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Reply #720 posted 05/18/16 1:07pm

purplegirl00

kellyna said:



beachy said:




kellyna said:




You mean they broke up in August 1987 right? What was Vanity doing between 1990 and 1994 when she had her overdose, was she still doing movies, was she still signed with Motown and was she involved with anyone???




yeah I'm wondering the same thing. Gonna have to do some research and pull together another time line lol.



I know she said on Joan Rivers in 92 that she hadn't been working for awhile then all of a sudden after she got saved she has 4 films to do.



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You know what we need is access to her zillion dollar book. Anyone know anyone who has it?


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I also do some digging and see if I can find any clues about her.




One thing she said in the preaching video 2012- Leaving Vanity, was that when she first got saved, she still had a few incidents of fornication. She described how one day her pastor was preaching on the subject and she (the pastor) had the gift of being a prophet. The pastor said that there are "some people fornicating right now that come here (church)" looking at Denise/Vanity with contempt.
eek . If she was having incidents of fornication early on, obviously she must have been seeing someone. It would've been in that 1992-1994 timeframe. When did she date Billy Idol and John Stamos? She got saved in mid-late 1992. Then overdose 1994.
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Reply #721 posted 05/18/16 1:17pm

kellyna

purplegirl00 said:

kellyna said:

I also do some digging and see if I can find any clues about her.

One thing she said in the preaching video 2012- Leaving Vanity, was that when she first got saved, she still had a few incidents of fornication. She described how one day her pastor was preaching on the subject and she (the pastor) had the gift of being a prophet and She that there are "some people fornicating right that come here" looking at Vanity with contempt. eek . If she was having incidents of fornication early on, who were they with? She must have been seeing someone. It would've been in that 1992-1994 timeframe. She got saved in mid-late 1992, right? Then overdose 1994.

Are you sure about those dates because when I was reading various articles about her death they were all saying that she had a cocaine overdose in 1994, which she almost didn't survive and was in a coma for 3 days and that was where she said that she spoke with God and said he would save her if she gave up her past life as Vanity. I don't think she turned to religion till after the overdose and that was 1994. Or at least that what the articles were saying. See the link below:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3448774/Eighties-singer-Vanity-dies-hospital-aged-57-years-ill-health.html

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Reply #722 posted 05/18/16 1:25pm

purplegirl00

kellyna said:



purplegirl00 said:


kellyna said:



I also do some digging and see if I can find any clues about her.




One thing she said in the preaching video 2012- Leaving Vanity, was that when she first got saved, she still had a few incidents of fornication. She described how one day her pastor was preaching on the subject and she (the pastor) had the gift of being a prophet and She that there are "some people fornicating right that come here" looking at Vanity with contempt. eek . If she was having incidents of fornication early on, who were they with? She must have been seeing someone. It would've been in that 1992-1994 timeframe. She got saved in mid-late 1992, right? Then overdose 1994.


Are you sure about those dates because when I was reading various articles about her death they were all saying that she had a cocaine overdose in 1994, which she almost didn't survive and was in a coma for 3 days and that was where she said that she spoke with God and said he would save her if she gave up her past life as Vanity. I don't think she turned to religion till after the overdose and that was 1994. Or at least that what the articles were saying. See the link below:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3448774/Eighties-singer-Vanity-dies-hospital-aged-57-years-ill-health.html




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I'll have to go check. In of the preaching videos, she says that everyone thought she got saved after the overdose but she said somewhere,that it was a year before the overdose. I'll go look and post the link. The overdose caused her to go deeper in her faith, but the journey started earlier. The Joan Rivers show that is 3 parts is from 1992, right? If so, that would've been before the overdose.
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Reply #723 posted 05/18/16 1:29pm

kellyna

purplegirl00 said:

kellyna said:

Are you sure about those dates because when I was reading various articles about her death they were all saying that she had a cocaine overdose in 1994, which she almost didn't survive and was in a coma for 3 days and that was where she said that she spoke with God and said he would save her if she gave up her past life as Vanity. I don't think she turned to religion till after the overdose and that was 1994. Or at least that what the articles were saying. See the link below:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3448774/Eighties-singer-Vanity-dies-hospital-aged-57-years-ill-health.html

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I'll have to go check. In of the preaching videos, she says that everyone thought she got saved after the overdose but she said somewhere,that it was a year before the overdose. I'll go look and post the link. The overdose caused her to go deeper in her faith, but the journey started earlier. The Joan Rivers show that is 3 parts is from 1992, right? If so, that would've been before the overdose.

