why

That's what I would like to know as well as Sheila E, but yet its difficult to find The Time's material.

DO/DID THEY GET ROYALTIES..MAYBE THE GIRLS NEEDED THE MONEY, NOT SURE?

I remember a Jellybean Johnson interview where he said that the female proteges got speical treatment compared to them. But how would u explain why The Family which featured Susannah his fiancée wasn't allowed to use the name, and prior to his passing it was also difficult to find their songs on YT?

Goddess4Real said:

I remember a Jellybean Johnson interview where he said that the female proteges got speical treatment compared to them. But how would u explain why The Family which featured Susannah his fiancée wasn't allowed to use the name, and prior to his passing it was also difficult to find their songs on YT?

Cuz u don't leave Princey

GeniusLuv said:

Goddess4Real said:

I remember a Jellybean Johnson interview where he said that the female proteges got speical treatment compared to them. But how would u explain why The Family which featured Susannah his fiancée wasn't allowed to use the name, and prior to his passing it was also difficult to find their songs on YT?

Cuz u don't leave Princey

Well Vanity left him and he still used material that she recorded from Vibrator

Goddess4Real said:

GeniusLuv said:

Cuz u don't leave Princey

Well Vanity left him and he still used material that she recorded from Vibrator

Ohhhhh Goddess come on now girl you and i (especially) know hisgirl Denise was special

GeniusLuv said:

Goddess4Real said:

Well Vanity left him and he still used material that she recorded from Vibrator

Ohhhhh Goddess come on now girl you and i (especially) know hisgirl Denise was special

Oh yes the protype, the OG

The question should be, why did he do a Hot Wit U...the NASTY GIRL remix...why did he need to do that? Hmmm

GeniusLuv said:

The question should be, why did he do a Hot Wit U...the NASTY GIRL remix...why did he need to do that? Hmmm

Enough said

Woah!

When was that? Who are those guys? Whats goin on there?

GeniusLuv said:

Woah!

When was that? Who are those guys? Whats goin on there?

Prince B'day Party in NY hosted by Spike Lee https://twitter.com/serpa...th_replies

Nice!

Prince did not celebrate birthdays being a JW BUT Spike and Sway make the birthday celebration look like a good time

I love that Prince did a NASTY GIRL REMIX

Wonder if Denise knew?? Did she get royalties of any kind?? Maybe it was done for a reason??

Just sayin'

Goddess4Real said:

I remember a Jellybean Johnson interview where he said that the female proteges got speical treatment compared to them. But how would u explain why The Family which featured Susannah his fiancée wasn't allowed to use the name, and prior to his passing it was also difficult to find their songs on YT?

Prince had moved on from that broad and married twice - why would he compromise business to let them use his Family name? He didnt owe her or anyone in the band anything.

Goddess4Real said:

I remember a Jellybean Johnson interview where he said that the female proteges got speical treatment compared to them. But how would u explain why The Family which featured Susannah his fiancée wasn't allowed to use the name, and prior to his passing it was also difficult to find their songs on YT?

OldFriends4Sale said:

Goddess4Real said:

I remember a Jellybean Johnson interview where he said that the female proteges got speical treatment compared to them. But how would u explain why The Family which featured Susannah his fiancée wasn't allowed to use the name, and prior to his passing it was also difficult to find their songs on YT?

BBP: So he did them a favor more or less, right?

Johnson: He did them a favor, more or less. But still it’s just—it’s just—all this shit is just so childish when you look back on it 35 years later. You’re like, “what the fuck was he doing?” Because you know what, man? He could have had all of us. We could have all been working for him; we could have all been making hits for him and everything and he would have made even more money. But his ego won’t let that happen. His ego cannot take that. He had all of us: every guy in the Time, with the exception of Jerome—and Jerome had his own record deal—every guy in the Time had a top 10 hit. Every one! Monte, Jesse, Jimmy and Terry sold over 100 million records. Morris, I—all of us—had Top Ten, Top Five records. Prince could have had all of us. Didn’t want to pay us; didn’t want to do it.

BBP: So you think it was a money issue, or was it an ego issue, or both?

Johnson: I think it’s ego and money. I think it was ego and money. Because he didn’t want us to become bigger than him. When I first toured, we first went on a major tour, we made $150 a week, dude.

BBP: (laughs) Really?

Johnson: Prince made millions. Those millions he took to make Purple Rain, he made that first tour, when he got the bonuses and shit, our bonus was $150. After three fucking months on the road! That’s all we made was $150 a week! That’s all we made! Morris made more: he paid Morris more because Morris was his alter-ego, as you said. The rest of us? That’s all we got! That includes Terry and Jimmy too.

BBP: But you know what’s interesting though, that movie would not have worked if it had not been for that tension, you know?

Johnson: Yeah. You’re right. He used that, like I said, he used that to his advantage. Because the automatic tension was there, because it had been there. He used it to his advantage. And I give him credit for that. I’m still famous today for Purple Rain. I still get a little bullshit check every two or three months for Purple Rain…but Purple Rain’s going to always be part of his life too, even though he tries to poo-poo and play all of this new shit like “Screwdriver” and all that. People come to concerts, they want to hear “Purple Rain” and that old shit. This recent shit, they don’t be wanting to hear his ass with that. But it takes him time to figure shit out. But then he’ll sit down at a piano and brag about how many hits he’s got, and kick his man offstage and just play the shit by himself. That’s the kind of shit he does.

BBP: So why do you think the women get treated better?

Johnson: This goes all the way back to Vanity 6, Apollonia 6, and how we used to get treated because of them. We played for Vanity 6 and we were in their band, we didn’t get but an extra $100 for doing that shit…and when we came to major cities like New York, L.A., he booted our asses off there. He kept them, made us play for them and wouldn’t let The Time play. Do you know what it’s like to have a major star—Quincy Jones, Sting—coming to see us, and we don’t play? You know what? You should buy the Original 7ven. There’s a DVD in the album Original 7ven. You should buy that, man and watch that.

Well damn!
You think he's a little ticked?

He never answered that last question.

Oh yeah. I'm curious how did all that work once Denise renounced "Vanity", did she still get any royalty checks? Did she send them back?

OldFriends4Sale said:

Goddess4Real said:

I remember a Jellybean Johnson interview where he said that the female proteges got speical treatment compared to them. But how would u explain why The Family which featured Susannah his fiancée wasn't allowed to use the name, and prior to his passing it was also difficult to find their songs on YT?

BBP: So he did them a favor more or less, right?

Johnson: He did them a favor, more or less. But still it’s just—it’s just—all this shit is just so childish when you look back on it 35 years later. You’re like, “what the fuck was he doing?” Because you know what, man? He could have had all of us. We could have all been working for him; we could have all been making hits for him and everything and he would have made even more money. But his ego won’t let that happen. His ego cannot take that. He had all of us: every guy in the Time, with the exception of Jerome—and Jerome had his own record deal—every guy in the Time had a top 10 hit. Every one! Monte, Jesse, Jimmy and Terry sold over 100 million records. Morris, I—all of us—had Top Ten, Top Five records. Prince could have had all of us. Didn’t want to pay us; didn’t want to do it.

BBP: So you think it was a money issue, or was it an ego issue, or both?

Johnson: I think it’s ego and money. I think it was ego and money. Because he didn’t want us to become bigger than him. When I first toured, we first went on a major tour, we made $150 a week, dude.

BBP: (laughs) Really?

Johnson: Prince made millions. Those millions he took to make Purple Rain, he made that first tour, when he got the bonuses and shit, our bonus was $150. After three fucking months on the road! That’s all we made was $150 a week! That’s all we made! Morris made more: he paid Morris more because Morris was his alter-ego, as you said. The rest of us? That’s all we got! That includes Terry and Jimmy too.

BBP: But you know what’s interesting though, that movie would not have worked if it had not been for that tension, you know?

Johnson: Yeah. You’re right. He used that, like I said, he used that to his advantage. Because the automatic tension was there, because it had been there. He used it to his advantage. And I give him credit for that. I’m still famous today for Purple Rain. I still get a little bullshit check every two or three months for Purple Rain…but Purple Rain’s going to always be part of his life too, even though he tries to poo-poo and play all of this new shit like “Screwdriver” and all that. People come to concerts, they want to hear “Purple Rain” and that old shit. This recent shit, they don’t be wanting to hear his ass with that. But it takes him time to figure shit out. But then he’ll sit down at a piano and brag about how many hits he’s got, and kick his man offstage and just play the shit by himself. That’s the kind of shit he does.

BBP: So why do you think the women get treated better?

Johnson: This goes all the way back to Vanity 6, Apollonia 6, and how we used to get treated because of them. We played for Vanity 6 and we were in their band, we didn’t get but an extra $100 for doing that shit…and when we came to major cities like New York, L.A., he booted our asses off there. He kept them, made us play for them and wouldn’t let The Time play. Do you know what it’s like to have a major star—Quincy Jones, Sting—coming to see us, and we don’t play? You know what? You should buy the Original 7ven. There’s a DVD in the album Original 7ven. You should buy that, man and watch that.

Yuuuuuup that's the interview

morningsong said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

BBP: So he did them a favor more or less, right?

Johnson: He did them a favor, more or less. But still it’s just—it’s just—all this shit is just so childish when you look back on it 35 years later. You’re like, “what the fuck was he doing?” Because you know what, man? He could have had all of us. We could have all been working for him; we could have all been making hits for him and everything and he would have made even more money. But his ego won’t let that happen. His ego cannot take that. He had all of us: every guy in the Time, with the exception of Jerome—and Jerome had his own record deal—every guy in the Time had a top 10 hit. Every one! Monte, Jesse, Jimmy and Terry sold over 100 million records. Morris, I—all of us—had Top Ten, Top Five records. Prince could have had all of us. Didn’t want to pay us; didn’t want to do it.

BBP: So you think it was a money issue, or was it an ego issue, or both?

Johnson: I think it’s ego and money. I think it was ego and money. Because he didn’t want us to become bigger than him. When I first toured, we first went on a major tour, we made $150 a week, dude.

BBP: (laughs) Really?

Johnson: Prince made millions. Those millions he took to make Purple Rain, he made that first tour, when he got the bonuses and shit, our bonus was $150. After three fucking months on the road! That’s all we made was $150 a week! That’s all we made! Morris made more: he paid Morris more because Morris was his alter-ego, as you said. The rest of us? That’s all we got! That includes Terry and Jimmy too.

BBP: But you know what’s interesting though, that movie would not have worked if it had not been for that tension, you know?

Johnson: Yeah. You’re right. He used that, like I said, he used that to his advantage. Because the automatic tension was there, because it had been there. He used it to his advantage. And I give him credit for that. I’m still famous today for Purple Rain. I still get a little bullshit check every two or three months for Purple Rain…but Purple Rain’s going to always be part of his life too, even though he tries to poo-poo and play all of this new shit like “Screwdriver” and all that. People come to concerts, they want to hear “Purple Rain” and that old shit. This recent shit, they don’t be wanting to hear his ass with that. But it takes him time to figure shit out. But then he’ll sit down at a piano and brag about how many hits he’s got, and kick his man offstage and just play the shit by himself. That’s the kind of shit he does.

BBP: So why do you think the women get treated better?

Johnson: This goes all the way back to Vanity 6, Apollonia 6, and how we used to get treated because of them. We played for Vanity 6 and we were in their band, we didn’t get but an extra $100 for doing that shit…and when we came to major cities like New York, L.A., he booted our asses off there. He kept them, made us play for them and wouldn’t let The Time play. Do you know what it’s like to have a major star—Quincy Jones, Sting—coming to see us, and we don’t play? You know what? You should buy the Original 7ven. There’s a DVD in the album Original 7ven. You should buy that, man and watch that.

Well damn!
You think he's a little ticked?

He never answered that last question.

Now that Prince is gone, I wonder if his views has changed eg. will he jump on the "I love Prince" bandwagon? It will be interesting

Goddess4Real said:

morningsong said:

Well damn!
You think he's a little ticked?

He never answered that last question.

Now that Prince is gone, I wonder if his views has changed eg. will he jump on the "I love Prince" bandwagon? It will be interesting

Well The Time is available on Tidal so the royal checks should be getting better so I'm sure so will the views.

morningsong said:

Goddess4Real said:

Now that Prince is gone, I wonder if his views has changed eg. will he jump on the "I love Prince" bandwagon? It will be interesting

Well The Time is available on Tidal so the royal checks should be getting better so I'm sure so will the views.

Also I read Vantiy 6 music is on Tidal as well

Goddess4Real said:

morningsong said:

Well The Time is available on Tidal so the royal checks should be getting better so I'm sure so will the views.

Also I read Vantiy 6 music is on Tidal as well

Oh I have to check it out. I don't have that stuff anymore. I gave it all away when I converted. Of course I relapsed and stayed but it was too late to get my stuff back.

GeniusLuv said:

I love that Prince did a NASTY GIRL REMIX

Wonder if Denise knew?? Did she get royalties of any kind?? Maybe it was done for a reason??

Just sayin'

I just saw the video today! I wonder too, if she knew. It was interesting hearing Prince sing "Nasty Girl". Who was the girl wrapping on there? It sounded like Eve.

purplegirl00 said:

GeniusLuv said:

I love that Prince did a NASTY GIRL REMIX

Wonder if Denise knew?? Did she get royalties of any kind?? Maybe it was done for a reason??

Just sayin'

I just saw the video today! I wonder too, if she knew. It was interesting hearing Prince sing "Nasty Girl". Who was the girl wrapping on there? It sounded like Eve.

Its ok but the original is the BEST! and Vanity 6's live version from the Homecoming show in Mn is totally awesome

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purplegirl00 said:

He didn't, it was taken down all the time. I suspect that The Time, as a band in print and available to purchase digitally, were taken down via automated processes but the Vanity 6 stuff weren't part of that and needed a manual submission of copyright.

Goddess4Real said:

purplegirl00 said:

Goddess4Real said:

Its ok but the original is the BEST! and Vanity 6's live version from the Homecoming show in Mn is totally awesome

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I like her singing it best too, but him singing it, is still interesting. I want hear that Homecoming show! [Edited 6/10/16 12:36pm]

Its on YT (type Vanity 6 live) in all its funky glory they were awesome