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Reply #210 posted 10/25/16 2:42pm

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tigerlilyluv said:



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Listening to Jill's interview it appears Prince did give her an ultimatum, to choose. That wasn't fair to her at all... To choose 5,000 for lead and have Prince or much, much more money for a role and a career in music and movies. She was going to lose either way.
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True, but I think she was only speculating and giving her opinion on the matter. Unless Vanity confided in her. For some reason I doubt that she would have divulged such intimate details to her rival even though they tried to make the best of the situation they found themselves in. They couldn't have been that close right??? I mean come on! Lol


Denise was friends with nearly all of his exes--even his wives. She was very sweet and friendly and always spoke lovely things about those women. I don't think she was the jealous type. And if she was "the finest woman in the world", people thought she was beautiful, and people wanted her (even though she said she was not happy), she probably never thought of Jill, Susan, Susannah, etc as competition. So she just might have told Jill. I guess. Lol. It was very sweet what Jill said about her.
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Reply #211 posted 10/25/16 5:59pm

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True, but I think she was only speculating and giving her opinion on the matter. Unless Vanity confided in her. For some reason I doubt that she would have divulged such intimate details to her rival even though they tried to make the best of the situation they found themselves in. They couldn't have been that close right??? I mean come on! Lol


Denise was friends with nearly all of his exes--even his wives. She was very sweet and friendly and always spoke lovely things about those women. I don't think she was the jealous type. And if she was "the finest woman in the world", people thought she was beautiful, and people wanted her (even though she said she was not happy), she probably never thought of Jill, Susan, Susannah, etc as competition. So she just might have told Jill. I guess. Lol. It was very sweet what Jill said about her.
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Good point about her being so gorgeous that she wasn't worried about competition. I think she did have competition nonetheless as Prince proved that it was more than being just drop dead gorgeous with all the women he was still seeing while he was with her. ( so yea, she needed to be worried a little wink ) Jill WAS sweet for saying such lovely things about her. I thought that was real classy.
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Reply #212 posted 10/25/16 7:35pm

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Just cam across this again and saw the letter the OP typed out for us on the first page differently.
I saw it in a non-romantic way and then it made sense.
He's helping her know it's going to be okay after physical passing.

And then he says basically, that this is what he thinks when thinking of her and then says, Think of me sometimes too and it will make things easier for you.


Actually very deep and spiritual meanings here that show something an experienced spiritual teacher and a friend would say to comfort someone.
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Reply #213 posted 10/25/16 7:48pm

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Just cam across this again and saw the letter the OP typed out for us on the first page differently. I saw it in a non-romantic way and then it made sense. He's helping her know it's going to be okay after physical passing. And then he says basically, that this is what he thinks when thinking of her and then says, Think of me sometimes too and it will make things easier for you. Actually very deep and spiritual meanings here that show something an experienced spiritual teacher and a friend would say to comfort someone.

Thanks I never thought of that, very deep indeed biggrin

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Reply #214 posted 10/26/16 4:59am

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Goddess4Real said:



anangellooksdown said:


Just cam across this again and saw the letter the OP typed out for us on the first page differently. I saw it in a non-romantic way and then it made sense. He's helping her know it's going to be okay after physical passing. And then he says basically, that this is what he thinks when thinking of her and then says, Think of me sometimes too and it will make things easier for you. Actually very deep and spiritual meanings here that show something an experienced spiritual teacher and a friend would say to comfort someone.


