It's hyperbole to say he turned his back on them. It wasn't some huge falling out. Sure there was friction and arguments and disagreements, but not everyone is 12 years old and stomps off in a tantrum because they have a verbal kerfuffle with someone.

Prince worked on a W&L song just a few years after the end of The Revolution, and they eventually worked on a few songs for him. I think it's always a misnomer to assume that when people leave the band or whatever, that there is instant hatred and resentment. There isn't.

I used to think that. One thing I've learned, since the internet age and connecting with band members, etc., is that al of these folks mostly stayed friends. They became friends and a family that they never expected. Frankly, I see Brownmark having a bigger riff with Prince in 1986 than W&L did. His low pay, being put behind those three dingalings onstage, etc. He didn't even thank Prince on his first record (W&L did, so did Bobby, and Fink). He was upset for a while, and rightly so, but things eventually came back around.

The Brits, Tavis, 2000 Celebration, "In This Bed.." - there's a lot of Revolution interaction with Prince, and at that point, it's all good. I think Prince regretted how he dealt with W&L sometimes, because he was still human. He wasn't as "I don't look back" as he might have confessed in public. He never cut ties with anyone.

Footnote: He did get upset at the 'fancy lesbian' comment though, whcih I thought was hysterical.

craft6 said:

I know we've covered WHAT happened - the ladies didn't like the direction the band was going in, tried to quit, Princ convinced them to stay only for him to fire them at the end of the tour - BUT I don't understand HOW he did it. I don't understand how he was able to (correct me if I'm wrong) turn his back on them. From what I've read, they were something of a family: P stayed with W&L in LA sometimes (even on a pull out), he nursed Lisa toward recovery when she had her wisdom teeth removed, P was close to other members of the Melvoin and Coleman family,dated Susannah, was working closely with all of them..only to cut all ties? Sometimes he would talk about his faith encouraging him to keep a peaceful spirit, sort out relationships, etc. so why didn't that extend to W&L?

.

None of us will truly know Prince's thought processes, of course, but I find it less difficult to understand this behaviour - mainly because I recognise it in myself.

.

I think Prince's experiences as a child and teenager have a lot to do with his behaviours as an adult. His parents' split at a young age will have gone some way to forming his view of adult relationships, and to a link between disagreement and separation. Prince's perception that his mother had seemingly 'chosen' his new stepfather over himself would have been a huge emtional blow to him. His subsequent difficulties with his father would have only served to compound these.

.

I get the sense of a independent, self-sufficient, emotionally closed-off young man who, whilst seeking out the care and love of others to fill this emotional need would also be very wary of those relationships and desperate to protect himself from further heartache.

.

As you say, W&L (& Susannah) were so close to Prince as to be a makeshift family. Therefore, when he found out that they wanted to 'leave him' this would have been a tremendous blow. He appears to have decided (either consciously or subconsiously) that the only way to protect himself from further pain would be to take control of the situation and to cut them from his life.

.

I does seem like a drastic action and to those with better experiences in relationships such actions can be hard to understand.

.

.

He did reach out to W&L on a number of occasions since I'm sure he missed them and knew it was the right thing to do. However, I suspect that each time it was just too painful to allow them back in and to gove them the power and possiblity of hurting him again, so ended up pushing them away.

.

Great replies posted.

And I agree with all of it.

Prince was talking to an advising W & Lisa on their first 2 albums, the video for Waterfalls etc

He had them on stage during a Lovesexy show in for a few songs with the band.

Even after he fired them he had Wendy with him on guitar for a few Bangles:Manic Monday performances.

If you read interviews around the 1997-1998 years Prince talked about W & L, Susannah BrownMark and other revolution members in interviews in very musically romantic ways. I strongly believe that if Prince baby has lived and the marriage survived that Prince would have fully united with the Revolution again. It was during this time that he refered to the band(s) in that 1982-1986 period as a Community which is family. And the song he wrote dedicated to Lisa Wendy & Susannah -In This Bed I Scream. A very emotional expression that I rarely ever think he did in a song towards someone. He also dedicated a song to Jonathon Melvoin who died around that time.

1997 Musicians interview:I remember when Miles Davis came to my house. As he was passing by my piano, he stopped and put his hands down on the keys and played these eight chords, one after the other. It was so beautiful; he sounded like Bill Evans or Lisa [Coleman], who also had this way of playing chords that were so perfect.

Lisa was never an explosive keyboard player, but she was a master of color in her harmonies; I could sing off of what she had with straight soul.

