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BillieBalloon said: sonshine said: I say leave it alone. If you don't like it, you don't like the idea of it, you dont like her, that's fine. Just leave it alone. No reason to get in the gutter and resort to obscenities and profanities and insults. No reason to assume things because that's all any of us have are assumptions. I'm not really interested in the book. That sort of book is not my thing. Lots of other people have said horrible things about P that have been printed. If you don't like it don't buy it, don't support it. That's how you send a clear message. Not by coming to the org and personally attacking other members or the subject of the thread. In the end prince was his own man. He didn't need us to defend him. He just needed us to buy his music. You can speculate all day, but it's obvious she loved him. Perhaps this is partly his fault? He's the one that invited young, naive girls into his life and got intimate with them. He should have expected some fall out from that. He made his bed, now he must lie in it. Just like the rest of us. I love P like I love my own family, warts and all. This is going to be just fine. As far as the mods go they deserve nothing but praise for the work involved in maintaining this place. I am grateful for their level heads and their efforts to keep everyone acting like mature adults on here. The fact that Prince made these women famous, invested money in them and basically put them on the world stage, none of that means anything? He's getting his just desserts? Unbelievable. I adore P, but he did make decisions that set the standards in terms of choosing relationship partners and part of that was choosing women to be with who, while attractive had limited talent and sometimes limited intelligence due to limited experience, which caused them to behave in ways that didn't always take into consideration his best interests. Now that he's not here, it shouldn't be a surprise that some of these same partners are misbehaving without having him to guide them. | |
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Actually Prince put her off the Welcome 2 Europe tour before they went to Italy Sheila E & Prince reconciled around the Fall of last year 2015.
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LBrent said: BillieBalloon said: The fact that Prince made these women famous, invested money in them and basically put them on the world stage, none of that means anything? He's getting his just desserts? Unbelievable. I adore P, but he did make decisions that set the standards in terms of choosing relationship partners and part of that was choosing women to be with who, while attractive had limited talent and sometimes limited intelligence due to limited experience, which caused them to behave in ways that didn't always take into consideration his best interests. Now that he's not here, it shouldn't be a surprise that some of these same partners are misbehaving without having him to guide them. I understand, but I don't think Prince deserves his dirty linen being washed in public by some of these women. Anyway, ok. Baby, you're a star.
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I just finished watching the series finale of Hollywood Exes (Yes, I'm late to the paty) and nearly choked on my coffee when the groom sang a heartfelt but very offkey song to the bride and MG, who was bride's maid goes, "Do NOT ask me about that song. C'mon...Adore, Purple Rain...Don't ask me...Ask Sheree (Will Smith's ex, who said No Comment), Will sang Summertime. Ask Nicole (Eddie Murphy's ex, who shook her head No), Eddie sang Pary All The Time. But don't ask me."
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LBrent said:
I get what you're saying, but I disagree with what you're saying. MG was a grown 39 year old woman throwing tantrums. Regardless of her PETA beliefs, the world consists of people who eat meat (like MG admitted she does) and people who wear fur. The way to enlighten those people isn't to destroy their belongings, pout, throw tantrums like the baby you've adopted. The way to enlighten them is to behave in a mature fashion that demonstrates that your beliefs are those of an enlightened mature woman instead of a bratty child.
If you disagree with people eating meat or wearing fur, you can state that instead of whining, then upon not getting your way, pouting, yelling, being rude, destroying property then lying about it. Wow.
I like MG and often defend her and give her a pass, but if I had been in Nicole Murphy's place and wore my fur hat and MG would've simply had to feel like she felt. Nicole was sensitive to MG's feelings and didn't wear the hat, hiding it in the sofa cushion, that's why it was acessible to be destroyed. Then breaking the sugar jar at Nicole's house? Not cool.
I think Nicole was very gracious in not whooping her pretty Puerto Rican azz. I would have. Contrary to what P may have made her feel like, the world does not revolve around her. And she ain't gangsta. She tries folks and they let her get away with it. One good azz whooping would absolve her of her delusions of being gangsta. Trust.
I feel the same way.
