Did he say he didn't want a divorce from Mani?

endiadj said:

anangellooksdown said:

endiadj said:

Did he say he didn't want a divorce from Mani?

His spokesperson responded to her divorce proceedings by saying, "He doesn't want this."

Maybe he didn't for a second time but it seemed they were spending less and less time apart the last few years, so who knows what was going on.

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Yeah, i do remember his spokeperson or lawyer saying that it was Mrs. Nelson who was seeking the divorce and that this wasn't something he wanted..i'm sure he didn't want a 2nd divorce..no one likes to fail at that twice. I also think he liked being with a strong, independent woman...and u know he couldnt walk all over her either, he probably respected that about her.

I dont even like Mani - and as much as I love my Prince, if you dont want to end up divorced maybe there should only be two people involved in the marriage and one of them should be your wife.

Prince should never have married anyone because I cant believe he was ever faithful for more than 5 minutes.

Prince was never husband material largely because he didnt want to be. He would have acted like it if that were the case.

terrig said:

terrig said:

I dont even like Mani - and as much as I love my Prince, if you dont want to end up divorced maybe there should only be two people involved in the marriage and one of them should be your wife.

Prince should never have married anyone because I cant believe he was ever faithful for more than 5 minutes.

Prince was never husband material largely because he didnt want to be. He would have acted like it if that were the case.

I have to agree, i think in the beginning of his relationships he is all smitten and lustful and really wants a faithful and loving partner but then somewhere along the way, either the person does something (or won't do something) or the girl grows up and has an actual opinion or belief of her own and Prince finds it or them undesirable and he loses interest or someone else comes along and catches his fancy. I think most musicians have the kid in a candy store syndrome..there's women EVERYWHERE and they need to sample ALLLLLL the treats!!!!!

Vanity said once of Prince: She only needed one person to love her ''I only wanted one person to love me, Prince needed many...'' it can't work that way, not if the other person is monogomous and wants a faithful lover and partner.

anangellooksdown said:

terrig said:

I dont even like Mani - and as much as I love my Prince, if you dont want to end up divorced maybe there should only be two people involved in the marriage and one of them should be your wife.

Prince should never have married anyone because I cant believe he was ever faithful for more than 5 minutes.

Prince was never husband material largely because he didnt want to be. He would have acted like it if that were the case.

Have you studied his music and interviews closely during that period of time? Even his life? He was absolutely faithful, at least for most of it and I believe all of it.

I don't know what Prince did during his marriages, but we all know that he used to juggle 2 - 3 women at a time when he was not married. He was spending a lot of time with 3 that we know of when he died: Judith Hill, Damaris, and Tamran Hall.

tmo1965 said:

anangellooksdown said:

terrig said:

I dont even like Mani - and as much as I love my Prince, if you dont want to end up divorced maybe there should only be two people involved in the marriage and one of them should be your wife.

Prince should never have married anyone because I cant believe he was ever faithful for more than 5 minutes.

Prince was never husband material largely because he didnt want to be. He would have acted like it if that were the case.

Have you studied his music and interviews closely during that period of time? Even his life? He was absolutely faithful, at least for most of it and I believe all of it.

Believing that doesnt make it true.

GeniusLuv said:

terrig said:

I dont even like Mani - and as much as I love my Prince, if you dont want to end up divorced maybe there should only be two people involved in the marriage and one of them should be your wife.

Prince should never have married anyone because I cant believe he was ever faithful for more than 5 minutes.

Prince was never husband material largely because he didnt want to be. He would have acted like it if that were the case.

I have to agree, i think in the beginning of his relationships he is all smitten and lustful and really wants a faithful and loving partner but then somewhere along the way, either the person does something (or won't do something) or the girl grows up and has an actual opinion or belief of her own and Prince finds it or them undesirable and he loses interest or someone else comes along and catches his fancy. I think most musicians have the kid in a candy store syndrome..there's women EVERYWHERE and they need to sample ALLLLLL the treats!!!!!

Vanity said once of Prince: She only needed one person to love her ''I only wanted one person to love me, Prince needed many...'' it can't work that way, not if the other person is monogomous and wants a faithful lover and partner.

Yes. Faithful for 'some' of the marriage is BS. To be fair, Prince never knew how to be a husband..his daddy taught him to do what he did. He did what he knew.

And fwiw, in the larger scope of men in general....hell I had to have a few convos w my hubby about how to be a husband. You aren;t 'just you' anymore its 'WE' now and WE make decisons together regarding OUR lives. If you want to still hang out and not let someone know when you're coing home, sweetie thats called SINGLE and you can be single...you just can't be single while you're married to me.

