beachy said:

Goddess4Real said:

I agree and that is etched in my brain too, how close there passings were 2 months apart erie coincidence?

Either way, Prince knew what he was doing when he dedicated all those love songs to her. He could have easily stopped with LRC/DM and called it a day. He knew people would talk when he kept going. Could have stopped with Beautiful Ones. Could have stopped with the story. But no had to dedicate Adore too. lol He's been managing his PR for 40 years, he knew the effect this would have.

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Damn I even forgot the Ladder with the changed lyrics.

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I think he was deliberately constructing a legend like Burton and Taylor had. And yes they deliberately constructed theirs too. I've worked with celebrities, they know how to plant things in the public mind.

[Edited 5/24/16 21:20pm]

Sure there has been alot of speculation about Prince's relationship with Vanity over the years. However, there were no False Rumors after Feb 16, its been well documented and alot of people have seen and heard for themselves what Vanity/Denise meant to Prince during those shows in Australia and beyond!

[Edited 5/24/16 21:25pm]

[Edited 5/24/16 21:25pm]

I'll admit to being a hopeless romantic, but there's just TOO MANY flags throughout decades...

I posted this elsewhere as it gave me a measure of comfort and lifted some of my mourning/sadness for him......hope it does the same for others missing him and wishing him the best...

What an amazing testament to a person's life to have such an amazing outpouring of love and gratitude from so many, and such respect from his peers...

'When you were born, you cried as the world rejoiced..live your life in such a way..that when you die, the world will cry..as you rejoice'....he certainly did that, and more..

https://youtu.be/3REY918Ir-s

purplegirl00 said:

Vashtix said:

Very eerie and something to be noted and as we get older earlier days mean alot even for someone living in the present

Death is HUGE I never met Prince and I am grieving as if I spent every day with the man. I cannot even imagine how it feels to lose someone you once "loved deeply"

She was the inspiration for PR, and that is what launched him into stardom. That all by itself is HUGE. Then when you add the deep love he said he felt for her- that's burned into your soul. I'm a woman, but if I was a man, I would be utterly devastated. Death is final.

I cannot wrap my head around Denise/Vanity being the inspiration of the vehicle the skyrockted him to total international stardom forever; the significance of Denise/Vanity in his life cannot be denied by anyone even if they want to deny it.

beachy said:

Goddess4Real said:

I agree and that is etched in my brain too, how close there passings were 2 months apart erie coincidence?

Either way, Prince knew what he was doing when he dedicated all those love songs to her. He could have easily stopped with LRC/DM and called it a day. He knew people would talk when he kept going. Could have stopped with Beautiful Ones. Could have stopped with the story. But no had to dedicate Adore too. lol He's been managing his PR for 40 years, he knew the effect this would have.

.

Damn I even forgot the Ladder with the changed lyrics.

.

I think he was deliberately constructing a legend like Burton and Taylor had. And yes they deliberately constructed theirs too. I've worked with celebrities, they know how to plant things in the public mind.

[Edited 5/24/16 21:20pm]

Did anyone catch what he was saying at the end of "How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore" during the Melbourne tribute? I just listened about a half hour ago. I had tears rolling down my face. He left the stage at least once during the first show after finding out about her death. The concert goers from that first show were seen leaving speechless and crying. http://themusic.com.au/ne...y-tributes

Goddess4Real said:

beachy said:

Either way, Prince knew what he was doing when he dedicated all those love songs to her. He could have easily stopped with LRC/DM and called it a day. He knew people would talk when he kept going. Could have stopped with Beautiful Ones. Could have stopped with the story. But no had to dedicate Adore too. lol He's been managing his PR for 40 years, he knew the effect this would have.

.

Damn I even forgot the Ladder with the changed lyrics.

.

I think he was deliberately constructing a legend like Burton and Taylor had. And yes they deliberately constructed theirs too. I've worked with celebrities, they know how to plant things in the public mind.

[Edited 5/24/16 21:20pm]

Sure there has been alot of speculation about Prince's relationship with Vanity over the years. However, there were no False Rumors after Feb 16, its been well documented and alot of people have seen and heard for themselves what Vanity/Denise meant to Prince during those shows in Australia and beyond!

