Hmmm ... I think both women (Mayte & Manuela) were probably not right for him. Maybe the one is still running around somewhere (as he sang "Somewhere here on earth"), unfortunately, it's too late now.

both have more or less talked bad about him. Prince has never said a bad word about his ex women (at least I can not remember ). How he felt, could be heard in his songs.
I think their public mourning seems artificial (especially Mayte).

SheLovesMeNot said:

Too bad he was never able to produce a family of his own he missed out on so much. I think with Mayte he really truly tried. [Edited 5/28/16 18:34pm]

I have never understood why he didn't produce kids. I mean he was good looking so many women were after him. Either he was going for the wrong women, maybe actresses that were not interested in him or he was with Mani type of women, who just seem to have scorned him. He could have done it all he could have so many women. Maybe he was sterilized.

OzlemUcucu said:

I have never understood why he didn't produce kids. I mean he was good looking so many women were after him. Either he was going for the wrong women, maybe actresses that were not interested in him or he was with Mani type of women, who just seem to have scorned him. He could have done it all he could have so many women. Maybe he was

of sterilized.

it's his desire for a family that makes me skeptical of whoever it was(nona maybe) that said he told her to abort the baby. that just does not scan,imo. sounds to me,from the lyrics on 3121, that manuela cut he off the bitchy women usually do instead of talking out the grievence. which also might explain why she was so thirsty when eric came along. .........

just me talking. we'll never know.

I think he had problem with women that were as powerful as him. He would have turned the best and beautiful actress to a monster. Prince wanted a powerful succesful women but with those he couldn't do. He preferred the innocent fan-like acting women, he was naive he thought they will be loyal and reflect his own life like it was normal, but he was stupid in that regard. How many rockstars marry their fans or act like Elvis manner? What was he trying to be or what was he hiding from? A grown up man can't produce kids with that mind set.

Why didn't Prince and Mani have kids? I mean they were together for 5 years. That's a long time to be together and not have kids if you say Prince really wanted a family.

GhostChick said:

Why didn't Prince and Mani have kids? I mean they were together for 5 years. That's a long time to be together and not have kids if you say Prince really wanted a family.

That's why I think he could not produce. I think it was him than the other way round. It could also been pschological issues that Mayte had that led to a miscarriage, but I think it was rather his health issue. Shame really.

so what was the thing with prince tearing down the house. was it because of the divorce or was it a tax thing. he had the house on kiowa trail torn down after his dad died.

OzlemUcucu said:

GhostChick said:

Why didn't Prince and Mani have kids? I mean they were together for 5 years. That's a long time to be together and not have kids if you say Prince really wanted a family.

That's why I think he could not produce. I think it was him than the other way round. It could also been pschological issues that Mayte had that led to a miscarriage, but I think it was rather his health issue. Shame really.

Perhaps after the birth issues with his child with Mayte he didnt want to take a chance again>? That might stop anyone.

Zannaloaf said:

OzlemUcucu said:

That's why I think he could not produce. I think it was him than the other way round. It could also been pschological issues that Mayte had that led to a miscarriage, but I think it was rather his health issue. Shame really.

Perhaps after the birth issues with his child with Mayte he didnt want to take a chance again>? That might stop anyone.

I mean 5 years is a long time. Unless she didn't want to have kids before 30 I could see that.

SheLovesMeNot said:

Seems prince's interest in mani waned (as was the case with most of his relationships) since he was spending less time with her and not wearing his weeding ring down the stretch. She probably saw the writing on the wall and decided to get out. Neither lady got much it seems in terms of financial support. prince at least was smart about his money in that aspect.

cardinal said:

Charm4ever said:

When I read the part about her being daft, I almost fell out my chair laughing LOL, because I was thinking the same thing! How could she be the one to leave?...

i know, right? the more i read about him and watch interviews, the more i am intrigued by him as a person, outside the stage version of him. and the more i like him. i have to conclude that she was young and stupid or just outright wacked. there is no other logical explanation.

"I have to conclude that she was young and stupid or just outright wacked. There is no other logical explanation.

Let me first state, I love Prince to pieces, always have and always will. But to say that Mani was "stupid" or "wacked" just because she did not want to be married to "PRINCE" anymore is obsurd.

