luvsexy4all said:

derrick31 said:

BillieBalloon said:

derrick31 said:

If KJ didn't attain any fenatayl or any other drug Prince may have had in his system at the time of his death without a prescription, then he's cool. Also, of course fans want to know what happened to Prince. There's nothing at all wrong with that. It comes with the territory when you are a celebrity. Prince was one of the most recognized musicians in the world with a cult-like following that spanned an almost 40 year period. It's unrealistic to think that those who loved him so much wouldn't want to know what happened to him.

I agree. The only facts we have are: 1. Prince has died 2. He died of an opioid overdose Now we are expected to just accept this and move on, cold hard facts that are just difficult to digest. I hope more info comes out so we can make some kind of sense of his death and then move on. Even Sheila E said there has been no closure. What are we supposed to think? Are we just supposed to forget about him? I don't think his fans are meant to be questioning anything, they want us to just be quiet and go away. Although I don't agree in demonising kirk... [Edited 7/12/16 7:46am][/b]

Exactly because anything else about his private life/death is no one else's business, only his family's. It's not mine, yours or Sheila's. We know what killed him (opioid od) and even that was none of our business. I wish laws would be changed to not make public someone's cause of death unless it was of a criminal nature. Things like that should be kept private. It shouldn't even be left to family to decide.

endiadj said:

the privacy of his death is not the issue

endiadj said:

rogifan said:

derrick31 said:

rogifan said:

I'm with you. Unless something criminal happened cause of death should be private for everyone, celebrity or not. If family wants to release more information that should be their choice. Thankfully Minnesota law allows this information to remain private.

This is ridiculous and very naive. If people want that kind of privacy, then don't be a public figure. Prince was ridiculously famous. People, fans and non-fans, are going to want to know the circumstances surrounding his death. No law will prevent that from happening. It all will come out eventually. That's the reality of the situation. That's fame.

not with HIM....even confidentiality agreements live on....

luvsexy4all said:

derrick31 said:

rogifan said: This is ridiculous and very naive. If people want that kind of privacy, then don't be a public figure. Prince was ridiculously famous. People, fans and non-fans, are going to want to know the circumstances surrounding his death. No law will prevent that from happening. It all will come out eventually. That's the reality of the situation. That's fame.

not with HIM....even confidentiality agreements live on....

Did that confidentiality apply to Sheila E., Anna Fantastic, his chef, his hairdresser, Mayte, his driver, his bodyguard, etc.....? It's going to happen. There will be books and articles after some time passes. No one is going to pursue people forever for talking about Prince.

Well Well Kirky J must be doing better. Going to the Essence festival and painting his bike

bondno9 said:

Well Well Kirky J must be doing better. Going to the Essence festival and painting his bike

Has he even commented other than that statement through his lawyer? Anything on twitter, etc.?

endiadj said:

I do not know how many of you folks have a professional account on LinkedIn but I do know that Kirk, Mayte, Mani, Dez Dickerson and many of P's old bandmates and people he worked with have their professional profiles up on the site.

bondno9 said:

endiadj said:

Has he even commented other than that statement through his lawyer? Anything on twitter, etc.?

Nope! Nothing ... I wonder though who invited him to Essence?!?

Surprised. Not even a "miss you bro" type post from a guy who was his best man at his wedding, friend of 30+ years, constant companion, etc.?

endiadj said:

BillieBalloon said:

Ottensen said:

BillieBalloon said:

I agree. The only facts we have are: 1. Prince has died 2. He died of an opioid overdose Now we are expected to just accept this and move on, cold hard facts that are just difficult to digest. I hope more info comes out so we can make some kind of sense of his death and then move on. Even Sheila E said there has been no closure. What are we supposed to think? Are we just supposed to forget about him? I don't think his fans are meant to be questioning anything, they want us to just be quiet and go away. Although I don't agree in demonising kirk... [Edited 7/12/16 7:46am]

From the context of her interviews isn't Sheila talking about closure in terms of letting it sink in that he's gone? I think she knows plenty well what has transpired given that she has active relationships with his inner circle of family and employees, but she ain't gonna be telling a bunch of strangers. As for us being expected to move on..um...yeah. You don't have a choice. All the dirt digging in the world is not going to bring him back. So eventually, you'll have to move on, as choosing not to affects no one at this point other than yourself.

Quoted for emphasis.....

endiadj said:

Surprised. Not even a "miss you bro" type post from a guy who was his best man at his wedding, friend of 30+ years, constant companion, etc.?

I don’t believe that any of Prince’s nearest and dearest should feel remotely obliged to share their feelings/pain with fans via social media. Surely that is entirely their prerogative, and I would hope that they do not feel any expectation in that respect from us as fans.

In any case, I seem to recall that Kirk has already stated that he is heartbroken, and has requested that we respect his privacy.

Imho I think that a man who has been such a dependable right hand man and best friend to Prince over so many years fully merits that respect from me. Kirk always struck me as a good guy (albeit I don’t know him personally of course) & a reliable friend for Prince, and as such deserves my best wishes and prayers.

If one considers how broken many of us are feeling (and that strong love/emotional attachment has only been formed via Prince’s music and its consequent one-way, parasocial relationship, whereby we fans reverentially admire/adore from afar), I would expect those who lived with, loved and hugged him on a daily basis to be completely devastated by his sudden passing.

Prince was unique and an extra, extra-special blessing to many of us, and I guess that most of the diehard, long-term fans here probably weren’t even fortunate enough to have the opportunity to shake his hand and say thank-you.

If I ponder how as merely a fan I am struggling to come to terms with his leaving us, it must be so incredibly hard for his closest friends like Kirk, who, after all, has lost his dearly cherished best friend, and not just his most beloved musical hero.

In poor Kirk’s case, he also has had to deal with the shock and trauma of unexpectedly finding his closest friend’s body, which must have been an unimaginably awful moment to experience and an exceptionally painful memory to endure. Moreover, I imagine he probably had to withstand some hopefully sensitive questioning from the authorities, which is not an enviable position to be in, especially when grieving a loved one.

It also seems to me that quite a lot of middle aged men like myself don't really like to live their lives vicariously online (and perhaps it wouldn't be too surprising if Kirk was not all that avid a participant in social media?)...says me, as I post online on a public forum. Hmmm...

GrayDorian said:

endiadj said:

I don’t believe that any of Prince’s nearest and dearest should feel remotely obliged to share their feelings/pain with fans via social media. Surely that is entirely their prerogative, and I would hope that they do not feel any expectation in that respect from us as fans.

In any case, I seem to recall that Kirk has already stated that he is heartbroken, and has requested that we respect his privacy.

Imho I think that a man who has been such a dependable right hand man and best friend to Prince over so many years fully merits that respect from me. Kirk always struck me as a good guy (albeit I don’t know him personally of course) & a reliable friend for Prince, and as such deserves my best wishes and prayers.

If one considers how broken many of us are feeling (and that strong love/emotional attachment has only been formed via Prince’s music and its consequent one-way, parasocial relationship, whereby we fans reverentially admire/adore from afar), I would expect those who lived with, loved and hugged him on a daily basis to be completely devastated by his sudden passing.

Prince was unique and an extra, extra-special blessing to many of us, and I guess that most of the diehard, long-term fans here probably weren’t even fortunate enough to have the opportunity to shake his hand and say thank-you.

If I ponder how as merely a fan I am struggling to come to terms with his leaving us, it must be so incredibly hard for his closest friends like Kirk, who, after all, has lost his dearly cherished best friend, and not just his most beloved musical hero.

In poor Kirk’s case, he also has had to deal with the shock and trauma of unexpectedly finding his closest friend’s body, which must have been an unimaginably awful moment to experience and an exceptionally painful memory to endure. Moreover, I imagine he probably had to withstand some hopefully sensitive questioning from the authorities, which is not an enviable position to be in, especially when grieving a loved one.

It also seems to me that quite a lot of middle aged men like myself don't really like to live their lives vicariously online (and perhaps it wouldn't be too surprising if Kirk was not all that avid a participant in social media?)...says me, as I post online on a public forum. Hmmm...

He doesn't owe us anything. Just surprised nothing other than his lawyer(?) speak because so many others who were close to him for the beginning have spoken out or posted something, but not him who seemed to be his bff for 30+ years. Oh well...

GrayDorian said:

endiadj said:

I don’t believe that any of Prince’s nearest and dearest should feel remotely obliged to share their feelings/pain with fans via social media. Surely that is entirely their prerogative, and I would hope that they do not feel any expectation in that respect from us as fans.

In any case, I seem to recall that Kirk has already stated that he is heartbroken, and has requested that we respect his privacy.

Imho I think that a man who has been such a dependable right hand man and best friend to Prince over so many years fully merits that respect from me. Kirk always struck me as a good guy (albeit I don’t know him personally of course) & a reliable friend for Prince, and as such deserves my best wishes and prayers.

If one considers how broken many of us are feeling (and that strong love/emotional attachment has only been formed via Prince’s music and its consequent one-way, parasocial relationship, whereby we fans reverentially admire/adore from afar), I would expect those who lived with, loved and hugged him on a daily basis to be completely devastated by his sudden passing.

Prince was unique and an extra, extra-special blessing to many of us, and I guess that most of the diehard, long-term fans here probably weren’t even fortunate enough to have the opportunity to shake his hand and say thank-you.

If I ponder how as merely a fan I am struggling to come to terms with his leaving us, it must be so incredibly hard for his closest friends like Kirk, who, after all, has lost his dearly cherished best friend, and not just his most beloved musical hero.

In poor Kirk’s case, he also has had to deal with the shock and trauma of unexpectedly finding his closest friend’s body, which must have been an unimaginably awful moment to experience and an exceptionally painful memory to endure. Moreover, I imagine he probably had to withstand some hopefully sensitive questioning from the authorities, which is not an enviable position to be in, especially when grieving a loved one.

It also seems to me that quite a lot of middle aged men like myself don't really like to live their lives vicariously online (and perhaps it wouldn't be too surprising if Kirk was not all that avid a participant in social media?)...says me, as I post online on a public forum. Hmmm...

I totally agree with you- I cannot imagine how the people close to him feel- friends, family, people who worked for him, cleaned his home , cooked his meals. I feel like I feel and was just a fan. My heart is heavy - I do not know how they are getting through.

endiadj said:

bondno9 said:

endiadj said: Nope! Nothing ... I wonder though who invited him to Essence?!?

Surprised. Not even a "miss you bro" type post from a guy who was his best man at his wedding, friend of 30+ years, constant companion, etc.?

Well, he posted about painting his Harley purple "to honor [his] bro"