Thanks I never thought of that, very deep indeed biggrin



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Reply #215 posted 10/26/16 11:17am

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luvgirl said:

tigerlilyluv said:



Denise was friends with nearly all of his exes--even his wives. She was very sweet and friendly and always spoke lovely things about those women. I don't think she was the jealous type. And if she was "the finest woman in the world", people thought she was beautiful, and people wanted her (even though she said she was not happy), she probably never thought of Jill, Susan, Susannah, etc as competition. So she just might have told Jill. I guess. Lol. It was very sweet what Jill said about her.
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Good point about her being so gorgeous that she wasn't worried about competition. I think she did have competition nonetheless as Prince proved that it was more than being just drop dead gorgeous with all the women he was still seeing while he was with her. ( so yea, she needed to be worried a little wink ) Jill WAS sweet for saying such lovely things about her. I thought that was real classy.
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I do agree with you. I wonder how close Denise was with Jill in her last few years.
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Reply #216 posted 10/26/16 4:49pm

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Here is the latest instalment of Prince & Vanity (The Supernatural Lovers) Part 6

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Reply #217 posted 10/27/16 6:06am

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Here is the latest instalment of Prince & Vanity (The Supernatural Lovers) Part 6

Where is all this info coming from? About the spirits haunting Prince's houses being the reason for him demolishing them and Manuela thinking he was on drugs and telling him to get rid of his enablers?

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Reply #218 posted 10/27/16 9:21am

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Goddess4Real said:


Here is the latest instalment of Prince & Vanity (The Supernatural Lovers) Part 6






Where is all this info coming from? About the spirits haunting Prince's houses being the reason for him demolishing them and Manuela thinking he was on drugs and telling him to get rid of his enablers?



I want to know the same due to there being some much that was alleging demonic association
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Reply #219 posted 10/27/16 5:39pm

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doh! it's from Fiona3000 YT thumbs up! https://www.youtube.com/u...000/videos or I will just repost Prince and Vanity (Supernatural Lovers) Part 1-6 here biggrin

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Reply #220 posted 10/27/16 5:44pm

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I will also post Part 7 when it becomes available here as well biggrin

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Reply #221 posted 10/28/16 2:09am

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I will also post Part 7 when it becomes available here as well biggrin

Thanks, but that did not answer my question. I'd like to knowwhere that person is getting the info. How do they know Manuela confronted Prince for doing drugs and telling him to get rid of enablers? Cause if this is true, it could explain the not wanting to have the divorce papers disclosed to the public, but I'd like to know the source for this info? And the whole house demolishing thing?

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Reply #222 posted 10/28/16 11:14am

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I could be wrong but I thought there was a topic here about something Mannie posted on her FBook regarding P and her not wanting him to end up like this other celebrity that was in the news? I think the post is old though. I can't remember.

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Goddess4Real said:


I will also post Part 7 when it becomes available here as well biggrin













Thanks, but that did not answer my question. I'd like to knowwhere that person is getting the info. How do they know Manuela confronted Prince for doing drugs and telling him to get rid of enablers? Cause if this is true, it could explain the not wanting to have the divorce papers disclosed to the public, but I'd like to know the source for this info? And the whole house demolishing thing?

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Reply #223 posted 10/28/16 7:24pm

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MMJas said:

Goddess4Real said:

I will also post Part 7 when it becomes available here as well biggrin

Fiona is on twitter

Thanks, but that did not answer my question. I'd like to knowwhere that person is getting the info. How do they know Manuela confronted Prince for doing drugs and telling him to get rid of enablers? Cause if this is true, it could explain the not wanting to have the divorce papers disclosed to the public, but I'd like to know the source for this info? And the whole house demolishing thing?

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Well Fiona3000 is also is on twitter https://twitter.com/IamFiona3000 that would be a good starting point.

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Reply #224 posted 10/29/16 2:19pm

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Reply #225 posted 10/29/16 3:10pm

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when someone dies I always expect the narrative to change but I am wondering why does it take death for this to happened if prince hadn't died which I wish was the case this thread would not be happenning now nor was it happenning in the following weeks after her death at least the ones that I read and if this love of his life romeo & juliet twilight type narrative didn't exsit before death then how come it exsit now and why the hierarchy there was so many different women that was on the scene now and then when she met prince that she was one of many and what good does it do to change the narrative to make her the one now .

The narrative is not changing; events in life changed the narrative.

Denise died- Prince was shattered and dedicated concerts etc. ; he went to the funeral- he died weeks after.

It is simple.

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Reply #226 posted 10/29/16 4:33pm

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Vashtix said:

Lola49purplebluerain said:

when someone dies I always expect the narrative to change but I am wondering why does it take death for this to happened if prince hadn't died which I wish was the case this thread would not be happenning now nor was it happenning in the following weeks after her death at least the ones that I read and if this love of his life romeo & juliet twilight type narrative didn't exsit before death then how come it exsit now and why the hierarchy there was so many different women that was on the scene now and then when she met prince that she was one of many and what good does it do to change the narrative to make her the one now .

The narrative is not changing; events in life changed the narrative.

Denise died- Prince was shattered and dedicated concerts etc. ; he went to the funeral- he died weeks after.

It is simple.

Yuuup sad

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Reply #227 posted 10/29/16 7:02pm

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Vanity at the Congo premiere in 1995

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Reply #228 posted 10/30/16 8:00pm

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Goddess4Real said:

Vashtix said:

The narrative is not changing; events in life changed the narrative.

Denise died- Prince was shattered and dedicated concerts etc. ; he went to the funeral- he died weeks after.

It is simple.

Yuuup sad

He didnt go to Denise's Funeral, He had a Concert in Oakland where Apples, Jill Jones and Others met him and caught up and remembered Denise.

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Reply #229 posted 10/30/16 9:35pm

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Vanity at the Congo premiere in 1995







Have you come across any videos of her from like 2000 to 2011? I saw and saved a couple of her sermons. I think those videos might be 2013 or 2014. I'm guessing on that. smile I searched a while for the video that she's in and she's wearing a nice pink outfit. It looks like she might have been a guest at some church. I will look for that photo if you don't know what video I'm talking about.
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Reply #230 posted 10/30/16 9:45pm

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fanoftheman said:

Goddess4Real said:

Yuuup sad

He didnt go to Denise's Funeral, He had a Concert in Oakland where Apples, Jill Jones and Others met him and caught up and remembered Denise.

Well according to Vargas Sieloff his clothes designer in the early 80s he was there. She just saw him in February at the “Life Celebration Ceremony” after the death of Prince’s former girlfriend Denise Matthews, known as Vanity. Vargas Sieloff said Prince was mobbed by selfie-seeking fans. He sat in the church balcony and left before the service ended. “He looked very frail,” she said. “He had been sick. He should have been in bed. I think he worked himself to death.” from the articles 'He was the only one who could wear purple:' Orange County woman designed outfits for Prince' http://www.ocregister.com...argas.html

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Reply #231 posted 10/30/16 11:11pm

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Hi Guys hope all's well.

Not sure if you saw this recently on BBC - Prince's vault of unreleased music on sale for $35M

In the article, Susan Rogers states "If he wasn't taking care of conducting business... or if he wasn't dating or seeing someone socially, which would be less often than you might think, for the most part, Prince had an instrument in his hands and he was playing music."

Make of it what you will.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37641654

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Reply #232 posted 10/31/16 9:25am

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Hi Guys hope all's well.



Not sure if you saw this recently on BBC - Prince's vault of unreleased music on sale for $35M



In the article, Susan Rogers states "If he wasn't taking care of conducting business... or if he wasn't dating or seeing someone socially, which would be less often than you might think, for the most part, Prince had an instrument in his hands and he was playing music."



Make of it what you will.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37641654



His Sunnygirl8
Good to see you post again!


Thanks for sharing info
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Reply #233 posted 10/31/16 2:05pm

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Vashtix said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

Hi Guys hope all's well.

Not sure if you saw this recently on BBC - Prince's vault of unreleased music on sale for $35M

In the article, Susan Rogers states "If he wasn't taking care of conducting business... or if he wasn't dating or seeing someone socially, which would be less often than you might think, for the most part, Prince had an instrument in his hands and he was playing music."