And to say that any explanation that she gave would be illogical to "you" is ludicrous. We don't know WHAT he did/said to her behind closed doors. I'm sure there are some things that none of the women he has been with will ever tell. All of those things people have been saying about Mani, such as her being an opportunist, only faking the JW thing ect. can be said of Prince as well. Since P has been gone I have gone over so many things concerning him over the years: interviews, pics(lord don't mention the ones with the dress, full face make up on the lovesexy publicity pic) music videos, thought about things people use to say about him in high school back in the 80's, also that nagging thought I had back then too but pushed it to the farthest part of mind and tried to forget about it. For all we know, all of his relationships could have been staged. All done for image purposes only. I mean, we can all say who we think he truly loved but we don't know if he actually loved any of them. Sure, he wrote songs about and to women, but they were just his muse and nothing more. Everytime I saw him kiss any woman, it was always dry and didn't seem genuine(that look on his face when he gave Mayte that hug near the end of the "Betcha By Golly Wow" video is scary). He told Chris Rock in an interview on YouTube that he told MJ that he was not repeating the line "Yo butt is mine", and that Mike wasn't saying it to him either. But then he goes and does a video for the song "Get Off" with that yellow outfit on with the butt out and Tony M is dry humping him. Like, WTF! Everyone is wondering why he didn't have any children, why he could never keep/have a successful relationship What if all of his relationships were just for image only...Just sayin.

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PaisleyPrint said:

Lord, these last two posts. Just cause the guy didn't want to settle down and was more in love with his music than he probably was with any of his women doesn't mean he was gay/bisexual.

[Edited 7/14/16 4:54am]

endiadj said:

endiadj said:

Lord, these last two posts. Just cause the guy didn't want to settle down and was more in love with his music than he probably was with any of his women doesn't mean he was gay/bisexual.

[Edited 7/14/16 4:54am]

I know I watched an interview with Mayte a while back and she said that Prince never got over the passing of their son. I do not want to speculate on his marriages but I just wanna say that I have a best guy friend that was engaged twice. Both times the women were abusive to my friend Physically and emotionally. My father has been single since 1996 because his 2nd wife (after he and my mom divorced and their marriage was abusive) but the woman my father married the 2nd time was the worst abusive woman when it came to men I ever witnessed as a child. I am not saying this happend to Prince but both my friend and my dad are literally terrified of ever getting married again. My friend has had a steady girl friend now for almost 2 years but he still cannot bring himself to go through an engagement much less think of marriage because of the abuse he endured from his past relationships. My father who was a proud loving man was left battered emotionally and 20 yrs later he still has a great fear of being in a relationship with women. I have been married twice and both times mine turned out that I left because of abuse.I have no desire to be in a relationship as it stands now. That being said we only know what Prince put out there and we only know what his former wives put out there. We as fans may not want to know the details. Sometimes not knowing is best.

RachB65 said:

PaisleyPrint said:

"I have to conclude that she was young and stupid or just outright wacked. There is no other logical explanation.

Let me first state, I love Prince to pieces, always have and always will. But to say that Mani was "stupid" or "wacked" just because she did not want to be married to "PRINCE" anymore is obsurd.

And to say that any explanation that she gave would be illogical to "you" is ludicrous. We don't know WHAT he did/said to her behind closed doors. I'm sure there are some things that none of the women he has been with will ever tell. All of those things people have been saying about Mani, such as her being an opportunist, only faking the JW thing ect. can be said of Prince as well. Since P has been gone I have gone over so many things concerning him over the years: interviews, pics(lord don't mention the ones with the dress, full face make up on the lovesexy publicity pic) music videos, thought about things people use to say about him in high school back in the 80's, also that nagging thought I had back then too but pushed it to the farthest part of mind and tried to forget about it. For all we know, all of his relationships could have been staged. All done for image purposes only. I mean, we can all say who we think he truly loved but we don't know if he actually loved any of them. Sure, he wrote songs about and to women, but they were just his muse and nothing more. Everytime I saw him kiss any woman, it was always dry and didn't seem genuine(that look on his face when he gave Mayte that hug near the end of the "Betcha By Golly Wow" video is scary). He told Chris Rock in an interview on YouTube that he told MJ that he was not repeating the line "Yo butt is mine", and that Mike wasn't saying it to him either. But then he goes and does a video for the song "Get Off" with that yellow outfit on with the butt out and Tony M is dry humping him. Like, WTF! Everyone is wondering why he didn't have any children, why he could never keep/have a successful relationship What if all of his relationships were just for image only...Just sayin.

[Edited 7/14/16 0:36am]