BASS PLAYER
November, 1999

His Highness Gets Down!
By Karl Coryat

Starting with 1982’s 1999, Prince began crediting a band, the Revolution, on his recordings. Though he still played many of the parts, over the next few albums the Revolution played an increasingly important role. "I wanted community more than anything else. These days if I have Rhonda [S., formerly The Artist’s primary live bassist] play on something, she’ll bring in her Jaco influence, which is something I wouldn’t add if I played it myself. I did listen to Jaco -- I love his Joni Mitchell stuff -- but I never wanted to play like him." The Artist still raves about the original Revolution bassist, Brown Mark (who took over for Andre Simone), calling him the tightest bass player next to Graham himself.

He had the male members of the Revolution doing a few songs during the PP Celebrations, but this was after he tried to get the band back via Lisa & Wendy or the Roadhouse Garden album (that he refused to pay them for) I think this attitude was the direct result of that cold Prince coming back as the result of the loss of his child and the ending of his marriage (refering again to geetee71's post)

They have always stayed in communication.

Lisa:

Prince had been in touch with Wendy a little during that time and he asked us both if we would come play at the Brits with him. We hung out a couple of times and had dinner. We jammed... just the three of us. It was a BLAST! Then Sheila came and a few of us played around with Te Amo... we were just in his living room with a guitar and piano... congas? And it was really nice. So, yes, we worked out a little arrangement together.

By the Musicology in2 the 3121 years he had Wendy & Lisa doing shows with him.

Susannah he had on stage with them once or twice for A Love Bizarre.
Lisa couldn't make it but Wendy was with his band in Minneapolis for the triple shows:Macy's Target & First Avenue. Calling Wendy his best friend and she put her head on his shoulder.

They did some work on his Planet Earth album. And then something happened after that with Prince that it all kind shut off again. I think 'outside forces' influenced him...

But I know someone who is friends with W & L and has said Prince regularly visited them at their home-studio.

[Edited 6/11/16 22:20pm]

There is actually something poetic about his relationship with Wendy. He had a certain swagger and bravado on stage that no one ever matched. Off stage, Wendy had her own bravado 24/7. She was always what he was in the spotlight. We know Prince was funny and had a sense of humor. Her pulling his armpit hairs in the studio, even after he said to stop, certainly has to land on the side of affection, considering there was no blow up when it happened. (The story is in DMSR.)

Sometimes I wonder if he wasn't a little afraid of her. The one thing I loved about Purple Rain was Wendy telling him off, and being the mouth piece. Lisa talked to Wendy, mostly. But Wendy stood in front and faced The Kid down. That was obviously an element in real life, too. The only other person to really give The Kid a reality check was Bobby Z, and that lends to him being the older brother in the band, as he's been described. It's a bit like when you pick on someone, just to see if they can take it, or give it back, instead of cower. I do that, and if someone gives it back - they have my respect more than those who tuck tail and run.

With Wendy, if anyone was ever a reflection of Prince in certain ways, it was Wendy Melvoin. Not 100%, but a good deal of the time.

OldFriends4Sale said:

I don't think it was this huge, dramatic break up. They continued to work together on and off over the years. But we all know Prince could be cynical in his professional life. If he no longer felt he had any use for you, he wouldn't hesitate to let you go.

"Bobby Z, and that lends him to being the older brother in the band"...I agree. P has said in earlier interviews that Bobby Z was his best friend. They were pretty tight back then (from what I've read).

Two obvious problems were that they are Lesbians with Jewish heritage... Prince couldn't reconcile that publicly with his new private beliefs. Though he did slip and tell that shit to a reporter who printed the story only to be forced to claim that she lied when she reported what he said (y'all forgot about that one didn't 'cha?).

The stupid masters fight, which was spun to Prince as though it's because he was Black that he was having problems, which also led to Prince's study of The Fall of The Original Man, Prince's Mom and Dad died, Mayte lost two babies... it's like how Palpatine manipulates Anakin into becoming Darth Vader at the end of the Revenge Of The Sith. That was Prince's last 20 years or so, and, imo, the root of why he never really got back on the same page with The Rev and W&L (though for sure not ALL of the problem StickyFingerzDez and Vanity's fuckboi BrownMark, iirc).

Deleted: Off topic - langebleu - moderator (If you have an issue, please use the Report to Moderator option - thanks)

Craft6, I don't think you are alone. From what W&L have said they don't know too. They have theory as to why. In the past Wendy has said that the 3 of them became a 3 headed monster. But that they really didn't know the reason.

