purplegirl00 said:

cng89 said:

You know, I highly doubt that that person who is claiming to know Prince knew him for a month, much less thirty damn years! If someone like Apollonia who ACTUALLY knew him and was close to him said that they felt his hurt and love for Vanity after she passed, then I would say that he was pretty hurt by her death. I don't know why that person or any people for that matter even comes onto this thread if they are going to be negative. And no disrespect to that person but I feel like they are either a Mayte or Susannah Melvoin stan or they are in love with the 00's and 10's young girls. Like have seat somewhere! And if people who actually knew him for years like Morris Day, Jimmy Jam, Carmen Electra and again Apollonia are speaking about Vanity and him then your statement really doesn't matter. As Morris Day said with a picture of Prince and Vanity.... TOGETHER AGAIN!

There has been NOTHING but love for Prince on this thread. It started out with discussion about the possibility that Denise's (aka Vanity) death was ONE of the contributing factors in his death since the timing was incredibly close. In the almost 40 pages, it has turned into a celebration of Prince, his music, and his undeniable love for Denise. Yes, he loved her and admitted it quite frankly in a concert. Oh but since you're a close acquaintaince, you should already know. We have been respectful of everyone's grieving process- this includes his two ex-wives and all the ladies he cared for.

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Additionally, this is a public forum where many fans have been grieving the loss of our beloved Prince. Is it not disrespectful for you to come on here and start blasting people? Everyone is speculating and wondering what happened to Prince. EVERYONE.

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You better say that! And say it a little louder for that foolish person who thought otherwise.

3121TV said:

I dont find this thread disrespectful in the least..Its not full of 'false rumors'..only romanticized speculation that seems to have a concrete(and ethreal) foundation. If these posts help his fans to heal or feel better than i see nothing wrong with it. People, like yourself, who for whatever reason are bothered by it, need not read it.
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well, a look at 3121s profile and it is clear that his/her primary purpose is to shut people down if he/she does not agree, rather than engage in discussion. Stated they were a JW. Also appears to be a licensed distributor of HitnRunPhase2 CD and Piano and Mic tour books (but no other music or merchandise).

https://www.funk4u.com/

.'Says the same line or a small variant in every post. Friend for over 30yr, knew personally, JW, directs people to JW official website. Stop being disrespectful, thank you for being respectful in future.

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Nobody here was being disrespectful. Everyone has been a grieving fan of both Prince and Vanity and it is natural to want to make sense of these deaths so close together. In fact I think most of us have tried extra to respect Prince, Vanity and those who were close to Prince and grieving.

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And, like others said, real friends like Morris Day, Downtown Julie Brown, Apollonia and Carmen Electra and anonymous sources to NYT have all made comments about Prince and Vanity.

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wizardtelly said:

3121TV said:

Prince was NOT depressed regarding Vanity. Everyone needs to stop with the FALSE STATEMENTS and FALSE speculations. You don't know and didn't know Prince personally so be respectful and stop with all the FALSE rumors.

Yes I knew him for over 30+ years. Please respect him and stop all of this. Grow up and stop with all these ridiculous posts please.

3121.TV

Well, in that case, if you knew him, you may have known her. If he wasn't the slightest depressed about her passing, then you tell us, know it all. Prince was also private. I think we have been the most respectful, never disregarding his personal life. In the midst of speculation of terminal illnesses that are based on attempts of character depletion and inconceivable gossip, you choose to tell us in here to stop "disrespecting" him when we are only grieving and showing support.

good point. I've been avoiding other threads because they are constantly talking AIDs, drug addict, running down his staff because they didn't make a stronger intervention, wanting to crucify anyone near him who didn't force him to comply with their ideas of what should have been done. It was so mindnumbingly negative, this is the only thread I could tolerate and find humor in. And this is the one he/she chooses to target? wonder if they read all 39+ pages lol. must have taken some time lol.

This one and the JW thread. Neither are particularly negative. Speaks to a personal agenda I guess.

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scriptgirl said:

1986 was way too early for V to have been with Nikki. They didn't hook up till 87-88, I don't think. Cause in Feb 88 was when I read about the engagement.

Those dates are straight out of Nikki's book. But maybe they got engaged again, that would be interesting. Do you still have the article? It would be awesome if you could find it and post it.