This thought has occurred to me a few times over the years also. If only because he adored n worshipped women, both in his work n personal life. Almost to the point of head scratching. I read where Mayte once said he was NOT the macho rock star lover, but a more subdued, feminine and romantic lover....Being a JW n being celibate in his last few yrs also made me take pause...If anything, i would think he was more bisexual than gay...Geminis seem to be the sign to easily swing back n forth...That dual, male/female aura he projected..and pulled off(mostly). But i go back to tales of his youth, the parade of girls he n Andre allegedly had, the convos Andre told of between them...And recent memories of people who met Prince or did one off jobs for...There always seemed to b a lady present he was trying to romance or impress...I would think it would b hard to keep up a facade like this for years, like in the long past days when someone's homosexuality was an open secret in the business but not to the public...back in those days images were created n fed to the public by movie studios or record labels, etc...The only person to feed Prince's image was P himself...and his very early career was questionable with his wardrobe choices...In my mind a guy who would wear bikini underwear both on n offstage screams gay to me. But Prince was an unique enigma, exactly the way he wanted it to be. His extreme privacy, etc...Its confusing to say the least. So in conclusion i think he may have been bisexual with the scale leaning toward hetero...like Vanity n Sheila, i think he may have been sexually abused or assaulted in his youth..Which as a male, being abused BY a male, could cause some confusion n uncomfortable feelings or attractions as an adult. His hyper womanizing, promiscuity n sexuality in his adult years are a clear indicator for that kind of past trauma...Then again, i would think he would not have been quite so daring with his wardrobe choices n would have projected a more masculine image to deal with those inner feelings...Its just too confusing to think about. At every turn theres a chockful of contradictions... In the end, does it even matter? Would u personally feel duped if he was bi or gay? Would u understand why he hid it if perhaps he himself didnt understand his own sexuality at times? If anything, it gave him an acute sensitivity to women in so many ways... Besides that woman who tried to sue him that time claiming sexually deviant behavior n occurences(and Mayte's exact opposite claims) I have never heard salacious behind the scene gossip about his sex life or sexual prowess. NDAs? Idk It truly doesnt matter but i think many people would b blown out the water if he wasnt completely hetero...Plus, becoming a JW would have restricted him in that arena also. Im pretty sure they dont embrace alternate lifestyles....

to everything you just posted. Another thing that's puzzling to me is his inconstant relationship with his dad, which seems to have been strained since that incident with that "girl" he was caught with when he was 12. He told Oprah his dad was in and out of his life and at the time of the shows taping he was estranged (the show where he was on with Mayte pt. 3). It's like Mr. Nelson Sr. would get close to P then pull away, and this has continued throughout his adult life. But why? I thought it might be jealousy but he was the one who pushed P to succeed and was so driven. Even said he named P after his stage name cause he wanted him to do everything he did and more. I do believe Mr. Nelson Sr. had a problem with P's stage attire and antics during the Dirty Mind and Controversy eras. And he more than likely saw those promo pics of him for Lovesexy and P in dresses and makeup. I've wondered too if it was really a girl he was caught with. Heard the stories from Andre about the girls too (and why would those stories be constantly thrown in our faces) but PePe Williams said they didn't have much time for girls because they were into their music so much

If nothing else though, one has to wonder about those pics in drag and makeup. Like, what was the purpose of that? especially given the fact that he was teased and called "Princess" in school. Why would anyone want to give credence to that? Was that a "test" (for lack of a better term) for his fans to see if we would accept that part of him? I don't know... But yeah, being a Gemeni, I could see him being bi and not completely gay. Would I still love him if he were either? Hecky yeah! I would love P no matter what! I'm sure he felt that he would loose a great majority of his admirers especially female,(of which I am one) if he were that way and revealed it. If he was I just wished he wouldn't have struggled so much with it. Not saying he "is" or "was" y'all. Just my I also wondered strongly about the molestation part too. Don't mean to veer too far off topic because this is about he and Mani's divorce but these things kinda tie into his marriages/relationships.

[Edited 7/15/16 4:33am]

I have often wondered about possible abuse/trauma in childhood affecting him.Something about those sad,sad beautiful eyes. I always got the feeling something terrible like that happened to him.

There is zero evidence of him being gay or bisexual. Wishful thinking isn't evidence. No one from his past, future, present has ever even tried to spread a rumor that he was.

Prince loved the ladies

endiadj said:

There is zero evidence of him being gay or bisexual. Wishful thinking isn't evidence. No one from his past, future, present has ever even tried to spread a rumor that he was.

Goddess4Real said:

RachB65 said:

Goddess4Real said:

Prince loved the ladies

I actually agree. I would think it impossible to hide that for so long without a single leak or gossip.

I believe that situation with Mayte was about family and a child that died. I believe the child they lost was the reason they married AND divorced. I love Mayte but she was too young, nieve and inexperienced to be with him from the start and suffered greatly becuase of it, even now.

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With Mani i believe, he was in his 40's, very into his JW religion and wanted that image of a conservative, happily married man with a God loving/JW wife---he just married the wrong one---and thats that. My 2 cents

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Ok, so......Vanitys brother in law recently said here (on the org) that she told him Prince was the most masculine man she had ever met and verrrrrry jealous..at least with her he was. Denise met him around the time (Controversy tour) he got on stage with a g-string, make up and high heel boots every night--------------and that was her thoughts of him MASCULINE!!!!

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I think he was just an expressive, sexually charged GENIUS (they're different on all levels) that wanted to give his all to his fans and with the ladies, yeah, back in the day he was a true player

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Go to How soon is ''too soon?'' thread here on Associated Artists...his name is TOB he posted twice on the 2nd page..its a great read...Enjoy

GeniusLuv said: