wavesofbliss said:

Vashtix said:

In all respect are you looking for a love affair from them?

I think they were friends who had a relationship that on a different dimension than love affair. They were mature adults not 20 somethings looking for the Notebook love. They were living vastly different lives.

It speaks volumes to the respect and care they had for one another because urban legend has it that they had a tumultuous time as lovers and for them to overcame all of what between them back then and sense something in the other to remain as true friends is commendable and rare.

nope! every other person on this board seems to. and TOB presented these things as evidence of their ongoing romantic thing. i have never believed that they had an unreqited love, just exes that got back on good terms after the breakup.

I do believe they were bonded to one another- their lives parallel and their transcending to the next dimension so close confirms that; TOB never said they were romantic he confirmed they communicated as true friends over the decades. I know at first I wanted that romance but Prince clearly married twice and had tons of girlfriends. What is clear is that he and Denise remained steadfast and constant as friends and yeah they both went on close together there is a 75 page thread that goes into detail on that.

Hmm...Mayte writing a book is a violation of Prince's privacy, but sharing personal and private letters he wrote to Denise is not? Oh the irony!

benni said:

Hmm...Mayte writing a book is a violation of Prince's privacy, but sharing personal and private letters he wrote to Denise is not? Oh the irony!

There are enough threads about Mayte

This one is appreciating the wonderful person Denise Matthews was and last I checked there ain't a soul making money or getting publicity from it - or pimping a ghost.

Prince and Vanity (The Supernatural Lovers)

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5 * NEW

These aren't exactly painting Prince in a good light.
I've always wondered why Denise suddenly married this football player. Short dating period, she asked him to marry, pics in mags showing off her wedding? She must have really been hurt after Prince regected her. These stubborn, prideful kids. If only...

Vashtix said:

wavesofbliss said:

nope! every other person on this board seems to. and TOB presented these things as evidence of their ongoing romantic thing. i have never believed that they had an unreqited love, just exes that got back on good terms after the breakup.

I do believe they were bonded to one another- their lives parallel and their transcending to the next dimension so close confirms that; TOB never said they were romantic he confirmed they communicated as true friends over the decades. I know at first I wanted that romance but Prince clearly married twice and had tons of girlfriends. What is clear is that he and Denise remained steadfast and constant as friends and yeah they both went on close together there is a 75 page thread that goes into detail on that.

Exactly... with regard to my intent to offer "potential" evidence of their staying in contact.

I trust I have satisfied my promise from the initial thread with regard posting the two letters,

and also with regard to her sharing her art and poetry.

I will share more when I can, I will answer your question regarding poem/lyrics privately

and when I get a moment I'll send you a copy of another from the same author.

It's interesting how many have attempted to bait me into a dialog with accusations, speculations irrelevant subjects.

Is it always like this here? So Sad…

It will never work. I find it quite childish. You shouldn’t worry them either.

And definitely don’t worry defending my intent, but Thank you anyway.

TOB said:

TOB said:

TOB said:

Exactly... with regard to my intent to offer "potential" evidence of their staying in contact.

I trust I have satisfied my promise from the initial thread with regard posting the two letters,

and also with regard to her sharing her art and poetry.

I will share more when I can, I will answer your question regarding poem/lyrics privately

and when I get a moment I'll send you a copy of another from the same author.

It's interesting how many have attempted to bait me into a dialog with accusations, speculations irrelevant subjects.

Is it always like this here? So Sad…

It will never work. I find it quite childish. You shouldn’t worry them either.

And definitely don’t worry defending my intent, but Thank you anyway.

fair enough. thank you for sharing.

TOB said:

Vashtix said:

I do believe they were bonded to one another- their lives parallel and their transcending to the next dimension so close confirms that; TOB never said they were romantic he confirmed they communicated as true friends over the decades. I know at first I wanted that romance but Prince clearly married twice and had tons of girlfriends. What is clear is that he and Denise remained steadfast and constant as friends and yeah they both went on close together there is a 75 page thread that goes into detail on that.

Exactly... with regard to my intent to offer "potential" evidence of their staying in contact.

I trust I have satisfied my promise from the initial thread with regard posting the two letters,

and also with regard to her sharing her art and poetry.

I will share more when I can, I will answer your question regarding poem/lyrics privately

and when I get a moment I'll send you a copy of another from the same author.

It's interesting how many have attempted to bait me into a dialog with accusations, speculations irrelevant subjects.

Is it always like this here? So Sad…

It will never work. I find it quite childish. You shouldn’t worry them either.

And definitely don’t worry defending my intent, but Thank you anyway.

