kellyna said:

Okay I get confused trying to keep track of all the women - who was Susannah? That's not Wendy's twin sister is it? Do we know how Prince met her? Is she some type of musician?

Yuup Wendy's twin sister, a memeber of The Family, very talented and beautiful. Several years ago she had a falling out with Prince because like with The Time, Prince wouldn't let them use the name The Family when they wanted to do some gigs and record, they go by the name of fDeluxe. That's a shame I loved their album and their version on Nothing Compares To U. Here is some more info about her https://en.wikipedia.org/...ah_Melvoin or https://twitter.com/TheFd...th_replies I had a crush on St Paul back in the day (who was also briefly a memeber of The Time in Purple Rain film). I love their Screams of Passion video too.

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Goddess4Real said:

I'm so sorry about the loss of your friend, 43 is young! Yes, Vanity's situation was pretty grim and prolonged dialysis took its toll.

Goddess4Real said:

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said: Perhaps it is about Susannah but maybe there were others mixed in that time frame as well.

Who knows he was juggling alot of women eg. Ron Moss's wife, Anna, Sherilyn and Troy

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weren't they a few years later? late 80's?

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said:

so the question burning in my mind now is since she had the gofundme page up for medical expenses, I assume she needed surgery or treatment for the latest health issues. Did she die because she couldn't afford the treatment? Or because her body was not well enough for the treatment? Its sad that her last days had money stress.

This is a burning question. There are treatments such chemotherapy and possibly others available for the condition she had. I don't know if her body was just too far gone to benefit from those. She did not say that publicly but I suspect that's what happened. As far as the gofundme account that never reached the goal, again Prince did things on the DL and I have a suspicion (I could be wrong), that he helped there and even possibly with other expenses. I could be wrong, I have no proof.

yeah we know that when a member of his band would have a death in the family he would pay all the expenses. unless they were on the outs totally i bet he stepped in or at least offered to help.

Here's the 1987 episode of Miami Vice which Vanity was in, as a hooker, in case anyone wants to see it. She's not bad!

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http://www.hulu.com/watch/51406
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Fun Fact:

My brother is in this episode!! At this time my brother lived in Miami and played a cop on Miami Vice. You can see him in the scene that begins at 42:43. He's the guy in the blue shirt with red hair that is sitting just to the right of Sonny Crockett. lol

beachy said:

I'm gonna have to go watch. That is cool about your brother! I saw an episode of Booker/21 Jump Street and she was on with Richard Greico.

https://www.youtube.com/w...pUS-YWI5Nw
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purplegirl00 said:

beachy said:

Here's the 1987 episode of Miami Vice which Vanity was in, as a hooker, in case anyone wants to see it. She's not bad!

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http://www.hulu.com/watch/51406
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Fun Fact:

My brother is in this episode!! At this time my brother lived in Miami and played a cop on Miami Vice. You can see him in the scene that begins at 42:43. He's the guy in the blue shirt with red hair that is sitting just to the right of Sonny Crockett. lol

I'm gonna have to go watch. That is cool about your brother! I saw an episode of Booker/21 Jump Street and she was on with Richard Greico. https://www.youtube.com/w...pUS-YWI5Nw [Edited 5/18/16 7:52am]

Her jacket in that clip is the sh*t!!

beachy said:

Agreed! Her acting was pretty decent for the short clip. This episode is from 1989, I believe. Richard Greico was smokin' HOT!

Here's something hilarious.

In this interview from 1992 Vanity is quoting scripture disavowing the name Vanity, "Vanity, all is vanity" from Ecclesiastes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKQb9YOkc6g

In early 1993 Prince records 'Poem' which you can find in iVault. This uses Vanity's orgasmic moans from Vibrator and he speaks lines from Bible verses from the Song of Solomon all about love and sex.

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He doesn't release that version but chops it up for the segues on the album 'Come' in 1994, and that recording is also re-edited in to the song Orgasm, ending with the phrase 'I love you'.

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LMAO Prince was telling her that sex was Biblical and trying to seduce her at the same time.

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Think he was seriously trying to get her back? or was he just playing with her?

beachy said:

Yep, sounds like he was saying,"fine, you want to go all Biblical on me, I'll play." . I think he was playfully serious at trying to get her back. If that makes sense?

Maybe he added the orgasmic moans to remind her and say, "it was REAL good, are you sure you wanna give that up?"
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purplegirl00 said:

beachy said:

Here's something hilarious.

In this interview from 1992 Vanity is quoting scripture disavowing the name Vanity, "Vanity, all is vanity" from Ecclesiastes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKQb9YOkc6g

In early 1993 Prince records 'Poem' which you can find in iVault. This uses Vanity's orgasmic moans from Vibrator and he speaks lines from Bible verses from the Song of Solomon all about love and sex.

..

He doesn't release that version but chops it up for the segues on the album 'Come' in 1994, and that recording is also re-edited in to the song Orgasm, ending with the phrase 'I love you'.

.

LMAO Prince was telling her that sex was Biblical and trying to seduce her at the same time.

.

Think he was seriously trying to get her back? or was he just playing with her?

Yep, sounds like he was saying,"fine, you want to go all Biblical on me, I'll play." . I think he was playfully serious at trying to get her back. If that makes sense?

yeah makes sense, but I think he was at his most orgiastic at this time no? Carmen electra, Mayte, Paula Abdul and who knows who else was living with him.

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In the clip the lady narrator shades the hell out of Prince "The tiny rock star, Prince." LMAO

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said:

Here's something hilarious.

In this interview from 1992 Vanity is quoting scripture disavowing the name Vanity, "Vanity, all is vanity" from Ecclesiastes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKQb9YOkc6g

In early 1993 Prince records 'Poem' which you can find in iVault. This uses Vanity's orgasmic moans from Vibrator and he speaks lines from Bible verses from the Song of Solomon all about love and sex.

..

He doesn't release that version but chops it up for the segues on the album 'Come' in 1994, and that recording is also re-edited in to the song Orgasm, ending with the phrase 'I love you'.

.

LMAO Prince was telling her that sex was Biblical and trying to seduce her at the same time.

.

Think he was seriously trying to get her back? or was he just playing with her?

Yep, sounds like he was saying,"fine, you want to go all Biblical on me, I'll play." . I think he was playfully serious at trying to get her back. If that makes sense? Maybe he added the orgasmic moans to remind her and say, "it was REAL good, are you sure you wanna give that up?" [Edited 5/18/16 9:11am]

I know right? man he would have so tempted me if I was Vanity I would have thought twice about turning Prince down.

Here's the movie

which stars Gene Simmons, yes Gene Simmons worked with Vanity!

This also star John Stamos who said the first day on set Vanity put her hand down the front of his pants lol. She was real fast back then, just like LRC said!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-RaAfQQHsM

beachy said:

purplegirl00 said:

beachy said: Yep, sounds like he was saying,"fine, you want to go all Biblical on me, I'll play." . I think he was playfully serious at trying to get her back. If that makes sense? Maybe he added the orgasmic moans to remind her and say, "it was REAL good, are you sure you wanna give that up?" [Edited 5/18/16 9:11am]

I know right? man he would have so tempted me if I was Vanity I would have thought twice about turning Prince down.

Here's the movie

Never Too Young To Die (1986)

which stars Gene Simmons, yes Gene Simmons worked with Vanity!

This also star John Stamos who said the first day on set Vanity put her hand down the front of his pants lol. She was real fast back then, just like LRC said!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-RaAfQQHsM

Lunch break from work- off to watch/ listen now as well as Miami Vice and the other clip.

I was looking at Vanity's lyrics to "Under the Influence"- my favorite song and it looks like it's about Prince. "I must be Under The Influence..of a four-letter word on my mind..You got me Under The Influence..and I'll do anything anytime..I must be Under The Influence..of a love that gets sweeter than wine..You got me Under The Influence..and my willpower's so hard to find".

I know she was doing hardcore drugs at this time, but were she and Nikki done by the time this came out?

beachy said:

Hahaha... The tiny rockstar! She said it like nothing. Poor guy got teased for his height all the time.

I'm off a lunch break and can't access youtube at work, but I'll definitely check it out later. Beachy how cool that you brother was in Miami Vice!!

I think we said it earlier on this thread, that despite all the women, often at the same time, Vanity was the only one that he kept pursuing over the years, so that tells you something doesn't it? On another thread they mentioned that he never kept in touch with either of his ex-wives and only intermittently kept in touch with some of his former bandmates (female) etc. Let's face it, she "got under his skin" just as much as he got under hers!!

kellyna said:

lunch break was too short. I'll have to catch Miami Vice clip later. Beachy, did your brother get paid for his appearance?

purplegirl00 said:

kellyna said:

I'm off a lunch break and can't access youtube at work, but I'll definitely check it out later. Beachy how cool that you brother was in Miami Vice!!

I think we said it earlier on this thread, that despite all the women, often at the same time, Vanity was the only one that he kept pursuing over the years, so that tells you something doesn't it? On another thread they mentioned that he never kept in touch with either of his ex-wives and only intermittently kept in touch with some of his former bandmates (female) etc. Let's face it, she "got under his skin" just as much as he got under hers!!

lunch break was too short. I'll have to catch Miami Vice clip later. Beachy, did your brother get paid for his appearance?

yes he did! he was also a stand in for one of the main characters and this show was the start of his work on movies and tv shows that he has done since, not as an actor now but he is in charge of pulling the sets together. I think the position is called Head Man lol sounds like a prince song right?

He's worked on many movies and shows like Burn Notice, CSI Miami etc

kellyna said:

I'm off a lunch break and can't access youtube at work, but I'll definitely check it out later. Beachy how cool that you brother was in Miami Vice!!

