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Thread started 11/01/16 9:59pm

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There's something about jill

Always been curious why prince put Jill Jones debut album on hold for so long.she was there from the 1999 period and was eye candy for the videos her role was minimal in Purple rain She's always in my hair is about her it's been said. any insight or opinions on why she had to wait 3 or 4 years for her debut release?
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Reply #1 posted 11/01/16 10:24pm

imprimis

High ambitions worked to the disadvantage of the resulting album, as the planning and production, as you state, took a rather long time. Prince was prepossessed and distracted by numerous projects and relationships upon superstardom. Also, the challenges of adapting obsolescent Prince outtakes from the early 1980s to a minimally acceptable commercial product contemporaneous with 1986/1987 tastes (and P's own unconventional ones of the period), and finding a direction for the project from a large amount of such material to reduce through song selection into an album.

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His initial work on the album seemed to be to rely upon what was familiar in his female protege projects, composing some Vanity 6/Apollonia 6-esque ditties ('My Man') or rework earlier recorded ones ('G-Spot').

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As he cultivated his more 'sophisticated' Parade image and sound, this became an unacceptable approach, and he elaborated the material the same way as he did with his own (David Z [co-production], adding horns, Clare Fischer overdubs, etc), or provided more recently reworked material matching these stylings.

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As he reworked large swaths of his own Vault material throughout 1985 and 1986, and recorded many new tracks in a fever pitch, obtaining some consistency and honing the final design became more complicated as there was so many unused tracks being thrown into the dustbin, now on offer to record by Jill or others. Enough material to fill more than two hypothetical LPs was worked on for the initial Jill Jones album.

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He was searching for a direction of his own during this time, and this reflects in the work handed down in a mostly outtake-based protege project like this.

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[Edited 11/1/16 22:59pm]

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Reply #2 posted 11/02/16 1:24am

SoulAlive

Her album definitely should have came out much sooner than it did.If it has been released in late '84 or early '85,she would have been able to take advantage of the Purple Rain hype.Prince could have given her a strong first single like "Sugar Walls".

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Reply #3 posted 11/02/16 2:47am

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SoulAlive said:

Her album definitely should have came out much sooner than it did.If it has been released in late '84 or early '85,she would have been able to take advantage of the Purple Rain hype.Prince could have given her a strong first single like "Sugar Walls".

Only it wouldn't have been the masterpiece it ended-up being.

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Reply #4 posted 11/02/16 9:52am

wavesofbliss

i have always believed that he should have released the family, parade and jill jones in succession. it would have given the non-purple population a better context for all three records.

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Reply #5 posted 11/02/16 11:19am

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SoulAlive said:

Her album definitely should have came out much sooner than it did.If it has been released in late '84 or early '85,she would have been able to take advantage of the Purple Rain hype.Prince could have given her a strong first single like "Sugar Walls".

Even if he couldn't have gotten a full album out, I always thought a PURPLE RAIN II (not followup) but an addiitonal album with the Bsides long version God the love theme Possessed longer version of Computer blue Modernaire Wednesday G-Spot Electric Intercourse could have been released

then Parade could have included Jill Jones(and Prince?)on Mia Bocca since it was in the movie release it as a single.

This way both would have received the attention they would have gotten during those periods. And her name would have been more prominent as a singer (people knew her as Jill Jones the waitress from the movie) but not the singer. By the time a full album came out she would have already had a larger 'purple' spotlight.

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Reply #6 posted 11/02/16 5:52pm

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Poorlovelycomputer said:

Always been curious why prince put Jill Jones debut album on hold for so long.she was there from the 1999 period and was eye candy for the videos her role was minimal in Purple rain She's always in my hair is about her it's been said. any insight or opinions on why she had to wait 3 or 4 years for her debut release?

http://podcastjuice.net/c...e-podcast/

She talks about it on the podcast.

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Reply #7 posted 11/02/16 7:17pm

woogiebear

TRUST ME: If only that Jill Jones Album came out during the Purple Rain era or 1985 even......

mad mad mad

But STILL one of My faves in the Protege' Column........

cool cool cool

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Reply #8 posted 11/03/16 12:51am

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databank said:

SoulAlive said:

Her album definitely should have came out much sooner than it did.If it has been released in late '84 or early '85,she would have been able to take advantage of the Purple Rain hype.Prince could have given her a strong first single like "Sugar Walls".

Only it wouldn't have been the masterpiece it ended-up being.

I disagree.With all of the amazing songs that Prince wrote during that period (83/84),it would have been easy to create an 8-song "masterpiece" for Jill Jones.Also,songs like "All Day All Night" and "G-Spot" would have worked better during that time,imo.These songs sound kinda dated when they were finally released in 1987.

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Reply #9 posted 11/03/16 1:29am

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SoulAlive said:

databank said:

Only it wouldn't have been the masterpiece it ended-up being.

I disagree.With all of the amazing songs that Prince wrote during that period (83/84),it would have been easy to create an 8-song "masterpiece" for Jill Jones.Also,songs like "All Day All Night" and "G-Spot" would have worked better during that time,imo.These songs sound kinda dated when they were finally released in 1987.

It cold have been a masterpiece but not that one. No Clare Fischer. No Violet Blue. That's a no-go for me.

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