Vashtix said:

purplegirl00 said:

This. ^

Again it gives me chills everytime I post it out as it is-this whole thing. When I think of it-chills.

So on the same page.

purplegirl00 said:

I found an awesome fan fic pic that would bring smiles to Vanity fans. After the breakdown I had the other night and out of respect for fellow grieving orgers, I'm not posting it here. If someone wants to start a fan fic down the road, I got a pic!

Hi Purple Girl

I'd like to see it please. Do you want me to org post you?

Vashtix said:

purplegirl00 said:

This. ^

Again it gives me chills everytime I post it out as it is-this whole thing. When I think of it-chills.

It's what he says at the end of one those songs in his tribute, that leaves me NO doubt as to how he felt about her all this time. It's pain, it's raw. It's only something someone who's lost the love of his life does.

cng89 said:

Vashtix said:

It is out there his last shows, his last weeks on earth her death was heavy on him-no question , no public relations stunt, just raw in your face. I do not understand why that is offensive or something to overlook.

Those Mayte and Susannah stans are the only ones who see it as offensive. We have never heard him talk about any of his ladies including his ex-wives like that after the break-ups. There have been rumors that he still even talked to Vanity in recent years but I don't think he has had much contact with many of his former ladies include his ex-wives. Well, maybe Apples, Sheila E. and the 80s ladies but I'm not sure about Susannah.

Exactly!!

purplegirl00 said:

Vashtix said:

Again it gives me chills everytime I post it out as it is-this whole thing. When I think of it-chills.

It's what he says at the end of one those songs in his tribute, that leaves me NO doubt as to how he felt about her all this time. It's pain, it's raw. It's only something someone who's lost the love of his life does.

Hey Purple, where do you guys hear the song from his Mel. concert?

SunnyGirl8 said:

purplegirl00 said:

I found an awesome fan fic pic that would bring smiles to Vanity fans. After the breakdown I had the other night and out of respect for fellow grieving orgers, I'm not posting it here. If someone wants to start a fan fic down the road, I got a pic!

Hi Purple Girl

I'd like to see it please. Do you want me to org post you?

Yes note me with your info.

blue22 said:

cng89 said:

Those Mayte and Susannah stans are the only ones who see it as offensive. We have never heard him talk about any of his ladies including his ex-wives like that after the break-ups. There have been rumors that he still even talked to Vanity in recent years but I don't think he has had much contact with many of his former ladies include his ex-wives. Well, maybe Apples, Sheila E. and the 80s ladies but I'm not sure about Susannah.

Exactly!!

The truth hurts sometimes, LOL!

purplegirl00 said:

Vashtix said:

Again it gives me chills everytime I post it out as it is-this whole thing. When I think of it-chills.

It's what he says at the end of one those songs in his tribute, that leaves me NO doubt as to how he felt about her all this time. It's pain, it's raw. It's only something someone who's lost the love of his life does.

I have not listened yet because it is so errie to me; the raw,crystal clear emotion of it; I could not take it at this time. What does he say?

cng89 said:

Vashtix said:

It is out there his last shows, his last weeks on earth her death was heavy on him-no question , no public relations stunt, just raw in your face. I do not understand why that is offensive or something to overlook.

Those Mayte and Susannah stans are the only ones who see it as offensive. We have never heard him talk about any of his ladies including his ex-wives like that after the break-ups. There have been rumors that he still even talked to Vanity in recent years but I don't think he has had much contact with many of his former ladies include his ex-wives. Well, maybe Apples, Sheila E. and the 80s ladies but I'm not sure about Susannah.

I get the feeling (and I could be wrong) but the press has been caught out over this. That there isn't an embedded story in place that they were prepared for.

Also interestingly, the fact he sang Adore was reported in Australia but if you have a look at the US press (broadsheets, tabloids etc) at most they reported the tribute as Little Red Corvette, Dirty Mind, The Ladder and The Beautiful Ones plus that he spoke about having loved her with the story about Chick (the bodyguard/pool). Many reported a cut down version of this. I'm assuming this was done because he was still on the road and there would have been too many questions if they reported Adore.

So now you have alot of confusion when he's died as people can't quite join the dots. Hence, all the speculation/conspiracy theories etc.

[Edited 5/26/16 15:23pm]

cng89 said:

blue22 said:

Exactly!!

The truth hurts sometimes, LOL!

It shouldn't hurt them; it does not negate the facts in their relationship(s) with Prince. This just validates he cared "deeply" for Vanity/Denise in a way that is beyond words, beyond mortal thought, just beyond. I cannot go on about it; it is heavy/deep

SunnyGirl8 said:

cng89 said:

Those Mayte and Susannah stans are the only ones who see it as offensive. We have never heard him talk about any of his ladies including his ex-wives like that after the break-ups. There have been rumors that he still even talked to Vanity in recent years but I don't think he has had much contact with many of his former ladies include his ex-wives. Well, maybe Apples, Sheila E. and the 80s ladies but I'm not sure about Susannah.

I get the feeling (and I could be wrong) but the press has been caught out over this. That there isn't an embedded story in place that they were prepared for.

Also interestingly, the fact he sang Adore was reported in Australia but if you have a look at the US press (broadsheets, tabloids etc) at most they reported the tribute as Little Red Corvette, Dirty Mind, The Ladder and The Beautiful Ones plus that he spoke about having loved her with the story about Chick (the bodyguard/pool). Many reported a cut down version of this. I'm assuming this was done because he was still on the road and there would have been too many questions if they reported Adore.

So now you have alot of confusion when he's died as people can't quite join the dots. Hence, all the speculation/conspiracy theories etc.

[Edited 5/26/16 15:23pm]

You know, I found that odd about the media. I actually didn't know he performed Adore for her until after he passed. I was like 'huh'? I didn't get all of that.

cng89 said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

I get the feeling (and I could be wrong) but the press has been caught out over this. That there isn't an embedded story in place that they were prepared for.

Also interestingly, the fact he sang Adore was reported in Australia but if you have a look at the US press (broadsheets, tabloids etc) at most they reported the tribute as Little Red Corvette, Dirty Mind, The Ladder and The Beautiful Ones plus that he spoke about having loved her with the story about Chick (the bodyguard/pool). Many reported a cut down version of this. I'm assuming this was done because he was still on the road and there would have been too many questions if they reported Adore.

So now you have alot of confusion when he's died as people can't quite join the dots. Hence, all the speculation/conspiracy theories etc.

[Edited 5/26/16 15:23pm]

You know, I found that odd about the media. I actually didn't know he performed Adore for her until after he passed. I was like 'huh'? I didn't get all of that.

That is beautiful that he dedicated that to her. That is special. Wonder why that was info left out

cng89 said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

I get the feeling (and I could be wrong) but the press has been caught out over this. That there isn't an embedded story in place that they were prepared for.

Also interestingly, the fact he sang Adore was reported in Australia but if you have a look at the US press (broadsheets, tabloids etc) at most they reported the tribute as Little Red Corvette, Dirty Mind, The Ladder and The Beautiful Ones plus that he spoke about having loved her with the story about Chick (the bodyguard/pool). Many reported a cut down version of this. I'm assuming this was done because he was still on the road and there would have been too many questions if they reported Adore.

So now you have alot of confusion when he's died as people can't quite join the dots. Hence, all the speculation/conspiracy theories etc.

[Edited 5/26/16 15:23pm]

You know, I found that odd about the media. I actually didn't know he performed Adore for her until after he passed. I was like 'huh'? I didn't get all of that.

Yeah. I was the same. It was only that I found it on news.com.au's site and it stated it. Then I realised most of the other sites I'd look at in US or UK just left it out. And really what do they do once he's died - say oops we just left out half the story so we thought we better tell you it now?

Vashtix said:

cng89 said:

The truth hurts sometimes, LOL!

It shouldn't hurt them; it does not negate the facts in their relationship(s) with Prince. This just validates he cared "deeply" for Vanity/Denise in a way that is beyond words, beyond mortal thought, just beyond. I cannot go on about it; it is heavy/deep

I get what you are saying. The whole thing with Denise and Prince was so deep and I don't think he or she could tell us about it if they wanted to. People can try and say he was over her or that so and so was his other half but I think we found out just how much she meant to him when she passed. Denise passed and I believe his soul needed to be with hers. Man, they were both 57 and died within weeks of each other. I've heard of soulmates dying weeks of each other before because of the pain. I just believe that their souls needed to be together. I just.... Ugh!

I honestly believe that people dislike the thought of Prince of caring so deeply about Vanity in his life, especially after her passing, because they believe that Mayte is his "tue love." I have seen countless fans of hers bullying women he was attached to in his later years and even prior. I've seen some go as far as to say (via text, of course) that Mayte is the only woman he has ever loved. It is quite strange, really. I think that these people also contribute to her mental health status, and instability, no disrespect. I understand she is hurting, but I don't believe he "loved her more" than any other woman. I know it is not my place but this thread has healed my heart. I do actually believe that her passing troubled him, even if it did not directly cause his death, I believe it weighed heavier than we can even imagine.

In retrospect, this all makes sense. Prince and Vanity have come full-circle. Their lives literally mirrored eachOther, at times more symbolically than literally, but over the last 15 years or so, probably more than ever. He loved her and searched for her in every woman, it is so clear. After she became a born again, I think he was in pain. She married and he responded by doing the same. As mentioned, it's interesting that he overdosed in April on the 21st in 1996. It's interesting that he would pass only weeks after Denise. Her wish of being supernaturally put together again came true. I believe Prince did genuinely care for the women in his life at all times, but she was the one he wanted. I think the only woman his age he would ever want to be with before his passing would be Denise. "She knew she was the finest woman in the world," and really, what he meant was: his world. I believe everyone after her was a space filler to a degree. (Not trivializing their love but yeah) she set a bar, and I think he never could quite keep up with her and that hurt him. It somewhat reminds me of The Notebook. A love never compromised or dead, just reflected on by memory. Maybe they were meant to be in another life? Unsure. I notice some people who like Mayte (I don't dislike her) hate this and this idea. But, for a man who didn't look back, she never left his heart and for him to be open and sing it? "Denise.. Denise.." He realized his dream of continuing the story died when she did. And I do believe they are living their new story somewhere together.

I have consistently seen people buying into this false fantasy of MAYTE and him being in eternal love but I guess I won't comment as it won't be so kind. I think she's indenial. I hope she can heal and I am sorry that she is in deep pain over his death but I think her fans give her these ideas. To me, Prince and his legend was the 80s. Therefore the love of his life then, passing now, that's hard to bare. No matter how much time passes, when you love someone and they are your soul? You don't ever forget.

SunnyGirl8 said:

cng89 said:

You know, I found that odd about the media. I actually didn't know he performed Adore for her until after he passed. I was like 'huh'? I didn't get all of that.

Yeah. I was the same. It was only that I found it on news.com.au's site and it stated it. Then I realised most of the other sites I'd look at in US or UK just left it out. And really what do they do once he's died - say oops we just left out half the story so we thought we better tell you it now?

That was no error in my opinion.

Vashtix said:

cng89 said:

You know, I found that odd about the media. I actually didn't know he performed Adore for her until after he passed. I was like 'huh'? I didn't get all of that.

That is beautiful that he dedicated that to her. That is special. Wonder why that was info left out

I'd assume (again I don't know) but it's a well known song of his in the US. There would be alot of questions from the press about her role in his life if he was dedicating that sort of song that had been written 30 years before. She has quite a profile of her own too. And remember he's grieving and still trying to be a showman/professional. I just think it would be too much pressure.

wizardtelly said:

