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Sheila E knew about the harem she said so in her book and Carmen and Robyn Power said so as well. So some of them knew. blondie1147 said: Maybe they didn't know that he was with the other and maybe they did and one refused to back down and was determined to be 'the one.' If it were me and I did know, yes it would bother me very much. It would have been hard to do that. They may not have known for a fact he was intimately involved with the other; they may have just suspected it. He probably told each one they were the one and they prob believed it.
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midnightmover said: I am a man and I am protesting the gender segregation this thread calls for.
I apologize, didn't mean to offend; it's just that sometimes when it cones to being involved with more than one woman; the perspective/thoughts of those born traditionally identified as female differs somewhat from those traditionally identified as male. Peace and love | |
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It's a basic human instinct to love and be loved. It's ournconditioning that tells us it isn't, and that screws up our thinking in that area. Most of us need a huge overhauling about all of this. I think back then, Prince was young, and it was the 80s and 90d, and like many of us back then he was in a crowd where everybody was doing each other too. Or switching from this GF to that BF etc. It wasn't uncommon back then. Especially for young people who are finding their way. Remember one of the gals, maybe Vanity or Susanna, said she needed love but Prince needed it from more than one person, or something like that. I think Prince always craved love from not only women, but from us, and he needed a lot of it. He was happiest when we sang loudly and gave him that love, approval and acceptance. I don't know why this was. It could be that he just wanted us to love - for us. Or it could be that he simply needed a lot for himself. I think it is part of the high that performers have to come down from after a show, and I imagine it can be addictive. You need more and more of it. Also remember that it was said that he was seeing several different young women but then he started getting serious with Mayte, and Nona left the scene, I believe hurt and angry. We normal people are allowed to date or see different people and see what develops with each one. Remember when that was ok??? Tamron hall said, "You don't date Prince", and just like me as he got older, seeing different people was probably out the window. As you mature, dating is a bit odd. You don't want to hurt anybody and you're wiser and know better what you want. And dating is forcing something, when I think Prince definitely, especially with the more isolated life he led, would just realize feelings were developing for someone around him already in his world. A strong woman can let the man she wants and hopes to be with figure out for himself where his heart is, and be patient while he does so. And vice-versa. That's trusting God. | |
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lol, I'm not offended. I was just kidding. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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RIP Prince I will forever and miss U | |
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Nona Gaye & Mom Say Rick James Forced Her To Stop Heavy Drug AddictionPosted On : December 10, 2014
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In an interview with Nona Gaye and her mom, Janis Gaye said Rick James stepped up after his friend, Marvin Gaye’s untimely death. . Nona Gaye was 9 when Marvin was killed by his father. Both she and mom credit Rick James with saving their lives, getting Jan off of drugs and treating them like ‘gold.’ Shocking, considering Rick James’ lifestyle. With Marvin leaving no will and the IRS and creditors hounding the family, Nona said Rick was the one person they could count on for money. She says he literally saved their lives. .
“After my husband was killed, I slipped into heavy drugs,” says Janis. “I was very depressed. I wanted to just die like him.” She credits Rick for sending them to a clinic to get cleaned up. According to her, “Rick said your life will be better for it.” The strange thing about it was she said it was crazy because Rick was one person she used to get high with. Now he was changing their lives. By the early 90s, James’ career had stalled and only Teena Marie could deal with him and his habit. But Rick kicked it and tried to save a few others. This is proof that things aren’t always what they seem on the outside. Just when you think you know a person, they sometimes shock you. Outside of the drugs, the alcohol, and wild sex stories, this shows that Rick was still a man of character beneath it all. . Nona Gaye also spoke on how she always saw her Dad (Marvin Gaye) and mother, Jan, do drugs and knew they had a problem. Then, like parents, like child – she unfortunately started doing drugs too at 14 and eventually would do them with her Mom. . /
Through all of that, Nona was still able find success on film, rather than following the career path of her late father, Marvin Gaye (1939–84). Nona Gaye made one record in the early 1990s before vanishing into years of substance abuse. Becoming a parent herself in 1997 forced her into a healthier lifestyle, and she began earning notice for her small, but well-executed supporting roles in films such as Ali and The Gospel. She also replaced Aaliyah in the two Matrix sequels after our beloved Aaliyah sadly passed away in a plane crash. . Gaye and her younger brother grew up in New York City, Los Angeles, and Ostende, Belgium, where their father had settled for tax reasons. The marriage between her parents, which lasted from 1977 to 1981, was a troubled one, and both had substance abuse problems, but the extreme love Marvin and Jan had for one another seems to still be there even after Marvin’s death. .