[Edited 5/24/16 21:25pm]

[Edited 5/24/16 21:25pm]

yep seems clear to me, he said it, its not ridculous speculation, its not psychoanalysis

[Edited 5/24/16 21:33pm]

What stands out to me which is beyond speculation or denial are his own words, 'we loved each other deeply'...etc..and how emotional he was, etc when is the last time Prince opened up so emotionally in public, someone posted that a handler had brought out kleenex to put by the piano for the first set, and another that his cries during 'Beautiful Ones' ('she knows about this one') were heart wrenching........Morris Day was there when it all happened and posted 'together again'......I think he was in a weakened state fighting flu and malnutrition but that losing her in a final way affected him, and his heart simply stopped ...tragic yet beautiful to know love can be that strong and everlasting...and that she and he remained in contact for ?33 years after the initial split? ..that he went after her and sent note to drop Sixx and take him back?...he didn't stay in contact even with his ex wives, and didn't try to get them to take him back......and that they pass 9 weeks apart?...I hope they are together and finally at peace~ love never dies <3

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said:

Either way, Prince knew what he was doing when he dedicated all those love songs to her. He could have easily stopped with LRC/DM and called it a day. He knew people would talk when he kept going. Could have stopped with Beautiful Ones. Could have stopped with the story. But no had to dedicate Adore too. lol He's been managing his PR for 40 years, he knew the effect this would have.

.

Damn I even forgot the Ladder with the changed lyrics.

.

I think he was deliberately constructing a legend like Burton and Taylor had. And yes they deliberately constructed theirs too. I've worked with celebrities, they know how to plant things in the public mind.

[Edited 5/24/16 21:20pm]

Did anyone catch what he was saying at the end of "How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore" during the Melbourne tribute? I just listened about a half hour ago. I had tears rolling down my face. He left the stage at least once during the first show after finding out about her death. The concert goers from that first show were seen leaving speechless and crying. http://themusic.com.au/ne...y-tributes

Love that! The reveiw say it all- no rumors there, no speculation

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said:

Either way, Prince knew what he was doing when he dedicated all those love songs to her. He could have easily stopped with LRC/DM and called it a day. He knew people would talk when he kept going. Could have stopped with Beautiful Ones. Could have stopped with the story. But no had to dedicate Adore too. lol He's been managing his PR for 40 years, he knew the effect this would have.

.

Damn I even forgot the Ladder with the changed lyrics.

.

I think he was deliberately constructing a legend like Burton and Taylor had. And yes they deliberately constructed theirs too. I've worked with celebrities, they know how to plant things in the public mind.

[Edited 5/24/16 21:20pm]

Did anyone catch what he was saying at the end of "How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore" during the Melbourne tribute? I just listened about a half hour ago. I had tears rolling down my face. He left the stage at least once during the first show after finding out about her death. The concert goers from that first show were seen leaving speechless and crying. http://themusic.com.au/ne...y-tributes

sounds like

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(unclear)

Bring her back

Bring her back

Bring her back home...to me...

beachy said:

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said:

sounds like

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(unclear)

Bring her back

Bring her back

Bring her back home...to me...

Yes. I was listening and when I heard that at the end, I lost it right there. It's NOT part of the lyrics of that song! He was crying out for her to come back to him. [Edited 5/24/16 21:53pm]

wow.

wonder what the unclear part was.

speechless.

I can't recall the exact song or lyrics but someone posted lyrics to the effect of filling the void with others....I don't doubt he loved Mayte and Mani, but I feel Vanity was the strongest love...Mayte/Mani were so similiar to Vanity in looks, it's like he was subconsciously trying to get her back...and both were in subordinate positions, age wise, employee, etc..Vanity was the only one somewhat on the same level as him, they collaborated on PR...Vanity as in mirror/reflection of himself...etc..I think both tried to move on by finding others but it never filled the void, never did the trick...how much I wish Vanity had stuck around to film PR, or that their childhood traums, etc didn't interfere when they were young and acting out...prevent them from reconnecting......only they know the truth, but I think they loved each other most till the very end...

[Edited 5/24/16 22:04pm]

paisleypunk said:

I can't recall the exact song or lyrics but someone posted lyrics to the effect of filling the void with others....I don't doubt he loved Mayte and Mani, but they were so similiar to Vanity in looks...and both were in subordinate positions, age wise, employee, etc..Vanity was the only one on the same level as him, they collaborated on PR...Vanity as in mirror/reflection of himself...etc..I think both tried to move on by finding others but it never filled the void, never did the trick...how much I wish Vanity had stuck around to film PR...only they know the truth, but I think they loved each other most till the very end...

it's strange because when I first started looking at all Prince's girlfriends and wives Vanity was the one that stood out like a train wreck, how she could walk away before PR. get into drugs, have a spotty career and end up married to a murderer after near death.

