kellyna said:

purplegirl00 said:

cng89 said: YES! Maybe to some degree, this is what he's talking about in Revelation.

This is exactly what I said a few pages back - that despite his claims that he doesn't like to look back, his heart always reckoned back to that time when he first met Denise and was involved with her - I think it likely represented one of the best periods of his life. And I think he continued to write songs about it, about her, about them for the rest of his life!!

I agree his time with her impacted the rest of his life. Their story captivated the world with Purple Rain and now in death I am captivated by their story in their deaths.

I've come to the conclusion that I don't always believe what Prince says. Firstly, I know that celebrities have a persona to project. It's a big part of their job. They do publicity and have to keep a narrative up to the public. Secondly they have to say things in public that they would rather not, so they fudge the truth. I don't believe he wrote Adore for Susannah, they had been hanging by a thread for over a year and they broke up for good the next month. The details of the lyrics and what we know about Vanity points directly to her. Finally, he not only dedicated the song to her but he lingered over it and acted like he didn't want to stop singing it in Melbourne and planted the story about the pool right in the middle of the song. So I think he lied if he said it was for Susannah in 2002. Why did he lie? The story had already been put out there that it was for Susannah by Susan Rogers. And now he was married to Mani. If he said it was for Vanity, and Vanity was in contact with him and Mani at this time for her surgeries and help, then he would be creating problems in his marriage, problems of jealousy perhaps. Much easier and safer to go with the flow and say susannah. Plus if he had actually said at the time it had been written for Vanity and that was a time she was engaged to Nikki Sixx, his entire fan base would have been talking much like we are on this thread right now, all a flutter!! Too many problems with fans and his wife, and possibly with Vanity and her life, but also makes him look like a reject since she went with Nikki instead. His ego too big for that public humiliation.

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I also don't believe he's been celibate all this time. I think what he he actually said was he goes back and forth between being celibate and not, and that I can buy.

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kellyna said:

cng89 said:

Prince and S.E. come across as brother and sister to me, always have. I don't know if he could have made the kind of music he wanted with S.E. or Denise around because S.E. is in his age bracket and of course Denise was deeply religious. If he wanted to feel young neither one would have worked out for him, I guess. Love S.E. though, she is one of the greatest of all time!

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Yeah I agree - I think they were great partners with the music and they obviously got along very well, but it just never seemed to be like they had alot of chemistry between them. And when Sheila mentioned after his death that he had once proposed to her, I wasn't sure I believed it. The way she said it happened that he just turned during a show and mouthed it to her made it seem like it was a sweet moment between friends (not necessarily a real proposal). Plus as others have noted, it seems like almost all the women who were involved with Prince thought they were engaged to him at some point. ha!

Prince was a very spontaneous person so I am not at all surprised that he proposed to her on stage because he proposed so many time before and after her apparently. He likes to live in the moment it seems. If I was Sheila and those other girls, I would have been like, uh-uh! I know you, Prince so don't even try it, LOL! He was just an in the moment kind of man.

wizardtelly said:

I just started crying. I can't seem to copy and paste it but it's from her Facebook/book. "I measured his shadow, and it was exactly mine"

Is that Vanity talking about Prince? Can you post a link?

beachy said:

During the 80s all the main women around Prince were strong. Cat. Vanity, Sheila, Susannah, Kim.

From 1990 they were young and moldable.

I think he changed. First, UTCM and GB were failures. Second, he discovered he didn't own his masters and got into a war with WB. Third, music taste changed to hip hop / rap which to me is already much less for strong women, almost misogynistic some would say. To some extent he followed that trend. To go from Lovesexy tour to Nude tour, if you watch them, says alot.

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I personally don't think Vanity and Prince had contact lately, or if they did it was bittersweet romance or firm and maybe awkward friendship. I think her death brought the latent feelings of how much he loved her to the surface. And that is what we saw in the P&M concerts. I think he believed they would be together again in the next life, and I believe it too. they had some kind of 'deal' to work through in this life, which as we now know, is a kind of 'Parade.'

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The only loose end I personally have now is the secret he was going to reveal in GB.

I was thinking about this last night. I'm so curious as to how much contact they might have had or not had over the last year of Denise's life. We've guessed that he managed to kind of keep tabs on her and they had mutual friends (Shiela E, Apples etc) which might also have given him some second-hand news about her and her health. I wonder did he follow her on Facebook or other social media. I remember her saying in that 2007 interview that she would love to see him face to face and would leave it up to God to supernaturally make it happen. She mentioned in that interview that they spoke from time to time.

But did he know just how sick she was when she got that last diagnosis (that we discussed earlier in the thread). I posted how I saw some medical expert talk about it after Denise's death and he had said that once people are diagnosed with it, they rarely survive more than about 6 months (which was about how long she lasted).

For some reason, based on Prince's emotional reaction when he got the news while in Australia, i got the sense that her death had surprised him - that he hadn't expected it to happen. That while he knew that she was continually battling health issues, he might have assumed that she would once again beat the odds and live for years and years more. And one of the reasons he might have been so emotional is that he didn't really get the chance to say goodbye to her and to tell her just how much she meant to him and continued to mean to him.

I also wondered about the program at Denise's memorial service. We know that Prince was there for most of it and sat up in the balcony. What must he have thought when he read that line about "her not feeling worthy of love?" Would it make him sad and full of regret that maybe in the end she didn't realize how much he had loved her because he always expressed himself through his music instead of telling her these things to her face?

There's nothing worse than losing someone you love and feeling like things were unresolved or left unsaid between you. And if he hadn't seen her in person in years, he might also have felt badly about that as well.

Vashtix said:

kellyna said:

This is exactly what I said a few pages back - that despite his claims that he doesn't like to look back, his heart always reckoned back to that time when he first met Denise and was involved with her - I think it likely represented one of the best periods of his life. And I think he continued to write songs about it, about her, about them for the rest of his life!!

I agree his time with her impacted the rest of his life. Their story captivated the world with Purple Rain and now in death I am captivated by their story in their deaths.

She was definitely an important woman, if not the most important woman to ever come into his life. I believe he finally saw that female he said that he had inside him when he first met her. That man literally stopped in his tracks when he saw her. He knew that was his twinsoul.

beachy said:

kellyna said:

beachy said:

During the 80s all the main women around Prince were strong. Cat. Vanity, Sheila, Susannah, Kim.

From 1990 they were young and moldable.

I think he changed. First, UTCM and GB were failures. Second, he discovered he didn't own his masters and got into a war with WB. Third, music taste changed to hip hop / rap which to me is already much less for strong women, almost misogynistic some would say. To some extent he followed that trend. To go from Lovesexy tour to Nude tour, if you watch them, says alot.

.

I personally don't think Vanity and Prince had contact lately, or if they did it was bittersweet romance or firm and maybe awkward friendship. I think her death brought the latent feelings of how much he loved her to the surface. And that is what we saw in the P&M concerts. I think he believed they would be together again in the next life, and I believe it too. they had some kind of 'deal' to work through in this life, which as we now know, is a kind of 'Parade.'

.

The only loose end I personally have now is the secret he was going to reveal in GB.

I was thinking about this last night. I'm so curious as to how much contact they might have had or not had over the last year of Denise's life. We've guessed that he managed to kind of keep tabs on her and they had mutual friends (Shiela E, Apples etc) which might also have given him some second-hand news about her and her health. I wonder did he follow her on Facebook or other social media. I remember her saying in that 2007 interview that she would love to see him face to face and would leave it up to God to supernaturally make it happen. She mentioned in that interview that they spoke from time to time.

But did he know just how sick she was when she got that last diagnosis (that we discussed earlier in the thread). I posted how I saw some medical expert talk about it after Denise's death and he had said that once people are diagnosed with it, they rarely survive more than about 6 months (which was about how long she lasted).

For some reason, based on Prince's emotional reaction when he got the news while in Australia, i got the sense that her death had surprised him - that he hadn't expected it to happen. That while he knew that she was continually battling health issues, he might have assumed that she would once again beat the odds and live for years and years more. And one of the reasons he might have been so emotional is that he didn't really get the chance to say goodbye to her and to tell her just how much she meant to him and continued to mean to him.

I also wondered about the program at Denise's memorial service. We know that Prince was there for most of it and sat up in the balcony. What must he have thought when he read that line about "her not feeling worthy of love?" Would it make him sad and full of regret that maybe in the end she didn't realize how much he had loved her because he always expressed himself through his music instead of telling her these things to her face?

There's nothing worse than losing someone you love and feeling like things were unresolved or left unsaid between you. And if he hadn't seen her in person in years, he might also have felt badly about that as well.

I missed that he went to funeral;

kellyna said:

beachy said:

During the 80s all the main women around Prince were strong. Cat. Vanity, Sheila, Susannah, Kim.

From 1990 they were young and moldable.

I think he changed. First, UTCM and GB were failures. Second, he discovered he didn't own his masters and got into a war with WB. Third, music taste changed to hip hop / rap which to me is already much less for strong women, almost misogynistic some would say. To some extent he followed that trend. To go from Lovesexy tour to Nude tour, if you watch them, says alot.

.

I personally don't think Vanity and Prince had contact lately, or if they did it was bittersweet romance or firm and maybe awkward friendship. I think her death brought the latent feelings of how much he loved her to the surface. And that is what we saw in the P&M concerts. I think he believed they would be together again in the next life, and I believe it too. they had some kind of 'deal' to work through in this life, which as we now know, is a kind of 'Parade.'

.

The only loose end I personally have now is the secret he was going to reveal in GB.

I was thinking about this last night. I'm so curious as to how much contact they might have had or not had over the last year of Denise's life. We've guessed that he managed to kind of keep tabs on her and they had mutual friends (Shiela E, Apples etc) which might also have given him some second-hand news about her and her health. I wonder did he follow her on Facebook or other social media. I remember her saying in that 2007 interview that she would love to see him face to face and would leave it up to God to supernaturally make it happen. She mentioned in that interview that they spoke from time to time.

But did he know just how sick she was when she got that last diagnosis (that we discussed earlier in the thread). I posted how I saw some medical expert talk about it after Denise's death and he had said that once people are diagnosed with it, they rarely survive more than about 6 months (which was about how long she lasted).

For some reason, based on Prince's emotional reaction when he got the news while in Australia, i got the sense that her death had surprised him - that he hadn't expected it to happen. That while he knew that she was continually battling health issues, he might have assumed that she would once again beat the odds and live for years and years more. And one of the reasons he might have been so emotional is that he didn't really get the chance to say goodbye to her and to tell her just how much she meant to him and continued to mean to him.

I also wondered about the program at Denise's memorial service. We know that Prince was there for most of it and sat up in the balcony. What must he have thought when he read that line about "her not feeling worthy of love?" Would it make him sad and full of regret that maybe in the end she didn't realize how much he had loved her because he always expressed himself through his music instead of telling her these things to her face?

There's nothing worse than losing someone you love and feeling like things were unresolved or left unsaid between you. And if he hadn't seen her in person in years, he might also have felt badly about that as well.

beachy said:

kellyna said:

beachy said:

During the 80s all the main women around Prince were strong. Cat. Vanity, Sheila, Susannah, Kim.

From 1990 they were young and moldable.

I think he changed. First, UTCM and GB were failures. Second, he discovered he didn't own his masters and got into a war with WB. Third, music taste changed to hip hop / rap which to me is already much less for strong women, almost misogynistic some would say. To some extent he followed that trend. To go from Lovesexy tour to Nude tour, if you watch them, says alot.

.

I personally don't think Vanity and Prince had contact lately, or if they did it was bittersweet romance or firm and maybe awkward friendship. I think her death brought the latent feelings of how much he loved her to the surface. And that is what we saw in the P&M concerts. I think he believed they would be together again in the next life, and I believe it too. they had some kind of 'deal' to work through in this life, which as we now know, is a kind of 'Parade.'

.

The only loose end I personally have now is the secret he was going to reveal in GB.

I was thinking about this last night. I'm so curious as to how much contact they might have had or not had over the last year of Denise's life. We've guessed that he managed to kind of keep tabs on her and they had mutual friends (Shiela E, Apples etc) which might also have given him some second-hand news about her and her health. I wonder did he follow her on Facebook or other social media. I remember her saying in that 2007 interview that she would love to see him face to face and would leave it up to God to supernaturally make it happen. She mentioned in that interview that they spoke from time to time.

But did he know just how sick she was when she got that last diagnosis (that we discussed earlier in the thread). I posted how I saw some medical expert talk about it after Denise's death and he had said that once people are diagnosed with it, they rarely survive more than about 6 months (which was about how long she lasted).

For some reason, based on Prince's emotional reaction when he got the news while in Australia, i got the sense that her death had surprised him - that he hadn't expected it to happen. That while he knew that she was continually battling health issues, he might have assumed that she would once again beat the odds and live for years and years more. And one of the reasons he might have been so emotional is that he didn't really get the chance to say goodbye to her and to tell her just how much she meant to him and continued to mean to him.

I also wondered about the program at Denise's memorial service. We know that Prince was there for most of it and sat up in the balcony. What must he have thought when he read that line about "her not feeling worthy of love?" Would it make him sad and full of regret that maybe in the end she didn't realize how much he had loved her because he always expressed himself through his music instead of telling her these things to her face?

There's nothing worse than losing someone you love and feeling like things were unresolved or left unsaid between you. And if he hadn't seen her in person in years, he might also have felt badly about that as well.

Kellyna, you done got me in my feelings. I can't even imagine how he felt when he heard about her death or how he felt at her service and reading that line in there. I am so saddened by this.

Goddess4Real said:

kellyna said:

I was thinking about this last night. I'm so curious as to how much contact they might have had or not had over the last year of Denise's life. We've guessed that he managed to kind of keep tabs on her and they had mutual friends (Shiela E, Apples etc) which might also have given him some second-hand news about her and her health. I wonder did he follow her on Facebook or other social media. I remember her saying in that 2007 interview that she would love to see him face to face and would leave it up to God to supernaturally make it happen. She mentioned in that interview that they spoke from time to time.

But did he know just how sick she was when she got that last diagnosis (that we discussed earlier in the thread). I posted how I saw some medical expert talk about it after Denise's death and he had said that once people are diagnosed with it, they rarely survive more than about 6 months (which was about how long she lasted).

For some reason, based on Prince's emotional reaction when he got the news while in Australia, i got the sense that her death had surprised him - that he hadn't expected it to happen. That while he knew that she was continually battling health issues, he might have assumed that she would once again beat the odds and live for years and years more. And one of the reasons he might have been so emotional is that he didn't really get the chance to say goodbye to her and to tell her just how much she meant to him and continued to mean to him.

I also wondered about the program at Denise's memorial service. We know that Prince was there for most of it and sat up in the balcony. What must he have thought when he read that line about "her not feeling worthy of love?" Would it make him sad and full of regret that maybe in the end she didn't realize how much he had loved her because he always expressed himself through his music instead of telling her these things to her face?

There's nothing worse than losing someone you love and feeling like things were unresolved or left unsaid between you. And if he hadn't seen her in person in years, he might also have felt badly about that as well.

Completely agree with this. I think if he knew she needed money, he would have given her whatever she needed without hesitation.

Vashtix said:

kellyna said:

I was thinking about this last night. I'm so curious as to how much contact they might have had or not had over the last year of Denise's life. We've guessed that he managed to kind of keep tabs on her and they had mutual friends (Shiela E, Apples etc) which might also have given him some second-hand news about her and her health. I wonder did he follow her on Facebook or other social media. I remember her saying in that 2007 interview that she would love to see him face to face and would leave it up to God to supernaturally make it happen. She mentioned in that interview that they spoke from time to time.

But did he know just how sick she was when she got that last diagnosis (that we discussed earlier in the thread). I posted how I saw some medical expert talk about it after Denise's death and he had said that once people are diagnosed with it, they rarely survive more than about 6 months (which was about how long she lasted).

For some reason, based on Prince's emotional reaction when he got the news while in Australia, i got the sense that her death had surprised him - that he hadn't expected it to happen. That while he knew that she was continually battling health issues, he might have assumed that she would once again beat the odds and live for years and years more. And one of the reasons he might have been so emotional is that he didn't really get the chance to say goodbye to her and to tell her just how much she meant to him and continued to mean to him.

I also wondered about the program at Denise's memorial service. We know that Prince was there for most of it and sat up in the balcony. What must he have thought when he read that line about "her not feeling worthy of love?" Would it make him sad and full of regret that maybe in the end she didn't realize how much he had loved her because he always expressed himself through his music instead of telling her these things to her face?

There's nothing worse than losing someone you love and feeling like things were unresolved or left unsaid between you. And if he hadn't seen her in person in years, he might also have felt badly about that as well.

I missed that he went to funeral;

Yes we covered that earlier in this thread (I think the article is posted on it somewhere) but it said that he came to the service and sat in the balcony (he didn't want to draw too much attention) but ended up leaving early as some fans kept pestering him for selfies with them. (I thought that was tacky - going up to Prince at a private funeral service and wanting to take pictures with him - ugh!)

I want one of people who knew them back then like Morris Day to give more info on Prince and Vanity in time - right now is too soon it would be too disrespectful of all the other women that were a part of Prince's life and heart.

wizardtelly said:

beachy said:

Is that Vanity talking about Prince? Can you post a link?

Here beachy and friends/ https://m.facebook.com/ph...;source=43 My eyes are not dry this evening at all. I'm so sad, but yet so very happy because it was true all along. Their story never died.

OMG! I am crying and there's that damn elevator reference again. I just can't.

Vashtix said:

I want one of people who knew them back then like Morris Day to give more info on Prince and Vanity in time - right now is too soon it would be too disrespectful of all the other women that were a part of Prince's life and heart.

Yuuuuup spill the when the time is right of course

wizardtelly said:

beachy said:

Is that Vanity talking about Prince? Can you post a link?

Here beachy and friends/ https://m.facebook.com/ph...;source=43 My eyes are not dry this evening at all. I'm so sad, but yet so very happy because it was true all along. Their story never died.

kellyna said:

Vashtix said:

I missed that he went to funeral;

Yes we covered that earlier in this thread (I think the article is posted on it somewhere) but it said that he came to the service and sat in the balcony (he didn't want to draw too much attention) but ended up leaving early as some fans kept pestering him for selfies with them. (I thought that was tacky - going up to Prince at a private funeral service and wanting to take pictures with him - ugh!)

Thanks I will look it up

cng89 said:

wizardtelly said:

beachy said: Here beachy and friends/ https://m.facebook.com/ph...;source=43 My eyes are not dry this evening at all. I'm so sad, but yet so very happy because it was true all along. Their story never died.

OMG! I am crying and there's that damn elevator reference again. I just can't.

So much in his lyrics that relate to them- that elevator . . . again so not a coincidence; eerrie. . .this whole thing. Symbolism was a big thing it appears btwn them- the discussion about Egypt and the Gorilla in this thread was spot on-meanings only they would know.

beachy said:

Goddess4Real said:

I was watching The Last Dragon on DVD and listening to the commentry last night and according to the director Michael Schultz, Prince advised Vanity to do the film. But I have read elsewhere that Vanity had to audition for the film. Which story is true?

Here is a promo pic for the movie

[Edited 5/26/16 16:58pm]

I don't know but the movie was owned by Motown and Barry Gordy would have decided, and Vanity had her film and record deal with Motown. I had got the impression that the AMA awards 1985 was the first time she had seen Prince since leaving MPLS in Oct 1983. Prince gave her a white python snake backstage after she presented him his award for album. Some weeks or months later she went on Donnie Simpson and said she wasn't seeing him. But sometime before May 86 when her Skin on Skin album came out with the 30s look on the cover, she must have started contact because she thanks him in the credits for "Dreams Come True', unless that is referring to some prior way he helped her??

Hey Beachy, I got a question about the white snake. The guy in the video said that Prince gave Vanity the snake backstage at the American music awards, but he also said that it was the night the Vanity met MC. Hammer. That could not have been 1985 because MC Hammer did not come out until I believe 1989 or 1990. Prince got a big award during the 1990 AMA's so I'm wondering if that is when she got the snake. This would have them still connected as the 1990's began. Just curious.

Vashtix said:

cng89 said:

OMG! I am crying and there's that damn elevator reference again. I just can't.

So much in his lyrics that relate to them- that elevator . . . again so not a coincidence; eerrie. . .this whole thing. Symbolism was a big thing it appears btwn them- the discussion about Egypt and the Gorilla in this thread was spot on-meanings only they would know.

I got chills. All this symbolism stuff has the hair on the back of my neck standing up.

Here again is the article where Vargas Sieloff his said Prince attended Vanity's funeral and looked frail http://www.ocregister.com...argas.html

wizardtelly said:

beachy said:

Is that Vanity talking about Prince? Can you post a link?

Here beachy and friends/ https://m.facebook.com/ph...;source=43 My eyes are not dry this evening at all. I'm so sad, but yet so very happy because it was true all along. Their story never died.

I love her text in bold.

For the rest:

"Some of these calloused, colorful, quests must be delicately washed away as peculiar memories better left unscathed or tarnished by the ink of a ready writer. Immaturity must have its place, as does integrity learn its place well, screaming to secure its place in my head. Those wre the days when your only comfort was a sad love song, for the God I knew not of lived light years away. We butted heads like a hardheaded bullfighter and a roaring black bull, presumptuously scraping at each others brains, wanting to win till toxic smoke arose from our nostrils. I must admit my craziness wallowed in with careful absurdity. I was addicted to every other moment, and when the elevator came to a screeching halt, I don’t recall anyone screaming, “Jump.” When he said it was black, I unreceptively replied, it was white. When I was thoroughly famished he preferred to starve, and when he wanted to stop I wanted to run like the wind. But we were played for such a time as that, and only Heaven can predict all our heart wrenching falls. Two young lions in a “Taming of the Shrew, pretentiously bold, ripping apart that which was better untouched, both losing a battle, both so very lost. I measured his shadow and it was exactly as mine."

cardinal said:

don't even want to wade into the whole denise/mayte/sheila thing, but this is my thought on denise. prince was always other worldly, even when he was here, and i think as he grew in his faith, his love for people became a very human love..,he said he saw beauty in everyone now (later interview). he also said he was open to meeting the "right person" and getting married (rs 2014). i think he cared for denise deeply, as he did also for his wives and her death no doubt affected him greatly. but i am not sure it was in the love story/only woman for him/traditional romantic love paradigm sense, but rather something else, something on a soul level which is where i think he was for maybe the last several months or longer of his life. he also said some poignant things about david bowie after his passing. i think prince was reaching a level of love capacity that was truly transcendent and was expressing that and remembering his past love for denise.

Listen, I almost stroked out trying to get into that Denise, Mayte and Sheila stuff, lol but I can see what you are saying. He was different in his later years for sure but in your opinion do you think he and Denise would have ever had another chance if he took a step away from the music business and just live life? I mean, he lived in Minnesota where no one bothered him. He wasn't famous Prince to them there. Do you think they could have made it work?

30yearfan said:

beachy said:

I don't know but the movie was owned by Motown and Barry Gordy would have decided, and Vanity had her film and record deal with Motown. I had got the impression that the AMA awards 1985 was the first time she had seen Prince since leaving MPLS in Oct 1983. Prince gave her a white python snake backstage after she presented him his award for album. Some weeks or months later she went on Donnie Simpson and said she wasn't seeing him. But sometime before May 86 when her Skin on Skin album came out with the 30s look on the cover, she must have started contact because she thanks him in the credits for "Dreams Come True', unless that is referring to some prior way he helped her??

Hey Beachy, I got a question about the white snake. The guy in the video said that Prince gave Vanity the snake backstage at the American music awards, but he also said that it was the night the Vanity met MC. Hammer. That could not have been 1985 because MC Hammer did not come out until I believe 1989 or 1990. Prince got a big award during the 1990 AMA's so I'm wondering if that is when she got the snake. This would have them still connected as the 1990's began. Just curious.

That would be cool and maybe it is but I think it was in 85. wiki had mc hammer becoming active in 85 and an album out in 86 although he didn't become mainstream til 88. I think Prince gave her the white snake because her album was called Wild Animal (just a guess, kind of a congratulations present maybe), also it symbolized the penis. He was doing the same thing like when he put her orgasm on Come IMO. lol. that night was the night instead of singing on MJ's charity record he went to a restaurant with Jill Jones and had a bustup, with 2 bodyguards arrested. I think he was actually a really nervous scared guy in the face of all the publicity.

Vashtix said:

kellyna said:

I was thinking about this last night. I'm so curious as to how much contact they might have had or not had over the last year of Denise's life. We've guessed that he managed to kind of keep tabs on her and they had mutual friends (Shiela E, Apples etc) which might also have given him some second-hand news about her and her health. I wonder did he follow her on Facebook or other social media. I remember her saying in that 2007 interview that she would love to see him face to face and would leave it up to God to supernaturally make it happen. She mentioned in that interview that they spoke from time to time.

But did he know just how sick she was when she got that last diagnosis (that we discussed earlier in the thread). I posted how I saw some medical expert talk about it after Denise's death and he had said that once people are diagnosed with it, they rarely survive more than about 6 months (which was about how long she lasted).

For some reason, based on Prince's emotional reaction when he got the news while in Australia, i got the sense that her death had surprised him - that he hadn't expected it to happen. That while he knew that she was continually battling health issues, he might have assumed that she would once again beat the odds and live for years and years more. And one of the reasons he might have been so emotional is that he didn't really get the chance to say goodbye to her and to tell her just how much she meant to him and continued to mean to him.

I also wondered about the program at Denise's memorial service. We know that Prince was there for most of it and sat up in the balcony. What must he have thought when he read that line about "her not feeling worthy of love?" Would it make him sad and full of regret that maybe in the end she didn't realize how much he had loved her because he always expressed himself through his music instead of telling her these things to her face?

There's nothing worse than losing someone you love and feeling like things were unresolved or left unsaid between you. And if he hadn't seen her in person in years, he might also have felt badly about that as well.

I missed that he went to funeral;

It would appear more than just going to the funeral, the funeral was delayed so he could finalise the Aust & NZ leg of his tour. I believe the Oakland gigs the day after funeral were only set up a couple of days before. For that timing to be going on, you'd assume he would be in the loop with a wide variety of things to do with Denise.

Question, Y'all! A picture post on V's Facebook has me going crazy. She reference's Prince's song Strange Relationship on a picture of her and Prince. I believe that song came out in 87 so was that a period where she was with Sixx and Prince was trying to get her back? It seems like that song was about her. Beachy, you have all the tea so help me, LOL!

Here's an article that appeared in Oct 1994. think this had anything to do with Vanity asking that guy to marry her?

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cng89 said:

Question, Y'all! A picture post on V's Facebook has me going crazy. She reference's Prince's song Strange Relationship on a picture of her and Prince. I believe that song came out in 87 so was that a period where she was with Sixx and Prince was trying to get her back? It seems like that song was about her. Beachy, you have all the tea so help me, LOL!

hey can you post a link? lol this sounds delicious