Men sometimes need a little guidance on what husbanding is - just look at how he handled everything with Mayte and the situation with Ahmir. Thats not what a husband does. Thats not how Maytes husband should have handled THEIR lives.

Prince was never part of a 'we', by his own design.

terrig said:

GeniusLuv said:

I have to agree, i think in the beginning of his relationships he is all smitten and lustful and really wants a faithful and loving partner but then somewhere along the way, either the person does something (or won't do something) or the girl grows up and has an actual opinion or belief of her own and Prince finds it or them undesirable and he loses interest or someone else comes along and catches his fancy. I think most musicians have the kid in a candy store syndrome..there's women EVERYWHERE and they need to sample ALLLLLL the treats!!!!!

Vanity said once of Prince: She only needed one person to love her ''I only wanted one person to love me, Prince needed many...'' it can't work that way, not if the other person is monogomous and wants a faithful lover and partner.

Yes. Faithful for 'some' of the marriage is BS. To be fair, Prince never knew how to be a husband..his daddy taught him to do what he did. He did what he knew.

And fwiw, in the larger scope of men in general....hell I had to have a few convos w my hubby about how to be a husband. You aren;t 'just you' anymore its 'WE' now and WE make decisons together regarding OUR lives. If you want to still hang out and not let someone know when you're coing home, sweetie thats called SINGLE and you can be single...you just can't be single while you're married to me.

Men sometimes need a little guidance on what husbanding is - just look at how he handled everything with Mayte and the situation with Ahmir. Thats not what a husband does. Thats not how Maytes husband should have handled THEIR lives.

Prince was never part of a 'we', by his own design.

That is very perceptive. I would agree with you. Family is so enriching. If you grew up in a dysfunctional one or absence of one I don't think you really understand how fufilling and rich a loving family can make your life. I think Prince seemed very happy with his second wife and seemed somewhat more "grounded" during that time with her. I'm sure marriying into her family was a different experience if they were a tight knit, loving group. Divorce can be painful because of the new dynamics within extended family too.

I wonder if his painkiller usage goes back all the way to their marriage...I wonder if that was a factor in Mani's decision to leave.

anangellooksdown said:

. I don't know what goes on in people's relationships. I only know I get the strong sense that what I just said above is right.

You're right, you don't know. You don't know how Prince handled it. None of us really do, except the occasional song or whatever.

Y'all act like Prince had never been in a relationship before or had a breakup before his failed marriages. He was deeply in love with Vanity, and Susannah for sure. He connected with Mayte, and his biggest problem with Mani was that she was just a fan. Everyone is to some extent, but he needed to stay out of the fanbase to find a date. Hell, his whole life was breakups, whether professionally, or personally. He was just a human, and his feelings are just like the rest of ours. All the joy, pain, bliss, anger, love and hate we feel all feels the same - it's just the source that's different.

Everyone wants to feel connected, wants a family, whether through marriage, or close friends, or whatever. RuPaul Charles said as a gay person, we get to choose our family, because when our blood has left us out in the cold for being who we are, we get to find the friends and relationships that truly make us better people. It's not revelatory to say Prince was any different in that search.

Manuela Divorces Prince:

Part 1 - http://prince.org/msg/7/196934

Part 2 - http://prince.org/msg/7/197005

Part 3 - http://prince.org/msg/7/197295

wildgoldenhoney said:

He knew that God hates a divorce because when U marry, U make a solemn vow to stay with that person 4ever. So if U have problems U try 2 work it out and just deal with the issues. So I believe his faith is the reason why he didn't want the divorce.

You speak the truth my friend.

Everyone needs to remember Prince became successful on some level by the age of 18 years. I believe celebs/musicians/famouspeeps stop growing to a certain degree when they become successful/famous. So Prince was always the 18 year old dude his entire life. Hence, always being surrounded by women younger than him. He never aged in earth years.

Think back when you were 18 and suddenly you no longer needed to grocery shop. do laundry, clean the house, write a check, go to the store, cook, go to a job everyday, pay bills, call freaking AT&T for a new Internet service, get a new cell phone, without someone doing all the leg work for you. This happened to P when he was 18! No wonder he was "different." He never had a regular life. NEVER! You all know how much you have changed since you were 18 and you had to do things for yourself.