They talked about the night they had been fired. They went over to the house he was renting in LA for dinner. He said to them that he was going in another direction. He wanted to have women in the band with crotch-less panties bra's with exposed nipples. That they had already given so much, but that he couldn't ask them to do that. Both of them call that night "a chicken dinner wrapped in a pink slip".

But also, the house he was renting was the house a few years later the Menendez brothers murdered their parents in. That it was in the room the parents were killed, was the room W&L had been fired in. When the trial was on TV W&L were glued to the TV because they knew the house very well.

But my own theory as a possible reason as to why they were fired. W&L (but mostly Wendy was given this task) To publicly speak for Prince. They were not comfortable with this. Asking what were they to say, and being told. Just tell the truth. Thinking to themselves..... Oh boy! In the 1986 Rolling Stone article they said "We don't want to go off and start our own thing. This is our own thing. What the three of us have together in the studio nobody can beat." That Prince is not their boss. I think he might have taken exception to what they said. Six months after this article was published they were fired. An article that (from W&L's perspective) they had this close bonded relationship. Was it because Prince didn't feel the love they did and got weirded out? was it because W&L let the cat out of the bag that the music was not all 100% him? One of the things I wanted Prince to write about in the book he was writing was why W&L were fired. But I didn't think he would be honest about it. But now that Prince is gone, we will never really know. But also W&L are included in that we. I don't they will really ever know why.

Also listen to the song "Invisable" by W&L. Wendy did say the song is about Prince.

LEATHRSAIL said:

Craft6, I don't think you are alone. From what W&L have said they don't know too. They have theory as to why. In the past Wendy has said that the 3 of them became a 3 headed monster. But that they really didn't know the reason.

They talked about the night they had been fired. They went over to the house he was renting in LA for dinner. He said to them that he was going in another direction. He wanted to have women in the band with crotch-less panties bra's with exposed nipples. That they had already given so much, but that he couldn't ask them to do that. Both of them call that night "a chicken dinner wrapped in a pink slip".

But also, the house he was renting was the house a few years later the Menendez brothers murdered their parents in. That it was in the room the parents were killed, was the room W&L had been fired in. When the trial was on TV W&L were glued to the TV because they knew the house very well.

But my own theory as a possible reason as to why they were fired. W&L (but mostly Wendy was given this task) To publicly speak for Prince. They were not comfortable with this. Asking what were they to say, and being told. Just tell the truth. Thinking to themselves..... Oh boy! In the 1986 Rolling Stone article they said "We don't want to go off and start our own thing. This is our own thing. What the three of us have together in the studio nobody can beat." That Prince is not their boss. I think he might have taken exception to what they said. Six months after this article was published they were fired. An article that (from W&L's perspective) they had this close bonded relationship. Was it because Prince didn't feel the love they did and got weirded out? was it because W&L let the cat out of the bag that the music was not all 100% him? One of the things I wanted Prince to write about in the book he was writing was why W&L were fired. But I didn't think he would be honest about it. But now that Prince is gone, we will never really know. But also W&L are included in that we. I don't they will really ever know why.

Also listen to the song "Invisable" by W&L. Wendy did say the song is about Prince.

Prince himself pushed the idea that W&L were collaboraters (Probably more so than they were in reality)

Maybe he didn't feel as close to them as they felt to him. Remember we have only heard their side of the story.

paulludvig said:

LEATHRSAIL said:

Craft6, I don't think you are alone. From what W&L have said they don't know too. They have theory as to why. In the past Wendy has said that the 3 of them became a 3 headed monster. But that they really didn't know the reason.

They talked about the night they had been fired. They went over to the house he was renting in LA for dinner. He said to them that he was going in another direction. He wanted to have women in the band with crotch-less panties bra's with exposed nipples. That they had already given so much, but that he couldn't ask them to do that. Both of them call that night "a chicken dinner wrapped in a pink slip".

But also, the house he was renting was the house a few years later the Menendez brothers murdered their parents in. That it was in the room the parents were killed, was the room W&L had been fired in. When the trial was on TV W&L were glued to the TV because they knew the house very well.

But my own theory as a possible reason as to why they were fired. W&L (but mostly Wendy was given this task) To publicly speak for Prince. They were not comfortable with this. Asking what were they to say, and being told. Just tell the truth. Thinking to themselves..... Oh boy! In the 1986 Rolling Stone article they said "We don't want to go off and start our own thing. This is our own thing. What the three of us have together in the studio nobody can beat." That Prince is not their boss. I think he might have taken exception to what they said. Six months after this article was published they were fired. An article that (from W&L's perspective) they had this close bonded relationship. Was it because Prince didn't feel the love they did and got weirded out? was it because W&L let the cat out of the bag that the music was not all 100% him? One of the things I wanted Prince to write about in the book he was writing was why W&L were fired. But I didn't think he would be honest about it. But now that Prince is gone, we will never really know. But also W&L are included in that we. I don't they will really ever know why.

Also listen to the song "Invisable" by W&L. Wendy did say the song is about Prince.

Prince himself pushed the idea that W&L were collaboraters (Probably more so than they were in reality)

Maybe he didn't feel as close to them as they felt to him. Remember we have only heard their side of the story.

I think we can only go by some things he said in interview and in a song

Here is some of Prince's words

[Edited 6/14/16 9:58am]

From a conceptual basis, Wendy and Lisa were the two musicians in any of his bands who were able to tap into him on some subliminal level - they really did have a musical relationship that was closer than with anyone that he worked with. -Eric Leeds

paulludvig said:

Remember we have only heard their side of the story.

Which is 100 percent more valid than anything we think and speculate about.

"He wanted to have women in the band with crotch-less panties bra's with exposed nipples"

i don't find it hard to believe that they were fired because of some of thing stated and restated over the years; chiefly that prince wanted to change direction AND that he wasn't comfortable being that close to them anymore.

+++changing direction: he never released 1/3 of all the music they worked on with him and the stuff he did release was significantly different to the way it was when they were in the band.

+++he was breaking up w/their sister! how fucking ackward can that be!

+++ couple of other thoughts are having a great creative connection is great for as long as you want or need it, but it's not all that matters. and finally, who cares they had tried to quit a few months before the parade tour,it shouldn't have been a big deal or a big surprise. i've always agreed with alan leeds assessment that w&l had overestimated (if not over played)their role as hired band members and it was inevitable that there were so hard feelings,but the revolution was purpose built for that phase of his career. alan said that they acted like a wife who had been cheated on.it was much ado about nothing and that they were/are being disingenuous when they say it was a surprise and they could never figured out why they were fired.

+++P asked the ones he wanted to stay,to stay. mark was fed up with $2,200 p/week and being ignored creatively. matt stayed through lovesexy. bobby,w&l had formed a coalition unto themselves. i think P just said "take it elsewhere." so to speak.

+++PS

wendy and susannah are 1/2 jewsih. lisa is 1/2 mexican. and by their own account,while prince was very respectful of their relationship and even asked lisa's feelings about having her gf in the band. it was only after the JW conversion that P went all stupid and homophobic.

[Edited 6/14/16 16:30pm]

wavesofbliss said:

i don't find it hard to believe that they were fired because of some of thing stated and restated over the years; chiefly that prince wanted to change direction AND that he wasn't comfortable being that close to them anymore.

+++changing direction: he never released 1/3 of all the music they worked on with him and the stuff he did release was significantly different to the way it was when they were in the band.

+++he was breaking up w/their sister! how fucking ackward can that be!

+++ couple of other thoughts are having a great creative connection is great for as long as you want or need it, but it's not all that matters. and finally, who cares they had tried to quit a few months before the parade tour,it shouldn't have been a big deal or a big surprise. i've always agreed with alan leeds assessment that w&l had overestimated (if not over played)their role as hired band members and it was inevitable that there were so hard feelings,but the revolution was purpose built for that phase of his career. alan said that they acted like a wife who had been cheated on.it was much ado about nothing and that they were/are being disingenuous when they say it was a surprise and they could never figured out why they were fired.

+++P asked the ones he wanted to stay,to stay. mark was fed up with $2,200 p/week and being ignored creatively. matt stayed through lovesexy. bobby,w&l had formed a coalition unto themselves. i think P just said "take it elsewhere." so to speak.

+++PS

wendy and susannah are 1/2 jewsih. lisa is 1/2 mexican. and by their own account,while prince was very respectful of their relationship and even asked lisa's feelings about having her gf in the band. it was only after the JW conversion that P went all stupid and homophobic.

[Edited 6/14/16 16:30pm]

Can U post the link/quote where Alan said that stuff? I've never read anything remotely close to him saying that stuff.

Also Susannah was still with Prince months after he disbanded the Revolution. That's why she is on recordings that came after like Play In the Sunshine & Rock Hard In A Funky Place.
She finally left him.

OldFriends4Sale said:

wavesofbliss said:

i don't find it hard to believe that they were fired because of some of thing stated and restated over the years; chiefly that prince wanted to change direction AND that he wasn't comfortable being that close to them anymore.

+++changing direction: he never released 1/3 of all the music they worked on with him and the stuff he did release was significantly different to the way it was when they were in the band.

+++he was breaking up w/their sister! how fucking ackward can that be!

+++ couple of other thoughts are having a great creative connection is great for as long as you want or need it, but it's not all that matters. and finally, who cares they had tried to quit a few months before the parade tour,it shouldn't have been a big deal or a big surprise. i've always agreed with alan leeds assessment that w&l had overestimated (if not over played)their role as hired band members and it was inevitable that there were so hard feelings,but the revolution was purpose built for that phase of his career. alan said that they acted like a wife who had been cheated on.it was much ado about nothing and that they were/are being disingenuous when they say it was a surprise and they could never figured out why they were fired.

Can U post the link/quote where Alan said that stuff? I've never read anything remotely close to him saying that stuff.

++++

"the revolution had an enormously inflated sense of their importance to the project...They pretty much felt they were the second coming of the Beatles as a band. The whole subplot was Prince basically convincing everybody that they were the self-contained band- it's the Commodores not Prince and a backing band anymore. And amazingly, they bought it so when that ended and the security blanket was gone, they really felt dissed... It was like a wife who had been cheated on. That's how they behaved. It was mind-blowing. And I was like, What planet are you on?" pg 246 Let's Go Crazy, Alan Light.

Also Susannah was still with Prince months after he disbanded the Revolution. That's why she is on recordings that came after like Play In the Sunshine & Rock Hard In A Funky Place.
She finally left him.

wavesofbliss said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Can U post the link/quote where Alan said that stuff? I've never read anything remotely close to him saying that stuff.

++++

"the revolution had an enormously inflated sense of their importance to the project...They pretty much felt they were the second coming of the Beatles as a band. The whole subplot was Prince basically convincing everybody that they were the self-contained band- it's the Commodores not Prince and a backing band anymore. And amazingly, they bought it so when that ended and the security blanket was gone, they really felt dissed... It was like a wife who had been cheated on. That's how they behaved. It was mind-blowing. And I was like, What planet are you on?" pg 246 Let's Go Crazy, Alan Light.

Also Susannah was still with Prince months after he disbanded the Revolution. That's why she is on recordings that came after like Play In the Sunshine & Rock Hard In A Funky Place.
She finally left him.

Thanks

did Alan Leeds or Alan Light say that? I don't have that book

[Edited 6/14/16 19:30pm]

"The songs we did with Wendy & Lisa, included some of the most wonderful stuff we ever did." -Eric Leeds

OldFriends4Sale said:

wavesofbliss said:

Thanks

did Alan Leeds or Alan Light say that? I don't have that book

[Edited 6/14/16 19:30pm]

alan leeds quote from the alan light book. sorry to be confusing.

craft6 said:

I know we've covered WHAT happened - the ladies didn't like the direction the band was going in, tried to quit, Princ convinced them to stay only for him to fire them at the end of the tour - BUT I don't understand HOW he did it. I don't understand how he was able to (correct me if I'm wrong) turn his back on them. From what I've read, they were something of a family: P stayed with W&L in LA sometimes (even on a pull out), he nursed Lisa toward recovery when she had her wisdom teeth removed, P was close to other members of the Melvoin and Coleman family,dated Susannah, was working closely with all of them..only to cut all ties? Sometimes he would talk about his faith encouraging him to keep a peaceful spirit, sort out relationships, etc. so why didn't that extend to W&L?

By disbanding the Revolution, Prince sought to purge these emotions, and after Wendy and Lisa departed, friends and colleagues who remained were told not even to mention their names.

pg 108 Possessed: the Rise & Fall of Prince

wavesofbliss said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Thanks

did Alan Leeds or Alan Light say that? I don't have that book

[Edited 6/14/16 19:30pm]

alan leeds quote from the alan light book. sorry to be confusing.

I think Alan was exaggerating a bit lol as far as the Revolution
Bobby Z talked about his dismissal in very humble terms, praising Sheila E

Brown Mark wasn't fired, but left, even with Prince trying to get him to stay.

The emotional connection even sung about by Prince in 1997 and all the other stuff was clear of his relationship with them. So for Lisa & Wendy to be hurt is very understandable.

Eric Bobby & Matt have all talked about their suprise at him letting Lisa & Wendy go though.