Perhaps they can can fill it up n round it out with chapters by friends n family sharing stories, memories, etc. "Almost all art is trying to become an anaesthetic and at the same time a healing session drawing up the magical electrics.” | |
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BillieBalloon said: LBrent said: I adore P, but he did make decisions that set the standards in terms of choosing relationship partners and part of that was choosing women to be with who, while attractive had limited talent and sometimes limited intelligence due to limited experience, which caused them to behave in ways that didn't always take into consideration his best interests. Now that he's not here, it shouldn't be a surprise that some of these same partners are misbehaving without having him to guide them. I understand, but I don't think Prince deserves his dirty linen being washed in public by some of these women. Anyway, ok. Whats unbelievable? That sometimes we have to accept the unpleasant outcome that results from our own actions and decisions? And why assume it's "dirty linen"? I suspect it will be quite complimentary to Prince. Give the poor lady a break. It's not our place to judge her. There will be other books. I don't like it either but it can't be stopped. I'm just not going to read them. I feel like I know too much already about his private life. Maybe I'll feel differently after more time has passed but right now it's too soon. [Edited 9/21/16 5:02am] It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN | |
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I find the whole reality show craze to be pretty distasteful. I have never watched MG's show. However, I think she has a right to make money. I am surprised she hasn't been on "Dancing with the Stars," but who knows what will happen around the time she needs to promote her book. I don't have a problem with the book, either. I have already pre-ordered it. Oprah should do the interview with her, and they should discuss the infamous 1996 interview. Let her alone. [Edited 9/21/16 5:16am] | |
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It is not our place or hers to judge Prince either; if she never married him we would not have this discussion.
Prince lived his life and died alone. His death was tragic. I don't get why he needs to be trodded upon in death by an ex wife . It is sad. | |
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I'm tired of reading about Mayte..I'm tired of hearing about this book.. IMHO she's made a living off being Prince's ex for 20 yrs..and it's continuing. She's never had to work at McDonalds.. Why all the attention.. Our beloved Prince isn't here to defend himself..This is not Mayte.org Until the end of time | |
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Vashtix said:
It is not our place or hers to judge Prince either; if she never married him we would not have this discussion.
Prince lived his life and died alone. His death was tragic. I don't get why he needs to be trodded upon in death by an ex wife . It is sad. How is she judging him and trodding upon him?? And I agree this is not mayte.org. Both wives have been overly discussed imo. But some members can't seem to stop making threads about them. It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN | |
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And to me that is the issue Rogifan.
It is not about whatever she will say, it is about the fact that 1. as a private person and throughout his life he did all he could to keep this stuff privite, even stopping her previous attempt and 2. He is not here to either defend or cooborate what is written.
Anything can be said and it will be taken as the gospet truth when it could be the devil's own lies....who is to know. Because of their half-baked mistakes, we get ice cream, no cake; all lies, no truth; is it fair to Kill the YOUTH ~~ Party Up | |
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He is dead he can no longer speak for himself that right there is trodding on him and disrespectful imo Since he is no longer here anything she says is suspect and a last word for the dead and that is not right. Makes me question loads of things about her and motives. That is all I do know if she truly loved him - we would not be having this discussion and that book would not be a reality. That is all
BrklynDiamond said it best
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Hmmm, I see Delilah weighed in on this subject on Twitter overnight and she's not happy because of the apparent money making off the death of someone so private.....
From my point of view its simple:
Was Prince a private person? Yes
Did he make people sign confidentiality agreements? Yes
Would those expire on his death? Yes
Now, whilst from a moral point of view some may argue that knowing the above and then speaking out as soon as he has passed is questionable (and I would entirely agree ordinarily) there is another point to note, one which someone has mentioned already on here and one which changes everything IMO:
Prince was writing his memoirs!!!
If it was to be a really truthful account of his life then it would have included his loves, and his losses and lets face it Mayte was a part of his life for around a decade if you go from first meeting through to divorce. In fact for her not to feature in his book, given the length of their relationship and the heavy psychological burden as a result of the lost children would be nothing short of lying on his part.
So if we assume it at least would have touched on their relationship, is it OK for him to write about it and not her? People are saying its unfair that she's doing this now because he was private and he's not here to defend himself, (but then she couldn't do it when he was here could she) Firstly, Prince was sweeping privacy aside if he was writing his memoirs, secondly who says there will be anything in Mayte's book that would require him to defend himself, and thirdly...very key.....had Prince lived and written his memoirs, if there was anything contentious in there relating to Mayte, Mayte would have been alive and unable to defend herself due to the confidentiality agreement. Is that fair?