So, to answer OP questions which I have diverted from, Prince pushed Mani away, and her only choice was to file for divorce. His JW beliefs would not allow him to file for divorce, and he was forced to say he didnt want the divorce. Right, or wrong. I dont like Mani but I dont judge. Okay, that was a lie. I do judge. But after drinking whine, I only judge, a little bitty bit. That was a lie too,

Krystalkisses said:

That is very perceptive. I would agree with you. Family is so enriching. If you grew up in a dysfunctional one or absence of one I don't think you really understand how fufilling and rich a loving family can make your life. I think Prince seemed very happy with his second wife and seemed somewhat more "grounded" during that time with her. I'm sure marriying into her family was a different experience if they were a tight knit, loving group. Divorce can be painful because of the new dynamics within extended family too.

I wonder if his painkiller usage goes back all the way to their marriage...I wonder if that was a factor in Mani's decision to leave.

Yep I wonder about the painkiller usage. Could that be why they did'nt have kids? There was some genetic issues on Prince's side. But I could understand why no kids.Who wants to risk babies with a partner who has drugs in their system? Damn thats hurts to say about my P. But if he was having issuses back then, I could see why Mani would balk at having babies with him. I would say she for sure wanted kids cause she has two of them now! Anybody remember her suggestive Facebook post about P that she deleted?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Everyone needs to remember Prince became successful on some level by the age of 18 years. I believe celebs/musicians/famouspeeps stop growing to a certain degree when they become successful/famous. So Prince was always the 18 year old dude his entire life. Hence, always being surrounded by women younger than him. He never aged in earth years.

Think back when you were 18 and suddenly you no longer needed to grocery shop. do laundry, clean the house, write a check, go to the store, cook, go to a job everyday, pay bills, call freaking AT&T for a new Internet service, get a new cell phone, without someone doing all the leg work for you. This happened to P when he was 18! No wonder he was "different." He never had a regular life. NEVER! You all know how much you have changed since you were 18 and you had to do things for yourself.

So, to answer OP questions which I have diverted from, Prince pushed Mani away, and her only choice was to file for divorce. His JW beliefs would not allow him to file for divorce, and he was forced to say he didnt want the divorce. Right, or wrong. I dont like Mani but I dont judge. Okay, that was a lie. I do judge. But after drinking whine, I only judge, a little bitty bit. That was a lie too,

anangellooksdown said:

ashleypaisley said:

Just like Cat said, Prince is very affectionate with women and easily gets them sprung on him without even trying. Some of them even think they are his girlfriend. As beautiful as she is, Tamron is a grown woman with HER OWN. Prince NEEDED to be needed. Young, beautiful, talented girl that he could captain > Beautifully seasoned, while yours is nice, I've got my own. I think he got addicted at this time or Mani found out about the addiction and she gave him an ultimatum. Its something about that FB comment she made about Prince/Charlie Sheen that just doesn't sit right with me.

What was her facebook comment?

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sonshine said:

tmo1965 said:

anangellooksdown said:

terrig said: Have you studied his music and interviews closely during that period of time? Even his life? He was absolutely faithful, at least for most of it and I believe all of it.

I don't know what Prince did during his marriages, but we all know that he used to juggle 2 - 3 women at a time when he was not married. He was spending a lot of time with 3 that we know of when he died: Judith Hill, Damaris, and Tamran Hall.

More like 5 or 6 at a time, at least in the Purple Rain era.

anangellooksdown said:

anangellooksdown said:

tmo1965 said:

I don't know what Prince did during his marriages, but we all know that he used to juggle 2 - 3 women at a time when he was not married. He was spending a lot of time with 3 that we know of when he died: Judith Hill, Damaris, and Tamran Hall.

Damaris was just a friend. A very good friend. I can tell by the way they interacted with each other - and she has said as much openly and directly. Judith Hill was a young artist he believed in and he loved her voice. He was attracted to her musically as an artist and considered her someone he wanted to help in his effort to keep real music out there. Tamran Hall? That one I haven't figured out yet but it seems to me there was some kind of obsession there. Good ol Prince was very very attractive like that. He could make a woman throb with just a sentence or by walking into a room. God that man was somethin else. (sigh)

He and Damaris were clearly very good friends. She posted a picture of the two of them in Paris on her Instagram page maybe 1.5 or 2 years ago. We all know he was very private, so obviously he was okay with it because they were still hanging out together until just before his death, e.g. the Warriors game. I listened to this interview she did with an Australian radio station where she wakes up Prince on-air. It's hilarious!

http://www.drfunkenberry.com/2012/05/29/damaris-lewis-wakes-up-prince-for-rare-live-interview-listen-now/

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I had heard about Judith Hill because she talked about being on the plane with him. This thread is the first I have heard of him being friends with Tamron Hall.

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Anyone else wonder if he wrote the song "Black Muse" for Damaris?

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