Purpleone4Eva said:

*Looks at Kandace* Yep, I'd flirt with her too and I'm a straight woman. What's the big deal? Sounds like he flirted (which we saw evidence of in 2014), she turned him down, and they were friends. Maybe it went beyond flirting, maybe not. *shrug*

Now I can't really understand her turning him down, but I guess not everyone wanted to climb Prince like I did.

This is how Kandace responded when asked is Prince was "romantically interested" in her: "I’m not gonna lie, he tried. [laughs] I didn’t quite let him. I think he respected me for that. We were able to keep a friendship." So, exactly what does "I didn't quite let him" mean. Does that mean she kinda let him? I mean, just a tad bit? Interesting...

FlyOnTheWall said:

Purpleone4Eva said:

*Looks at Kandace* Yep, I'd flirt with her too and I'm a straight woman. What's the big deal? Sounds like he flirted (which we saw evidence of in 2014), she turned him down, and they were friends. Maybe it went beyond flirting, maybe not. *shrug*

Now I can't really understand her turning him down, but I guess not everyone wanted to climb Prince like I did.

This is how Kandace responded when asked is Prince was "romantically interested" in her: "I’m not gonna lie, he tried. [laughs] I didn’t quite let him. I think he respected me for that. We were able to keep a friendship." So, exactly what does "I didn't quite let him" mean. Does that mean she kinda let him? I mean, just a tad bit? Interesting...

They kissed?

laurarichardson said:

Kara said:

Agree. Ten years? I don't know about that.

-- I bet he tried but come on he was inviting those young girls up to PP to try and make something happen. He was getting older so maybe his track wasn't what it use to be.

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:

strawberrylova123 said:

laurarichardson said:

--- That is what I think she meant. I mean he was really taking out on dates when she came up to visit and it appears tone the same with Judith.

from the facebook posts from Judith and MOST definitely Andy, there was most likely something romantic going on. Tamoron hall is still questionable to me though.

Oh I definitely believe him and Andy were an item judging from the "sharpie hearts," duets, changed lyrics to Anotherlove and her post following his passing about how they shared "a great love" and how he taught her "how to love without inhibitions, but also taught [her] about heartbreak." It seems that from 2013-2016, presumably after Andy left the camp/ they broke up, that he started seeing a lot of other 20-somethings (Kat Graham, Kandace, Chelsea Rodgers etc). It's still sad to me that he passed away alone and presumably single/not in a committed relationship.

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

They kissed?

--- That is what I think she meant. I mean he was really taking out on dates when she came up to visit and it appears tone the same with Judith.

I'd guess that they probably did kiss, perhaps more.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Good for him. If he could still pull in the young chickas and that is what he wanted to do then honestly, more power to him. He deserved to be happy. I don't see anything wrong with him "hitting" on these women if they were available...everyone wants love (or sex whatever). He was human like all of us.

Well she was damn lucky to get Prince's attention - be it for her music or her looks - because I am listening to the album and it is nothing special. I am sure she would not have gotten the call from Paisley Park if she looked like SHeryl Underwood.

laurarichardson said:

Krystalkisses said:

Good for him. If he could still pull in the young chickas and that is what he wanted to do then honestly, more power to him. He deserved to be happy. I don't see anything wrong with him "hitting" on these women if they were available...everyone wants love (or sex whatever). He was human like all of us.

Exactly all humans need affection and if he was in some sort of pain so what. Some people on this board act like he was 12 years old and not a grown ass man. I hope he was enjoying himself in his last days.

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

-// I never said he was bedding them all I said I believe he tried. Alan Leeds said Prince showed the public the side he wanted the public to see. He knew how to play media and he knew he was older and certain behaviors would not be a good look at his age. What he was doing away from the public view we can only assume because of the number of young ladies he had up to Paisly Park over the last two years as more than a few people have stated their were many. Dr.Funkenberry said he even hit on Misty Copeland. I am sure he got put in the friend box by more than a few.

People can believe whatever they want; we'll never know. I'm just going by things Prince has said. There's no reason for him to try and create an image of him as some sort of monk. There's no PR or brand reason for him to be out there saying he's celibate. Honestly pushing the whole faith/JW thing could have turned more people off than anything else. Maybe he was the biggest flirt in the world. Maybe some did turn into more than just friendship. All I'm arguing is I don't think he brought these women to PP just because he wanted to screw 'em or get involved romantically. I think it's unfortunate that he couldn't have relationships with women without some people assuming he was screwing them.