There is a double standard here, she may be famous because of him, but their history is a shared one and neither has more or less right to speak about it than the other, and both would have made money from their books. | |
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[quote] sonshine said: Ok, this is confusing to me. So is he saying the song was, or wasn't, about Vanity? He makes it sound like everyone (including Vanity?) would immediately assume it was about her, yet he goes on to ask why would anyone would be so presumptuous. So is his point that nothing is as it appears, or seems? (Or at least 9 out of 10 things?) Reminds me of something I heard years ago and keep in the back of my mind all the time: Believe none of what you see, and half of what you hear. Or is it none of what you hear, and half of what you see? No matter. The point is the same. (Don't mean to stare this off topic. Just wanted to answer your question.) His statement stems from the fact that there was a rumor going around that 'The Beautiful Ones' was written for Susannah Melovin. Prince was trying to clear up that rumor, saying that the song wasn't inspired by Susannah Melvoin at all, but had lyrics specifically written for the Purple Rain scene between Apples and Morris sitting around the table with him performing on stage and singing 'Do you want him or do you want me.' Other parts he said was inspired by Vanity leaving his camp. Some believe that he might have been miffed at SM at the time and that is why he said it, but I don't believe that to be the case, I think he really wanted to set the record straight. I guess as fans we still have the option to choose which ever ex girlfriend's rumor we want to believe the song was written for. So whoever your favorite associate is, knock yourself out. I'm team Vanity, lol [Edited 9/22/16 6:50am] | |
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Kitten said: Hmmm, I see Delilah weighed in on this subject on Twitter overnight and she's not happy because of the apparent money making off the death of someone so private.....
From my point of view its simple:
Was Prince a private person? Yes
Did he make people sign confidentiality agreements? Yes
Would those expire on his death? Yes
Now, whilst from a moral point of view some may argue that knowing the above and then speaking out as soon as he has passed is questionable (and I would entirely agree ordinarily) there is another point to note, one which someone has mentioned already on here and one which changes everything IMO:
Prince was writing his memoirs!!!
If it was to be a really truthful account of his life then it would have included his loves, and his losses and lets face it Mayte was a part of his life for around a decade if you go from first meeting through to divorce. In fact for her not to feature in his book, given the length of their relationship and the heavy psychological burden as a result of the lost children would be nothing short of lying on his part.
So if we assume it at least would have touched on their relationship, is it OK for him to write about it and not her? People are saying its unfair that she's doing this now because he was private and he's not here to defend himself, (but then she couldn't do it when he was here could she) Firstly, Prince was sweeping privacy aside if he was writing his memoirs, secondly who says there will be anything in Mayte's book that would require him to defend himself, and thirdly...very key.....had Prince lived and written his memoirs, if there was anything contentious in there relating to Mayte, Mayte would have been alive and unable to defend herself due to the confidentiality agreement. Is that fair?
There is a double standard here, she may be famous because of him, but their history is a shared one and neither has more or less right to speak about it than the other, and both would have made money from their books. Very good points. It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN | |
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luvgirl said:[quote] sonshine said: Ok, this is confusing to me. So is he saying the song was, or wasn't, about Vanity? He makes it sound like everyone (including Vanity?) would immediately assume it was about her, yet he goes on to ask why would anyone would be so presumptuous. So is his point that nothing is as it appears, or seems? (Or at least 9 out of 10 things?) Reminds me of something I heard years ago and keep in the back of my mind all the time: Believe none of what you see, and half of what you hear. Or is it none of what you hear, and half of what you see? No matter. The point is the same. (Don't mean to stare this off topic. Just wanted to answer your question.) His statement stems from the fact that there was a rumor going around that 'The Beautiful Ones' was written for Susannah Melovin. Prince was trying to clear up that rumor, saying that the song wasn't inspired by Susannah Melvoin at all, but had lyrics specifically written for the Purple Rain scene between Apples and Morris sitting around the table with him performing on stage and singing 'Do you want him or do you want me.' Other parts he said was inspired by Vanity leaving his camp. Some believe that he might have been miffed at SM at the time and that is why he said it, but I don't believe that to be the case, I think he really wanted to set the record straight. I guess as fans we still have the option to choose which ever ex girlfriend's rumor we want to believe the song was written for. So whoever your favorite associate is, knock yourself out. I'm team Vanity, lol [Edited 9/22/16 6:50am] Thank you for that insight Makes total sense now. I wasn't aware of that particular behind the scenes "drama", and I imagine given the number of girlfriends and fiancee's he had this was a constant factor in his offstage life It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN | |
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Kitten said: Hmmm, I see Delilah weighed in on this subject on Twitter overnight and she's not happy because of the apparent money making off the death of someone so private.....
