university in the summer of 98, but if you look at the notes of the album Newpower Soul (release date 30 june 1998), you can see the Mani is already mentioned:
. BUT meltedman/Dave did also post an article in july '99 saying that Prince was being seen with another woman, so me thinks once the relationship with Mayte ended/faded out and Mayte was off to Spain and Prince became more heavily involved with the JW, the relationship with Mani started. But only after Prince had already been cheating on Mayté with other women / AND only once he was ready to become a JW. Which sheds a different light on things, because then it would mean that Prince was simply cheating and fell in love with Mani already quite some time AFTER she was already working at PP and that it wasn't Mani who actively went to MN to pursue a married man. .
. The next album that mentions both women in the "thankyou"-lines, is Rave un2 the joy Fantastic (release date 9 november 1999) :
. Next one is Rave in2 the joy fantastic (releasedate 30 april 2001): .
. But that is just copied thank you notes from the 1999 "un2" album. And from that point onwards, he doesn't do many "thank-you-s" in his albums anymore, with the exception of mentioning Jehova and in 2014 the 3rd eye girls and Joshua.
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