I agree, to some degree. I think he had mellowed with his advanced years, but he obviously still loved the company of beautiful, talented women. I get the impression that he enjoyed the chase and courtship. From what I've read, he liked doing "normal" things, like dating. That's not to say that his goal in meeting and mentoring, or even dating, these young creatives was sexual conquest. Still, I think a part of him longed for another meaningful relationship, perhaps even another marriage. Just take another listen to his song, "This Could Be Us." As fate would have it, sadly, that just wasn't in the cards for him.

laurarichardson said:

Krystalkisses said:

Good for him. If he could still pull in the young chickas and that is what he wanted to do then honestly, more power to him. He deserved to be happy. I don't see anything wrong with him "hitting" on these women if they were available...everyone wants love (or sex whatever). He was human like all of us.

Exactly all humans need affection and if he was in some sort of pain so what. Some people on this board act like he was 12 years old and not a grown ass man. I hope he was enjoying himself in his last days.

Yes, and furthermore, so what if Prince's interest in these women was mainly sexual? If you remember the Uptown Dames thread, Robin and the girls were disscussing Prince's then newfound interest in Carmen Electra and the girls observed that, some men court using dinners, flowers, gifts and Prince used record deals.

So what is the big deal if he thought the girls were attractive and wanted to help them? Where was he supposed to meet women anyway? The grocery store? The park? He was an isolated celeb and lived in his own world to a large extent, how was he suppose to find someone? These women shared a passion for music, and they had that in common. Most men enjoy giving when they like a woman....Prince saw a way to introduce himself to women he liked by offering his help...I too hope he had company in his last years.

Krystalkisses said:

laurarichardson said:

Exactly all humans need affection and if he was in some sort of pain so what. Some people on this board act like he was 12 years old and not a grown ass man. I hope he was enjoying himself in his last days.

Yes, and furthermore, so what if Prince's interest in these women was mainly sexual? If you remember the Uptown Dames thread, Robin and the girls were disscussing Prince's then newfound interest in Carmen Electra and the girls observed that, some men court using dinners, flowers, gifts and Prince used record deals.

So what is the big deal if he thought the girls were attractive and wanted to help them? Where was he supposed to meet women anyway? The grocery store? The park? He was an isolated celeb and lived in his own world to a large extent, how was he suppose to find someone? These women shared a passion for music, and they had that in common. Most men enjoy giving when they like a woman....Prince saw a way to introduce himself to women he liked by offering his help...I too hope he had company in his last years.

I could not agree more.

Kara said:

He talked about it in 2008, too...

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2008-09-25-prince-21-nights_N.htm "I'm single, celibate and sexy," he says with a laugh. "I feel free." [...] On a love song, his voice takes on yearning as he pines for the feel of a lover's lips and the move of her hips. "That's what happens with years of celibacy," says Prince, survivor of two broken marriages. "It all goes into the music." He pauses. "This time, it has to be the right person."

Thanks so much Kara! I looked and looked for this in an earlier thread where this subject came up and could not find it...but I knew it came from 2008. Glad you found it and shared it here.

rogifan said

laurarichardson said: All I'm arguing is I don't think he brought these women to PP just because he wanted to screw 'em or get involved romantically. I think it's unfortunate that he couldn't have relationships with women without some people assuming he was screwing them.

i appreciate you sentiments but remember he spent 30+ yrs making sure,by way of his enthusiastic womanizing, that people would make those very asssumptions. it's also true that people want/need affection and love which is why most people find a way to work it out with a longterm relationship by his age. to me that is what so sad. FWIW, i also felt that his dad's BS about fam/children haunted him no matter how hard he tried to shake it. i think it created a very deep ambivilence in him towards family life. like he would some how betray his father if he settled into a happy a domestic life.

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JMO

Prince was a player. He followed the same pattern at the end of his career that he was in at the beginning: Hire his women for work, lavish them with attention (daily flowers, daily phone calls, etc), give them some task for which they are under-qualified (lead singer, actress, etc), solicit sexual favors indirectly, introduce them to competing women, dump them by ignoring them for months on in, wait to see what they say about you online and in the press). He really seemed to get a kick out of the ensuing drama.

funksterr said:

Prince was a player. He followed the same pattern at the end of his career that he was in at the beginning: Hire his women for work, lavish them with attention (daily flowers, daily phone calls, etc), give them some task for which they are under-qualified (lead singer, actress, etc), solicit sexual favors indirectly, introduce them to competing women, dump them by ignoring them for months on in, wait to see what they say about you online and in the press). He really seemed to get a kick out of the ensuing drama.

i agree with your observation, but who were the latter day chicks other than bria?

funksterr said:

Prince was a player. He followed the same pattern at the end of his career that he was in at the beginning: Hire his women for work, lavish them with attention (daily flowers, daily phone calls, etc), give them some task for which they are under-qualified (lead singer, actress, etc), solicit sexual favors indirectly, introduce them to competing women, dump them by ignoring them for months on in, wait to see what they say about you online and in the press). He really seemed to get a kick out of the ensuing drama.