Well she really didn't "get saved" during that that first attempt if she was still using so much cocaine right? Just saying.....

Maybe that why the Minster was kind of calling her out because she knew she really wasn't embracing the whole "saved concept"?

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Reply #724 posted 05/18/16 1:33pm

GeniusLuv

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Goddess4Real said:

kellyna said:

Okay I get confused trying to keep track of all the women - who was Susannah? That's not Wendy's twin sister is it? Do we know how Prince met her? Is she some type of musician?

Yuup Wendy's twin sister, a memeber of The Family, very talented and beautiful. Several years ago she had a falling out with Prince because like with The Time, Prince wouldn't let them use the name The Family when they wanted to do some gigs and record, they go by the name of fDeluxe. That's a shame I loved their album and their version on Nothing Compares To U. Here is some more info about her https://en.wikipedia.org/...ah_Melvoin or https://twitter.com/TheFd...th_replies I had a crush on St Paul back in the day (who was also briefly a memeber of The Time in Purple Rain film). I love their Screams of Passion video too.

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I hope i don't affend anyone but.....she is no Vanity!

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I've never really seen a good photo of her and can't understand what Prince saw in her, besides talent possibly, he usually goes for the hotties!!! She wasn't the sexy, feminine, exotic, natural beauty Denise Matthews was..she's okay, but i really don't see HOW she was Prince's type.

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I know she is a musician and i am sure she is a good person. Just surprised by her is all.

''The beautiful ones they hurt you every tiiiiime....''

yes RIP BEAUTIFUL ONES: Prince & Denise 2016
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Reply #725 posted 05/18/16 1:41pm

purplegirl00

kellyna said:



purplegirl00 said:


kellyna said:



Are you sure about those dates because when I was reading various articles about her death they were all saying that she had a cocaine overdose in 1994, which she almost didn't survive and was in a coma for 3 days and that was where she said that she spoke with God and said he would save her if she gave up her past life as Vanity. I don't think she turned to religion till after the overdose and that was 1994. Or at least that what the articles were saying. See the link below:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3448774/Eighties-singer-Vanity-dies-hospital-aged-57-years-ill-health.html





[Edited 5/18/16 13:19pm]



I'll have to go check. In of the preaching videos, she says that everyone thought she got saved after the overdose but she said somewhere,that it was a year before the overdose. I'll go look and post the link. The overdose caused her to go deeper in her faith, but the journey started earlier. The Joan Rivers show that is 3 parts is from 1992, right? If so, that would've been before the overdose.


Well she really didn't "get saved" during that that first attempt if she was still using so much cocaine right? Just saying.....



Maybe that why the Minster was kind of calling her out because she knew she really wasn't embracing the whole "saved concept"?

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Yes, definitely agree. Her journey started in 1992 but she wasn't truly embracing the saved concept until after the overdose in 1994.
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Reply #726 posted 05/18/16 2:20pm

kellyna

GeniusLuv said:

Goddess4Real said:

Yuup Wendy's twin sister, a memeber of The Family, very talented and beautiful. Several years ago she had a falling out with Prince because like with The Time, Prince wouldn't let them use the name The Family when they wanted to do some gigs and record, they go by the name of fDeluxe. That's a shame I loved their album and their version on Nothing Compares To U. Here is some more info about her https://en.wikipedia.org/...ah_Melvoin or https://twitter.com/TheFd...th_replies I had a crush on St Paul back in the day (who was also briefly a memeber of The Time in Purple Rain film). I love their Screams of Passion video too.

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I hope i don't affend anyone but.....she is no Vanity!

.

I've never really seen a good photo of her and can't understand what Prince saw in her, besides talent possibly, he usually goes for the hotties!!! She wasn't the sexy, feminine, exotic, natural beauty Denise Matthews was..she's okay, but i really don't see HOW she was Prince's type.

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I know she is a musician and i am sure she is a good person. Just surprised by her is all.

I totally agree with you! But as you note maybe part of the attraction for Prince was her musical ability?!!

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Reply #727 posted 05/18/16 2:45pm

kellyna

Guys,

Check it out. On another thread they were posting photos of Prince from his last show in Atlanta and how sad the expression was on his face. One person noted that he was singing "Purple Rain" at that moment. I'm convinced that the music from Purple Rain was written about Vanity. Wonder what he was thinking or remembering at the moment he was singing this song.

https://www.facebook.com/thepurplestream/photos/a.500761616730057.1073741830.496769827129236/691910770948473/?type=3&theater

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Reply #728 posted 05/18/16 3:05pm

purplegirl00

kellyna said:

Guys,

Check it out. On another thread they were posting photos of Prince from his last show in Atlanta and how sad the expression was on his face. One person noted that he was singing "Purple Rain" at that moment. I'm convinced that the music from Purple Rain was written about Vanity. Wonder what he was thinking or remembering at the moment he was singing this song.

https://www.facebook.com/thepurplestream/photos/a.500761616730057.1073741830.496769827129236/691910770948473/?type=3&theater

I've been saying it all along this thread. The Purple Rain movie and music was about them and their story. She helped him script the basic story line. He looks to be looking up at heaven maybe? Maybe he is reflecting on how long before he can go there himself? Or maybe he thinking about Denise watching over him?

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Reply #729 posted 05/18/16 3:43pm

beachy

purplegirl00 said:

I just heard/watched the "I Love You But I Don't Trust You Anymore" Montreux version and wow! eek. What emotion he had there. After he sings this lyric,"I would never pick the flower of my favorite protege" he says, "It's better now." I wonder what he means? What is better now? Did anyone catch that? He spoke it like the 80's comment.

I remember meeting you here in the good old days (The 80s)

I would never pick the flower of my favorite protege (It's better now.)

Maybe if I would have you would not treat me this way

You tricked me but you will not anymore.

I love you, but I don't trust you anymore.

==

I don't get it either

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Reply #730 posted 05/18/16 3:43pm

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WOW he looked so sad in that, poor Prince, you can tell he was holding back the tears sad

And just to clarify..Nikki and Vanity were not togther until 1997, Nikki had like 3 or 4 wives...he was married to someone else (playboy playmate) until 1996. They got married in 1989 and had 3 kids. Vanity and Nikki were together for a few years at best.

''The beautiful ones they hurt you every tiiiiime....''

yes RIP BEAUTIFUL ONES: Prince & Denise 2016
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Reply #731 posted 05/18/16 3:47pm

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beachy said:

purplegirl00 said:

I just heard/watched the "I Love You But I Don't Trust You Anymore" Montreux version and wow! eek. What emotion he had there. After he sings this lyric,"I would never pick the flower of my favorite protege" he says, "It's better now." I wonder what he means? What is better now? Did anyone catch that? He spoke it like the 80's comment.

I remember meeting you here in the good old days (The 80s)

I would never pick the flower of my favorite protege (It's better now.)

Maybe if I would have you would not treat me this way

You tricked me but you will not anymore.

I love you, but I don't trust you anymore.

==

I don't get it either

cool I will put my psycho therapy cap back on again....

Like him ''picking'' the flower of his favorite girl (hurting her) he is saying things are better now between them...the pain is gone, the difficult years. Thats what i got when i read the lyrics..things got better..possibly as the years went on, maturity, aging, new paths, spirituality...many things contribute to people improving in life.....

.

When was this written?

''The beautiful ones they hurt you every tiiiiime....''

yes RIP BEAUTIFUL ONES: Prince & Denise 2016
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Reply #732 posted 05/18/16 4:05pm

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beachy said:

Lmao you can hear Poem online here if you don't have ivault:

http://tidido.com/a35184372117695/al5432a719196dee63468c0474/t5433f103196dee9e1494e72e

That's two albums of the early 90s now that were inspired at least in part by Vanity. The other one being Diamonds and Pearls. I guess they were playing the long game.

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faint

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Is that Vanity?????

''The beautiful ones they hurt you every tiiiiime....''

yes RIP BEAUTIFUL ONES: Prince & Denise 2016
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Reply #733 posted 05/18/16 4:06pm

beachy

GeniusLuv said:

WOW he looked so sad in that, poor Prince, you can tell he was holding back the tears sad

And just to clarify..Nikki and Vanity were not togther until 1997, Nikki had like 3 or 4 wives...he was married to someone else (playboy playmate) until 1996. They got married in 1989 and had 3 kids. Vanity and Nikki were together for a few years at best.

in his diary he says they were together NYE end of 1986. I believe she was seeing him earlier than that, it was not their first date. Your date is a decade later.

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Reply #734 posted 05/18/16 4:08pm

beachy

If you want to see video of him at his last concert there's a little clip here where he's playing Purple Rain but the photo is a better closeup.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/tvshowbiz/video-1283393/Prince-performs-live-concert-ahead-medical-emergency.html

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Reply #735 posted 05/18/16 4:12pm

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beachy said:

purplegirl00 said:

Lunch break from work- off to watch/ listen now as well as Miami Vice and the other clip.

I was looking at Vanity's lyrics to "Under the Influence"- my favorite song and it looks like it's about Prince. "I must be Under The Influence..of a four-letter word on my mind..You got me Under The Influence..and I'll do anything anytime..I must be Under The Influence..of a love that gets sweeter than wine..You got me Under The Influence..and my willpower's so hard to find".

I know she was doing hardcore drugs at this time, but were she and Nikki done by the time this came out?


Nikki and Vanity got together in 1986 and broke up in August 1997 and were off and on for a few months after that.

I was referring to this post...red bolded type smile

''The beautiful ones they hurt you every tiiiiime....''

yes RIP BEAUTIFUL ONES: Prince & Denise 2016
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Reply #736 posted 05/18/16 4:12pm

beachy

GeniusLuv said:

beachy said:

Lmao you can hear Poem online here if you don't have ivault:

http://tidido.com/a35184372117695/al5432a719196dee63468c0474/t5433f103196dee9e1494e72e

That's two albums of the early 90s now that were inspired at least in part by Vanity. The other one being Diamonds and Pearls. I guess they were playing the long game.

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faint

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Is that Vanity?????

Yes its the first version of Orgasm. lol

Also the guitar solo is from 1981, he met Vanity in January 1981 at the AMAs. She was with Rick James. They were off and on for a year (and he was seeing Moonsie in the summer). Then she went on tour with him for Controversy and moved in with him in Minneapols.

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The more I read about him it seems he would tell all these women or their friends that he wanted to marry them and/or would buy them a ring. Quite the pickup artist.

I found this excerpt from Vanity's book here on the org. Apparently there is very little in it about the other men, and only a chapter and a half about Prince. but this is her version of events (and her writing style)

.

"MY FIRST MEETING WITH PRINCE....AMERICAN MUSIC AWARDS

"AND THERE STOOD A YOUNG MAN, AWAITING MY SMILE, WITH A SHORT FISHING LINE AND A VERY LARGE HOOK IN HIS HAND. AFTER HE EXECUTED AND I DIGESTED HIS MOST STRANGE, INTELLECTUALLY ARTICULATIVE, POETICALLY ASTOUNDING, VERBAL QUEST FOR COMMUNICATION, I YEILDED.I CAN'T PRETEND IT WAS NO SURPRISE WHAT TOOK PLACE WITHIN THE MORE THAN MINUTE MEETING WHICH HE CLEVERY CONFISCATED AND I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED.

"CAMERAS WERE HOVERING ABOUT, HONING IN, INTERROGATING FOR IMPRESSIVE SUBJECT MATERIAL. I, SOMEWHAT CONFUSED - MUCH LIKE THE GREAT FALL OF BABYLON - FROM THE SEMI-AUTOMATIC BOMBASTIC EXPLOSIAN OF QUESTIONS ON MY RIGHT, BUT I RECALL ONLY ONE THAT MATTERED? WHO IS THE LOVELY LADY PRINCE? WAS HE REALLY SPEAKING OF ME? GRABBING TIGHT MY HAND AND YANKING ME TO HIS SIDE HE REPLIED DEFIANTLY, "THIS IS MY WIFE.".........................."

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Reply #737 posted 05/18/16 4:14pm

purplegirl00

GeniusLuv said:

beachy said:

Lmao you can hear Poem online here if you don't have ivault:

http://tidido.com/a35184372117695/al5432a719196dee63468c0474/t5433f103196dee9e1494e72e

That's two albums of the early 90s now that were inspired at least in part by Vanity. The other one being Diamonds and Pearls. I guess they were playing the long game.

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faint

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Is that Vanity?????

nod lol lol I listened to the clip while I was working and I was not able to continue listening. My line of work requires a lot of reading and concentration. lol lol Sounds like the same cut from Vibrator/ Orgasm? Wasn't he married to Mayte at the time of the release of this? WHY didn't he just record Mayte?

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Reply #738 posted 05/18/16 4:14pm

beachy

GeniusLuv said:

beachy said:

Nikki and Vanity got together in 1986 and broke up in August 1997 and were off and on for a few months after that.

I was referring to this post...red bolded type smile

oops my typo sorry, i had it right in the timeline though. They got together in 1986 and broke up August 1987 and were off and on for a few months.

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Reply #739 posted 05/18/16 4:16pm

purplegirl00

GeniusLuv said:

beachy said:

I remember meeting you here in the good old days (The 80s)

I would never pick the flower of my favorite protege (It's better now.)

Maybe if I would have you would not treat me this way

You tricked me but you will not anymore.

I love you, but I don't trust you anymore.

==

I don't get it either

cool I will put my psycho therapy cap back on again....

Like him ''picking'' the flower of his favorite girl (hurting her) he is saying things are better now between them...the pain is gone, the difficult years. Thats what i got when i read the lyrics..things got better..possibly as the years went on, maturity, aging, new paths, spirituality...many things contribute to people improving in life.....

.

When was this written?

Your psycho therapy assessment of the lyric, sounds good to me! We need to start a fan fiction somewhere! cool

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Reply #740 posted 05/18/16 4:26pm

purplegirl00

beachy said:

GeniusLuv said:

faint

.

Is that Vanity?????

Yes its the first version of Orgasm. lol

Also the guitar solo is from 1981, he met Vanity in January 1981 at the AMAs. She was with Rick James. They were off and on for a year (and he was seeing Moonsie in the summer). Then she went on tour with him for Controversy and moved in with him in Minneapols.

.

The more I read about him it seems he would tell all these women or their friends that he wanted to marry them and/or would buy them a ring. Quite the pickup artist.

I found this excerpt from Vanity's book here on the org. Apparently there is very little in it about the other men, and only a chapter and a half about Prince. but this is her version of events (and her writing style)

.

"MY FIRST MEETING WITH PRINCE....AMERICAN MUSIC AWARDS

"AND THERE STOOD A YOUNG MAN, AWAITING MY SMILE, WITH A SHORT FISHING LINE AND A VERY LARGE HOOK IN HIS HAND. AFTER HE EXECUTED AND I DIGESTED HIS MOST STRANGE, INTELLECTUALLY ARTICULATIVE, POETICALLY ASTOUNDING, VERBAL QUEST FOR COMMUNICATION, I YEILDED.I CAN'T PRETEND IT WAS NO SURPRISE WHAT TOOK PLACE WITHIN THE MORE THAN MINUTE MEETING WHICH HE CLEVERY CONFISCATED AND I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED.

"CAMERAS WERE HOVERING ABOUT, HONING IN, INTERROGATING FOR IMPRESSIVE SUBJECT MATERIAL. I, SOMEWHAT CONFUSED - MUCH LIKE THE GREAT FALL OF BABYLON - FROM THE SEMI-AUTOMATIC BOMBASTIC EXPLOSIAN OF QUESTIONS ON MY RIGHT, BUT I RECALL ONLY ONE THAT MATTERED? WHO IS THE LOVELY LADY PRINCE? WAS HE REALLY SPEAKING OF ME? GRABBING TIGHT MY HAND AND YANKING ME TO HIS SIDE HE REPLIED DEFIANTLY, "THIS IS MY WIFE.".........................."

eek eek HOT DIGGITY DOG! Sounds like a confirmation of the "bathroom meeting" biggrin

"THIS IS MY WIFE". batting eyes heart

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Reply #741 posted 05/18/16 4:41pm

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purplegirl00 said:

beachy said:

Yes its the first version of Orgasm. lol

Also the guitar solo is from 1981, he met Vanity in January 1981 at the AMAs. She was with Rick James. They were off and on for a year (and he was seeing Moonsie in the summer). Then she went on tour with him for Controversy and moved in with him in Minneapols.

.

The more I read about him it seems he would tell all these women or their friends that he wanted to marry them and/or would buy them a ring. Quite the pickup artist.

I found this excerpt from Vanity's book here on the org. Apparently there is very little in it about the other men, and only a chapter and a half about Prince. but this is her version of events (and her writing style)

.

"MY FIRST MEETING WITH PRINCE....AMERICAN MUSIC AWARDS

"AND THERE STOOD A YOUNG MAN, AWAITING MY SMILE, WITH A SHORT FISHING LINE AND A VERY LARGE HOOK IN HIS HAND. AFTER HE EXECUTED AND I DIGESTED HIS MOST STRANGE, INTELLECTUALLY ARTICULATIVE, POETICALLY ASTOUNDING, VERBAL QUEST FOR COMMUNICATION, I YEILDED.I CAN'T PRETEND IT WAS NO SURPRISE WHAT TOOK PLACE WITHIN THE MORE THAN MINUTE MEETING WHICH HE CLEVERY CONFISCATED AND I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED.

"CAMERAS WERE HOVERING ABOUT, HONING IN, INTERROGATING FOR IMPRESSIVE SUBJECT MATERIAL. I, SOMEWHAT CONFUSED - MUCH LIKE THE GREAT FALL OF BABYLON - FROM THE SEMI-AUTOMATIC BOMBASTIC EXPLOSIAN OF QUESTIONS ON MY RIGHT, BUT I RECALL ONLY ONE THAT MATTERED? WHO IS THE LOVELY LADY PRINCE? WAS HE REALLY SPEAKING OF ME? GRABBING TIGHT MY HAND AND YANKING ME TO HIS SIDE HE REPLIED DEFIANTLY, "THIS IS MY WIFE.".........................."

eek eek HOT DIGGITY DOG! Sounds like a confirmation of the "bathroom meeting" biggrin

"THIS IS MY WIFE". batting eyes heart

Theres a Donnie Simpson interview from just when Purple Rain broke and she looked so pretty in this interview...anyway, she said she met Prince at the AMA, i believe in 1980 and she said a women came up to her and asked her ''if she would take him to the bathroom....'' he wanted Vanity to take him cuz he didn't know where it was??? Or so he said...lol...she told Donnie that she said ''NO!'' and thats how the entire thing started..she was laughing about it..it was funny the way she told it, i guess they eventuslly ended up in the bathroom together. Its on You Tube look it up lol

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Another story is they exchanged coats in the bathroom and HE was naked under his..but i never saw or heard her say that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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''The beautiful ones they hurt you every tiiiiime....''

yes RIP BEAUTIFUL ONES: Prince & Denise 2016
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Reply #742 posted 05/18/16 4:42pm

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beachy said:

Lmao you can hear Poem online here if you don't have ivault:

http://tidido.com/a35184372117695/al5432a719196dee63468c0474/t5433f103196dee9e1494e72e

That's two albums of the early 90s now that were inspired at least in part by Vanity. The other one being Diamonds and Pearls. I guess they were playing the long game.

[Edited 5/18/16 11:45am]

Thanks for the link I haven't heard Poem in ages. nuts Come is a great album thumbs up!

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
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Reply #743 posted 05/18/16 4:44pm

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beachy said:

Goddess4Real said:

Who knows he was juggling alot of women eg. Ron Moss's wife, Anna, Sherilyn and Troy pimp2 fallinluv tease nutty

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weren't they a few years later? late 80's?

Nope 1984 onwards pimp

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Reply #744 posted 05/18/16 4:46pm

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beachy said:

GeniusLuv said:

I was referring to this post...red bolded type smile

oops my typo sorry, i had it right in the timeline though. They got together in 1986 and broke up August 1987 and were off and on for a few months.

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Thats what i remember reading too biggrin

''The beautiful ones they hurt you every tiiiiime....''

yes RIP BEAUTIFUL ONES: Prince & Denise 2016
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Reply #745 posted 05/18/16 4:47pm

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GeniusLuv said:

beachy said:

Lmao you can hear Poem online here if you don't have ivault:

http://tidido.com/a35184372117695/al5432a719196dee63468c0474/t5433f103196dee9e1494e72e

That's two albums of the early 90s now that were inspired at least in part by Vanity. The other one being Diamonds and Pearls. I guess they were playing the long game.

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faint

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Is that Vanity?????

