paisleypunk said:

Vashtix said:

It is a universal mourning and for me it is felt deeply and yes even grown,GROWN men balling like babes over Prince passing on; for me it is a very spiritual

I don't buy 99.99 of these peeps, but this woman seemed legit and resonated with a lot of what I was feeling...

https://youtu.be/3REY918Ir-s

Thanks for sharing

Vashtix said:

paisleypunk said:

I don't buy 99.99 of these peeps, but this woman seemed legit and resonated with a lot of what I was feeling...

https://youtu.be/3REY918Ir-s

Thanks for sharing

My Pleasure, Vashtix...it lifted some of my sorrow missing him...no more hip pain, no more grieving the loss of his son or Denise...xx

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wizardtelly said:

It is hard to imagine that after that amount of time has passed, she was always on his mind somewhere in there. I cannot help but to hunk of what it would have been like for them to be married, or together. I think that Prince felt as though he could help save her from herself, but he couldn't because he could not save himself from spiritual binds and lust. Searching for life, they found love in eachOther, young loves joy perhaps. I feel settled knowing that it was actually a close passing because even if it did not effect him to his point of death, it effected a closed journal buried deep in the vault of his soul in a corner somewhere that he never quite got to open happily. At least not publicly. Maybe it was never too deep, but it was something. Does anyone else also think that once she started to come into her own destiny, he behaved childlike (through the music and press we mentioned)? Although they were always equals, they literally always mirrored eachOther. I think it took him a while to mature, definitely, but there was that time during Come where it was like he was trying to put his fist in the mirror. I think that was a growing stage for him. Back on the subject of Orgasm/Poem, he was showing his power, and authority that he thought had to trouble her all while helping. It's somewhat sadistic, mentally I think that was painful for her(tormented by lust and human body) but he found it fun, sexual, re-assuring, collaborative, and letting her know that she was "his" still. But honestly, Vanity was so lovely and outgoing in interviews that I don't understand why people only always wanted to talk about Prince with her, lol. She could hold her own.

Yes to your question I agree. To me, the Come album was part seduction and part taunting/power play.

When she got married there were songs full of hate and meanness when you'd thought, being as he claimed in love with Mayte, that there would be beautful love songs. He seemed to be throwing a tantrum, then disavowing her.I think he tried to prove to himself he could make Mayte take her place but that dream soured and failed. He tried again with a woman that seemed stable and supportive and that failed. I don't think his heart was in any of the relationships after her. They seemed staged. Then he writes Revelation. He seemed to come full circle. Of course its just my view and means nothing.

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beachy said:

wizardtelly said:

It is hard to imagine that after that amount of time has passed, she was always on his mind somewhere in there. I cannot help but to hunk of what it would have been like for them to be married, or together. I think that Prince felt as though he could help save her from herself, but he couldn't because he could not save himself from spiritual binds and lust. Searching for life, they found love in eachOther, young loves joy perhaps. I feel settled knowing that it was actually a close passing because even if it did not effect him to his point of death, it effected a closed journal buried deep in the vault of his soul in a corner somewhere that he never quite got to open happily. At least not publicly. Maybe it was never too deep, but it was something. Does anyone else also think that once she started to come into her own destiny, he behaved childlike (through the music and press we mentioned)? Although they were always equals, they literally always mirrored eachOther. I think it took him a while to mature, definitely, but there was that time during Come where it was like he was trying to put his fist in the mirror. I think that was a growing stage for him. Back on the subject of Orgasm/Poem, he was showing his power, and authority that he thought had to trouble her all while helping. It's somewhat sadistic, mentally I think that was painful for her(tormented by lust and human body) but he found it fun, sexual, re-assuring, collaborative, and letting her know that she was "his" still. But honestly, Vanity was so lovely and outgoing in interviews that I don't understand why people only always wanted to talk about Prince with her, lol. She could hold her own.

Yes to your question I agree. To me, the Come album was part seduction and part taunting/power play.

When she got married there were songs full of hate and meanness when you'd thought, being as he claimed in love with Mayte, that there would be beautful love songs. He seemed to be throwing a tantrum, then disavowing her.I think he tried to prove to himself he could make Mayte take her place but that dream soured and failed. He tried again with a woman that seemed stable and supportive and that failed. I don't think his heart was in any of the relationships after her. They seemed staged. Then he writes Revelation. He seemed to come full circle. Of course its just my view and means nothing.

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What struck me is like you said, a new marriage should be over the moon with happiness...but didn't he OD on wine and aspirin shortly after marrying...., and as someone mentioned, instead of turning to his new bride, he went inward and to numb himself with wine/drugs......those two were always reacting to each other whether they were even aware of it or not...always under each others skin...Denise sadly was a reactive mess, from one addiction of hardcore drugs to bury past trauma to near death to flipping out to become a religious fanatic (a different addiction/overcompensation/reaction), it was always hyper-extreme reaction-formations with her...then to marry that football player-cum-murderer after knowing him 2 months? She was acting out all over the place and needed major therapy...too bad neither was able to get some help processing their childhoods...it may have turned out so much better...people don't realize how childhood trauma not only shapes/changes who you are but changes your brain/biology..and can affect your entire life..

paisleypunk said:

beachy said:

Yes to your question I agree. To me, the Come album was part seduction and part taunting/power play.

When she got married there were songs full of hate and meanness when you'd thought, being as he claimed in love with Mayte, that there would be beautful love songs. He seemed to be throwing a tantrum, then disavowing her.I think he tried to prove to himself he could make Mayte take her place but that dream soured and failed. He tried again with a woman that seemed stable and supportive and that failed. I don't think his heart was in any of the relationships after her. They seemed staged. Then he writes Revelation. He seemed to come full circle. Of course its just my view and means nothing.

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What struck me is like you said, a new marriage should be over the moon with happiness...but didn't he OD on wine and aspirin shortly after marrying...., and as someone mentioned, instead of turning to his new bride, he went inward and to numb himself with wine/drugs......those two were always reacting to each other whether they were even aware of it or not...always under each others skin...Denise sadly was a reactive mess, from one addiction of hardcore drugs to bury past trauma to near death to flipping out to become a religious fanatic (a different addiction/overcompensation/reaction), it was always hyper-extreme reaction-formations with her...then to marry that football player-cum-murderer after knowing him 2 months? She was acting out all over the place and needed major therapy...too bad neither was able to get some help processing their childhoods...it may have turned out so much better...people don't realize how childhood trauma not only shapes/changes who you are but changes your brain/biology..and can affect your entire life..

So true, so true on the bolded above.

the traumatic childs of Denise/Vanity and Prince resulted in the creativity I loved. I am sorry for their childhoods but that was what was in them that made them the iconic people they were.

The more I keep looking into his lyrics and the things written on this thread, it appears that he nearly uses his songwriting like other people would use a daily journal.

beachy said:

paisleypunk said:

beachy said:

This might sound weird but i think they knew they couldn't be together in this world. That window had closed. Now he was thinking on a different plane, beyond time. or above it. And he's still being the nurturing father here.

this might sound even stranger but somehow their deaths and his avatar with the third eye open gave me an epiphany about the spirit leaving the body, and shedding the body, going to another place. perhaps returning.

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Prince definitely had innate and maybe even some psychic awareness about energy, chakras, etc...when he played he knew how the music could affect people on all levels...I saw a quote somewhere where he mentioned tones opening up chakras, etc...the dude was definitely connected to spirit...I think that's why his passing has made so many of us bawl like babies, lol..even grown men...bc his music and soul affected us , you could sense he was pouring his own soul into each chord for all of us to experience...he was special

[Edited 5/24/16 22:44pm]

I read somewhere that he said he was aiming for transcendence with his music. He certainly achieved it.

Vashtix said:

the traumatic childs of Denise/Vanity and Prince resulted in the creativity I loved. I am sorry for their childhoods but that was what was in them that made them the iconic people they were.

I agree. Who they were as individuals and all the experiences that shaped them, and their combination resulted in an amazing soundtrack that will resonate for a very long time.

[Edited 5/25/16 5:55am]

paisleypunk said:

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said:

Yes to your question I agree. To me, the Come album was part seduction and part taunting/power play.

When she got married there were songs full of hate and meanness when you'd thought, being as he claimed in love with Mayte, that there would be beautful love songs. He seemed to be throwing a tantrum, then disavowing her.I think he tried to prove to himself he could make Mayte take her place but that dream soured and failed. He tried again with a woman that seemed stable and supportive and that failed. I don't think his heart was in any of the relationships after her. They seemed staged. Then he writes Revelation. He seemed to come full circle. Of course its just my view and means nothing.

[Edited 5/24/16 23:39pm]

Beachy,I heard Revelation yesterday and last night. The song captured me and literally put me under some sort of spell. I know it sounds crazy. Then when I heard the clip of the Mebourne tribute with How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore with him crying out for her at the end, it was too much. Revelation is jammed packed with such emotion. It is really, in my opinion one of, if not, the BEST of his work. It does tie up the package very nicely. It is a glimpse into where his mind was recently. . I agree that he was not fully vested in those marriages. I have no doubt he loved and cared for both Mayte and Mani, but he couldn't get Denise out of his system and that limited how much of himself he could give them. He admits it in one of those last concerts in Atlanta. He is sings I Love You But I Don't Trust You Anymore and he says, "I guess I got her out of my system". Then he goes into Little Red Corvette, he says, "maybe not". So he was revealing more himself right there. Again, no speculation, he comes right out and says it. [Edited 5/25/16 6:01am]

wow. I'm really glad you are listening to these shows because its still very hard for me. but i'm going to go listen to this bit. I can't get rid of Revelation it goes too deep. like he says deep as the ocean

Does anyone know about this issue with Devin Devasquez. She's saying they dated in 1985 during the Purple Rain tour. To me she is the closest clone of Vanity out of all of them, especially in the 80's.

You can see in the article he is still trying to get back the whole Vanity (she says Appolonia, probably because of PR film). But he's giving her clothes to wear to look like him, just like he did with Vanity.

He was living with Susannah at the time.

http://www.people.com/article/prince-playboy-devin-devasquez-love

Joni Mitchells health issues were weighing heavy on him too

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said:

Yes to your question I agree. To me, the Come album was part seduction and part taunting/power play.

When she got married there were songs full of hate and meanness when you'd thought, being as he claimed in love with Mayte, that there would be beautful love songs. He seemed to be throwing a tantrum, then disavowing her.I think he tried to prove to himself he could make Mayte take her place but that dream soured and failed. He tried again with a woman that seemed stable and supportive and that failed. I don't think his heart was in any of the relationships after her. They seemed staged. Then he writes Revelation. He seemed to come full circle. Of course its just my view and means nothing.

[Edited 5/24/16 23:39pm]

Beachy,I heard Revelation yesterday and last night. The song captured me and literally put me under some sort of spell. I know it sounds crazy. Then when I heard the clip of the Mebourne tribute with How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore with him crying out for her at the end, it was too much. Revelation is jammed packed with such emotion. It is really, in my opinion one of, if not, the BEST of his work. It does tie up the package very nicely. It is a glimpse into where his mind was recently. . I agree that he was not fully vested in those marriages. I have no doubt he loved and cared for both Mayte and Mani, but he couldn't get Denise out of his system and that limited how much of himself he could give them. He admits it in one of those last concerts in Atlanta. He is sings I Love You But I Don't Trust You Anymore and he says, "I guess I got her out of my system". Then he goes into Little Red Corvette, he says, "maybe not". So he was revealing more himself right there. Again, no speculation, he comes right out and says it. [Edited 5/25/16 6:01am]

Wow. The Atlanta concerts must have been quite something. Someone posted on youtube that he got really emotional and walked off stage after he sang 'A Case of You' as well.

The lyrics for that are:

I am a lonely painter, I live in a box of paints

I used 2 be frightened by the devil and drawn 2 those who weren't afraid

Remember when u told me that love was touching souls?

Well, surely you touched mine

Part of you pours out of me from time 2 time in these lines

You're in my blood like holy wine...you're so bitter and so sweet

I could drink a case of you darling and still be on my feet...still be on my feet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfFXM6I8Sg4

[Edited 5/25/16 8:11am]

[Edited 5/25/16 8:13am]

[Edited 5/25/16 8:39am]

blue22 said:

Does anyone know about this issue with Devin Devasquez. She's saying they dated in 1985 during the Purple Rain tour. To me she is the closest clone of Vanity out of all of them, especially in the 80's.

You can see in the article he is still trying to get back the whole Vanity (she says Appolonia, probably because of PR film). But he's giving her clothes to wear to look like him, just like he did with Vanity.

He was living with Susannah at the time.

http://www.people.com/article/prince-playboy-devin-devasquez-love

She does have shades of both Apples and Vanity but I think Mani looked the closest. I saw in another forum where someone did a montage of pictures of both and the resemblance is truly striking. Prince was not shallow though and only trying to replace her in image, but I think in personality too. Like I said before, Denise/Vanity could rock the bad girl thing and innocent equally well. She was a tough cookie and seemed not to take any lip from anyone but then at the same time, there was something about her personality drew you in. Really, she was stunning in even the way she talked- maybe there was an accent? I don't know but in some of those interviews with Joan Rivers and others, there was something about the way she talked too- aside from the flirting. Then on the other hand, the girl got FIRED up in her preaching and used phrases that I use everyday like- "For Real", "Check this out", and "hello?" to get her point across.

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I don't know anything about Mayte or Mani as far as personality goes so I can't say anything about them.

beachy said:

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said: Beachy,I heard Revelation yesterday and last night. The song captured me and literally put me under some sort of spell. I know it sounds crazy. Then when I heard the clip of the Mebourne tribute with How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore with him crying out for her at the end, it was too much. Revelation is jammed packed with such emotion. It is really, in my opinion one of, if not, the BEST of his work. It does tie up the package very nicely. It is a glimpse into where his mind was recently. . I agree that he was not fully vested in those marriages. I have no doubt he loved and cared for both Mayte and Mani, but he couldn't get Denise out of his system and that limited how much of himself he could give them. He admits it in one of those last concerts in Atlanta. He is sings I Love You But I Don't Trust You Anymore and he says, "I guess I got her out of my system". Then he goes into Little Red Corvette, he says, "maybe not". So he was revealing more himself right there. Again, no speculation, he comes right out and says it. [Edited 5/25/16 6:01am]

wow. I'm really glad you are listening to these shows because its still very hard for me. but i'm going to go listen to this bit. I can't get rid of Revelation it goes too deep. like he says deep as the ocean

I had heard some of the Melbourne tribute earlier this month, but it did not have that end part to "How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore" so when I heard it last night, I broke down. Having had listened to Revelation just before and seeing what that song was about, set me up for feeling like I got punched, feeling his sorrow. It is truly a DEEP ballad.

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It is incredibly hard to listen to those shows and hearing/feeling him.

[Edited 5/25/16 8:02am]

OldFriends4Sale said:

Joni Mitchells health issues were weighing heavy on him too

I knew he admired her and his music was influenced by hers. I didn't know she was going through health issues.

paisleypunk said:

wizardtelly said:

purplegirl00 said: Can anyone please send me an audio of the tribute please? X

Seconded, please...though I think I need to prepare myself first...xx

Hope you guys were able to get them. Sorry, I did not respond last night. First, I'm on the East coast and it was waay late (or early morning however you want to call it), and then I was just soooo down after listening to him.

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If you got them and haven't listened yet, just make sure you're in a good state of mind to listen. I got knocked down a couple levels in my grieving just with what he was saying at the end of that song. It hurts.

SunnyGirl8 said:

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said: Beachy,I heard Revelation yesterday and last night. The song captured me and literally put me under some sort of spell. I know it sounds crazy. Then when I heard the clip of the Mebourne tribute with How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore with him crying out for her at the end, it was too much. Revelation is jammed packed with such emotion. It is really, in my opinion one of, if not, the BEST of his work. It does tie up the package very nicely. It is a glimpse into where his mind was recently. . I agree that he was not fully vested in those marriages. I have no doubt he loved and cared for both Mayte and Mani, but he couldn't get Denise out of his system and that limited how much of himself he could give them. He admits it in one of those last concerts in Atlanta. He is sings I Love You But I Don't Trust You Anymore and he says, "I guess I got her out of my system". Then he goes into Little Red Corvette, he says, "maybe not". So he was revealing more himself right there. Again, no speculation, he comes right out and says it. [Edited 5/25/16 6:01am]

Wow. The Atlanta concerts must have been quite something. Someone posted on youtube that he got really emotional and walked off stage in Atlanta after he sang 'A Case of You' as well.

The lyrics for that are:

I am a lonely painter, I live in a box of paints

I used 2 be frightened by the devil and drawn 2 those who weren't afraid

Remember when u told me that love was touching souls?

Well, surely you touched mine

Part of you pours out of me from time 2 time in these lines

You're in my blood like holy wine...you're so bitter and so sweet

I could drink a case of you darling and still be on my feet...still be on my feet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfFXM6I8Sg4

[Edited 5/25/16 8:11am]

[Edited 5/25/16 8:13am]

You know that "A Case of You" was written by Joni Mitchell right? I'm a huge fan of Joni Mitchell (years before I even knew Prince existed) so I love that he was also a huge fan.

kellyna said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

Wow. The Atlanta concerts must have been quite something. Someone posted on youtube that he got really emotional and walked off stage after he sang 'A Case of You' as well.

The lyrics for that are:

I am a lonely painter, I live in a box of paints

I used 2 be frightened by the devil and drawn 2 those who weren't afraid

Remember when u told me that love was touching souls?

Well, surely you touched mine

Part of you pours out of me from time 2 time in these lines

You're in my blood like holy wine...you're so bitter and so sweet

I could drink a case of you darling and still be on my feet...still be on my feet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfFXM6I8Sg4

[Edited 5/25/16 8:11am]

[Edited 5/25/16 8:13am]

You know that "A Case of You" was written by Joni Mitchell right? I'm a huge fan of Joni Mitchell (years before I even knew Prince existed) so I love that he was also a huge fan.

Yeah, I did know that. She had a huge influence on him. I think they were quite close as well - I heard he'd hung out with her in the studio. Apparently, he was performing A Case of You live in the early 80's too.

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purplegirl00 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Joni Mitchells health issues were weighing heavy on him too

I knew he admired her and his music was influenced by hers. I didn't know she was going through health issues.

Yes Joni Mitchell has battled some mental health issues for a number of years now. She has this strange disease called Morgellon disease which makes her think her skin is being eaten by parasites (and no I'm not kidding). I think she has always also dealt with anxiety and nervousness issues - never liked performing in front of audiences etc. In 2015 she was found unconscious at her home and for hospitalized for awhile - but I believe she now back home and gaining her health again. I saw an interview she did with Canadian television (she was born in Canada and has a home in Vancouver) and she said that she can't really sing anymore, which must be so difficult for someone who is so gifted musically!

SunnyGirl8 said:

Vashtix said:

the traumatic childs of Denise/Vanity and Prince resulted in the creativity I loved. I am sorry for their childhoods but that was what was in them that made them the iconic people they were.

I agree. Who they were as individuals and all the experiences that shaped them, and their combination resulted in an amazing soundtrack that will resonate for a very long time.

[Edited 5/25/16 5:55am]

Them processing their trauma/childhoods would not have stemmed any creativity but it would have perhaps saved them from self-destruction/sadness, especially Denise from acting out fatally trying to numb with hardcore drugs....I don't want music if someone has to live a life racked with pain and suffering just so I can hear their creativity...they could have gotten help and still been just as creative...not mutually exclusive

Prince was mentioning his father in some of these concerts as well, getting emotional, talking about loving his father, that his father taught him to play piano.

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I think his whole musical career was based on his need to gain his father's approval. In some of the pictures of them together when PR was having its success, you can tell Prince felt he FINALLY had gotten his father's approval. They had a difficult relationship even after though.

[Edited 5/25/16 8:52am]

kellyna said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

Wow. The Atlanta concerts must have been quite something. Someone posted on youtube that he got really emotional and walked off stage in Atlanta after he sang 'A Case of You' as well.

The lyrics for that are:

I am a lonely painter, I live in a box of paints

I used 2 be frightened by the devil and drawn 2 those who weren't afraid

Remember when u told me that love was touching souls?

Well, surely you touched mine

Part of you pours out of me from time 2 time in these lines

You're in my blood like holy wine...you're so bitter and so sweet

I could drink a case of you darling and still be on my feet...still be on my feet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfFXM6I8Sg4

[Edited 5/25/16 8:11am]

[Edited 5/25/16 8:13am]

You know that "A Case of You" was written by Joni Mitchell right? I'm a huge fan of Joni Mitchell (years before I even knew Prince existed) so I love that he was also a huge fan.

Yep. I heard he left the stage and concert goers were a little confused by it at first.

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Case of You is beautiful. Yes, I knew it was a Joni Mitchell song. For Prince, it's filled with symbolism. I know someone pointed this out earlier, but the secular meaning of the name Denise is god/goddess of wine. Though I know from her preaching, she preferred the Christian/Bible interpretation of it.

30yearfan said:

wizardtelly said:

I was listening to "Orgasm" and "Poem" earlier and as we all have discussed before, it is quite a deeply sexual interlude. The guitars add to the iridescent feel of the atmosphere that one could have imagined they were in whilst she recorded that in the 80s. Aside from it being sexual, I'm find it increasingly possessive, and spiritual. I wrote on this topic pages back, but his way of keeping Up with Vanity was revenge in the form of what she loved the most, sex. As she found God, he used this tactic to remind her that it was him she also worshipped back then. Quite absurd, intriguing and stimulating to listen to whilst alone for sure, but it says a lot. I am surprised we did not discuss that as much. There is indeed spirituality in sexuality, as proven by Prince repetitively. Of all their demos, songs, and recordings from that time, it was that he chose to give her some financial help through royalties. A nice gesture, with an obvious undertone of "You're still mine," and in true Prince erotica fashion, he added the "she know in the album credits. It never stopped, and I think a big portion of their love back then was also God. If Denise had in fact been sexually abused growing up (as she was abused in various ways and had said things about experiencing sexual abuse but quickly reverted to, "I have given it to God") I do believe that Prince was that paternal figure, who was also a lover, and oddly spiritually connected to her in a way in which we may not quite understand. Two young adults with rough upbringings to a degree, found comfort in their spirituality and sexuality, and pushing that envelope. Early on Denise was okay with her liberation, and spoke freely of it. I think it was more spiritually engrained than sexual now when I realize. Then again, I'm coming to realize they're the same thing and his way of connecting sex to God, was his way of love and winning her back/getting her hot and bothered in her "new life."

You know that's a really deep thought. She has said that Prince was like a father to her. I think that the intensity of their deep connection probably scared both of them. She said that they were so close that it was scary. She said they would wake up and realize they had dreamed the same dream. The lyrics to the song Girl (b side) talk about how frightened he was by how intensely he was feeling about her. And for those people who say how do you know the song is about her, she is actually singing/speaking on the song if you play it backwards. (I've heard it myself and it's verified on Princevault.com) I think she did worship him and it probably was a huge turn on for him. I think that when she became a Christian, which is around the time Orgasm came out, he might have been jealous that she loved something more than him. When they were together he probably cheated on her as a defense mechanism if that makes any sense. His greatest fear is that she would leave him as we can see in the powerful song WDC, perhaps subconsciously he probably wanted to beat her to the punch by cheating and protecting himself emotionally if she left. It didn't help cause when she left he was devastated.

I think this hits the nail on the head as I could never understand why Prince would mess around with so many other women when he clearly loved Vanity very deeply. But I think you're on to soemthing here - their link, their bond was so strong, so passionate that it probably overwhelmed both of them. Prince didn't like that it made him feel vulnerable caring for Vanity so much, so to offset it he messed around with other women. What he didn't count on, is that it really played on Vanity's insecurities and made her doubt that she was really special to Prince. And when she walked away from him, she was hurt. She was hurt by his cheating, by the way he tried to control her, by him not supporting her career fully (if it's correct that she wanted to do the movie with Scorsese and still be with Prince, but he gave her an ultimatium) and hurt by her belief that she alone would never be enough for him and he would never change. Later when Prince realizes how special she was and tried to win her back, he didn't realize how much damage he had already done. By then they both still loved each other, but really didn't trust each other and to Vanity it must have seemed like Prince wanted to have his cake and eat it too. Honestly if a guy is begging you to come back, but won't stop seeing other women what would you think?

beachy said:

paisleypunk said:

Prince definitely had innate and maybe even some psychic awareness about energy, chakras, etc...when he played he knew how the music could affect people on all levels...I saw a quote somewhere where he mentioned tones opening up chakras, etc...the dude was definitely connected to spirit...I think that's why his passing has made so many of us bawl like babies, lol..even grown men...bc his music and soul affected us , you could sense he was pouring his own soul into each chord for all of us to experience...he was special

[Edited 5/24/16 22:44pm]

i could be way off here, reading stuff into it, but i can't shake that song Revelation. It also seems to come from another dimension. That's a recent song, from the last record.

I haven't had a chance to listen to Revelation yet, but I will tonight when I get home. What year was it written / recorded? If nothing else, this thread is making me seek out all these Prince tunes I wasn't familiar with and made me listen to them in a whole new way - it's wonderful!!

beachy said:

Prince was mentioning his father in some of these concerts as well, getting emotional, talking about loving his father, that his father taught him to play piano.

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I think his whole musical career was based on his need to gain his father's approval. In some of the pictures of them together when PR was having its success, you can tell Prince felt he FINALLY had gotten his father's approval. They had a difficult relationship even after though.

[Edited 5/25/16 8:52am]

Yes, he was mentioning his father. I think he was overcome and a flood of emotions of different things poured along with his grief over Denise.

kellyna said:

beachy said:

i could be way off here, reading stuff into it, but i can't shake that song Revelation. It also seems to come from another dimension. That's a recent song, from the last record.

I haven't had a chance to listen to Revelation yet, but I will tonight when I get home. What year was it written / recorded? If nothing else, this thread is making me seek out all these Prince tunes I wasn't familiar with and made me listen to them in a whole new way - it's wonderful!!

Princevault says recorded summer 2014, was on HitNRun Phase 2