I honestly believe that people dislike the thought of Prince of caring so deeply about Vanity in his life, especially after her passing, because they believe that Mayte is his "tue love." I have seen countless fans of hers bullying women he was attached to in his later years and even prior. I've seen some go as far as to say (via text, of course) that Mayte is the only woman he has ever loved. It is quite strange, really. I think that these people also contribute to her mental health status, and instability, no disrespect. I understand she is hurting, but I don't believe he "loved her more" than any other woman. I know it is not my place but this thread has healed my heart. I do actually believe that her passing troubled him, even if it did not directly cause his death, I believe it weighed heavier than we can even imagine. In retrospect, this all makes sense. Prince and Vanity have come full-circle. Their lives literally mirrored eachOther, at times more symbolically than literally, but over the last 15 years or so, probably more than ever. He loved her and searched for her in every woman, it is so clear. After she became a born again, I think he was in pain. She married and he responded by doing the same. As mentioned, it's interesting that he overdosed in April on the 21st in 1996. It's interesting that he would pass only weeks after Denise. Her wish of being supernaturally put together again came true. I believe Prince did genuinely care for the women in his life at all times, but she was the one he wanted. I think the only woman his age he would ever want to be with before his passing would be Denise. "She knew she was the finest woman in the world," and really, what he meant was: his world. I believe everyone after her was a space filler to a degree. (Not trivializing their love but yeah) she set a bar, and I think he never could quite keep up with her and that hurt him. It somewhat reminds me of The Notebook. A love never compromised or dead, just reflected on by memory. Maybe they were meant to be in another life? Unsure. I notice some people who like Mayte (I don't dislike her) hate this and this idea. But, for a man who didn't look back, she never left his heart and for him to be open and sing it? "Denise.. Denise.." He realized his dream of continuing the story died when she did. And I do believe they are living their new story somewhere together. I have consistently seen people buying into this false fantasy of MAYTE and him being in eternal love but I guess I won't comment as it won't be so kind. I think she's indenial. I hope she can heal and I am sorry that she is in deep pain over his death but I think her fans give her these ideas. To me, Prince and his legend was the 80s. Therefore the love of his life then, passing now, that's hard to bare. No matter how much time passes, when you love someone and they are your soul? You don't ever forget.

What you wrote is so on point

I too refrain from responding or giving opinion about Mayte. It is way too early and people are owed respect in mourning but I find you are correct. It has blown their theory of Prince and Mayte out of the water.

wizardtelly said:

I honestly believe that people dislike the thought of Prince of caring so deeply about Vanity in his life, especially after her passing, because they believe that Mayte is his "tue love." I have seen countless fans of hers bullying women he was attached to in his later years and even prior. I've seen some go as far as to say (via text, of course) that Mayte is the only woman he has ever loved. It is quite strange, really. I think that these people also contribute to her mental health status, and instability, no disrespect. I understand she is hurting, but I don't believe he "loved her more" than any other woman. I know it is not my place but this thread has healed my heart. I do actually believe that her passing troubled him, even if it did not directly cause his death, I believe it weighed heavier than we can even imagine. In retrospect, this all makes sense. Prince and Vanity have come full-circle. Their lives literally mirrored eachOther, at times more symbolically than literally, but over the last 15 years or so, probably more than ever. He loved her and searched for her in every woman, it is so clear. After she became a born again, I think he was in pain. She married and he responded by doing the same. As mentioned, it's interesting that he overdosed in April on the 21st in 1996. It's interesting that he would pass only weeks after Denise. Her wish of being supernaturally put together again came true. I believe Prince did genuinely care for the women in his life at all times, but she was the one he wanted. I think the only woman his age he would ever want to be with before his passing would be Denise. "She knew she was the finest woman in the world," and really, what he meant was: his world. I believe everyone after her was a space filler to a degree. (Not trivializing their love but yeah) she set a bar, and I think he never could quite keep up with her and that hurt him. It somewhat reminds me of The Notebook. A love never compromised or dead, just reflected on by memory. Maybe they were meant to be in another life? Unsure. I notice some people who like Mayte (I don't dislike her) hate this and this idea. But, for a man who didn't look back, she never left his heart and for him to be open and sing it? "Denise.. Denise.." He realized his dream of continuing the story died when she did. And I do believe they are living their new story somewhere together. I have consistently seen people buying into this false fantasy of MAYTE and him being in eternal love but I guess I won't comment as it won't be so kind. I think she's indenial. I hope she can heal and I am sorry that she is in deep pain over his death but I think her fans give her these ideas. To me, Prince and his legend was the 80s. Therefore the love of his life then, passing now, that's hard to bare. No matter how much time passes, when you love someone and they are your soul? You don't ever forget.

I don't really know much about Mayte or her fans. But I think what's come clear to me through this thread is that anyone who came in between Prince and Vanity/Denise didn't stand much of a chance. She was clear about her love for him and you only need to look at the lyrics of Adore to see how he felt "Until the end of time I'll be there for you, you own my heart and mind I truly adore you. If God one day struck me blind, your beauty I'd still see. Loves too weak to define just what you mean to me".

Really never you're never going to be able to compete with that!

wizardtelly said:

I honestly believe that people dislike the thought of Prince of caring so deeply about Vanity in his life, especially after her passing, because they believe that Mayte is his "tue love." I have seen countless fans of hers bullying women he was attached to in his later years and even prior. I've seen some go as far as to say (via text, of course) that Mayte is the only woman he has ever loved. It is quite strange, really. I think that these people also contribute to her mental health status, and instability, no disrespect. I understand she is hurting, but I don't believe he "loved her more" than any other woman. I know it is not my place but this thread has healed my heart. I do actually believe that her passing troubled him, even if it did not directly cause his death, I believe it weighed heavier than we can even imagine. In retrospect, this all makes sense. Prince and Vanity have come full-circle. Their lives literally mirrored eachOther, at times more symbolically than literally, but over the last 15 years or so, probably more than ever. He loved her and searched for her in every woman, it is so clear. After she became a born again, I think he was in pain. She married and he responded by doing the same. As mentioned, it's interesting that he overdosed in April on the 21st in 1996. It's interesting that he would pass only weeks after Denise. Her wish of being supernaturally put together again came true. I believe Prince did genuinely care for the women in his life at all times, but she was the one he wanted. I think the only woman his age he would ever want to be with before his passing would be Denise. "She knew she was the finest woman in the world," and really, what he meant was: his world. I believe everyone after her was a space filler to a degree. (Not trivializing their love but yeah) she set a bar, and I think he never could quite keep up with her and that hurt him. It somewhat reminds me of The Notebook. A love never compromised or dead, just reflected on by memory. Maybe they were meant to be in another life? Unsure. I notice some people who like Mayte (I don't dislike her) hate this and this idea. But, for a man who didn't look back, she never left his heart and for him to be open and sing it? "Denise.. Denise.." He realized his dream of continuing the story died when she did. And I do believe they are living their new story somewhere together. I have consistently seen people buying into this false fantasy of MAYTE and him being in eternal love but I guess I won't comment as it won't be so kind. I think she's indenial. I hope she can heal and I am sorry that she is in deep pain over his death but I think her fans give her these ideas. To me, Prince and his legend was the 80s. Therefore the love of his life then, passing now, that's hard to bare. No matter how much time passes, when you love someone and they are your soul? You don't ever forget.

What you wrote is so on point

I too refrain from responding or giving opinion about Mayte. It is way too early and people are owed respect in mourning but I find you are correct. However Prince dying and what he performed in tribute to Denise placed it all out there for anyone to see - no need for interpretation.

wizardtelly said:

I honestly believe that people dislike the thought of Prince of caring so deeply about Vanity in his life, especially after her passing, because they believe that Mayte is his "tue love." I have seen countless fans of hers bullying women he was attached to in his later years and even prior. I've seen some go as far as to say (via text, of course) that Mayte is the only woman he has ever loved. It is quite strange, really. I think that these people also contribute to her mental health status, and instability, no disrespect. I understand she is hurting, but I don't believe he "loved her more" than any other woman. I know it is not my place but this thread has healed my heart. I do actually believe that her passing troubled him, even if it did not directly cause his death, I believe it weighed heavier than we can even imagine. In retrospect, this all makes sense. Prince and Vanity have come full-circle. Their lives literally mirrored eachOther, at times more symbolically than literally, but over the last 15 years or so, probably more than ever. He loved her and searched for her in every woman, it is so clear. After she became a born again, I think he was in pain. She married and he responded by doing the same. As mentioned, it's interesting that he overdosed in April on the 21st in 1996. It's interesting that he would pass only weeks after Denise. Her wish of being supernaturally put together again came true. I believe Prince did genuinely care for the women in his life at all times, but she was the one he wanted. I think the only woman his age he would ever want to be with before his passing would be Denise. "She knew she was the finest woman in the world," and really, what he meant was: his world. I believe everyone after her was a space filler to a degree. (Not trivializing their love but yeah) she set a bar, and I think he never could quite keep up with her and that hurt him. It somewhat reminds me of The Notebook. A love never compromised or dead, just reflected on by memory. Maybe they were meant to be in another life? Unsure. I notice some people who like Mayte (I don't dislike her) hate this and this idea. But, for a man who didn't look back, she never left his heart and for him to be open and sing it? "Denise.. Denise.." He realized his dream of continuing the story died when she did. And I do believe they are living their new story somewhere together. I have consistently seen people buying into this false fantasy of MAYTE and him being in eternal love but I guess I won't comment as it won't be so kind. I think she's indenial. I hope she can heal and I am sorry that she is in deep pain over his death but I think her fans give her these ideas. To me, Prince and his legend was the 80s. Therefore the love of his life then, passing now, that's hard to bare. No matter how much time passes, when you love someone and they are your soul? You don't ever forget.

Those Mayte stans work my nerves because they are so cruel. Yes, I believed Prince loved her and shared something special with her. I mean, she gave birth to his only child so there was something there but I don't think it was something that was meant to last forever. Not to be mean but he pretty much exiled that lady in Marbella while he developed a relationship with a Denise CLONE! He found another Denise filler, in my opinion. Manuela looked so much like V that I had to double take a few times. Mayte even admitted that she didn't want a divorce in that embarrassing video she posted of herself getting a Prince tribute tattoo but honey, he didn't divorce you! He had that marriage annulled. That marriage according that the definition of annul never even happened. That poor woman is going through some mess and she, like her stans are in major denial. I feel sorry her and if I'm not mistaken, she hasn't talked to Prince in years. Hell, she couldn't even get free tickets to a concert of his!

I was watching The Last Dragon on DVD and listening to the commentry last night and according to the director Michael Schultz, Prince advised Vanity to do the film. But I have read elsewhere that Vanity had to audition for the film. Which story is true?

Here is a promo pic for the movie

[Edited 5/26/16 16:58pm]

beachy said:

Just looked at the lyrics to Adore again, there's a line about how he called her at 3am after the AMAs lol. This is recorded Nov 1986. Vanity started dating Nikki in May. Maybe he wrote this to try to woo her back. Perhaps if he was trying to get her back this is why Susannah finally left in December. I think Susan Rogers misinterpreted the situation thinking that Adore and Wally were written for Susannah. They were probably written for Vanity who was dating Nikki Sixx at the time and that is why in Wally he says it was 'no use.'

"Adore"

Until the end of time
I'll be there 4 U
U own my heart and mind
I truly adore U
If God one day struck me blind
Your beauty I'd still see
Love is 2 weak 2 define
Just what U mean 2 me

From the first moment I saw U
Ooh, I knew U were the 1
That night I had 2 call U
I was rappin' till the sun came up
Tellin' U just how fine U look
In a word, U were sex
All of my cool attitude U took
My body was next
U made love 2 me
Like U where afraid
Was U afraid of me?
Was I the first?
Was I your every fantasy?
That's why

Until the end of time
I'll be there 4 U
U own my heart and mind
I truly adore U
If God one day struck me blind
Your beauty I'd still see
Love is 2 weak 2 define
Just what U mean 2 me

When we be makin' love
I only hear the sounds
Heavenly angels cryin' up above
Tears of joy pourin' down on us
They know we need each other
They know U are my fix
I know, that U know that I ain't cheatin' baby
They know this is serious
I ain't fuckin' just 4 kicks, no
This condition I got is crucial, crucial baby
U could say that I'm a terminal case
U could burn up my clothes
Smash up my ride, well maybe not the ride
But I got 2 have your face
All up in the place

I'd like 2 think that I'm a man of exquisite taste
A hundred percent Italian silk imported Egyptian lace
But nothin' baby, I said nothin' baby could compare
2 your lovely face
Do U know what I'm sayin' 2 ya this evening
I'm just tryin' 2 say
I'm just tryin' 2 say
That until, until the end of time
I'll be there 4 U
I'll be there 4 U
On my heart, on my mind, (truly adore U)
I truly adore U (darlin')
U don't know what you're mean 2 me
Baby, (until the end of time)
Baby, (I'll be there 4 U)
Baby, (U own my heart and mind)
'Til the end of time I'll be there 4 U
(I truly adore U)
Adore U (adore U)

Can I talk 2 U? {{chorus repeated in background}}
Tell U what U mean 2 me
Every time U wander
I'll be your eyes so U can see
I wanna show U things
That I show no other, I wanna be
More than, more than your mother
More than your brother
I wanna be (like no) like no other
If U need me, I'll never leave
I know, that U know, without U there is no me
There is no me
Without U there is no sea
There is no shore
Love is 2 weak 2 define how much I adore
U, child
U, child
The last words U hear
The last words U hear

(until the end of time)
I'll be there for you, baby
(until the end of time)

Be with me darlin' til the end of time (until the end of time)
I'll give U my heart
I'll give U my mind
I'll give U my body (until the end of time)
I'll give U my time (until the end of time)
(until the end of time)

4 all time I am with U
U are with me
(until the end of time)
U are with me, U are with me

[Edited 5/25/16 21:19pm]

[Edited 5/25/16 21:27pm]

Love this song and if it doesn't speak of deep love, I don't know what does. To me it's obvious it's about Vanity /Denise because it talks about when they first met and how enamored Prince was right from the start - just beautiful!

Goddess........ they say only 10% of what is written about people is actually true..like the movie Purple Rain, its fiction based on some truth..and if you HEARD the guy from the movie say it, then i'd believe him over what you've read AND she could have screen tested, been offered it and asked Prince his advice, and he encouraged her...i think he still rooted for her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Edited 5/26/16 17:22pm]

cng89 said:

SPYZFAN1 said:

"Prince needed to portray a youthful image to the world in order to get young people to listen to his music"......"Prince needed youth around him to stay relevant artistically".....Well said and I agree with a lot of this. He said he didn't want to work with anymore "older" people..And I think Andy Allo influenced him the same way Betty Davis influenced Miles.(clothes, natural hair, music)......."he couldn't be around her preaching all the time and create good music"...Yeah...I think even if they got back together (in later years..2000 foward) it might have affected his music...good or bad?..Who knows?......."he probably would have been more compatibile with Shelia E in the last years, don't you think?"....Yup. I always thought that they would have made a great couple. But I think he fell out of love (romance wise) with her years ago.

Prince and S.E. come across as brother and sister to me, always have. I don't know if he could have made the kind of music he wanted with S.E. or Denise around because S.E. is in his age bracket and of course Denise was deeply religious. If he wanted to feel young neither one would have worked out for him, I guess. Love S.E. though, she is one of the greatest of all time!

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Yeah I agree - I think they were great partners with the music and they obviously got along very well, but it just never seemed to be like they had alot of chemistry between them. And when Sheila mentioned after his death that he had once proposed to her, I wasn't sure I believed it. The way she said it happened that he just turned during a show and mouthed it to her made it seem like it was a sweet moment between friends (not necessarily a real proposal). Plus as others have noted, it seems like almost all the women who were involved with Prince thought they were engaged to him at some point. ha!

wizardtelly said:

I honestly believe that people dislike the thought of Prince of caring so deeply about Vanity in his life, especially after her passing, because they believe that Mayte is his "tue love." I have seen countless fans of hers bullying women he was attached to in his later years and even prior. I've seen some go as far as to say (via text, of course) that Mayte is the only woman he has ever loved. It is quite strange, really. I think that these people also contribute to her mental health status, and instability, no disrespect. I understand she is hurting, but I don't believe he "loved her more" than any other woman. I know it is not my place but this thread has healed my heart. I do actually believe that her passing troubled him, even if it did not directly cause his death, I believe it weighed heavier than we can even imagine. In retrospect, this all makes sense. Prince and Vanity have come full-circle. Their lives literally mirrored eachOther, at times more symbolically than literally, but over the last 15 years or so, probably more than ever. He loved her and searched for her in every woman, it is so clear. After she became a born again, I think he was in pain. She married and he responded by doing the same. As mentioned, it's interesting that he overdosed in April on the 21st in 1996. It's interesting that he would pass only weeks after Denise. Her wish of being supernaturally put together again came true. I believe Prince did genuinely care for the women in his life at all times, but she was the one he wanted. I think the only woman his age he would ever want to be with before his passing would be Denise. "She knew she was the finest woman in the world," and really, what he meant was: his world. I believe everyone after her was a space filler to a degree. (Not trivializing their love but yeah) she set a bar, and I think he never could quite keep up with her and that hurt him. It somewhat reminds me of The Notebook. A love never compromised or dead, just reflected on by memory. Maybe they were meant to be in another life? Unsure. I notice some people who like Mayte (I don't dislike her) hate this and this idea. But, for a man who didn't look back, she never left his heart and for him to be open and sing it? "Denise.. Denise.." He realized his dream of continuing the story died when she did. And I do believe they are living their new story somewhere together. I have consistently seen people buying into this false fantasy of MAYTE and him being in eternal love but I guess I won't comment as it won't be so kind. I think she's indenial. I hope she can heal and I am sorry that she is in deep pain over his death but I think her fans give her these ideas. To me, Prince and his legend was the 80s. Therefore the love of his life then, passing now, that's hard to bare. No matter how much time passes, when you love someone and they are your soul? You don't ever forget.

Their lives were reflections of one another and I do believe in the twin souls who cannot do wothout the other; once Denise passed to other dimension his soul was so bruised it made his transition easier because she was their cheering him on (my opinion) to join her so they could finally be together

I just started crying. I can't seem to copy and paste it but it's from her Facebook/book. "I measured his shadow, and it was exactly mine"

purplegirl00 said:

cng89 said:

For someone who says he doesn't look back at the past, his actions sure said otherwise. I wish somewhere along the way Prince could have really thought about just living life. I know music was him, he was music but I also look at these legend both past and present and see that they are not looking to be relevent anymore. They have already put in their work and cemented their legacy so they don't give a damn about creating anymore. He was PRINCE! He didn't need to fight for the spotlight or compete with the young ones. I wish he would have slowed down, tried to have kids or adopted some and became a husband to a mature woman, my pick would have been Denise, LOL. He earned the right to enjoy his legacy and that wouldn't have meant he was old either. I love him but he looked ridiculous with those young girls and even creepy to me. I shudder when I think about him saying that he had crush on Andy Allo, lawd.

YES! Maybe to some degree, this is what he's talking about in Revelation.

This is exactly what I said a few pages back - that despite his claims that he doesn't like to look back, his heart always reckoned back to that time when he first met Denise and was involved with her - I think it likely represented one of the best periods of his life. And I think he continued to write songs about it, about her, about them for the rest of his life!!

Goddess4Real said:

I was watching The Last Dragon on DVD and listening to the commentry last night and according to the director Michael Schultz, Prince advised Vanity to do the film. But I have read elsewhere that Vanity had to audition for the film. Which story is true?

Here is a promo pic for the movie

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I don't know but the movie was owned by Motown and Barry Gordy would have decided, and Vanity had her film and record deal with Motown. I had got the impression that the AMA awards 1985 was the first time she had seen Prince since leaving MPLS in Oct 1983. Prince gave her a white python snake backstage after she presented him his award for album. Some weeks or months later she went on Donnie Simpson and said she wasn't seeing him. But sometime before May 86 when her Skin on Skin album came out with the 30s look on the cover, she must have started contact because she thanks him in the credits for "Dreams Come True', unless that is referring to some prior way he helped her??

wizardtelly said:

I just started crying. I can't seem to copy and paste it but it's from her Facebook/book. "I measured his shadow, and it was exactly mine"

Wow ! I can just see those 2 beauties measuring their shadows ! Thanks for sharing that detail;

"Exactly mine"-He was exactly hers to the end.