Yuuuuuuuuuup shocked lol

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
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Reply #746 posted 05/18/16 4:54pm

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purplegirl00 said:

eek eek HOT DIGGITY DOG! Sounds like a confirmation of the "bathroom meeting" biggrin

"THIS IS MY WIFE". batting eyes heart

Theres a Donnie Simpson interview from just when Purple Rain broke and she looked so pretty in this interview...anyway, she said she met Prince at the AMA, i believe in 1980 and she said a women came up to her and asked her ''if she would take him to the bathroom....'' he wanted Vanity to take him cuz he didn't know where it was??? Or so he said...lol...she told Donnie that she said ''NO!'' and thats how the entire thing started..she was laughing about it..it was funny the way she told it, i guess they eventuslly ended up in the bathroom together. Its on You Tube look it up lol

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Another story is they exchanged coats in the bathroom and HE was naked under his..but i never saw or heard her say that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sounds like they maybe aftethe coat exchange in the bathroom happened afterall and they came out of there with her as his "wife" nod lol lol I did see that interview with Donnie Simpson. Wasn't that the one where she has a stuffed gorilla with her. I always wondered what meant. Didn't Apples call him "king kong" in the movie? I wonder if thats what she called Prince.

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Reply #747 posted 05/18/16 4:59pm

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purplegirl00 said:

GeniusLuv said:

faint

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Is that Vanity?????

nod lol lol I listened to the clip while I was working and I was not able to continue listening. My line of work requires a lot of reading and concentration. lol lol Sounds like the same cut from Vibrator/ Orgasm? Wasn't he married to Mayte at the time of the release of this? WHY didn't he just record Mayte?

Here are the events which i have found sources for. Feel free to give me more facts, especially if there is some real source.

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July 1990 Prince meets Mayte in europe and starts a penpal relationship. She is 16. The same year he meets Carmen Electra, invites her to PP and starts creating her image. He has a brief relationship with Kim Basinger.

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summer 1991 Vanity gets saved

Oct 1 1991 Prince releases album Diamonds and Pearls, the name inspired by Vanity's art which she gave him.He goes on tour with Carmen as his opening act. He is also seeing Troy Beyer and she is visiting him. Mayte has joined tour as a dancer and is travelling with him.

Dec 1991 begins recording the symbol album

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1992 Vanity goes on talk shows (Hard Copy, Joan Rivers) talking about leaving her name and lifestyle behind. She gets several films to do and accepts them. She is very negative about the lifestyle she associates with Prince and says he controlled her financially forcing her to do V6 his way. Vanities all is vanity is what she quotes from Ecclesiastes. She says she was so far into drug addiction and seeing psychics that demons were after her around her bed and she was levitating.

October 13, 1992 - Prince releases the Symbol album

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2 Jan 1993 Prince records "Dark"

early 1993 Prince creates the track 'Poem' out of words from Song of Solomon, Vanity's recordings and a guitar solo from 1981. (not released yet)

June 7, 1993 - Prince renounces his name and adopts the symbol

summer 1993 Prince starts seeing Nona Gaye who is 18. Mayte is 19 had come to live with Prince. He is also seeing Carmen.

September 10, 1993 Prince releases The Hits album

1993 Prince records the Sacrifice of the Undertaker

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Jan 1994 LA earthquake spooks Vanity and she moves north to SF area

1994 Prince owned nightclubs in MPLS, Miami Beach and Los Angeles (Glam Slam). Prince would go and play at them and Mayte would be his partner dancing on the stage, just the 2 of them. They looked like a couple.

April 1994 Prince broadcasts The Beautiful Experience in the UK, starring Nona and Mayte

1994 Vanity has a relapse and ODs this time it was life threatening. 3 days in hospital and she nearly dies. She had a stroke, a heart attack, lost her hearing and eyesight, and the use of both kidneys. Prince sends dozens of purple roses with 1 white rose. He includes a picture of himself since he can't be there. He prays for her a whole day. She eventually recovers and this time completely leaves Hollywood behind and fully commits to Jesus.

Spring-Summer 1994 Prince edits "Poem' to create 'Orgasm'

Aug 1994 Prince releases the album Come. the song 'Poem' has been chopped up and distributed as segues between the tracks of the album and the song Orgasm is placed at the end, with liner notes "she knows". The whole album thus ends with Vanity's moans and Prince's words 'I love you'. It is reported he did this to help her financially. Finally his on/off relationship with Carmen ends

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March 1995 She marries Anthony Smith in March after knowing him a month. They are featured in Jet on the cover in April. It is reported that Prince is shocked. early 1995 is also the time that Prince is said to develop a full blown romance with Mayte (per Hahn's book Possesed).

September 26, 1995 Prince releases The Gold Experience

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early 1996 Prince and Mayte are engaged. at this time he stops seeing Nona.

Feb 14 1996 Prince marries Mayte who is pregnant.

Early April 1996 - Prince records Dinner With Delores, supposedly written about a dinner he had recently with Vanity that turned out bad

April 21 1996 - Prince is found unconscious, OD'd on aspirin and wine, rushed to ER

July 9, 1996 Prince releases Chaos and Disorder album

Autumn 1996 -Prince records Dionne, One Of Your Tears

1996 Vanity divorces Smith after abuse

Oct 1996 Prince's son is born with birth defects and lives one week. Prince becomes withdrawn. His album Emancipation comes out at same time and he is forced to do publicity.Vanity remarks publicly that the songs sound dark and she is worried for him. He is quoted in a magazine interview that everything is fine, that his marriage is good, everyone thought he would marry Vanity. He says that like her, he is now connected to his spirit.

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1997 Prince tours alot, playing 100 nights and is almost never home with Mayte. At some time during his tour Vanity goes to a Prince concert and meets (?) with him.

1997 Vanity has a kidney transplant.

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mid 1998 Prince buys the Marbella mansion for Mayte and exiles her there. He promotes Mani to PA and starts an affair with her.

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spring 1999 - Prince records Eye Love U, But Eye Don't Trust You Anymore, and Strange but True

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Reply #748 posted 05/18/16 5:04pm

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purplegirl00 said:

GeniusLuv said:

Theres a Donnie Simpson interview from just when Purple Rain broke and she looked so pretty in this interview...anyway, she said she met Prince at the AMA, i believe in 1980 and she said a women came up to her and asked her ''if she would take him to the bathroom....'' he wanted Vanity to take him cuz he didn't know where it was??? Or so he said...lol...she told Donnie that she said ''NO!'' and thats how the entire thing started..she was laughing about it..it was funny the way she told it, i guess they eventuslly ended up in the bathroom together. Its on You Tube look it up lol

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Another story is they exchanged coats in the bathroom and HE was naked under his..but i never saw or heard her say that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Edited 5/18/16 16:44pm]

Sounds like they maybe aftethe coat exchange in the bathroom happened afterall and they came out of there with her as his "wife" nod lol lol I did see that interview with Donnie Simpson. Wasn't that the one where she has a stuffed gorilla with her. I always wondered what meant. Didn't Apples call him "king kong" in the movie? I wonder if thats what she called Prince.

In the original script for Purple Rain Vanity calls him King Kong. Apples was just her replacement. She was good, but Vanity was the original, the blueprint.

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Reply #749 posted 05/18/16 5:06pm

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purplegirl00 said:

GeniusLuv said:

Theres a Donnie Simpson interview from just when Purple Rain broke and she looked so pretty in this interview...anyway, she said she met Prince at the AMA, i believe in 1980 and she said a women came up to her and asked her ''if she would take him to the bathroom....'' he wanted Vanity to take him cuz he didn't know where it was??? Or so he said...lol...she told Donnie that she said ''NO!'' and thats how the entire thing started..she was laughing about it..it was funny the way she told it, i guess they eventuslly ended up in the bathroom together. Its on You Tube look it up lol

.

Another story is they exchanged coats in the bathroom and HE was naked under his..but i never saw or heard her say that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Edited 5/18/16 16:44pm]

Sounds like they maybe aftethe coat exchange in the bathroom happened afterall and they came out of there with her as his "wife" nod lol lol I did see that interview with Donnie Simpson. Wasn't that the one where she has a stuffed gorilla with her. I always wondered what meant. Didn't Apples call him "king kong" in the movie? I wonder if thats what she called Prince.

Yeahb that was such a great interview..she was perfectly stunning and funny and yes had a toy gorilla and wore a coat of gorilla as well nod

''The beautiful ones they hurt you every tiiiiime....''

yes RIP BEAUTIFUL ONES: Prince & Denise 2016
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