"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Here is Nona Gaye speaking on the phone with TV ONE about PRINCE'S passing
"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Nona Gaye was and still is a beautiful lady and Im glad that Rick James tried to do something. RIP Prince I will forever and miss U | |
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Prince had a song called Donald Trump. Need I say more? Prince was the black Hugh Hefner. | |
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Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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I just read in the book Possessed that Prince and Nona dated for three years. I'm surprised at the duration of their courtship. I hadn't realized that it was that long... That's a lot of crap to take for so long.. Lol [Edited 10/30/16 16:48pm] | |
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midnightmover said:
lol, I'm not offended. I was just kidding. Hate to say it but I agree 100% | |
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Wouldnt Troy Beyer be in that mix up too...? NPGUK | |
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Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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As artist themselves they also understood inspiration and the elements involved in the creative process. Choosing to avoid being the cause or being labelled the cause that might negatively affect them. Therefore I suppose, romantically he was also allow to be the “Artist” and only had room for a muse. It is my guess that most were well aware and knew the rules going in and did not Kid themselves or pretend that it was more than what it is.
As if the choice was theirs to decide that if they had spent the night with the writer of “Let’s Pretend We’re Married” or “Somebody’s Somebody.” As if they dwelled upon and ponder “if,” Last-night could last or if it were the last… each time wanting to deny the outcome’s inevitability and also it’s frequency, willfully ignoring each “pondering” is defining insanity? Not likely… especially knowing what often mused him. Knowing full well when when they spent the night with the writer of _____________ .
But possibly, having once mused him to move his pen (if that’s what he said) once having been immortalized within a write, you truly try to understand the nuance that influenced his creative process, you protect and jealously guard his abilities as precious. Guarding them even from himself, and would choose to leave rather than threaten his success. Who could bear to know and or be labelled with the idea that they in some way interfered with his creative mechanism of his genius or that they have distracted an inspiration at the tipping point of fruition as a direct result of their desire to bind, confine or define his parameters, limiting and thus changing who he was… not when it is the Artist that they truly loved.
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TOB said: As artist themselves they also understood inspiration and the elements involved in the creative process. Choosing to avoid being the cause or being labelled the cause that might negatively affect them. Therefore I suppose, romantically he was also allow to be the “Artist” and only had room for a muse. It is my guess that most were well aware and knew the rules going in and did not Kid themselves or pretend that it was more than what it is.
As if the choice was theirs to decide that if they had spent the night with the writer of “Let’s Pretend We’re Married” or “Somebody’s Somebody.” As if they dwelled upon and ponder “if,” Last-night could last or if it were the last… each time wanting to deny the outcome’s inevitability and also it’s frequency, willfully ignoring each “pondering” is defining insanity? Not likely… especially knowing what often mused him. Knowing full well when when they spent the night with the writer of _____ .
But possibly, having once mused him to move his pen (if that’s what he said) once having been immortalized within a write, you truly try to understand the nuance that influenced his creative process, you protect and jealously guard his abilities as precious. Guarding them even from himself, and would choose to leave rather than threaten his success. Who could bear to know and or be labelled with the idea that they in some way interfered with his creative mechanism of his genius or that they have distracted an inspiration at the tipping point of fruition as a direct result of their desire to bind, confine or define his parameters, limiting and thus changing who he was… not when it is the Artist that they truly loved.
This was an interesting writing. Why do you think so much of what went on "behind closed doors" was kept a secret? I read an article by an older female non-romantic friend of his who said that later on especially he always had these beautiful women around him and that they were treated wonderfully and that he was a complete gentleman. She added that nothing that went on behind closed doors ever talked about either. Why is that? Anybody? | |
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Thanks, that was deep Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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I agree. They all were pursuing musical careers and they knew Prince could take them there. But I think he was also conscientious and caring enough of people's feelings to be upfront and honest about his desires and intentions. If he slept with them all, then he probably laid it all out on the table to share in or move on, and that there would be zero emotional issues, drama, or cat fighting.
It's amazing how he orchestrated his personal life where there was zero drama coming out of his camp for all those years. And it's obvious that his women were simply proud to have been chosen, and proud to have shared intimacy with him, and I'm sure it was absolutely mindblowing to have Prince love and caress you. He seemed so gentle and attentive that I think they immediately fell in love and wanted to stay around on the team. I think I would have too. | |
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that's a nice sentiment but to me it reads like complete bullshit. Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND | |
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i'm not sure that's true. there was plenty of jealousy behind closed doors. according to jill and susannah. i think susan moonsie and sheila eventually bowed out of the sweepstakes. Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND | |
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I meant to put this on the Vanity thread but whatever...🙂
Maybe things worked out for the best during their lifetimes. Vanity cared about Prince but eventually found a way out of her childhood issues by finding religion. Prince didn't like drama and too much of it would've stopped his music and giving and his growth and purpose too. Having a relationship for his whole life that mirrored Liz Taylor and Richard Burton would not have been ideal...LZ & RB were beautif and interesting but also had an extremely tumultuous affair that included alcoholism and a lot of pain. But I guess life is painful anyway for sensitive, creative/imaginative and intelligent types. I'm glad Denise and Prince found some peace in theirs. Shortly after 4/21 I heard a medium who sounded pretty believable (and I don't typically believe that stuff but) say that it was Denise who welcomed Prince to the other side when he passed. I think that could be. Also I realized last night that Justine Walpole's photo shoot of Prince in February where she says something wasn't right, happened on either the night of or the night after Denise's death. That explains his quiet mood that night. One of the photos is on his Princestagram about 6 lines down...he put 3 copies of it there. You know how when Prince passed it caused a lot of us to consider our own mortality? Well I think when Denise passed it might've causes Prince to consider his. Sometimes I wonder if he felt his time could be short as he knew he was having all this body pain too. I could be wrong about that; he might've just been grieving because he had lost a lot of people in his life. I love him so much and think he was quite a man. Last night I was also reading that because he ended his show a little early when Denise died, some fans were real jerks about that. It was as though everyone wanted a piece of him and he wasn't even allowed to be human sometimes, let alone all the other criticism and judgment he put up with for years... But he knew a lot of us loved him. I read where a few years ago some Orgers were criticizing Prince and this one Orger stepped in and said very prophetically that Prince probably wouldn't be fully appreciated until he passed. I think Prince knew that. Which reminds me. Alex Hahn has been very moved and saddened by Prince's passing and i think might express more positivity in his next book than he did in "Possessed". Let's give him a chance. Okay, thoughts for today are on paper now 🙂 [Edited 11/6/16 11:38am] | |
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anangellooksdown said: I meant to put this on the Vanity thread but whatever...🙂 Maybe things worked out for the best during their lifetimes. Vanity cared about Prince but eventually found a way out of her childhood issues by finding religion. Prince didn't like drama and too much of it would've stopped his music and giving and his growth and purpose too. Having a relationship for his whole life that mirrored Liz Taylor and Richard Burton would not have been ideal...LZ & RB were beautif and interesting but also had an extremely tumultuous affair that included alcoholism and a lot of pain. But I guess life is painful anyway for sensitive, creative/imaginative and intelligent types. I'm glad Denise and Prince found some peace in theirs. Shortly after 4/21 I heard a medium who sounded pretty believable (and I don't typically believe that stuff but) say that it was Denise who welcomed Prince to the other side when he passed. I think that could be. Also I realized last night that Justine Walpole's photo shoot of Prince in February where she says something wasn't right, happened on either the night of or the night after Denise's death. That explains his quiet mood that night. One of the photos is on his Princestagram about 6 lines down...he put 3 copies of it there. You know how when Prince passed it caused a lot of us to consider our own mortality? Well I think when Denise passed it might've causes Prince to consider his. Sometimes I wonder if he felt his time could be short as he knew he was having all this body pain too. I could be wrong about that; he might've just been grieving because he had lost a lot of people in his life. I love him so much and think he was quite a man. Last night I was also reading that because he ended his show a little early when Denise died, some fans were real jerks about that. It was as though everyone wanted a piece of him and he wasn't even allowed to be human sometimes, let alone all the other criticism and judgment he put up with for years... But he knew a lot of us loved him. I read where a few years ago some Orgers were criticizing Prince and this one Orger stepped in and said very prophetically that Prince probably wouldn't be fully appreciated until he passed. I think Prince knew that. Which reminds me. Alex Hahn has been very moved and saddened by Prince's passing and i think might express more positivity in his next book than he did in "Possessed". Let's give him a chance. Okay, thoughts for today are on paper now 🙂 [Edited 11/6/16 11:38am] I recently listened to one of his Piano and Microphone shows and I was so touched to hear people yelling out "We Love you!" Over and over again to him. It was a beautiful thing to hear. It came at the perfect time. He needed to hear that, and I'm so glad that the audience that was there that night showed him that kind of love. I wish I could thank each and every one that yelled that out to him. He knew how much we loved him, he knew... | |
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luvgirl said: anangellooksdown said: I meant to put this on the Vanity thread but whatever...🙂 Maybe things worked out for the best during their lifetimes. Vanity cared about Prince but eventually found a way out of her childhood issues by finding religion. Prince didn't like drama and too much of it would've stopped his music and giving and his growth and purpose too. Having a relationship for his whole life that mirrored Liz Taylor and Richard Burton would not have been ideal...LZ & RB were beautif and interesting but also had an extremely tumultuous affair that included alcoholism and a lot of pain. But I guess life is painful anyway for sensitive, creative/imaginative and intelligent types. I'm glad Denise and Prince found some peace in theirs. Shortly after 4/21 I heard a medium who sounded pretty believable (and I don't typically believe that stuff but) say that it was Denise who welcomed Prince to the other side when he passed. I think that could be. Also I realized last night that Justine Walpole's photo shoot of Prince in February where she says something wasn't right, happened on either the night of or the night after Denise's death. That explains his quiet mood that night. One of the photos is on his Princestagram about 6 lines down...he put 3 copies of it there. You know how when Prince passed it caused a lot of us to consider our own mortality? Well I think when Denise passed it might've causes Prince to consider his. Sometimes I wonder if he felt his time could be short as he knew he was having all this body pain too. I could be wrong about that; he might've just been grieving because he had lost a lot of people in his life. I love him so much and think he was quite a man. Last night I was also reading that because he ended his show a little early when Denise died, some fans were real jerks about that. It was as though everyone wanted a piece of him and he wasn't even allowed to be human sometimes, let alone all the other criticism and judgment he put up with for years... But he knew a lot of us loved him. I read where a few years ago some Orgers were criticizing Prince and this one Orger stepped in and said very prophetically that Prince probably wouldn't be fully appreciated until he passed. I think Prince knew that. Which reminds me. Alex Hahn has been very moved and saddened by Prince's passing and i think might express more positivity in his next book than he did in "Possessed". Let's give him a chance. Okay, thoughts for today are on paper now 🙂 [Edited 11/6/16 11:38am] I recently listened to one of his Piano and Microphone shows and I was so touched to hear people yelling out "We Love you!" Over and over again to him. It was a beautiful thing to hear. It came at the perfect time. He needed to hear that, and I'm so glad that the audience that was there that night showed him that kind of love. I wish I could thank each and every one that yelled that out to him. He knew how much we loved him, he knew... I'm so glad to hear that. That's a nice sentiment on your part, too. And I think you are right. I think he knew that along with all the great was going to come some criticism. He might've even had a sense of humor about it. | |
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