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favorite Prince "proteges" right now--Shelby, Liv and Elisa I was reading some of their posts lately on facebook. All three ladies have uber class, lots of vocal talent and thankfully do not fit the Prince protege stereotype. They are cute women without being model-esque or traditionally beautiful, they are younger but not super young (in fact, Elisa is in her late forties) , they are not romantically linked to P, but they love him like a brother.
Elisa's facebook pages on Prince are wonderful. She even got testy with someone who posted a compliment to her that was at P's expense. She also told stories about Prince hanging with out her young daughter on the roof of Paisley watching fireworks. Her daughter at nine years old or so once said to P "Up high, down low, I love your afro" (presumably they were giving high-fives)
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Yep love these ladies. No bitchiness, no shade. Just three great friends coming together to honor their brother. Much respect. đź’ś Paisley Park is in your heart
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Sweet post from Elisa about her husband and daughter taking the PP tour. Her daughter is so sweet. đź’ś https://www.facebook.com/...1511658493 [quote]So initially we had bought two tickets for Michael & Olivia to go to Paisley on the 12th. But then the city brought that day to a hault- so we had to switch it up and they had to go last night after they flew in from Las Vegas. While on the tour- Olivia remembered the NPG room where she told the group that she ate dinner at that table and danced in that very room. She also told them that she went up the staircase to the roof to watch the fireworks- the night she told Prince "UP HIGH-DOWN LOW- I LIKE YOUR AFRO!" The tour guide asked if anyone had any special stories to share- and Olivia raised her hand and told about the time that Prince played "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star" on the guitar and she sang along. I'm so happy my daughter remembered everything she shared with Prince. Here was my husband Michael and daughter Olivia's picture by the purple piano. So cool that they got to see the studio I recorded "I Am" in with David Z, Levi Seacer and Prince. Paisley Park is in your heart
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Cough…cough … A-hum … 'scuse me?… "Disciples ©" is my thing that I say…
If you're gonna be co-opting the phrases that I coin, then you're gonna have to pay me royalties. You can expect a Cease And Disist order in the mail, from my team of 5 female lawyers who keep an eye on such transgressions of © infringment. Their law firm is called, "Executory 10". “Sometimes People Don't Want To Hear The Truth Because They Don't Want Their Illusions Destroyed” — Friedrich Nietzsche | |
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okay proteges then. Much better connotation than disciples anyhow.. | |
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I never see 'band members' as proteges
but I do love these ladies
hopefully none comes there way
but in this day in age, a person can be included in drama, even if they have no drama
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OMG, you purple people and all your issues with semantics..Okay, "band members" who happen to be attempting solo careers themselves. Andy Allo was also in his band. Is she a band member or protege? Mayte was as well. Guh...
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There's no way would any of these be anywhere near my favourite Prince protégé. They were ok for what they did but Shelby is annoying as hell with the near constant yelling of "put your hands up" all throughout the concerts. | |
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purplerabbithole said: I was reading some of their posts lately on facebook. All three ladies have uber class, lots of vocal talent and thankfully do not fit the Prince protege stereotype. They are cute women without being model-esque or traditionally beautiful, they are younger but not super young (in fact, Elisa is in her late forties) , they are not romantically linked to P, but they love him like a brother.
Elisa's facebook pages on Prince are wonderful. She even got testy with someone who posted a compliment to her that was at P's expense. She also told stories about Prince hanging with out her young daughter on the roof of Paisley watching fireworks. Her daughter at nine years old or so once said to P "Up high, down low, I love your afro" (presumably they were giving high-fives)
[Edited 10/13/16 12:11pm] Agree 100% This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money. | |
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EmmaMcG said: There's no way would any of these be anywhere near my favourite Prince protégé. They were ok for what they did but Shelby is annoying as hell with the near constant yelling of "put your hands up" all throughout the concerts. Who is your favorite, may I ask? This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money. | |
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lol well when you think of the reason the protege is developed it isn't an issue. It's just what it was intended. Andy Allo if you look at what he was doing with her and her image was a protege.
