Vashtix said:

purplegirl00 said:

THAT answers the obsession with the shower and the bathing! Nice connection Beachy.

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I always felt that WDC was about her leaving him and someone pointed out the vanity mirror he is standing in front of and the mirror split screen. I think it was 30yearfan.

After that discussion on this thread I went back and watched WDC on mute and it was like watching a whole new vid; the vanity mirror as someone pointed out and the duplicity-this thread has given a whole new outlook to alot of his vids and lyrics

Indeed! Not just WDC but many others as well- even in his new stuff there are hints and references to Denise in there too.

beachy said:

Vashtix said:

I never noticed that until this thread but WDC ha mirrors and the duplicity- I will never view it or hear it the same again

Now if we could just figure out why she picked the name Samuelle for Prince!

You are so good at getting info and clues I am sure you find out soon

I am depending on that I have been enjoying the pieces being placed together

cng89 said:

kellyna said:

Hey Pax,

Thanks for sharing that Vanity story. I enjoyed that even after turning to religion there was still that fiestiness in her personality to say "hey Prince didn't break up with me, I left him" - ha! I think it was in 1997 or 1998 that she also said that "Prince was the only man that she had ever really loved" so she never denied his feelings for him and by all accounts she loved him till the day she died.

And you're right not only were the two of them gorgeous together, I remember people who saw them in person together noting what a "completely striking couple they were" but they were like the perfect "pocket sized couple" - ha!

A number of us on this thread mentioned that we were surprised by how many former friends / associates of Prince referenced Vanity after Prince died and the coincidence of them passing away so close to each other and that's what started this whole thread and discussion.

Kellyna, I am cracking up at 'pocket sized couple', LMAOOO!

kellyna said:

Vashtix said:

I am on this thread and I don't understand it but I appreciate all the info you shared - I know I said it before but it is therapeutic and helps me work through the mourning , the profound loss

Me too - honestly I've become addicted to this thread. I need to check in pretty much everyday to see what new information we uncovered and new theories we are discussing!

I check during the day too ! There is always something new

beachy said:

Vashtix said:

I never noticed that until this thread but WDC ha mirrors and the duplicity- I will never view it or hear it the same again

Now if we could just figure out why she picked the name Samuelle for Prince!

OH MY GOODNESS! Beachy we gotta figure that one out. Great, now I'll have Samuelle on my mind.

Paxi said:

beachy said:

damn! any other details? did she say why or how she left him? any hint that she had seen him after Purple Rain, say in the late 80s or early 90s? that they considered getting back together?

We developed a sense in this thread that they definitely were in contact in 1987, because Nikki Sixx's book spoke of it...

We are really lacking any confirmed info after 1987 about what may have happened...

I realize she was busy preaching to you, girl had a mission... lol

Ha. Yes she did! She was too much, seriously. Lovely and sweet but she just was on it hard. She talked about having to have dialysis and relayed the whole story of basically dying and coming back when she was in the hospital. She really wanted to focus on who she was now. But low key, that whole life with Prince and what happened afterward were what brought people to her. People at the church service wanted to hear about Prince and she wasn't there for that. She was extreme but she was genuine. She knew "Vanity" brought people to hear her message but once you were in her presence, it was all about God and her trying to save as many people as she could. I respected her greatly for that.

Hi Pax Thanks for sharing with us! It's great to get first hand experience. Just a question about what you discussed with Vanity about her OD. Do you know when that was exactly? Or what may have triggered it? Was this when she talks about seeing Jesus?

Girls now that we know that bathing together was a big thing for them, take a look at the beginning of this video...and imagine you are Vanity...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFxI61jTYJY

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besides the tub and the mirror, there is the drawing of a woman's face (does it look like Vanity?) and the MIRROR images of Prince and Lisa superimposed when they are dancing...

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cng89 said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

I was thinking about this after we spoke about it yesterday. I don't know when he arrived in Australia for his tour and whether he literally rocked up on the day or had been there for awhile. He may have been somewhere over the Pacific in transit when she was hospitalised and passed. In that case, he wouldn't have been able to talk to her even if they were in contact. He may have just stepped off the plane and been told she died.

I feel like it happened so fast. He probably didn't know what the heck was going on.

That's my feeling too.

purplegirl00 said:

Vashtix said:

After that discussion on this thread I went back and watched WDC on mute and it was like watching a whole new vid; the vanity mirror as someone pointed out and the duplicity-this thread has given a whole new outlook to alot of his vids and lyrics

Indeed! Not just WDC but many others as well- even in his new stuff there are hints and references to Denise in there too.

Clearly she was the ultimate muse

kellyna said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

No problem. If you do find out how to take a copy of the songs could you let me know? Thanks

Sure - will do, but I'm beginning to think you actually can't do that - that it only allows you to listen to it.

That's what I thought too.

SunnyGirl8 said:

Paxi said:

Ha. Yes she did! She was too much, seriously. Lovely and sweet but she just was on it hard. She talked about having to have dialysis and relayed the whole story of basically dying and coming back when she was in the hospital. She really wanted to focus on who she was now. But low key, that whole life with Prince and what happened afterward were what brought people to her. People at the church service wanted to hear about Prince and she wasn't there for that. She was extreme but she was genuine. She knew "Vanity" brought people to hear her message but once you were in her presence, it was all about God and her trying to save as many people as she could. I respected her greatly for that.

Hi Pax Thanks for sharing with us! It's great to get first hand experience. Just a question about what you discussed with Vanity about her OD. Do you know when that was exactly? Or what may have triggered it? Was this when she talks about seeing Jesus?

No, I can't remember that. This was almost 20 years ago, remember. I wished I'd recorded our conversation but it was just her opening up and sharing.

beachy said:

Girls now that we know that bathing together was a big thing for them, take a look at the beginning of this video...and imagine you are Vanity...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFxI61jTYJY

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besides the tub and the mirror, there is the drawing of a woman's face (does it look like Vanity?) and the split images of Prince and Lisa superimposed when they are dancing...

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Come on baby let's go. I've got the Caress Body Wash ready...

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I WAS JUST ABOUT TO MENTION THE DRAWING! Looks like her dreamy eyes to me!

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SunnyGirl8 said:

kellyna said:

Sure - will do, but I'm beginning to think you actually can't do that - that it only allows you to listen to it.

That's what I thought too.

Tidido has the early configuration of the album Come on it, which has the original Poem, and I think the album is better than the one they released. It has Interactive and Endorphinmachine on it , changes the feel to more of a rock album.

Paxi said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

Hi Pax Thanks for sharing with us! It's great to get first hand experience. Just a question about what you discussed with Vanity about her OD. Do you know when that was exactly? Or what may have triggered it? Was this when she talks about seeing Jesus?

No, I can't remember that. This was almost 20 years ago, remember. I wished I'd recorded our conversation but it was just her opening up and sharing.

Ok thanks.

beachy said:

Girls now that we know that bathing together was a big thing for them, take a look at the beginning of this video...and imagine you are Vanity...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFxI61jTYJY

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besides the tub and the mirror, there is the drawing of a woman's face (does it look like Vanity?) and the split images of Prince and Lisa superimposed when they are dancing...

[Edited 5/27/16 20:16pm]

Yep. I will never see it the same ever

Paxi said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

Hi Pax Thanks for sharing with us! It's great to get first hand experience. Just a question about what you discussed with Vanity about her OD. Do you know when that was exactly? Or what may have triggered it? Was this when she talks about seeing Jesus?

No, I can't remember that. This was almost 20 years ago, remember. I wished I'd recorded our conversation but it was just her opening up and sharing.

I can imagine its a long time ago but if any more details come to mind, we are ALL EARS! sometimes insignificant things like the caress wash (I might have to try that now lol) are a piece of the puzzle and they fit. Thanks again for sharing!

beachy said:

Paxi said:

No, I can't remember that. This was almost 20 years ago, remember. I wished I'd recorded our conversation but it was just her opening up and sharing.

I can imagine its a long time ago but if any more details come to mind, we are ALL EARS! sometimes insignificant things like the caress wash (I might have to try that now lol) are a piece of the puzzle and they fit. Thanks again for sharing!

You're welcome! Thanks for being interested in it. I didn't, until now, even put together the Caress and his bath "dynamic" with women. lol. Decades later and I only realize it now because of what you wrote! So much to still learn! :0)

I have to admit it's just kind of bizarre just how hung up he is on her. This is Get Hot Wit U from around 2000. It's using part of Nasty Girl from 1982. The woman in it looks just like Vanity. Am I the only person who thinks he's just kind of obsessed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aIq1zxXqU

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SunnyGirl8 said:

I have to admit it's just kind of bizarre just how hung up he is on her. This is Get Hot Wit U from around 1990. It's using part of Nasty Girl from 1982. The woman in it looks just like Vanity. Am I the only person who thinks he's just kind of obsessed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aIq1zxXqU

Wow. I've never seen this until now! He sure was hung up on her. But, I mean, it was Vanity, can you blame him? lol. I've always said she is THE most beautiful woman I have ever seen. I said it in 1984 and I'm still saying it in 2016!

beachy said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

That's what I thought too.

Tidido has the early configuration of the album Come on it, which has the original Poem, and I think the album is better than the one they released. It has Interactive and Endorphinmachine on it , changes the feel to more of a rock album.

Tidido is pretty special - some of the stuff that's on there is really hard to get hold of.

SunnyGirl8 said:

I have to admit it's just kind of bizarre just how hung up he is on her. This is Get Hot Wit U from around 2000. It's using part of Nasty Girl from 1982. The woman in it looks just like Vanity. Am I the only person who thinks he's just kind of obsessed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aIq1zxXqU

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Wow, it does look like her. Vanity wore hats so the silhoutte of the girl with the long hair and hat matches that.

Paxi said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

I have to admit it's just kind of bizarre just how hung up he is on her. This is Get Hot Wit U from around 1990. It's using part of Nasty Girl from 1982. The woman in it looks just like Vanity. Am I the only person who thinks he's just kind of obsessed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aIq1zxXqU

Wow. I've never seen this until now! He sure was hung up on her. But, I mean, it was Vanity, can you blame him? lol. I've always said she is THE most beautiful woman I have ever seen. I said it in 1984 and I'm still saying it in 2016!

Don't get me wrong she was beautiful and I guess it is a video for a song using Nasty Girl but it's still kind of weird!

Paxi said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

I have to admit it's just kind of bizarre just how hung up he is on her. This is Get Hot Wit U from around 1990. It's using part of Nasty Girl from 1982. The woman in it looks just like Vanity. Am I the only person who thinks he's just kind of obsessed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aIq1zxXqU

Wow. I've never seen this until now! He sure was hung up on her. But, I mean, it was Vanity, can you blame him? lol. I've always said she is THE most beautiful woman I have ever seen. I said it in 1984 and I'm still saying it in 2016!

It's so interesting how many people who met Vanity in person made the same statement, "that she was just so beautiful in person - just stunning." I've heard or read it at least 2 dozen times over the last couple of months. As Beachy noted men were probably always hitting on her and it likely bothered Prince quite abit.

purplegirl00 said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

I have to admit it's just kind of bizarre just how hung up he is on her. This is Get Hot Wit U from around 2000. It's using part of Nasty Girl from 1982. The woman in it looks just like Vanity. Am I the only person who thinks he's just kind of obsessed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aIq1zxXqU

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Wow, it does look like her. Vanity wore hats so the silhoutte of the girl with the long hair and hat matches that.

What about the half naked girl writhing all over the bed?

Here's a new detail I just noticed in the WDC video: at the very end, the drawing of the woman's face cries:

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[img:$uid]http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a477/hyperboly/prince%20vanity%20WDC%20tear%20on%20face%20at%20end_zpsu0mlriuk.jpg[/img:$uid]

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And that reminded me of a similar image last month on April 8th, the day after he canceled the Atlanta concerts the first time, Prince's twitter avatar changed, and added a tear.

[img:$uid]http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a477/hyperboly/Prince%20adds%20tear%20to%20avatar%20april%208%202016_zpssxk91tmt.jpg[/img:$uid]

SunnyGirl8 said:

I have to admit it's just kind of bizarre just how hung up he is on her. This is Get Hot Wit U from around 2000. It's using part of Nasty Girl from 1982. The woman in it looks just like Vanity. Am I the only person who thinks he's just kind of obsessed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aIq1zxXqU

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I am shocked how much it reminds me of Vanity

Wow . . .just wow

beachy said:

Here's a new detail I just noticed in the WDC video: at the very end, the drawing of the woman's face cries:

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[img:$uid]http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a477/hyperboly/prince%20vanity%20WDC%20tear%20on%20face%20at%20end_zpsu0mlriuk.jpg[/img:$uid]

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And that reminded me of a similar image last month on April 8th, the day after he canceled the Atlanta concerts the first time, Prince's twitter avatar changed, and added a tear.

[img:$uid]http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a477/hyperboly/Prince%20adds%20tear%20to%20avatar%20april%208%202016_zpssxk91tmt.jpg[/img:$uid]

God that's just depressing. WDC was about her leaving him. And now she's literally left.

SunnyGirl8 said:

I have to admit it's just kind of bizarre just how hung up he is on her. This is Get Hot Wit U from around 2000. It's using part of Nasty Girl from 1982. The woman in it looks just like Vanity. Am I the only person who thinks he's just kind of obsessed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aIq1zxXqU

[Edited 5/27/16 20:34pm]

Wow

It looks like Vanity- WOW

The thing is so many who did not know about Vanity would never get the connection

Do you think I hate you is about Vanity?

Vashtix said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

I have to admit it's just kind of bizarre just how hung up he is on her. This is Get Hot Wit U from around 2000. It's using part of Nasty Girl from 1982. The woman in it looks just like Vanity. Am I the only person who thinks he's just kind of obsessed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aIq1zxXqU

[Edited 5/27/16 20:34pm]

I am shocked how much it reminds me of Vanity

Wow . . .just wow

It's pretty amazing isn't it!

SunnyGirl8 said:

beachy said:

Here's a new detail I just noticed in the WDC video: at the very end, the drawing of the woman's face cries:

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[img:$uid]http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a477/hyperboly/prince%20vanity%20WDC%20tear%20on%20face%20at%20end_zpsu0mlriuk.jpg[/img:$uid]

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And that reminded me of a similar image last month on April 8th, the day after he canceled the Atlanta concerts the first time, Prince's twitter avatar changed, and added a tear.

[img:$uid]http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a477/hyperboly/Prince%20adds%20tear%20to%20avatar%20april%208%202016_zpssxk91tmt.jpg[/img:$uid]

God that's just depressing. WDC was about her leaving him. And now she's literally left.

Well I was always curious who that woman is supposed to represent. It didn't particularly remind me of Vanity - but it's kind of face with classic features, so it could be. But did Vanity have blue eyes?