Make of it what you will.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37641654

Hi Sunnygirl8 Good to see you post again! Thanks for sharing info

Hi Vashtix Happy Halloween! Sunny smile

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Reply #234 posted 10/31/16 5:46pm

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Goddess4Real said:



fanoftheman said:




Goddess4Real said:




Yuuup sad



He didnt go to Denise's Funeral, He had a Concert in Oakland where Apples, Jill Jones and Others met him and caught up and remembered Denise.




Well according to Vargas Sieloff his clothes designer in the early 80s he was there. She just saw him in February at the “Life Celebration Ceremony” after the death of Prince’s former girlfriend Denise Matthews, known as Vanity. Vargas Sieloff said Prince was mobbed by selfie-seeking fans. He sat in the church balcony and left before the service ended. “He looked very frail,” she said. “He had been sick. He should have been in bed. I think he worked himself to death.” from the articles 'He was the only one who could wear purple:' Orange County woman designed outfits for Prince' http://www.ocregister.com...argas.html



yeahthat I also read that he was at the funeral and sat up in the balcony.
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Reply #235 posted 10/31/16 9:12pm

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I have never seen this pic before biggrin didn't Beyonce and Lady GaGa wear something similar in their Telephone video (2009)?


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Reply #236 posted 11/01/16 2:25pm

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I have never seen this pic before biggrin didn't Beyonce and Lady GaGa wear something similar in their Telephone video (2009)?




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Denise/Vanity was a trailblazer
I see her fingerprint on a lot of the female pop stars including Madonna
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Reply #237 posted 11/01/16 2:51pm

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Goddess4Real said:

Well according to Vargas Sieloff his clothes designer in the early 80s he was there. She just saw him in February at the “Life Celebration Ceremony” after the death of Prince’s former girlfriend Denise Matthews, known as Vanity. Vargas Sieloff said Prince was mobbed by selfie-seeking fans. He sat in the church balcony and left before the service ended. “He looked very frail,” she said. “He had been sick. He should have been in bed. I think he worked himself to death.” from the articles 'He was the only one who could wear purple:' Orange County woman designed outfits for Prince' http://www.ocregister.com...argas.html

yeahthat I also read that he was at the funeral and sat up in the balcony.

http://www.myajc.com/news/entertainment/music/ajc-sepia-apollonia-kotero-passing-denis/nqfrH/

Appolonia's Interview they met up with Prince the day after the Mermorial for Denise in Oakland.. It does not mention he was at the Memorial

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Reply #238 posted 11/01/16 7:37pm

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fanoftheman said:

luvgirl said:

Goddess4Real said: yeahthat I also read that he was at the funeral and sat up in the balcony.

http://www.myajc.com/news/entertainment/music/ajc-sepia-apollonia-kotero-passing-denis/nqfrH/

Appolonia's Interview they met up with Prince the day after the Mermorial for Denise in Oakland.. It does not mention he was at the Memorial

Thanks.......the mystery continues, was he there or not hmmm Great pic, if only Susan was in it, then it would be EPIC thumbs up!

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Reply #239 posted 11/01/16 9:36pm

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fanoftheman said:

luvgirl said:

Goddess4Real said: yeahthat I also read that he was at the funeral and sat up in the balcony.

http://www.myajc.com/news/entertainment/music/ajc-sepia-apollonia-kotero-passing-denis/nqfrH/

Appolonia's Interview they met up with Prince the day after the Mermorial for Denise in Oakland.. It does not mention he was at the Memorial

Hi Everyone, smile

As an FYI, Alex Hahn, the author of the upcoming biography, “Make the House Shake…the life and legacy of Prince” posted on the book’s group Facebook page that Prince did attend Denise Matthews funeral. This information will be sourced in the book’s appendix.

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