I agree it is sad and childish- I appreciate you sharing the art and the poems. It shows Denise on a whole different level than Evangelist and Entertainer. I look forward to reading more poems and artwork from her. No worries and I thank you for all you have shared and don't take on the negativity on much love and much respect to you and your family as you continue to deal with loss -

TOB said:

TOB said:

TOB said:

Try to remember I take no sides and prefer to keep my opinions to myself.

Obviously she did not send this copy otherwise I wouldn't have it.

Did she make a mistake, decide to send a different card with different poems,

not like what she had written re-write it and send another?

She makes a note about the phone call with a phone number (which I won't list) in a notebook with other poetry.

Thanks for posting a pic of the art with the cross. I bought a print of that one when she visited my church way back when but couldn't put my hands on it to share.

vuvuzela said:

luvgirl said:

Goddess4Real said:

These photos are amazing....some I haven't seen before.

Can someone tell me when this letter was written to her by Prince?

It seems to corroborate the infomation linked in the Vanity thread regarding P giving her a VCR, etc. during her hospital stay circa 1994. It looks to me like he signed this letter as "the Symbol", which is correct for that period of time.

However, I can see why this is a good question since it also been mentioned that Denise had a transplant later in the 90's that surely would have required a hospital stay.

vuvuzela said:

luvgirl said:

vuvuzela said:

Thanks for posting a pic of the art with the cross. I bought a print of that one when she visited my church way back when but couldn't put my hands on it to share.

Wow! She visted your church? That's awesome! I'm on the hunt for all her television sermons. When I gather them all, I'm just gonna sit back and listen to her preach. [Edited 9/25/16 12:49pm]

Check out trinity broadcast network on line they have some of her old preaching

Vashtix said:

Goddess4Real said:

vuvuzela said:

TOB said:

Try to remember I take no sides and prefer to keep my opinions to myself.

Obviously she did not send this copy otherwise I wouldn't have it.

Did she make a mistake, decide to send a different card with different poems,

not like what she had written re-write it and send another?

She makes a note about the phone call with a phone number (which I won't list) in a notebook with other poetry.

Thanks for posting a pic of the art with the cross. I bought a print of that one when she visited my church way back when but couldn't put my hands on it to share.

Sincerely, that was helpful…

Thank you for sharing that story.

Since some of them are signed I could only assume that she was handing them out

when she was traveling around preaching.

Any idea or suggestions what I should do with all of these?

I took this photo back in July when I first attempting to sort things out

and kept getting sidetrack running into her writings, art and poetry.

There are at least 70 different types and I’m sure I will find more.

Of course I knew my sister wrote poetry and was an artist.

We often shared our poems with each other, and about 7 years ago

she even did an interview with my poetry group and recited some of her poetry.

Yes, I’m a bit of a nerd, my kids (Denise’s nephews in the video)

were in high school orchestra, drumline and marching band. We're just a family of artistic geeks.

And even though over the years I witness her creating some of the

paper/paintings/graphics which she use for these, I really didn’t expect to find all of this.

I could wallpaper a room with one poem.

Denise was seriously obsessive compulsive with it came to her art,

passionate when preaching and over the top dramatic when she recited poetry.

My sister was a beautiful nut… and I just miss her.

I don’t expect everyone to understand the person that I knew. Yes, I'm biased! And I’ll never try to sell her to you.

But from time to time I would like to share with those that do, so send me a note and help me find you.

TOB said:

vuvuzela said:

Thanks for posting a pic of the art with the cross. I bought a print of that one when she visited my church way back when but couldn't put my hands on it to share.

Sincerely, that was helpful…

Thank you for sharing that story.

Since some of them are signed I could only assume that she was handing them out

when she was traveling around preaching.

Any idea or suggestions what I should do with all of these?

I took this photo back in July when I first attempting to sort things out

and kept getting sidetrack running into her writings, art and poetry.

There are at least 70 different types and I’m sure I will find more.

Of course I knew my sister wrote poetry and was an artist.

We often shared our poems with each other, and about 7 years ago

she even did an interview with my poetry group and recited some of her poetry.

Yes, I’m a bit of a nerd, my kids (Denise’s nephews in the video)

were in high school orchestra, drumline and marching band. We're just a family of artistic geeks.

And even though over the years I witness her creating some of the

paper/paintings/graphics which she use for these, I really didn’t expect to find all of this.

I could wallpaper a room with one poem.

Denise was seriously obsessive compulsive with it came to her art,

passionate when preaching and over the top dramatic when she recited poetry.

My sister was a beautiful nut… and I just miss her.

I don’t expect everyone to understand the person that I knew. Yes, I'm biased! And I’ll never try to sell her to you.

But from time to time I would like to share with those that do, so send me a note and help me find you.

Thanks for sharing.

Do you know if Prince sent her letters between 2014 and 2016 ?