Susan Rogers left the next year.
Eric Atlanta Sheila Fink & Miko

Alan might not have realized that this disbanding would quickly lead to Prince letting him go too.

It was all emotional.

OldFriends4Sale said:

wavesofbliss said:

alan leeds quote from the alan light book. sorry to be confusing.

Alan might not have realized that this disbanding would quickly lead to Prince letting him go too.

++iirc, alan was promoted to running PP and then stepped down in 92. he has said that there was never weird stuff between him and P until he(al) started working for WB. he was exhausted. he was also sick around that time,too, i think.

++similar to how levi left the NPG and was put in charge of PP and he too disappeared after a couple of years. levi was "running" pp until about 94-95. people described his leaving as him going into witness protection. i think levi ran off with therese stouil(sp) and gilbert ran off with karen krattinger(sheila's assistant) around the same time. i guess that was after levi and tony sued P for back pay. also around the time that duane started having trouble with P.

wavesofbliss said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Alan might not have realized that this disbanding would quickly lead to Prince letting him go too.

++iirc, alan was promoted to running PP and then stepped down in 92. he has said that there was never weird stuff between him and P until he(al) started working for WB. he was exhausted. he was also sick around that time,too, i think.

++similar to how levi left the NPG and was put in charge of PP and he too disappeared after a couple of years. levi was "running" pp until about 94-95. people described his leaving as him going into witness protection. i think levi ran off with therese stouil(sp) and gilbert ran off with karen krattinger(sheila's assistant) around the same time. i guess that was after levi and tony sued P for back pay. also around the time that duane started having trouble with P.

When someone was delegated to 'running' a part of Paisley Park that is a sign of dismissal.
It's sad how things went after 1986

[Edited 6/15/16 12:44pm]

wavesofbliss said:

i don't find it hard to believe that they were fired because of some of thing stated and restated over the years; chiefly that prince wanted to change direction AND that he wasn't comfortable being that close to them anymore.

+++changing direction: he never released 1/3 of all the music they worked on with him and the stuff he did release was significantly different to the way it was when they were in the band.

+++he was breaking up w/their sister! how fucking ackward can that be!

+++ couple of other thoughts are having a great creative connection is great for as long as you want or need it, but it's not all that matters. and finally, who cares they had tried to quit a few months before the parade tour,it shouldn't have been a big deal or a big surprise. i've always agreed with alan leeds assessment that w&l had overestimated (if not over played)their role as hired band members and it was inevitable that there were so hard feelings,but the revolution was purpose built for that phase of his career. alan said that they acted like a wife who had been cheated on.it was much ado about nothing and that they were/are being disingenuous when they say it was a surprise and they could never figured out why they were fired.

+++P asked the ones he wanted to stay,to stay. mark was fed up with $2,200 p/week and being ignored creatively. matt stayed through lovesexy. bobby,w&l had formed a coalition unto themselves. i think P just said "take it elsewhere." so to speak.

+++PS

wendy and susannah are 1/2 jewsih. lisa is 1/2 mexican. and by their own account,while prince was very respectful of their relationship and even asked lisa's feelings about having her gf in the band. it was only after the JW conversion that P went all stupid and homophobic.

[Edited 6/14/16 16:30pm]

This makes a lot of sense.

OldFriends4Sale said:

wavesofbliss said:

When someone was delegated to 'running' a part of Paisley Park that is a sing of dismissal.
It's sad how things went after 1986

++ so kirk j was about to be dismissed after all those years? as i understand it, kj was running pp when prince died. sorry, but that makes no sense. and alan was at pp for 5-6 years after the revolution were sacked. 2 years after matt left. seems to me that they move to admin when the don't want to deal with the touring side of it.

wavesofbliss said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

When someone was delegated to 'running' a part of Paisley Park that is a sing of dismissal.
It's sad how things went after 1986

++ so kirk j was about to be dismissed after all those years? as i understand it, kj was running pp when prince died. sorry, but that makes no sense. and alan was at pp for 5-6 years after the revolution were sacked. 2 years after matt left. seems to me that they move to admin when the don't want to deal with the touring side of it.

I'm not talking about in latter years.
more of a joke than anything
Paisley Park wasn't a money maker, people got shifted around 2 paisley park their role diminished, then they are gone...
I'll post something Alan said about that when I get home

.

Can U post your posts outside of the box? is something happening during the reply?

[Edited 6/15/16 12:50pm]

[Edited 6/15/16 12:51pm]