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beachy said:

wizardtelly said:

3121TV said: Well, in that case, if you knew him, you may have known her. If he wasn't the slightest depressed about her passing, then you tell us, know it all. Prince was also private. I think we have been the most respectful, never disregarding his personal life. In the midst of speculation of terminal illnesses that are based on attempts of character depletion and inconceivable gossip, you choose to tell us in here to stop "disrespecting" him when we are only grieving and showing support.

good point. I've been avoiding other threads because they are constantly talking AIDs, drug addict, running down his staff because they didn't make a stronger intervention, wanting to crucify anyone near him who didn't force him to comply with their ideas of what should have been done. It was so mindnumbingly negative, this is the only thread I could tolerate and find humor in. And this is the one he/she chooses to target? wonder if they read all 39+ pages lol. must have taken some time lol.

This one and the JW thread. Neither are particularly negative. Speaks to a personal agenda I guess.

[Edited 5/24/16 18:51pm]

Also in our own way we are also greiving for Vanity/Denise too First Bowie, Maurice White, Natalie Cole, Vanity and now Prince, it's been a crappy 2016 so far.

beachy said:

30yearfan said:

Prince and Denise met in Jan 1980 at the American Music Awards. The meeting date was in her funeral program and there is an interview in the 80's where she says she met him in 1980. The song Dirty Mind is about her. Prince talked about her during the Oakland show in Feb. Before he played Dirty Mind he talked about how there was one girl in particular. He even mimicked her dancing to this song and told the audience that was how she used to dance to this song. That part of his show is available online. I came across an interesting tidbit on another site. There was a real estate guy who toured Prince's properties in 1989 ( he has the pictures to prove it), and he talked about the famous purple house. Prince's dad was living in it at the time. He talked about the first thing that he noticed about the house was that in the concrete walkway when you come to the front door Vanity's name had been etched in the stone.

Interesting. I can't make the dates add up because the story kept changing so I went mostly by her words in that interview where she said 2 -1/2 years off and on counting backwards from mid 1983. If you can give us some links or tell us where to look that would be awesome. Rick James said in his autobiography that he didn't meet Prince until their tour in Feb '80. He mentions that Prince stole his girl group idea in early 82. There is also the alternate story about them meeting in a club, which is how the PR movie portrayed it. Prince got the house you mention end of 1980/early 1981.

Here is the link with the story about the purple house. Have to find the link for the interview that she gave saying they met in 1980. It was not a major interview like Dave Letterman but I will track it down.

https://www.facebook.com/381803821984623/photos/a.411977255633946.1073741828.381803821984623/582129795285357/?type=3

30yearfan said:

beachy said:

Interesting. I can't make the dates add up because the story kept changing so I went mostly by her words in that interview where she said 2 -1/2 years off and on counting backwards from mid 1983. If you can give us some links or tell us where to look that would be awesome. Rick James said in his autobiography that he didn't meet Prince until their tour in Feb '80. He mentions that Prince stole his girl group idea in early 82. There is also the alternate story about them meeting in a club, which is how the PR movie portrayed it. Prince got the house you mention end of 1980/early 1981.

Here is the link with the story about the purple house. Have to find the link for the interview that she gave saying they met in 1980. It was not a major interview like Dave Letterman but I will track it down.

https://www.facebook.com/381803821984623/photos/a.411977255633946.1073741828.381803821984623/582129795285357/?type=3

Thanks for this info, Prince's house looks pretty cool. And this is just part 1 from Pastor Jeff.

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I don't have the article, but I know I read it Feb 1988. Now, you have to consider that mags have lead time, so the article may have been written in Oct, Nov or Dec.

I wouldn't trust Nikki re his memory. All those drugs...

I was listening to "Orgasm" and "Poem" earlier and as we all have discussed before, it is quite a deeply sexual interlude. The guitars add to the iridescent feel of the atmosphere that one could have imagined they were in whilst she recorded that in the 80s. Aside from it being sexual, I'm find it increasingly possessive, and spiritual.

I wrote on this topic pages back, but his way of keeping Up with Vanity was revenge in the form of what she loved the most, sex. As she found God, he used this tactic to remind her that it was him she also worshipped back then. Quite absurd, intriguing and stimulating to listen to whilst alone for sure, but it says a lot. I am surprised we did not discuss that as much. There is indeed spirituality in sexuality, as proven by Prince repetitively. Of all their demos, songs, and recordings from that time, it was that he chose to give her some financial help through royalties. A nice gesture, with an obvious undertone of "You're still mine," and in true Prince erotica fashion, he added the "she know in the album credits. It never stopped, and I think a big portion of their love back then was also God.