TOB said:

vuvuzela said:

Thanks for posting a pic of the art with the cross. I bought a print of that one when she visited my church way back when but couldn't put my hands on it to share.

Sincerely, that was helpful…

Thank you for sharing that story.

Since some of them are signed I could only assume that she was handing them out

when she was traveling around preaching.

Any idea or suggestions what I should do with all of these?

I took this photo back in July when I first attempting to sort things out

and kept getting sidetrack running into her writings, art and poetry.

There are at least 70 different types and I’m sure I will find more.

Of course I knew my sister wrote poetry and was an artist.

We often shared our poems with each other, and about 7 years ago

she even did an interview with my poetry group and recited some of her poetry.

Yes, I’m a bit of a nerd, my kids (Denise’s nephews in the video)

were in high school orchestra, drumline and marching band. We're just a family of artistic geeks.

And even though over the years I witness her creating some of the

paper/paintings/graphics which she use for these, I really didn’t expect to find all of this.

I could wallpaper a room with one poem.

Denise was seriously obsessive compulsive with it came to her art,

passionate when preaching and over the top dramatic when she recited poetry.

My sister was a beautiful nut… and I just miss her.

I don’t expect everyone to understand the person that I knew. Yes, I'm biased! And I’ll never try to sell her to you.

But from time to time I would like to share with those that do, so send me a note and help me find you.

Thank you for sharing. If these are letter size or even 8x10's, you could slide these back-to-back in acid free/lingen free 3-ring sheet protectors and place in a nice binder for safekeeping purposes at least temporarily until you decide what should be done to preserve them further, as well as keep them organized. You could also scan each page and make them into a digital book to be shared with family members if so desired.

SBartist said:

TOB said:

Sincerely, that was helpful…

Thank you for sharing that story.

Since some of them are signed I could only assume that she was handing them out

when she was traveling around preaching.

Any idea or suggestions what I should do with all of these?

I took this photo back in July when I first attempting to sort things out

and kept getting sidetrack running into her writings, art and poetry.

There are at least 70 different types and I’m sure I will find more.

Of course I knew my sister wrote poetry and was an artist.

We often shared our poems with each other, and about 7 years ago

she even did an interview with my poetry group and recited some of her poetry.

Yes, I’m a bit of a nerd, my kids (Denise’s nephews in the video)

were in high school orchestra, drumline and marching band. We're just a family of artistic geeks.

And even though over the years I witness her creating some of the

paper/paintings/graphics which she use for these, I really didn’t expect to find all of this.

I could wallpaper a room with one poem.

Denise was seriously obsessive compulsive with it came to her art,

passionate when preaching and over the top dramatic when she recited poetry.

My sister was a beautiful nut… and I just miss her.

I don’t expect everyone to understand the person that I knew. Yes, I'm biased! And I’ll never try to sell her to you.

But from time to time I would like to share with those that do, so send me a note and help me find you.

Thank you for sharing. If these are letter size or even 8x10's, you could slide these back-to-back in acid free/lingen free 3-ring sheet protectors and place in a nice binder for safekeeping purposes at least temporarily until you decide what should be done to preserve them further, as well as keep them organized. You could also scan each page and make them into a digital book to be shared with family members if so desired.

Great idea

I always wondered when Prince was in love with Susan he jumped to Denise almost immediately. that must have been a strange working relationship. When she became born again she said Prince was the devil and never had anything good to say about him

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

I always wondered when Prince was in love with Susan he jumped to Denise almost immediately. that must have been a strange working relationship. When she became born again she said Prince was the devil and never had anything good to say about him

Not true

She has said many kind and respectful things about Prince - she did not call Prince the devil.

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

luvgirl said:

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

I always wondered when Prince was in love with Susan he jumped to Denise almost immediately. that must have been a strange working relationship. When she became born again she said Prince was the devil and never had anything good to say about him

Say what now???? You have it backwards. Prince and Denise broke up before he was got together with Susanah. can you post the link where she said bad things about him. Apart from acknowledging that he was seeing other women and the money issue surrounding Vanity six and Purple rain, I've yet to hear her really saying anything bad about him. Did she literally call him the devil? Show me the receipts, lol. jk) [Edited 10/1/16 18:49pm]

Susan from Vanity/Appollonia 6, not The Family/fdeluxe Susannah.

Vashtix said:

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

I always wondered when Prince was in love with Susan he jumped to Denise almost immediately. that must have been a strange working relationship. When she became born again she said Prince was the devil and never had anything good to say about him

Not true

She has said many kind and respectful things about Prince - she did not call Prince the devil.

Yes she called him the devil. she also ridiculed him in sermons by calling him "short cat". I wouldn't make this stuff up. she said it from her own mouth