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Now I think the complete opposite. She had so many talents. And this awful damage from a horrendous childhood. She had the violence, Prince had the abandonment. I am sure that is why he felt he needed so much control. It drove her away.

Isn't that so sad...he admitted that he needed to control bc of his fear of losing someone...and they were still pretty young and dealing with fame is a heady mix...I think if they had reconnected at a more mature point in their lives, after he sowed most of his rockstar oats as it were and if she had gotten a handle on her trauma and its effects...if she hadn't gotten more deeply hooked on hardcore drugs w skank Sixx, etc...they may have had a chance...despite all of it, they STILL never fell out of love...amazing if you think about it..it's like a Shakespearean tragedy

[Edited 5/24/16 22:14pm]

beachy said:

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said:

wow.

wonder what the unclear part was.

speechless.

I just put myself through that heartbreaking ending again to try to make out what he was saying before the "bring her, bring her, bring her... back to me." It sounds like he says, "I did all, I did all..". He doesn't finish the sentence.

or

,

Dear Lord

Dear Dear Lord

Bring her back

Bring her back

Bring her back home...to me...

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said:

paisleypunk said:

I can't recall the exact song or lyrics but someone posted lyrics to the effect of filling the void with others....I don't doubt he loved Mayte and Mani, but they were so similiar to Vanity in looks...and both were in subordinate positions, age wise, employee, etc..Vanity was the only one on the same level as him, they collaborated on PR...Vanity as in mirror/reflection of himself...etc..I think both tried to move on by finding others but it never filled the void, never did the trick...how much I wish Vanity had stuck around to film PR...only they know the truth, but I think they loved each other most till the very end...

it's strange because when I first started looking at all Prince's girlfriends and wives Vanity was the one that stood out like a train wreck, how she could walk away before PR. get into drugs, have a spotty career and end up married to a murderer after near death.

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Now I think the complete opposite. She had so many talents. And this awful damage from a horrendous childhood. She had the violence, Prince had the abandonment. I am sure that is why he felt he needed so much control. It drove her away.

Same thing happened to me...I got so pulled in after his passing, I knew little of her but began to read up on them...at first I thought she was batshit crazy girl, lol...but then the more I read etc, it showed how much they meant to each other...dwspite all the tumultuous ups and downs and decades

beachy said:

wizardtelly said:

purplegirl00 said:

Did anyone catch what he was saying at the end of "How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore" during the Melbourne tribute? I just listened about a half hour ago. I had tears rolling down my face. He left the stage at least once during the first show after finding out about her death. The concert goers from that first show were seen leaving speechless and crying. http://themusic.com.au/ne...y-tributes

Can anyone please send me an audio of the tribute please? X

Seconded, please...though I think I need to prepare myself first...xx

Goddess4Real said:

purplegirl00 said:

Another picture of Denise. Looks like the same outfit in the picture posted a few pages back, so maybe same party? We've got the orange pants with white buttons and top.

[Edited 5/22/16 12:37pm]

I have never seen this pic, yeah they also dressed alike too, The Grammys 1983

I forgot to mention this, Vanity did the cane thing first see AMAs 1985

https://youtu.be/S8ZQTKlO3kY

Prince just copied her

[Edited 5/24/16 22:33pm]

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said:

or

,

Dear Lord

Dear Dear Lord

Bring her back

Bring her back

Bring her back home...to me...

"Dear Lord" sounds right. Oh my goodness. That punched me in the stomach with grief especially with him playing the piano in such a toned down, sad closing as he is saying it.

You guys r killing me.....all I can do is think somehow, someway..they found each other at last..physics...energy never dies...

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said:

or

,

Dear Lord

Dear Dear Lord

Bring her back

Bring her back

Bring her back home...to me...

"Dear Lord" sounds right. Oh my goodness. That punched me in the stomach with grief especially with him playing the piano in such a toned down, sad closing as he is saying it.

This might sound weird but i think they knew they couldn't be together in this world. That window had closed. Now he was thinking on a different plane, beyond time. or above it. And he's still being the nurturing father here.

this might sound even stranger but somehow their deaths and his avatar with the third eye open gave me an epiphany about the spirit leaving the body, and shedding the body, going to another place. perhaps returning.