I absoultley agree. That was his MO but, I don't think he should have been lonely in the last years of his life. Truely any girl probably should have been gaurded around him knowing his history, although that definatly can be hard to do with hormones flooding your brain, but maybe that is why this girl didn't let him go there with her....she was just trying to protect her heart I would assume.

wavesofbliss said:

funksterr said:

Prince was a player. He followed the same pattern at the end of his career that he was in at the beginning: Hire his women for work, lavish them with attention (daily flowers, daily phone calls, etc), give them some task for which they are under-qualified (lead singer, actress, etc), solicit sexual favors indirectly, introduce them to competing women, dump them by ignoring them for months on in, wait to see what they say about you online and in the press). He really seemed to get a kick out of the ensuing drama.

i agree with your observation, but who were the latter day chicks other than bria?

He never really confirmed any relationship after Mani so it's all speculation. Andy highly likely, most likely also Judith, Chelsea Rodgers, Lala Escarzega (dancer from the Screwdriver video) and Tamron Hall.

peri1025 said:

wavesofbliss said:

i agree with your observation, but who were the latter day chicks other than bria?

He never really confirmed any relationship after Mani so it's all speculation. Andy highly likely, most likely also Judith, Chelsea Rodgers, Lala Escarzega (dancer from the Screwdriver video) and Tamron Hall.

hmmmm. the problem is that anyone can say or claim anything now that's he's gone because no one can/will call them out.and since his pattern was SO obvious.... he dated every woman he was around but he didn't fuck all of them. i noticed the women who DID have a thing with him have all commented, confidently, at this point.(all the lasies from the 80s and 90s) bria is the only exception. that's why i give side eye to these dancing fifi types like lala and chelsea. even andy was vague. but if i were a betting woman i bet that she was his last hook-up.

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i hope you guys on the board take a page. this is a very sad ending to a life of playing the pimp role.

wavesofbliss said:

peri1025 said:

GoldenParachute said:

wavesofbliss said:

hmmmm. the problem is that anyone can say or claim anything now that's he's gone because no one can/will call them out.and since his pattern was SO obvious.... he dated every woman he was around but he didn't fuck all of them. i noticed the women who DID have a thing with him have all commented, confidently, at this point.(all the lasies from the 80s and 90s) bria is the only exception. that's why i give side eye to these dancing fifi types like lala and chelsea. even andy was vague. but if i were a betting woman i bet that she was his last hook-up.

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i hope you guys on the board take a page. this is a very sad ending to a life of playing the pimp role.

The term 'dancing fifi's'. -That sounds incredibly disrespectful. I saw the same attacks against Judith a while back and can't believe the audacity of some of you to attack women whom Prince was close to even after he's gone. You females sure do know how to display envy. All of these women are physically beautiful, talented (minus Chelsea, I don't think she had an artistic talent), and intelligent. It's safe to say Prince only kept good hearted people around him and he wouldn't have had anyone around for a long time if they weren't. You women need to fall back and stop sounding so damn jealous. And talking about Prince in such a reduced manner. Shame

what's all this!! if they aren't a musician or singer they're 'dancing fifis' to me. have been from moment one in all of my posts, going back years. mayte was a 'dancing fifi' that got a ring- r u gonna cry now? i'm nothing like jealous and call things as i see them. i'm not offended by you disagreeing with me but don't be daft. those 'dancing fifis' are not deserving of any great respect but i'm sure that,like cat they think the yrs they spent shaking their asses with/for prince changed the world. for the record -it didn't change mine. they were eye candy nothing more.

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i had nothing to say about judith except that she sounded like a deluded young woman. that's the whole point of a player like prince - get all of them thinking i love them, i'm gonna marry them, they're the only one. if every girl around says the same thing: 1) it's not true and 2) whatever went down meant more to the girl than to prince. "sure baby, you so special to me i have 3 more just like you on stand-by." they probably play things back in their minds some other way for their own mental and emotional health. when he was alive they were all on fb/twitter hinting at all kinds of stuff - doesn't mean it happened. doesn't prove closeness or relevence in his life beyond the project they were around for. how do you not know that?

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regardless, you, Golden Parachute, sound like a mom protecting wounded cubs, why r u so invested?

wavesofbliss said:

my bad. i forgot- don't feed trolls. or mama bears. do u live in iowa,too?

++ be blessed

wavesofbliss said:

wavesofbliss said: