keenly said:

wonder505 said:

keenly said: And what was stopping them from doing that when he was alive?

Prince!

In what way? Can you provide some evidence that they were prevented from touring on their own?

Oh yeah wait. we had two other bands who tried on their own and that didnt last long.

[Edited 5/28/16 11:29am]

keenly said:

anangellooksdown said:

How do I feel about it? Better than watching his ex-wife and her now husband have their hands in everything Prince.

OMG yes, this a hundred times. Mani & wannabewhoaint need to have several seats in obscurity where they belong.

wonder505 said:

keenly said:

Prince!

In what way? Can you provide some evidence that they were prevented from touring on their own?

I don't know that it's even about "prevented from touring on their own."

The way Bobby tells it, it seems like he had to grant permission for them to utilize the moniker and perform the songs for the First Avenue performance. In that way, yes, Prince could have kept them from performing, legally speaking.

And the whole "that didn't last long" comment... It seems like you are relishing in the failure of those groups (whoever they are?). I hope that doesn't extend to a potential tribute tour that many of us are interested in seeing in order to celebrate Prince's life. Otherwise that could just read as hate.

keenly said:

wonder505 said:

keenly said: And what was stopping them from doing that when he was alive?

Prince!

They could have formed their own band, record their own material, perform, etc. but they chose not to. The only thing that Prince intervened in any of these people's careers was in regards to anything related to him. Whether people think that was right or wrong it did not stop anybody from starting from scratch just like he did in the beginning. They were certainly young enough to start over....that's what I would have done.

OldFriends4Sale said:

SoulAlive said:

You bring up a good point.This is why I was so adamant about Prince doing a Revolution reunion.Time is not promised to anyone.These things must be done while everyone is still alive to be a part of it.I felt the same way about remasters.We're all getting old.Give us the remasters while we're still able to enjoy 'em (lol).I just think that Prince spent so much time trying to erase the past and distance himself from too many of the people in his past.That was unfortunate.

Right, I think of the Time(O7) when they wanted to open 4 Prince on the Welcome 2 Australia tour. And that would have been prime time excitement 2 another level. And there was some playfull jibing with the Family & Prince and I was just thinking about time and how we will regret when we get the news someone is gone.

With all the time that past, You can tell Vanity's passing really affected him. And when he got the news Bobby Z had a heart attack. When that happened Prince starting putting up a lot of Parade era images.

Word.

I can't read minds and pretend to know that "there is no way Prince would have done x"/"Prince would have done x" like some do.

But if there may be indicators that he had been loosening up about the whole "I don't look at the past" type thing going on. Those indicators you mentioned above coupled with insights such as Jimmy Jam stating Prince was considering opening up the vault to Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis to revisit those historical recordings.. those bits of information open up a picture of Prince as actually revisiting and embracing the past and not just distancing himself from it.

GuyBros said:

wonder505 said:

In what way? Can you provide some evidence that they were prevented from touring on their own?

I don't know that it's even about "prevented from touring on their own."

The way Bobby tells it, it seems like he had to grant permission for them to utilize the moniker and perform the songs for the First Avenue performance. In that way, yes, Prince could have kept them from performing, legally speaking.

And the whole "that didn't last long" comment... It seems like you are relishing in the failure of those groups (whoever they are?). I hope that doesn't extend to a potential tribute tour that many of us are interested in seeing in order to celebrate Prince's life. Otherwise that could just read as hate.

What Bobby stated just tells me that he needed permission to use the name but to my understanding no one can stop a live performance which obviously the Revolution members never seemed to entertain unless for the Bobby Z fundraiser. And I'm not hating, just stating a fact. and for the umpteenth time, I never said that no one can do a tribute.

[Edited 5/28/16 13:47pm]

GuyBros said:

wonder505 said:

In what way? Can you provide some evidence that they were prevented from touring on their own?

I don't know that it's even about "prevented from touring on their own."

The way Bobby tells it, it seems like he had to grant permission for them to utilize the moniker and perform the songs for the First Avenue performance. In that way, yes, Prince could have kept them from performing, legally speaking.

And the whole "that didn't last long" comment... It seems like you are relishing in the failure of those groups (whoever they are?). I hope that doesn't extend to a potential tribute tour that many of us are interested in seeing in order to celebrate Prince's life. Otherwise that could just read as hate.

What hate? If they all had the potential then the only thing missing was the initiative. Prince never had any legal right whatsoever to keep them from performing whether they were performing their own material or covering songs they made with him. They were afraid of him for no reason.

Their mistake was putting all of their eggs in his basket when they should have done their own thing as soon as they saw what was going down. There was never a reason that they couldn't have continued without Prince except that they were divided amongst themselves.

Furthermore I don't get why y'all keep accusing people of saying that a tribute should never happen when that is not what is being said?

babynoz said:

GuyBros said:

I don't know that it's even about "prevented from touring on their own."

The way Bobby tells it, it seems like he had to grant permission for them to utilize the moniker and perform the songs for the First Avenue performance. In that way, yes, Prince could have kept them from performing, legally speaking.

And the whole "that didn't last long" comment... It seems like you are relishing in the failure of those groups (whoever they are?). I hope that doesn't extend to a potential tribute tour that many of us are interested in seeing in order to celebrate Prince's life. Otherwise that could just read as hate.

What hate? If they all had the potential then the only thing missing was the initiative. Prince never had any legal right whatsoever to keep them from performing whether they were performing their own material or covering songs they made with him. They were afraid of him for no reason.

Their mistake was putting all of their eggs in his basket when they should have done their own thing as soon as they saw what was going down. There was never a reason that they couldn't have continued without Prince except that they were divided amongst themselves.

Furthermore I don't get why y'all keep accusing people of saying that a tribute should never happen when that is not what is being said?

RIGHT ON!!!

GuyBros said:

babynoz said:

GuyBros said:

I don't know that it's even about "prevented from touring on their own."

The way Bobby tells it, it seems like he had to grant permission for them to utilize the moniker and perform the songs for the First Avenue performance. In that way, yes, Prince could have kept them from performing, legally speaking.

And the whole "that didn't last long" comment... It seems like you are relishing in the failure of those groups (whoever they are?). I hope that doesn't extend to a potential tribute tour that many of us are interested in seeing in order to celebrate Prince's life. Otherwise that could just read as hate.

What hate? If they all had the potential then the only thing missing was the initiative. Prince never had any legal right whatsoever to keep them from performing whether they were performing their own material or covering songs they made with him. They were afraid of him for no reason.

Their mistake was putting all of their eggs in his basket when they should have done their own thing as soon as they saw what was going down. There was never a reason that they couldn't have continued without Prince except that they were divided amongst themselves.

Furthermore I don't get why y'all keep accusing people of saying that a tribute should never happen when that is not what is being said?

1) Please don't obfiscate what I said. I directly reference "the use of the moniker" as well as Bobby's obervations about getting permission. Yes, as Bobby frames it, he asked for "permission." Prince could have prevented the use of the moniker which I think most here understand to be "preventing the Revolution from playing" and the way Bobby tells it, for this specific tribute, Prince could have rejected permission. I don't know though: I guess Bobby could be wrong?

2) I think what's being talked about are two different things.

I'm referencing the idea of a tribute concert and the previous reunion/s. I'm not discussing whether or not the group could have formed after they were disolved.

2) What accussation?

3) What hate? I didn't say hate did exist. I said that if the attitude being expressed that seemed joyful of a the failure of other groups was extended to a tribute tour, that could be read as hate.

Thanks.

4) "Why ya'll keep accussing people of saying that a tribute should never happen." Who is accusing people? Read above. Again, I mentioned that if the attitude expressed that seemed joyful of the failure of others groups was extended to the tribute tour, that could be read as hate.

But if ya'll aren't against, then doesn't apply to you.

[Edited 5/28/16 14:09pm]

GuyBros said:

babynoz said:

What hate? If they all had the potential then the only thing missing was the initiative. Prince never had any legal right whatsoever to keep them from performing whether they were performing their own material or covering songs they made with him. They were afraid of him for no reason.

Their mistake was putting all of their eggs in his basket when they should have done their own thing as soon as they saw what was going down. There was never a reason that they couldn't have continued without Prince except that they were divided amongst themselves.

Furthermore I don't get why y'all keep accusing people of saying that a tribute should never happen when that is not what is being said?

1) Please don't obfiscate what I said. I directly reference "the use of the moniker" as well as Bobby's obervations about getting permission. Yes, as Bobby frames it, he asked for "permission." Prince could have prevented the use of the moniker which I think most here understand to be "preventing the Revolution from playing" and the way Bobby tells it, for this specific tribute, Prince could have rejected permission. I don't know though: I guess Bobby could be wrong?

2) I think what's being talked about are two different things.

I'm referencing the idea of a tribute concert and the previous reunion/s. I'm not discussing whether or not the group could have formed after they were disolved.

2) What accussation?

3) What hate? I didn't say hate did exist. I said that if the attitude being expressed that seemed joyful of a the failure of other groups was extended to a tribute tour, that could be read as hate.

Thanks.

4) "Why ya'll keep accussing people of saying that a tribute should never happen." Who is accusing people? Read above. Again, I mentioned that if the attitude expressed that seemed joyful of the failure of others groups was extended to the tribute tour, that could be read as hate.

But if ya'll aren't against, then doesn't apply to you.

[Edited 5/28/16 14:09pm]

Curse this place. Replies keep vanishing into thin air. I need to remember to write in notepad then copy and paste because they will never upgrade this crappy site.

But that's another rant. Getting back to the topic I understand your clarification but I was actually referring to both scenarios. The moniker is neither here nor there. Either you move on with or without his permission or you don't. When it comes to re-forming the group then you need to make a determination whether rebranding is necessary and in this case it looks like it was. In other words they needed to be willing to hang together and start from scratch.

Regarding any tributes, haven't they gone forward with a tribute without his permission or participation a couple of times already?

If I missed any commments that were made against them touring please point them out because I have only seen comments saying to wait a while.

When you throw that word hate out there it's hard to determine your meaning. A question mark would have made it clearer but thank you for explaining.

GuyBros said:

babynoz said:

What hate? If they all had the potential then the only thing missing was the initiative. Prince never had any legal right whatsoever to keep them from performing whether they were performing their own material or covering songs they made with him. They were afraid of him for no reason.

Their mistake was putting all of their eggs in his basket when they should have done their own thing as soon as they saw what was going down. There was never a reason that they couldn't have continued without Prince except that they were divided amongst themselves.

Furthermore I don't get why y'all keep accusing people of saying that a tribute should never happen when that is not what is being said?

1) Please don't obfiscate what I said. I directly reference "the use of the moniker" as well as Bobby's obervations about getting permission. Yes, as Bobby frames it, he asked for "permission." Prince could have prevented the use of the moniker which I think most here understand to be "preventing the Revolution from playing" and the way Bobby tells it, for this specific tribute, Prince could have rejected permission. I don't know though: I guess Bobby could be wrong?

2) I think what's being talked about are two different things.

I'm referencing the idea of a tribute concert and the previous reunion/s. I'm not discussing whether or not the group could have formed after they were disolved.

2) What accussation?

3) What hate? I didn't say hate did exist. I said that if the attitude being expressed that seemed joyful of a the failure of other groups was extended to a tribute tour, that could be read as hate.

Thanks.

4) "Why ya'll keep accussing people of saying that a tribute should never happen." Who is accusing people? Read above. Again, I mentioned that if the attitude expressed that seemed joyful of the failure of others groups was extended to the tribute tour, that could be read as hate.

But if ya'll aren't against, then doesn't apply to you.

[Edited 5/28/16 14:09pm]

I loved the heck out of Condensate and the O7 and expressed that in detail right here on the Org, so there is no hate for any groups. The poster mentioned several times in this thread which I see you have no problem with how Prince screwed the Revolution members over. Which is a common theme on the Org. Factually I have no evidence that tells me in detail how they were screwed over what the reasonings behind anything,. THe Bobby Z example you keep using just tells me that they could not use a name but the show could still go on. Two groups tried to tour without him and it did not work and the Revolution members had all the freedom in the world to move and do shows together without anyone stopping them. My thoughts were more in response to those lines. Prince had nothing to do with stopping anyone from doing any shows before or after life. My initial post was about the timing and I believe I did wish them well.

[Edited 5/28/16 14:32pm]

GuyBros said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Right, I think of the Time(O7) when they wanted to open 4 Prince on the Welcome 2 Australia tour. And that would have been prime time excitement 2 another level. And there was some playfull jibing with the Family & Prince and I was just thinking about time and how we will regret when we get the news someone is gone.

With all the time that past, You can tell Vanity's passing really affected him. And when he got the news Bobby Z had a heart attack. When that happened Prince starting putting up a lot of Parade era images.

Word.

I can't read minds and pretend to know that "there is no way Prince would have done x"/"Prince would have done x" like some do.

But if there may be indicators that he had been loosening up about the whole "I don't look at the past" type thing going on. Those indicators you mentioned above coupled with insights such as Jimmy Jam stating Prince was considering opening up the vault to Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis to revisit those historical recordings.. those bits of information open up a picture of Prince as actually revisiting and embracing the past and not just distancing himself from it.

Yes and it is good to know he has reached out and connected with Jill Jones, Cat, Andre and many others from that period

wonder505 said:

keenly said:

PREACH!!

And what was stopping them from doing that when he was alive?

Prince owning the trademarks to the name "The Revolution", maybe?!?

wonder505 said:

SoulAlive said:

You bring up a good point.This is why I was so adamant about Prince doing a Revolution reunion.Time is not promised to anyone.These things must be done while everyone is still alive to be a part of it.I felt the same way about remasters.We're all getting old.Give us the remasters while we're still able to enjoy 'em (lol).I just think that Prince spent so much time trying to erase the past and distance himself from too many of the people in his past.That was unfortunate.

I distance myself from people in my past. Does everybody here kick it with everyone from their past? Don't think so. I think he didn't want a reunion cuz he simply wasn't interested.

I am actually still close to many people from my past.It's not a bad thing to keep in touch with people who "knew you back then" Unless,of course,those people did something to hurt you.

wonder505 said:

keenly said:

PREACH!!

And what was stopping them from doing that when he was alive?

Oh come on....you know that Prince would have somehow made it hard for them That's why I said earlier that these people probably feel a new sense of "freedom" that wasn't there before.

SoulAlive said:

wonder505 said:

SoulAlive said: I distance myself from people in my past. Does everybody here kick it with everyone from their past? Don't think so. I think he didn't want a reunion cuz he simply wasn't interested.

I am actually still close to many people from my past.It's not a bad thing to keep in touch with people who "knew you back then" Unless,of course,those people did something to hurt you.

I'm not saying its a bad thing. Just saying that it happens and that's a part of life. It doesnt have to involve hurting anyone, sometimes people just grow apart.

SoulAlive said:

wonder505 said:

keenly said: And what was stopping them from doing that when he was alive?

Oh come on....you know that Prince would have somehow made it hard for them That's why I said earlier that these people probably feel a new sense of "freedom" that wasn't there before.

um, you do realize you didnt answer my question.

[Edited 5/29/16 19:51pm]

TonyVanDam said:

wonder505 said:

keenly said: And what was stopping them from doing that when he was alive?

Prince owning the trademarks to the name "The Revolution", maybe?!?

Reasons why the Original 7ven and fDeluxe exist.

wonder505 said:

keenly said:

PREACH!!

And what was stopping them from doing that when he was alive?

They said it wouldn't feel right without Prince, the occasional charity show like they did was fine but not a full tour.

I'd prefer a Wendy and Lisa show myself, with some Revolution stuff thrown in for fun. BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

jaawwnn said:

wonder505 said:

keenly said: And what was stopping them from doing that when he was alive?

They said it wouldn't feel right without Prince, the occasional charity show like they did was fine but not a full tour.

I'd prefer a Wendy and Lisa show myself, with some Revolution stuff thrown in for fun. BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

Hey, I want to see a Revolution tribute AND a Girl Bros tour. As if my name wouldn't be a big enough clue.

And though I'm pretty damn sure this will never happen, I would be so down to see a set by The Rebels.

Hell, Dez played at the My Purple Heart Tribute. Andre is still making music. Matt is still producing an touring. Bobby is drumming to this day. And fack, Gayle's recent performance of If I Love You Tonight ( http://www.youtube.com/wa...Bl1gisD3c0 ) is dare I say even better than on the demo from over 30 years ago!

GuyBros said:

Hey, I want to see a Revolution tribute AND a Girl Bros tour. As if my name wouldn't be a big enough clue.

And though I'm pretty damn sure this will never happen, I would be so down to see a set by The Rebels.

Hell, Dez played at the My Purple Heart Tribute. Andre is still making music. Matt is still producing an touring. Bobby is drumming to this day. And fack, Gayle's recent performance of If I Love You Tonight ( http://www.youtube.com/wa...Bl1gisD3c0 ) is dare I say even better than on the demo from over 30 years ago!

Yes i'd be curious as to how many people will be involved in this overall. Andre didn't seem much interested in his old stuff when he toured a year or two back, which is a pity really.

jaawwnn said:

GuyBros said:

Hey, I want to see a Revolution tribute AND a Girl Bros tour. As if my name wouldn't be a big enough clue.

And though I'm pretty damn sure this will never happen, I would be so down to see a set by The Rebels.

Hell, Dez played at the My Purple Heart Tribute. Andre is still making music. Matt is still producing an touring. Bobby is drumming to this day. And fack, Gayle's recent performance of If I Love You Tonight ( http://www.youtube.com/wa...Bl1gisD3c0 ) is dare I say even better than on the demo from over 30 years ago!

Yes i'd be curious as to how many people will be involved in this overall. Andre didn't seem much interested in his old stuff when he toured a year or two back, which is a pity really.

Oh yeah, I wouldn't be hoping for even a tour or anything of the such. I would think it'd be really interesting if they could be even perform a single song collectively together again while sharing the same stage. One could be hopeful to see them at the proper tribute show in Minneapolis.

I don't know.... It's still so surreal that this person is gone. And even when thinking of the old bands doing stuff together, in the back of my head, it's still reflexive to think they would play a set with a guitar and a mic open and available in case Prince were to show up like at My Purple Heart show. I guess I'm still processing this.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

TonyVanDam said:

Prince owning the trademarks to the name "The Revolution", maybe?!?

Reasons why the Original 7ven and fDeluxe exist.

The Revelation [?!?]

Sigh.....

Back in the day, when the Revolution was broken up, I was shocked to hear the Revolution were week to week hired employees. I was shocked that they didn't have a contract with Warner Bros. The contract was only with Prince and not Prince & The Revolution. I remember reading that Wendy's weekly salary was $300.00 a week. That's what I made that in 1987 as a file clerk. But I was not in a major band, or on MTV. Many people, not just Wendy & Lisa have said that they contributed to Prince's music but didn't get the proper pay. The Family was on the radio, yet the band never had a contract. Levi Seacer, Jr, Tony M, Rosie Gaines, and more all said they contributed and didn't get the proper credit, and the result..... proper pay. Yet Prince complained he wasn't paid properly for his music. Prince said he had two Time albums in the vault. Ok..... if musicians should own their masters. Why didn't the Time hold those masters? If he belived what he stated about his own music, then why didn't he have the same respect for what others did? Wendy & Lisa said they were willing to work on the Roadhouse Garden album. But Prince was not going to pay them. People have asked Wendy & Lisa why Prince's music doesn't sound like it did when they were with him. The answer is..... They are not with him anymore. Yes they were a major part of what Prince published in what is known as "the golden age of Prince". When I read this site all anyone talks about is the lost Dream Factory album and the lost Crystal Ball album. Yet I don't hear cries for The Rainbow Children outtakes. Or a day by day examination of everything of the time around TRC. Not like the time around Dream Factory or Crystal Ball.

Now that he is gone you people are going to down them for getting a slight paycheck for work they never got properly paid for in the first place? Really?

For me this is not about money. For me this is about being able to see the Revolution. What I was sold back in the day was Prince & The Revolution..... Not just Prince.... When he died they had all kinds of big names on CNN commenting on his passing. I was wondering where were the members of the Revolution? Turned out they were with each other and other production people they worked with when they were with Prince. For me.... It was not too soon. For me it was what I needed.

I know this is going to spark hatred for what I wrote here. Because it was all Prince and nobody else.

It's sad that it has to come on the heels of Prince's death, but no surprise. Am pleased that they'll all be able to finally openly own, celebrate, relive, whatever they wish, that part of their lives, careers, work, relationships. And yes, make money if they can. I doubt it will become unreasonable; I don't foresee any of them selling blades of grass saved from the Paisley lawn.

LEATHRSAIL said:

Sigh.....

Back in the day, when the Revolution was broken up, I was shocked to hear the Revolution were week to week hired employees. I was shocked that they didn't have a contract with Warner Bros. The contract was only with Prince and not Prince & The Revolution. I remember reading that Wendy's weekly salary was $300.00 a week. That's what I made that in 1987 as a file clerk. But I was not in a major band, or on MTV. Many people, not just Wendy & Lisa have said that they contributed to Prince's music but didn't get the proper pay. The Family was on the radio, yet the band never had a contract. Levi Seacer, Jr, Tony M, Rosie Gaines, and more all said they contributed and didn't get the proper credit, and the result..... proper pay. Yet Prince complained he wasn't paid properly for his music. Prince said he had two Time albums in the vault. Ok..... if musicians should own their masters. Why didn't the Time hold those masters? If he belived what he stated about his own music, then why didn't he have the same respect for what others did? Wendy & Lisa said they were willing to work on the Roadhouse Garden album. But Prince was not going to pay them. People have asked Wendy & Lisa why Prince's music doesn't sound like it did when they were with him. The answer is..... They are not with him anymore. Yes they were a major part of what Prince published in what is known as "the golden age of Prince". When I read this site all anyone talks about is the lost Dream Factory album and the lost Crystal Ball album. Yet I don't hear cries for The Rainbow Children outtakes. Or a day by day examination of everything of the time around TRC. Not like the time around Dream Factory or Crystal Ball.

Now that he is gone you people are going to down them for getting a slight paycheck for work they never got properly paid for in the first place? Really?

For me this is not about money. For me this is about being able to see the Revolution. What I was sold back in the day was Prince & The Revolution..... Not just Prince.... When he died they had all kinds of big names on CNN commenting on his passing. I was wondering where were the members of the Revolution? Turned out they were with each other and other production people they worked with when they were with Prince. For me.... It was not too soon. For me it was what I needed.

I know this is going to spark hatred for what I wrote here. Because it was all Prince and nobody else.

His best stuff (musically and not lyrically) seem to have been written in that Purple house all by himself, or in LA all by himself.....The live 1st Avenue verions of the Purple Rain tracks aside, he worked better alone.

Linn4days said:

LEATHRSAIL said:

Sigh.....

Back in the day, when the Revolution was broken up, I was shocked to hear the Revolution were week to week hired employees. I was shocked that they didn't have a contract with Warner Bros. The contract was only with Prince and not Prince & The Revolution. I remember reading that Wendy's weekly salary was $300.00 a week. That's what I made that in 1987 as a file clerk. But I was not in a major band, or on MTV. Many people, not just Wendy & Lisa have said that they contributed to Prince's music but didn't get the proper pay. The Family was on the radio, yet the band never had a contract. Levi Seacer, Jr, Tony M, Rosie Gaines, and more all said they contributed and didn't get the proper credit, and the result..... proper pay. Yet Prince complained he wasn't paid properly for his music. Prince said he had two Time albums in the vault. Ok..... if musicians should own their masters. Why didn't the Time hold those masters? If he belived what he stated about his own music, then why didn't he have the same respect for what others did? Wendy & Lisa said they were willing to work on the Roadhouse Garden album. But Prince was not going to pay them. People have asked Wendy & Lisa why Prince's music doesn't sound like it did when they were with him. The answer is..... They are not with him anymore. Yes they were a major part of what Prince published in what is known as "the golden age of Prince". When I read this site all anyone talks about is the lost Dream Factory album and the lost Crystal Ball album. Yet I don't hear cries for The Rainbow Children outtakes. Or a day by day examination of everything of the time around TRC. Not like the time around Dream Factory or Crystal Ball.

Now that he is gone you people are going to down them for getting a slight paycheck for work they never got properly paid for in the first place? Really?

For me this is not about money. For me this is about being able to see the Revolution. What I was sold back in the day was Prince & The Revolution..... Not just Prince.... When he died they had all kinds of big names on CNN commenting on his passing. I was wondering where were the members of the Revolution? Turned out they were with each other and other production people they worked with when they were with Prince. For me.... It was not too soon. For me it was what I needed.

I know this is going to spark hatred for what I wrote here. Because it was all Prince and nobody else.

His best stuff (musically and not lyrically) seem to have been written in that Purple house all by himself, or in LA all by himself.....The live 1st Avenue verions of the Purple Rain tracks aside, he worked better alone.

I disagree with that. In that a lot of his stuff was just demoes. I heard the original demo of Kiss and I understand why he said it was fit to be heard. Once David Z MarkBrown & Mazarati got it, it became something wonderful. And then Prince's finishing touched made it a sparkling wonder.

Well I know many will disagree, BUT, I can say for a fact that these people would trade PRINCE alive for $$ made from touring IF they even make $$ from it. Whatever falling out they may have had in the past with each other at the end of the day, the person that took you and molded you or recognized you, or gave you a shot when no one else would, IS GONE. I can tell you from looking and hearing things that many have been saying on their Social Media sites, especially Morris Day who has been really opening up and posting tons of never seen photos and just writing some really deep things about their times, and he has even spoke about "opening up" about their last conversation they ever had. SO I really think everyone needs to chill on the proteges and friends, they lost someone who was their lives, they had this man in their presence alot, some of them knew him since school, or just as they rose up, so you can't forget the person that was ALWAYS SO PRESENT now all of a sudden is ABSENT in the world. Like we are all feeling it, times that by a million and that is what they feel. Read JUDITH HILL's letter on FB that she wrote and tell me she would rather "cash in" on this, seeing her write something like "Prince you don't get to do this, you don't get to die" that is something that we are all saying and feeling and she was someone that had her talents recognized more because of him, she was already known, but he took this "background" singer and gave her the "light" she deserved, you just don't forget that and say, OK he's gone cash in. Cashing in would be selling shirts with his words and image on it, making cds or bootleg dvds and selling them, selling jewelry or anything licensed by him without his consent, that is cashing in, and many are doing that, check amazon and ebay for all that! And what is with QuestLove wearing a bootleg shirt on TV. So cut them some slack, I HAVE no problem with any of them doing what they feel they have to do, to greive in their way, so if Morris and Shelia want to tour, if the Revolution want to play, if Judith Hill and Andy Allo and 3rd eye girl wanna do an all female tour, I HAVE NO ISSUES, they lost a lot more than we did.