ahhh shit... that does not sound good. But, big breasted girl? That doesn't sound like Manuella. So who was that?

thanks for posting the article!

wavesofbliss said:

morningsong said:

Or maybe things didn't go down as it appeared to those of us looking at it from the outside...there's that.

i have never believed that MT was the other woman. they can be friends bcos prince had already left the marriage by 98 in everyway except the paperwork. MG knew that there was nothing for it. why blame another woman when prince chose to leave her? MT didn't steal him away. MG's marriage to prince was already over bcos the children situation proved to be insurmountable.

I'd like to give MG some credit for not being THAT gullible and naive. I don't know what went down, it's all a little too sticky and messy for me but I'm sure it's more than the rumors are saying.

morningsong said:

wavesofbliss said:

i have never believed that MT was the other woman. they can be friends bcos prince had already left the marriage by 98 in everyway except the paperwork. MG knew that there was nothing for it. why blame another woman when prince chose to leave her? MT didn't steal him away. MG's marriage to prince was already over bcos the children situation proved to be insurmountable.

I'd like to give MG some credit for not being THAT gullible and naive. I don't know what went down, it's all a little too sticky and messy for me but I'm sure it's more than the rumors are saying.

according to MG, her parents have a weird marriage. she was a military kid so she's used to seeing a marriage where one lives else where. also, her parents have married and re-married at least once, so she might not have thought about the divorce as a "permenant" situation, even though it usually is. so with her family background taken together with everything elsE and i can better understand why MG would have held onto a positive outlook about the marriage and divorce when most other women would have seen it for what it was. it would also explain why she kept thinking they were soulmates and would reunite one day. her parents did, right? yes, in some ways that's naive but it fits into her model for marriage.

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also, that story with manuela sounds like a lot of BS. she said in her '40 things about me' that she did a double degree course in law and sociology, not art.

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Are Mayte's parents "together" now? I know they don't live together but are they considered a couple?

We all know Prince was a very private man. I never heard him discuss the details about his divorce with Mayte, at least not to the public. I'm sure it was an incredibly painful time for both he and Mayte. The loss of their son was devestating. Someone posted here a while back that the divorce rate is higher with couple's that have lost a child, something like 85% percent. I think there was a lot more going on than we know. I had heard rumors that Mayte wanted to reconcile with Prince, but Prince wasn't interested. It's just a sad situation, all around.

cloveringold85 said:

anangellooksdown said:

cloveringold85 said:

We all know Prince was a very private man. I never heard him discuss the details about his divorce with Mayte, at least not to the public. I'm sure it was an incredibly painful time for both he and Mayte. The loss of their son was devestating. Someone posted here a while back that the divorce rate is higher with couple's that have lost a child, something like 85% percent. I think there was a lot more going on than we know. I had heard rumors that Mayte wanted to reconcile with Prince, but Prince wasn't interested. It's just a sad situation, all around.

I'll say something that's already public: Dr. Funkenberry said the other week, that close female friends of Prince's said that Prince still had "deep feelings for Mayte".

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I'm sure Prince did have deep feelings for Mayte. She was the mother of his child. However, they did not remain friends after their divorce. Prince went on to marry Manuela and had several other relationships after that. Prince did not live in the past. He never reconnected with past lovers/wives.

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Personally speaking, I had a relationship that ended over 16-years ago, and although I will always care for that person and I shared many memories with that person, we are not friends and we don't stay in touch. That person has married, divorced and is in another relationship and I have since married. Life changes -- we grow -- we learn & we move on.

cloveringold85 said:

anangellooksdown said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I'm sure Prince did have deep feelings for Mayte. She was the mother of his child. However, they did not remain friends after their divorce. Prince went on to marry Manuela and had several other relationships after that. Prince did not live in the past. He never reconnected with past lovers/wives.

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Personally speaking, I had a relationship that ended over 16-years ago, and although I will always care for that person and I shared many memories with that person, we are not friends and we don't stay in touch. That person has married, divorced and is in another relationship and I have since married. Life changes -- we grow -- we learn & we move on.

Yes, but in your case you both moved on to other marriages. That's what usually happens, but their relationship broke up because of unusual circumstances. "Deep feelings" being reported by your closest friends is pretty serious. That's IF Funkenberry knows what he's talking about. My guess is he very well may.

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I believe that you can still have deep feelings for a past love, but that doesn't mean that you haven't moved on.

From the The Telegraph - April 22, 2016, it reads.....

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In 1996 he married one of his backing singers and dancers, Mayte Garcia, whom he had first met six years earlier when she was just 16. In the same year, Mayte gave birth to a baby boy, who died at a week old of a rare skull disorder, Pfeiffer’s syndrome.

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The marriage did not survive. In 1998, Prince began seeing Manuela Testolini, a Canadian, who worked at Paisley Park.

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His marriage to Mayte was annulled (she moved to a villa which Prince had provided in Marbella), and he married Testolini in 2001. At 27, she is 19 years Prince’s junior.

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The couple purchased a house in Toronto – on the Bridle Path, an exclusive enclave of estate homes, and where their neighbours include the Conrad Blacks – where Prince now spends most of his time, and where Musicology was recorded.

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Prince, of course, will say nothing about any of this.

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Prince said: "It’s the past; it’s ‘biography’. He doesn’t do either."

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/interviews/prince-interview-the-act-didnt-finish-when-he-stepped-off-stage/

cloveringold85 said:

cloveringold85 said:

anangellooksdown said:

That article is a re-publication of an old 2004 article. [Edited 11/15/16 15:18pm]

does that mean it's not valid? i'm inclined to take it at face value. who knows at this point. i'm exhausted by people tying themselves in knots arguing that this one or that one was the love of his life or his soulmate or whatever.... why does he have to have one at all? there is little in his behavior to suggest that he did. people were chess pieces to him. they were characters in the film of his life. he rotated everything and everyone in his life regularly- and with a quickness. that's not the behavior of a person who is seeking permenance, whatever his reasons.

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i'm a big believer in the saying "watch their feet!" meaning hands and mouths do and say lots of things but where your feet are pointing/heading is your true intention. prince's feet never stayed in the same place very long. they never pointed to the same person very long either. everything else is projection and speculation,imo. fluffy headed, adolescent nonsense.

wavesofbliss said:

anangellooksdown said:

That article is a re-publication of an old 2004 article. [Edited 11/15/16 15:18pm]

does that mean it's not valid? i'm inclined to take it at face value. who knows at this point. i'm exhausted by people tying themselves in knots arguing that this one or that one was the love of his life or his soulmate or whatever.... why does he have to have one at all? there is little in his behavior to suggest that he did. people were chess pieces to him. they were characters in the film of his life. he rotated everything and everyone in his life regularly- and with a quickness. that's not the behavior of a person who is seeking permenance, whatever his reasons.

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i'm a big believer in the saying "watch their feet!" meaning hands and mouths do and say lots of things but where your feet are pointing/heading is your true intention. prince's feet never stayed in the same place very long. they never pointed to the same person very long either. everything else is projection and speculation,imo. fluffy headed, adolescent nonsense.

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I like that saying "watch their feet" -- I will have to remember that one.

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I agree with what you said; Prince had many, many, many women in his life, at different times, and for different reasons. He adored women, so I'm not sure he would have been happy settling down with just one! LOL. Although, after he became a JW and married Manuela, I think he changed, for the better. I don't think he wanted the divorce.

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I always wished that Prince had that special someone in his life.

cloveringold85 said:

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I like that saying "watch their feet" -- I will have to remember that one.

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I agree with what you said; Prince had many, many, many women in his life, at different times, and for different reasons. He adored women, so I'm not sure he would have been happy settling down with just one! LOL. Although, after he became a JW and married Manuela, I think he changed, for the better. I don't think he wanted the divorce.