From my point of view its simple:
Was Prince a private person? Yes
Did he make people sign confidentiality agreements? Yes
Would those expire on his death? Yes
Now, whilst from a moral point of view some may argue that knowing the above and then speaking out as soon as he has passed is questionable (and I would entirely agree ordinarily) there is another point to note, one which someone has mentioned already on here and one which changes everything IMO:
Prince was writing his memoirs!!!
If it was to be a really truthful account of his life then it would have included his loves, and his losses and lets face it Mayte was a part of his life for around a decade if you go from first meeting through to divorce. In fact for her not to feature in his book, given the length of their relationship and the heavy psychological burden as a result of the lost children would be nothing short of lying on his part.
So if we assume it at least would have touched on their relationship, is it OK for him to write about it and not her? People are saying its unfair that she's doing this now because he was private and he's not here to defend himself, (but then she couldn't do it when he was here could she) Firstly, Prince was sweeping privacy aside if he was writing his memoirs, secondly who says there will be anything in Mayte's book that would require him to defend himself, and thirdly...very key.....had Prince lived and written his memoirs, if there was anything contentious in there relating to Mayte, Mayte would have been alive and unable to defend herself due to the confidentiality agreement. Is that fair?
There is a double standard here, she may be famous because of him, but their history is a shared one and neither has more or less right to speak about it than the other, and both would have made money from their books. I dont think it's her place to tell mayte not to speak on HER marriage or the tragedy of loosing Two children.she wasnt around. | |
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And lets be honest I'd rather hear this story from the true source than an unauthorized author. | |
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Mayte fired back at Wendy Williams about the book. Mayte said it is a love story not a tell all. I really don't believe she will paint him in a bad light. I believe she loved (still does) him too much to do so. | |
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Well thought out and insightfull Kitten...
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Yes to both of these Comments. Prince was writting he memoirs and I wonder how he was going to approch that time in his life losing babies, marriage etc.. I think Mayte has a right to tell he story and now is the best time while the Iron is hot.. also I dont think it will be a tell all.. she still loved him.. [Edited 9/22/16 15:43pm] | |
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Kitten said: Hmmm, I see Delilah weighed in on this subject on Twitter overnight and she's not happy because of the apparent money making off the death of someone so private.....
From my point of view its simple:
Was Prince a private person? Yes
Did he make people sign confidentiality agreements? Yes
Would those expire on his death? Yes
Now, whilst from a moral point of view some may argue that knowing the above and then speaking out as soon as he has passed is questionable (and I would entirely agree ordinarily) there is another point to note, one which someone has mentioned already on here and one which changes everything IMO:
Prince was writing his memoirs!!!
If it was to be a really truthful account of his life then it would have included his loves, and his losses and lets face it Mayte was a part of his life for around a decade if you go from first meeting through to divorce. In fact for her not to feature in his book, given the length of their relationship and the heavy psychological burden as a result of the lost children would be nothing short of lying on his part.
So if we assume it at least would have touched on their relationship, is it OK for him to write about it and not her? People are saying its unfair that she's doing this now because he was private and he's not here to defend himself, (but then she couldn't do it when he was here could she) Firstly, Prince was sweeping privacy aside if he was writing his memoirs, secondly who says there will be anything in Mayte's book that would require him to defend himself, and thirdly...very key.....had Prince lived and written his memoirs, if there was anything contentious in there relating to Mayte, Mayte would have been alive and unable to defend herself due to the confidentiality agreement. Is that fair?
There is a double standard here, she may be famous because of him, but their history is a shared one and neither has more or less right to speak about it than the other, and both would have made money from their books. Prince's memoir was a document of his life and career. Mayte's book is about her relationship with Prince, her "love story" as she puts it. The two books are coming from different places. If Prince had published anything contentious about Mayte of course she could have defended herself , agreement or no agreement. Prince's book would not have been marketed as a tell all about his relationships but a biography of his life Mayte has one and only one reason for writing her book and that's to reveal the intimate details of her relationship with Prince. You can't even compare the 2 books because they're both different entities. Baby, you're a star.
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I'm gonna say that I think this is something that applies to almost everything. I do think this is very in line with the man and how he thought. Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end | |
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OMG WENDY WILLIAMS IS A HORRENDOUS HUMAN BEING @WendyWilliams I'm beyond saddened by your comments on your show about Prince & my son. How dare you say something - of our baby! #karma | |
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