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I am not talking about their talent (although I do think these women can definitely sing). I am talking about their attitudes. Most people will say Wendy and LIsa when it comes to talent, I went on the facebook pages of the Revolution members. Not one have commented on this tribute (other than Bobby Z on some other medium stated that the revolution supported the tribute but W and L couldn't make it due to composing obligations). Off-topic. But really why does there have to be two camps when it comes to prince..80's prince cohorts, and then everyone else. At least Andre Cimone made it there.
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"They were ok for what they did" Good grief. :roll: Anyway I wouldn't consider these women protégés. They were band members. Paisley Park is in your heart
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Nothing wrong with being a protege..It didn't mean he screwed them all. According to this article, Liv was a protege. He mentored her, produced one of her albums and wrote one of the songs. http://www.usatoday.com/s...11642167/
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malbena said: EmmaMcG said: There's no way would any of these be anywhere near my favourite Prince protégé. They were ok for what they did but Shelby is annoying as hell with the near constant yelling of "put your hands up" all throughout the concerts. Who is your favorite, may I ask? The Time. | |
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purplerabbithole said: I am not talking about their talent (although I do think these women can definitely sing). I am talking about their attitudes. Most people will say Wendy and LIsa when it comes to talent, I went on the facebook pages of the Revolution members. Not one have commented on this tribute (other than Bobby Z on some other medium stated that the revolution supported the tribute but W and L couldn't make it due to composing obligations). Off-topic. But really why does there have to be two camps when it comes to prince..80's prince cohorts, and then everyone else. At least Andre Cimone made it there.
I don't know any of them personally so I'm judging it on who's music I like the most. So it's The Time for me. Though there seems to be a discrepancy as to who is a protégé and who isn't so some of my favourite Prince associates are The Time Sheila E Andy Allo Jesse Johnson Andre Cymone Delete whoever you don't think is a protégé and whoever is left is my favourite. | |
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purplerabbithole said: Nothing wrong with being a protege..It didn't mean he screwed them all. According to this article, Liv was a protege. He mentored her, produced one of her albums and wrote one of the songs. http://www.usatoday.com/s...11642167/
But Liv was a band member first. He worked with Shelby on a few tracks from her upcoming album too. Paisley Park is in your heart
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we cannot assume everyone is living on FB or in cyberspace, Lisa rarely posts on her FB and I don't think Wendy uses her at all maybe once a year or something
I don't think there are two camps. When Prince died people from all different bands came together and many have and do perform together in some variations of bands. ie Sheila E's CoEd band, the Truth band, Dr Fink has had people from the NPG, Wendy & Lisa when doing a show with Chaka Khan or other shows has had different people. Bobby Z was hanging out with NPG members in 2012 at First Avenue when he was visiting Prince etc
off subject: I did not know Lisa Coleman was Mexican & German, interesting
"yes mexican and german mix"
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I say you have a good list and would agree about their talent. This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money. | |
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Please, this was his official memorial celebration..almost like a public funeral. They could have said something. Bobby Z showed up and made a statement but I am not sure what he said. When they did their 'tribute' to Prince at First Avenue, it was all music he did with the Revolution (or in the case of Andre Cymone before the Revolution.) The tribute last night covered his entire career including the songs during the Revolution period. I am sure the Revolution members were mourning him in their own way by accounting their shared experience with Prince so I am not totally cynical about it. I was moved by some of their comments about P and I do think they loved him in their own way. But a part of me is bitter that they didn't throw a bone to the rest of his career. Its like they didn't respect any of his other work at all. And I don't understand that. You have a point that bandmates did intermingle to varying degrees. Occassionally, they intermingled professionally as well. But posthumously, at least publically, it feels like two camps.
They don't live on facebook. But they did take the time to post a shared video about reuniting the Revolution two days after he died. The Revolution did interviews before their reunion performances. So, I don't know if there is an excuse for not posting something yesterday. In April, I think Lisa actually seemed more genuinely somber (on the video clip) than Wendy did about Prince's death. But in Wendy's defense, people handle death differently. But I could do without seeing Susannah's posts about Prince being almost always about selling t-shirts for Starfish and Coffee..the song she wrote the lyrics for supposedly. Its only the 80's folks who are selling t-shirts (Susannah and Sheila) for some reason.. But at least Sheila latest tribute to prince is about his humanitarism (which gives me a good vibe.)