If Denise had in fact been sexually abused growing up (as she was abused in various ways and had said things about experiencing sexual abuse but quickly reverted to, "I have given it to God") I do believe that Prince was that paternal figure, who was also a lover, and oddly spiritually connected to her in a way in which we may not quite understand. Two young adults with rough upbringings to a degree, found comfort in their spirituality and sexuality, and pushing that envelope. Early on Denise was okay with her liberation, and spoke freely of it. I think it was more spiritually engrained than sexual now when I realize. Then again, I'm coming to realize they're the same thing and his way of connecting sex to God, was his way of love and winning her back/getting her hot and bothered in her "new life."

I am a huge Pinterest fan

Here is a Pinterest Board dedicated to Vanity.

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https://www.pinterest.com/christeencole19/vanity/

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Enjoy!

purplegirl00 said:

cng89 said:

You know, I highly doubt that that person who is claiming to know Prince knew him for a month, much less thirty damn years! If someone like Apollonia who ACTUALLY knew him and was close to him said that they felt his hurt and love for Vanity after she passed, then I would say that he was pretty hurt by her death. I don't know why that person or any people for that matter even comes onto this thread if they are going to be negative. And no disrespect to that person but I feel like they are either a Mayte or Susannah Melvoin stan or they are in love with the 00's and 10's young girls. Like have seat somewhere! And if people who actually knew him for years like Morris Day, Jimmy Jam, Carmen Electra and again Apollonia are speaking about Vanity and him then your statement really doesn't matter. As Morris Day said with a picture of Prince and Vanity.... TOGETHER AGAIN!

There has been NOTHING but love for Prince on this thread. It started out with discussion about the possibility that Denise's (aka Vanity) death was ONE of the contributing factors in his death since the timing was incredibly close. In the almost 40 pages, it has turned into a celebration of Prince, his music, and his undeniable love for Denise. Yes, he loved her and admitted it quite frankly in a concert. Oh but since you're a close acquaintaince, you should already know. We have been respectful of everyone's grieving process- this includes his two ex-wives and all the ladies he cared for.

.

Additionally, this is a public forum where many fans have been grieving the loss of our beloved Prince. Is it not disrespectful for you to come on here and start blasting people? Everyone is speculating and wondering what happened to Prince. EVERYONE.

[Edited 5/24/16 17:49pm]

Purplegirl00:

I understand people are grieving. However, when people who dont know him are speculating and making FALSE statements it is not cool. Then all the FALSE RUMORS continue. I am just saying be respectful when you post items. And yes I had/have known him over 30+ years.

Thank you for being respectful in the future.

3121.TV

Goddess4Real said:

beachy said:

good point. I've been avoiding other threads because they are constantly talking AIDs, drug addict, running down his staff because they didn't make a stronger intervention, wanting to crucify anyone near him who didn't force him to comply with their ideas of what should have been done. It was so mindnumbingly negative, this is the only thread I could tolerate and find humor in. And this is the one he/she chooses to target? wonder if they read all 39+ pages lol. must have taken some time lol.

This one and the JW thread. Neither are particularly negative. Speaks to a personal agenda I guess.

[Edited 5/24/16 18:51pm]

Also in our own way we are also greiving for Vanity/Denise too First Bowie, Maurice White, Natalie Cole, Vanity and now Prince, it's been a crappy 2016 so far.

yup. we shouldn't have to justify ourselves to this one time fly by poster though. We don't know who they really are, we have zero proof they actually knew Prince at all. Maybe we got punked. Personally I feel that anyone who was truly a friend of Prince's would be all over the threads where they are talking about AIDS and being a druggie.' Fans' wanting to prosecute doctors and staff who were trying to help Prince. This, OTOH, is a harmless thread about romantic speculation that has absolutely no bearing on Prince's reputation and is probably only read by a small handful of people on this site. You can argue about opinions and what the facts mean, but we are careful about the facts themselves. There's nothing false here about the underlying facts. Oh and I don't trust anyone with a cut and paste assertion. It's bogus.

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3121TV said:

No disrespect but of all threads, you choose the most tactical and respectable one? Nothing we are mentioning constitute as rumors or defamatory considering all are researchable and exemplifications of his life.

beachy said:

Goddess4Real said:

Also in our own way we are also greiving for Vanity/Denise too First Bowie, Maurice White, Natalie Cole, Vanity and now Prince, it's been a crappy 2016 so far.

yup. we shouldn't have to justify ourselves to this one time fly by poster though. We don't know who they really are, we have zero proof they actually knew Prince at all. Maybe we got punked.

Beachy,

I am not a "fly by poster" and you are not getting punked. I have been posting on the ORG for many years. The fact is I want a dear friend to be simply respected and FALSE statement to stop. There is no hidden agenda. It is sad that people do not understand simple respect.

Thank you for being respectful in the future.

3121.TV

wizardtelly said:

I was listening to "Orgasm" and "Poem" earlier and as we all have discussed before, it is quite a deeply sexual interlude. The guitars add to the iridescent feel of the atmosphere that one could have imagined they were in whilst she recorded that in the 80s. Aside from it being sexual, I'm find it increasingly possessive, and spiritual. I wrote on this topic pages back, but his way of keeping Up with Vanity was revenge in the form of what she loved the most, sex. As she found God, he used this tactic to remind her that it was him she also worshipped back then. Quite absurd, intriguing and stimulating to listen to whilst alone for sure, but it says a lot. I am surprised we did not discuss that as much. There is indeed spirituality in sexuality, as proven by Prince repetitively. Of all their demos, songs, and recordings from that time, it was that he chose to give her some financial help through royalties. A nice gesture, with an obvious undertone of "You're still mine," and in true Prince erotica fashion, he added the "she know in the album credits. It never stopped, and I think a big portion of their love back then was also God. If Denise had in fact been sexually abused growing up (as she was abused in various ways and had said things about experiencing sexual abuse but quickly reverted to, "I have given it to God") I do believe that Prince was that paternal figure, who was also a lover, and oddly spiritually connected to her in a way in which we may not quite understand. Two young adults with rough upbringings to a degree, found comfort in their spirituality and sexuality, and pushing that envelope. Early on Denise was okay with her liberation, and spoke freely of it. I think it was more spiritually engrained than sexual now when I realize. Then again, I'm coming to realize they're the same thing and his way of connecting sex to God, was his way of love and winning her back/getting her hot and bothered in her "new life."

This is excellent. In the excerpt from the book that Beachy posted a few pages back, Denise says that Prince "nursed her, took care of her", "he became like a father to her and loved playing dad because of the terrible insecurity she experienced as a child".

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Sex is spiritual but the ways he managed to blend them gave him an out. He could continue having all these different women on the side and blame it on the "flesh" (as spiritual people do) but love was more than the flesh (sex), as he says in the UTCM exchange that Beachy posted a few pages back.

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I said also that I felt his use of Vanity's moaning on Orgasm was a way to remind her and say to her, "Remember how good it was? Are you sure you want to give that up?".

wizardtelly said:

I was listening to "Orgasm" and "Poem" earlier and as we all have discussed before, it is quite a deeply sexual interlude. The guitars add to the iridescent feel of the atmosphere that one could have imagined they were in whilst she recorded that in the 80s. Aside from it being sexual, I'm find it increasingly possessive, and spiritual. I wrote on this topic pages back, but his way of keeping Up with Vanity was revenge in the form of what she loved the most, sex. As she found God, he used this tactic to remind her that it was him she also worshipped back then. Quite absurd, intriguing and stimulating to listen to whilst alone for sure, but it says a lot. I am surprised we did not discuss that as much. There is indeed spirituality in sexuality, as proven by Prince repetitively. Of all their demos, songs, and recordings from that time, it was that he chose to give her some financial help through royalties. A nice gesture, with an obvious undertone of "You're still mine," and in true Prince erotica fashion, he added the "she know in the album credits. It never stopped, and I think a big portion of their love back then was also God. If Denise had in fact been sexually abused growing up (as she was abused in various ways and had said things about experiencing sexual abuse but quickly reverted to, "I have given it to God") I do believe that Prince was that paternal figure, who was also a lover, and oddly spiritually connected to her in a way in which we may not quite understand. Two young adults with rough upbringings to a degree, found comfort in their spirituality and sexuality, and pushing that envelope. Early on Denise was okay with her liberation, and spoke freely of it. I think it was more spiritually engrained than sexual now when I realize. Then again, I'm coming to realize they're the same thing and his way of connecting sex to God, was his way of love and winning her back/getting her hot and bothered in her "new life."

You know that's a really deep thought. She has said that Prince was like a father to her. I think that the intensity of their deep connection probably scared both of them. She said that they were so close that it was scary. She said they would wake up and realize they had dreamed the same dream. The lyrics to the song Girl (b side) talk about how frightened he was by how intensely he was feeling about her. And for those people who say how do you know the song is about her, she is actually singing/speaking on the song if you play it backwards. (I've heard it myself and it's verified on Princevault.com) I think she did worship him and it probably was a huge turn on for him. I think that when she became a Christian, which is around the time Orgasm came out, he might have been jealous that she loved something more than him. When they were together he probably cheated on her as a defense mechanism if that makes any sense. His greatest fear is that she would leave him as we can see in the powerful song WDC, perhaps subconsciously he probably wanted to beat her to the punch by cheating and protecting himself emotionally if she left. It didn't help cause when she left he was devastated.

purplegirl00 said:

wizardtelly said:

I was listening to "Orgasm" and "Poem" earlier and as we all have discussed before, it is quite a deeply sexual interlude. The guitars add to the iridescent feel of the atmosphere that one could have imagined they were in whilst she recorded that in the 80s. Aside from it being sexual, I'm find it increasingly possessive, and spiritual. I wrote on this topic pages back, but his way of keeping Up with Vanity was revenge in the form of what she loved the most, sex. As she found God, he used this tactic to remind her that it was him she also worshipped back then. Quite absurd, intriguing and stimulating to listen to whilst alone for sure, but it says a lot. I am surprised we did not discuss that as much. There is indeed spirituality in sexuality, as proven by Prince repetitively. Of all their demos, songs, and recordings from that time, it was that he chose to give her some financial help through royalties. A nice gesture, with an obvious undertone of "You're still mine," and in true Prince erotica fashion, he added the "she know in the album credits. It never stopped, and I think a big portion of their love back then was also God. If Denise had in fact been sexually abused growing up (as she was abused in various ways and had said things about experiencing sexual abuse but quickly reverted to, "I have given it to God") I do believe that Prince was that paternal figure, who was also a lover, and oddly spiritually connected to her in a way in which we may not quite understand. Two young adults with rough upbringings to a degree, found comfort in their spirituality and sexuality, and pushing that envelope. Early on Denise was okay with her liberation, and spoke freely of it. I think it was more spiritually engrained than sexual now when I realize. Then again, I'm coming to realize they're the same thing and his way of connecting sex to God, was his way of love and winning her back/getting her hot and bothered in her "new life."

This is excellent. In the excerpt from the book that Beachy posted a few pages back, Denise says that Prince "nursed her, took care of her", "he became like a father to her and loved playing dad because of the terrible insecurity she experienced as a child".

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Sex is spiritual but the ways he managed to blend them gave him an out. He could continue having all these different women on the side and blame it on the "flesh" (as spiritual people do) but love was more than the flesh (sex), as he says in the UTCM exchange that Beachy posted a few pages back.

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I said also that I felt his use of Vanity's moaning on Orgasm was a way to remind her and say to her, "Remember how good it was? Are you sure you want to give that up?".

Yeah I wanted to come back to this, you made excellent points. Definitely felt that he was using the recording as a way to regain sexual power over her.

30yearfan said:

wizardtelly said:

I was listening to "Orgasm" and "Poem" earlier and as we all have discussed before, it is quite a deeply sexual interlude. The guitars add to the iridescent feel of the atmosphere that one could have imagined they were in whilst she recorded that in the 80s. Aside from it being sexual, I'm find it increasingly possessive, and spiritual. I wrote on this topic pages back, but his way of keeping Up with Vanity was revenge in the form of what she loved the most, sex. As she found God, he used this tactic to remind her that it was him she also worshipped back then. Quite absurd, intriguing and stimulating to listen to whilst alone for sure, but it says a lot. I am surprised we did not discuss that as much. There is indeed spirituality in sexuality, as proven by Prince repetitively. Of all their demos, songs, and recordings from that time, it was that he chose to give her some financial help through royalties. A nice gesture, with an obvious undertone of "You're still mine," and in true Prince erotica fashion, he added the "she know in the album credits. It never stopped, and I think a big portion of their love back then was also God. If Denise had in fact been sexually abused growing up (as she was abused in various ways and had said things about experiencing sexual abuse but quickly reverted to, "I have given it to God") I do believe that Prince was that paternal figure, who was also a lover, and oddly spiritually connected to her in a way in which we may not quite understand. Two young adults with rough upbringings to a degree, found comfort in their spirituality and sexuality, and pushing that envelope. Early on Denise was okay with her liberation, and spoke freely of it. I think it was more spiritually engrained than sexual now when I realize. Then again, I'm coming to realize they're the same thing and his way of connecting sex to God, was his way of love and winning her back/getting her hot and bothered in her "new life."

You know that's a really deep thought. She has said that Prince was like a father to her. I think that the intensity of their deep connection probably scared both of them. She said that they were so close that it was scary. She said they would wake up and realize they had dreamed the same dream. The lyrics to the song Girl (b side) talk about how frightened he was by how intensely he was feeling about her. And for those people who say how do you know the song is about her, she is actually singing/speaking on the song if you play it backwards. (I've heard it myself and it's verified on Princevault.com) I think she did worship him and it probably was a huge turn on for him. I think that when she became a Christian, which is around the time Orgasm came out, he might have been jealous that she loved something more than him. When they were together he probably cheated on her as a defense mechanism if that makes any sense. His greatest fear is that she would leave him as we can see in the powerful song WDC, perhaps subconsciously he probably wanted to beat her to the punch by cheating and protecting himself emotionally if she left. It didn't help cause when she left he was devastated.

From 'Girl'

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beachy said:

30yearfan said:

You know that's a really deep thought. She has said that Prince was like a father to her. I think that the intensity of their deep connection probably scared both of them. She said that they were so close that it was scary. She said they would wake up and realize they had dreamed the same dream. The lyrics to the song Girl (b side) talk about how frightened he was by how intensely he was feeling about her. And for those people who say how do you know the song is about her, she is actually singing/speaking on the song if you play it backwards. (I've heard it myself and it's verified on Princevault.com) I think she did worship him and it probably was a huge turn on for him. I think that when she became a Christian, which is around the time Orgasm came out, he might have been jealous that she loved something more than him. When they were together he probably cheated on her as a defense mechanism if that makes any sense. His greatest fear is that she would leave him as we can see in the powerful song WDC, perhaps subconsciously he probably wanted to beat her to the punch by cheating and protecting himself emotionally if she left. It didn't help cause when she left he was devastated.

From 'Girl'

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If I was anything else I'd be the water in your bath, darling

Wow I was just listening to that song from Prince The Hits/The B-sides disc 3

Goddess4Real said:

beachy said:

From 'Girl'

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If I was anything else I'd be the water in your bath, darling

Wow I was just listening to that song from Prince The Hits/The B-sides disc 3

You need to listen to the extended version. The hits B-sides only has the short version. The extended version is off da hook.

Goddess4Real said:

beachy said:

good point. I've been avoiding other threads because they are constantly talking AIDs, drug addict, running down his staff because they didn't make a stronger intervention, wanting to crucify anyone near him who didn't force him to comply with their ideas of what should have been done. It was so mindnumbingly negative, this is the only thread I could tolerate and find humor in. And this is the one he/she chooses to target? wonder if they read all 39+ pages lol. must have taken some time lol.

This one and the JW thread. Neither are particularly negative. Speaks to a personal agenda I guess.

[Edited 5/24/16 18:51pm]

Also in our own way we are also greiving for Vanity/Denise too First Bowie, Maurice White, Natalie Cole, Vanity and now Prince, it's been a crappy 2016 so far.

It has been a very rough year and not even half way through yet ! This thead has been therapeutic for me in making sense and mourning the loss; Much respect to the wives and others but when Prince died just 7 weeks after Vanity and yeah the dedications to her in his last shows - then yeah I was onto him grieving her loss and that stands to me

30yearfan said:

Goddess4Real said:

Wow I was just listening to that song from Prince The Hits/The B-sides disc 3

You need to listen to the extended version. The hits B-sides only has the short version. The extended version is off da hook.

The 7m 35s version?, got it thanks

Vashtix said:

Goddess4Real said:

Also in our own way we are also greiving for Vanity/Denise too First Bowie, Maurice White, Natalie Cole, Vanity and now Prince, it's been a crappy 2016 so far.

It has been a very rough year and not even half way through yet ! This thead has been therapeutic for me in making sense and mourning the loss; Much respect to the wives and others but when Prince died just 7 weeks after Vanity and yeah the dedications to her in his last shows - then yeah I was onto him grieving her loss and that stands to me

I agree and that is etched in my brain too, how close there passings were 2 months apart erie coincidence?

Goddess4Real said:

Vashtix said:

It has been a very rough year and not even half way through yet ! This thead has been therapeutic for me in making sense and mourning the loss; Much respect to the wives and others but when Prince died just 7 weeks after Vanity and yeah the dedications to her in his last shows - then yeah I was onto him grieving her loss and that stands to me

I agree and that is etched in my brain too, how close there passings were 2 months apart erie coincidence?

Very eerie and something to be noted and as we get older earlier days mean alot even for someone living in the present

Death is HUGE I never met Prince and I am grieving as if I spent every day with the man. I cannot even imagine how it feels to lose someone you once "loved deeply"

Goddess4Real said:

Vashtix said:

It has been a very rough year and not even half way through yet ! This thead has been therapeutic for me in making sense and mourning the loss; Much respect to the wives and others but when Prince died just 7 weeks after Vanity and yeah the dedications to her in his last shows - then yeah I was onto him grieving her loss and that stands to me

I agree and that is etched in my brain too, how close there passings were 2 months apart erie coincidence?

Either way, Prince knew what he was doing when he dedicated all those love songs to her. He could have easily stopped with LRC/DM and called it a day. He knew people would talk when he kept going. Could have stopped with Beautiful Ones. Could have stopped with the story. But no had to dedicate Adore too. lol He's been managing his PR for 40 years, he knew the effect this would have.

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Damn I even forgot the Ladder with the changed lyrics.

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I think he was deliberately constructing a legend like Burton and Taylor had. And yes they deliberately constructed theirs too. I've worked with celebrities, they know how to plant things in the public mind.

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30yearfan said:

Goddess4Real said:

Wow I was just listening to that song from Prince The Hits/The B-sides disc 3

You need to listen to the extended version. The hits B-sides only has the short version. The extended version is off da hook.

thanks for turning me onto this song, I love it!

What stands out to me which is beyond speculation or denial are his own words, 'we loved each other deeply'...etc..and how emotional he was, etc when is the last time Prince opened up so emotionally in public, someone posted that a handler had brought out kleenex to put by the piano for the first set, and another that his cries during 'Beautiful Ones' ('she knows about this one') were heart wrenching........Morris Day was there when it all happened and posted 'together again'......I think he was in a weakened state fighting flu and malnutrition but that losing her in a final way affected him, and his heart simply stopped ...tragic yet beautiful to know love can be that strong and everlasting...and that she and he remained in contact for ?33 years after the initial split? ..that he went after her and sent note to drop Sixx and take him back?...he didn't stay in contact even with his ex wives, and didn't try to get them to take him back......and that they pass 9 weeks apart?...I hope they are together and finally at peace~ love never dies <3

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beachy said:

Goddess4Real said:

I agree and that is etched in my brain too, how close there passings were 2 months apart erie coincidence?

Either way, Prince knew what he was doing when he dedicated all those love songs to her. He could have easily stopped with LRC/DM and called it a day. He knew people would talk when he kept going. Could have stopped with Beautiful Ones. Could have stopped with the story. But no had to dedicate Adore too. lol He's been managing his PR for 40 years, he knew the effect this would have.

Very True !

Vashtix said:

Goddess4Real said:

I agree and that is etched in my brain too, how close there passings were 2 months apart erie coincidence?

Very eerie and something to be noted and as we get older earlier days mean alot even for someone living in the present

Death is HUGE I never met Prince and I am grieving as if I spent every day with the man. I cannot even imagine how it feels to lose someone you once "loved deeply"

She was the inspiration for PR, and that is what launched him into stardom. That all by itself is HUGE. Then when you add the deep love he said he felt for her- that's burned into your soul. I'm a woman, but if I was a man, I would be utterly devastated. Death is final.