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I always wished that Prince had that special someone in his life.

i'm inclined to believe that he did MT the same way he did MG after she miscarried- withdrew and isolated. if it's true she miscarried in 94 it would explain why we didn't see her around that much during and after that. he may not have wanted a divorce for the same reasons that old men get married the week after their wife of 30+yrs dies- they are old, they are used to having someone around looking after them, they don't wanna die alone. it seemed to me he made that statement thru his attorney to look like the wounded party. sure she left him but her background makes clear she is way more savvy than MG and if she started up with EB the same year(marva king said so) then she wasn't gonna waste anymore time being controlled and chidless. either way, the divorce papers aren't available yet and prince seemed to hardly notice she was gone. his feet were pointing elsewhere. for the record i don't think he was fucking tamar- more PR bollucks to get people interested in her project as well as the very "meh" Planet Earth cd.

wavesofbliss said:

morningsong said:

I'd like to give MG some credit for not being THAT gullible and naive. I don't know what went down, it's all a little too sticky and messy for me but I'm sure it's more than the rumors are saying.

according to MG, her parents have a weird marriage. she was a military kid so she's used to seeing a marriage where one lives else where. also, her parents have married and re-married at least once, so she might not have thought about the divorce as a "permenant" situation, even though it usually is. so with her family background taken together with everything elsE and i can better understand why MG would have held onto a positive outlook about the marriage and divorce when most other women would have seen it for what it was. it would also explain why she kept thinking they were soulmates and would reunite one day. her parents did, right? yes, in some ways that's naive but it fits into her model for marriage.

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also, that story with manuela sounds like a lot of BS. she said in her '40 things about me' that she did a double degree course in law and sociology, not art.

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Never knew that about Mayte. Hm, it might explain a few things.

wavesofbliss said:

wavesofbliss said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I like that saying "watch their feet" -- I will have to remember that one.

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I agree with what you said; Prince had many, many, many women in his life, at different times, and for different reasons. He adored women, so I'm not sure he would have been happy settling down with just one! LOL. Although, after he became a JW and married Manuela, I think he changed, for the better. I don't think he wanted the divorce.

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I always wished that Prince had that special someone in his life.

i'm inclined to believe that he did MT the same way he did MG after she miscarried- withdrew and isolated. if it's true she miscarried in 94 it would explain why we didn't see her around that much during and after that. he may not have wanted a divorce for the same reasons that old men get married the week after their wife of 30+yrs dies- they are old, they are used to having someone around looking after them, they don't wanna die alone. it seemed to me he made that statement thru his attorney to look like the wounded party. sure she left him but her background makes clear she is way more savvy than MG and if she started up with EB the same year(marva king said so) then she wasn't gonna waste anymore time being controlled and chidless. either way, the divorce papers aren't available yet and prince seemed to hardly notice she was gone. his feet were pointing elsewhere. for the record i don't think he was fucking tamar- more PR bollucks to get people interested in her project as well as the very "meh" Planet Earth cd.

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From what I could tell, it doesn't seem like Prince got serious again with any women after he was with Bria V. He was pretty much a single man after that. Not sure if that was by choice, or he just didn't find love again? He was always hanging around & collaborating with other women, but like you said, that doesn't necessarily mean he was being intimate with them (to put it a nice way), LOL

anangellooksdown said:

His first question to that reporter was, "No questions about the past, right?" He couldn't handle it yet.

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Would you want to risk that a reporter asks you questions about your dead son , about your failed marriage ? I think he just always looked forward and didn't want to dwell on a messy, sad past. So no, I don't think that he couldn't handle it, but that he just didn't want to have that conversation with a complete stranger and then have it re-interpreted in newspapers en making headlines for his private life instead of the music. Particulary if he was promoting an album, which is why he was doing interviews in the first place.