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Well. I'm kinda over all the mourning and I'm ready to go into the next step. . They did talk about why they didn't do any latter song by Prince at the show. It was probably just for the sake of getting back down to the stuff they knew for the short period of time they had to rehearse. Also you had Andre Cymone who said he hadn't listened to a Prince album after he left the band. He listened to songs but not full albums. So I suspect those are reason they did not. . the Tribute isn't in their control though. Sheila E was originally asked to bring it together and obviously things changed. I guess and feel we have to give it all time. Let people adjust to the loss still. I'm still in a bit of limbo myself.
Keeping the culture alive and music flowing is the only long term hope I have. Not judging any of them. My short term hope is for some Vault music officially released.
fDeluxe performed at the Dakota Jazz Club in Minneapolis last night and before it was all over, 2 of Prince's band members from the NPG joined fDeluxe for the encore which turned into an all out jam session!
Morris Hayes-NPG sporting a little longer doo nowadays took a spot behind the keyboards while the talented drummer John Blackwell-NPG took his place behind the drum kit.
Prince rented out the whole upstairs for his “family” his band was there, he was there, Bobby Z showed up. Ohh the privilege of living in Minneapolis…anything can happen. Cool night!
In Minniapolis after Prince's passing
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I hear ya. But I am more talking about the Revolution's respect for Prince's latter music, notthe respect for his later musicians. Everyone knows how good his musicians are. I just question whether the Revolution band members cared about the music they were not directly involved in. My question is whether these jam seasons with FDeluxe/NPG included entirely the Family music and early day Prince music or if his later music came into play at all. Even if it takes some digging for them to find later Prince music that they like, they should do a little digging out of respect. A bunch of musicans getting together to jam and have fun is not the same thing as a tribute to Prince. Hell, for all we know, NPG and FDeluxe might have spent the whole time bitching about Prince (doubtful, I know, but still its not necessarily a tribute for musicans to hang out and jam in a small setting.)
One, just one, song from his post Revolution catalogue would have been nice (and in my opinion appropriate) for a PRINCE tribute (at First Avenue.). I think it was wrong regardless of what their reasons were... THe latest tribute was sort of haphazard in some ways but Andre Cymone actually worked on songs like Musicology. The Revolution could have learned the arrangement of one later song (especially Fury, Te Amo Corozon, or Reflections.) Reflection would have been quite touchingly used here--after all, they had Bilal there to sing the lead, and Wendy to play accoustic. They reported that they were going to do reunion two days after he died. They had time to do something else.
Paul McCartney probably did tributes to John Lennon that included Imagine and not just strictly Beatles songs.
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I answered that, in my post. I bolded it
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And I answered back that I think they did have time to prepare. But we can agree to disagree.
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oh well. They talked about why they didn't do any other songs at the show. I don't think Sheila E or the Time did any post 80s songs either
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Valid point about Sheila E and the Time. They are coming off self-serving as well. It might be a fine balance between mourning a fallen comrade and continuing to validate oneself. The later day associates validate themselves as well. But they just seem to appreciate more of his music while doing so. I will give the Revolution credit--Unlike Sheila and The Time, they did at least acknowledge and come up with a reason for leaving off his later work from their performance.
I guess it still stings that they were so quick to announce a reunion after his death and seemed so happy to do so...like they got him out of the way, so they could officially do so. Probably not what they were feeling but Wendy is tough to read sometimes and that video clip seemed callous and celebratory because of her enthusiasm..But then again, I did read about her emotions being raw on stage during the first First Avenue performance. Mourning is a complicated process and seeing snippets of behavior can be misleading,
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Eh I would rather all the bandmembers and proteges do Prince music.
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Why didn't they do so in 2012. Were there internal disputes or schedules that didn't align? Just curiouss.
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