[Edited 5/24/16 22:39pm]

beachy said:

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said: "Dear Lord" sounds right. Oh my goodness. That punched me in the stomach with grief especially with him playing the piano in such a toned down, sad closing as he is saying it.

This might sound weird but i think they knew they couldn't be together in this world. That window had closed. Now he was thinking on a different plane, beyond time. or above it. And he's still being the nurturing father here.

Someone else had posted that his passing so close to hers was almost as if one could not exist in this world without the other....

I think Vanity did the cane first, no? She had one at the 1985 AMA awards...

beachy said:

I think Vanity did the cane first, no? She had one at the 1985 AMA awards...

Yuuup she did it first.

beachy said:

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said: "Dear Lord" sounds right. Oh my goodness. That punched me in the stomach with grief especially with him playing the piano in such a toned down, sad closing as he is saying it.

This might sound weird but i think they knew they couldn't be together in this world. That window had closed. Now he was thinking on a different plane, beyond time. or above it. And he's still being the nurturing father here.

this might sound even stranger but somehow their deaths and his avatar with the third eye open gave me an epiphany about the spirit leaving the body, and shedding the body, going to another place. perhaps returning.

[Edited 5/24/16 22:39pm]

Prince definitely had innate and maybe even some psychic awareness about energy, chakras, etc...when he played he knew how the music could affect people on all levels...I saw a quote somewhere where he mentioned tones opening up chakras, etc...the dude was definitely connected to spirit...I think that's why his passing has made so many of us bawl like babies, lol..even grown men...bc his music and soul affected us , you could sense he was pouring his own soul into each chord for all of us to experience...he was special

[Edited 5/24/16 22:44pm]

about the tribute, send me a note

paisleypunk said:

beachy said:

This might sound weird but i think they knew they couldn't be together in this world. That window had closed. Now he was thinking on a different plane, beyond time. or above it. And he's still being the nurturing father here.

this might sound even stranger but somehow their deaths and his avatar with the third eye open gave me an epiphany about the spirit leaving the body, and shedding the body, going to another place. perhaps returning.

[Edited 5/24/16 22:39pm]

Prince definitely had innate and maybe even some psychic awareness about energy, chakras, etc...when he played he knew how the music could affect people on all levels...I saw a quote somewhere where he mentioned tones opening up chakras, etc...the dude was definitely connected to spirit...I think that's why his passing has made so many of us bawl like babies, lol..even grown men...bc his music and soul affected us , you could sense he was pouring his own soul into each chord for all of us to experience...he was special

[Edited 5/24/16 22:44pm]

i could be way off here, reading stuff into it, but i can't shake that song Revelation. It also seems to come from another dimension. That's a recent song, from the last record.

paisleypunk said:

beachy said:

This might sound weird but i think they knew they couldn't be together in this world. That window had closed. Now he was thinking on a different plane, beyond time. or above it. And he's still being the nurturing father here.

this might sound even stranger but somehow their deaths and his avatar with the third eye open gave me an epiphany about the spirit leaving the body, and shedding the body, going to another place. perhaps returning.

[Edited 5/24/16 22:39pm]

Prince definitely had innate and maybe even some psychic awareness about energy, chakras, etc...when he played he knew how the music could affect people on all levels...I saw a quote somewhere where he mentioned tones opening up chakras, etc...the dude was definitely connected to spirit...I think that's why his passing has made so many of us bawl like babies, lol..even grown men...bc his music and soul affected us , you could sense he was pouring his own soul into each chord for all of us to experience...he was special

[Edited 5/24/16 22:44pm]

It is a universal mourning and for me it is felt deeply and yes even grown,GROWN men balling like babes over Prince passing on; for me it is a very spiritual

Vashtix said:

paisleypunk said:

Prince definitely had innate and maybe even some psychic awareness about energy, chakras, etc...when he played he knew how the music could affect people on all levels...I saw a quote somewhere where he mentioned tones opening up chakras, etc...the dude was definitely connected to spirit...I think that's why his passing has made so many of us bawl like babies, lol..even grown men...bc his music and soul affected us , you could sense he was pouring his own soul into each chord for all of us to experience...he was special

[Edited 5/24/16 22:44pm]

It is a universal mourning and for me it is felt deeply and yes even grown,GROWN men balling like babes over Prince passing on; for me it is a very spiritual

I don't buy 99.99 of these peeps, but this woman seemed legit and resonated with a lot of what I was feeling...

https://youtu.be/3REY918Ir-s