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In the 80s he was very private, but in the 90's with Mayte he was quite open about his life and putting himself out there, and then once he burnt his fingers (96/97 the way the media behaved when the baby died), he became very private again.

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Just look at all the liner notes in the albums, year after year, album after album. From 2002 he barely wrote anything in the liner notes anymore, because he just didn't want people to talk about his private life, only about the music.

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Can we talk about the media for a second? What a monstruous thing those nannies/that newspaper did (News of the World), after Prince and Mayte had lost their baby, (1) going public, breaking their confidentiality agreement, under the pretense that they were addressing an important problem "Prince let his son die/Prince killed his son", which made the Chanhassen authorities investigate the situation (and conclude that there was no wrongdoing). It was absolutely horrible in the newspapers. Literally, they EXPLOITED the death of a sick child - for the sole purpose of selling newspapers/making profits. Horrible, horrible horrible. As if the death of the child wasn't traumatising enough, that must have made it even worse.

Heidi said:

anangellooksdown said:

endiadj said:

anangellooksdown said:

1) There are certain words that don't need to be put on paper. 2) (a separate thought): when we have truly worked through the feelings about something, we don't need to control others from asking about it because we can handle hearing the question. We may not answer, but we can handle it being asked. He wasn't though it yet.

why have the question asked if you're not going to answer it? Anyway, you don't just get over the death of a child especially with everything else they went through with the nannies, etc. Being asked conjures all of that back up and possibly the loss of other children he may have suffered through.

u forget that prince promoted 'emancipation' as a wedding album and a celebration of family and fatherhood. of course people were going to follow up with questions. he could have put it all to bed in the winter of 96 by simply issuing a statement like "thank you for your concern but my family would like privacy during our time of loss." - or some such. prince didn't want to acknowledge the loss because he couldn't handle the "failure aspect" of it. a majority of men handle those situations in the same way. truly sad and tragic and if he hadn't made it such a production to start with noone would have been the wiser.

It's not unusual to want to share the good times with the world but not the bad. People can say it's a double standard, but I would hope most people would understand, sharing tragedy/failure is much different than sharing success/happiness. Some people also just don't like to look back for whatever reason. The past is the past. He preferred to just keep it there, for the most part, whether it was ex-wives, gf's, bandmates, etc.

endiadj said:

It's not unusual to want to share the good times with the world but not the bad. People can say it's a double standard, but I would hope most people would understand, sharing tragedy/failure is much different than sharing success/happiness. Some people also just don't like to look back for whatever reason. The past is the past. He preferred to just keep it there, for the most part, whether it was ex-wives, gf's, bandmates, etc.

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Exactly!! Prince was mourning the loss of his Son, and he didn't need to discuss it with anyone, much less the media. It was one of the most difficult times of his life, and he was never the same after that.

endiadj said:

Maybe they realized that he treated them - ultimately - in the same way. Their marriages could have been different, day to day, but emotionally he left them both. I think it all goes back to his mother turning him over to his father - abandonment issues. He locked up and never truly let the past be the past.

1Sasha said:

Maybe they realized that he treated them - ultimately - in the same way. Their marriages could have been different, day to day, but emotionally he left them both. I think it all goes back to his mother turning him over to his father - abandonment issues. He locked up and never truly let the past be the past.

this. he never left one for the other - he left them both, in one way or another, period.

wavesofbliss said:

1Sasha said:

Maybe they realized that he treated them - ultimately - in the same way. Their marriages could have been different, day to day, but emotionally he left them both. I think it all goes back to his mother turning him over to his father - abandonment issues. He locked up and never truly let the past be the past.

this. he never left one for the other - he left them both, in one way or another, period.

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The fact is, none of us truly knows how Prince felt, as he was a very private person and kept things to himself.

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Personally, I feel that in spite of his turbulent childhood and issues he had with his parents/family, he became a better person, and overcame a lot of hardships. He deserves some credit for that. He wasn't a horrible person. Just saying.