I think we said it earlier on this thread, that despite all the women, often at the same time, Vanity was the only one that he kept pursuing over the years, so that tells you something doesn't it? On another thread they mentioned that he never kept in touch with either of his ex-wives and only intermittently kept in touch with some of his former bandmates (female) etc. Let's face it, she "got under his skin" just as much as he got under hers!!

Yeah the only other woman I know he revisited was Carmen Electra, that one night stand back in 2013. Plus he sent her that note she displayed on twitter. But I think that was just old friends. Even she said she thought Vanity was his soulmate.

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purplegirl00 said:

beachy said:

I know right? man he would have so tempted me if I was Vanity I would have thought twice about turning Prince down.

Here's the movie

Never Too Young To Die (1986)

which stars Gene Simmons, yes Gene Simmons worked with Vanity!

This also star John Stamos who said the first day on set Vanity put her hand down the front of his pants lol. She was real fast back then, just like LRC said!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-RaAfQQHsM

Lunch break from work- off to watch/ listen now as well as Miami Vice and the other clip.

I was looking at Vanity's lyrics to "Under the Influence"- my favorite song and it looks like it's about Prince. "I must be Under The Influence..of a four-letter word on my mind..You got me Under The Influence..and I'll do anything anytime..I must be Under The Influence..of a love that gets sweeter than wine..You got me Under The Influence..and my willpower's so hard to find".

I know she was doing hardcore drugs at this time, but were she and Nikki done by the time this came out?

Nikki and Vanity got together in 1986 and broke up in August 1997 and were off and on for a few months after that.

beachy said:

That awesome for your brother! I agree it does sound like a Prince song.

Goddess4Real said:

kellyna said:

Okay I get confused trying to keep track of all the women - who was Susannah? That's not Wendy's twin sister is it? Do we know how Prince met her? Is she some type of musician?

Yuup Wendy's twin sister, a memeber of The Family, very talented and beautiful. Several years ago she had a falling out with Prince because like with The Time, Prince wouldn't let them use the name The Family when they wanted to do some gigs and record, they go by the name of fDeluxe. That's a shame I loved their album and their version on Nothing Compares To U. Here is some more info about her https://en.wikipedia.org/...ah_Melvoin or https://twitter.com/TheFd...th_replies I had a crush on St Paul back in the day (who was also briefly a memeber of The Time in Purple Rain film). I love their Screams of Passion video too.

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you can see the Screams of Passion video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYU-PpOvgj4

or

https://vimeo.com/138469168

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Sidenote: notice how Susannah is dressed in baggy silk men's pajamas and robes unlike the hot lingerie and boots that Vanity wore lol

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beachy said:

Vanity had "The Look" and pulled it off with ease, at least she appeared to.

Lmao you can hear Poem online here if you don't have ivault:

http://tidido.com/a35184372117695/al5432a719196dee63468c0474/t5433f103196dee9e1494e72e

That's two albums of the early 90s now that were inspired at least in part by Vanity. The other one being Diamonds and Pearls. I guess they were playing the long game.

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beachy said:

LMAO. He was definitely sending her a message LOUD and CLEAR.

Nevermind... I found it.
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beachy said:

purplegirl00 said:

Lunch break from work- off to watch/ listen now as well as Miami Vice and the other clip.

I was looking at Vanity's lyrics to "Under the Influence"- my favorite song and it looks like it's about Prince. "I must be Under The Influence..of a four-letter word on my mind..You got me Under The Influence..and I'll do anything anytime..I must be Under The Influence..of a love that gets sweeter than wine..You got me Under The Influence..and my willpower's so hard to find".

I know she was doing hardcore drugs at this time, but were she and Nikki done by the time this came out?

Nikki and Vanity got together in 1986 and broke up in August 1997 and were off and on for a few months after that.

You mean they broke up in August 1987 right? What was Vanity doing between 1990 and 1994 when she had her overdose, was she still doing movies, was she still signed with Motown and was she involved with anyone???

kellyna said:

beachy said:

Nikki and Vanity got together in 1986 and broke up in August 1997 and were off and on for a few months after that.

You mean they broke up in August 1987 right? What was Vanity doing between 1990 and 1994 when she had her overdose, was she still doing movies, was she still signed with Motown and was she involved with anyone???

yeah I'm wondering the same thing. Gonna have to do some research and pull together another time line lol.

I know she said on Joan Rivers in 92 that she hadn't been working for awhile then all of a sudden after she got saved she has 4 films to do.

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You know what we need is access to her zillion dollar book. Anyone know anyone who has it?

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I just heard/watched the "I Love You But I Don't Trust You Anymore" Montreux version and wow! . What emotion he had there. After he sings this lyric,"I would never pick the flower of my favorite protege" he says, "It's better now." I wonder what he means? What is better now? Did anyone catch that? He spoke it like the 80's comment.

beachy said:

Goddess4Real said:

Yuup Wendy's twin sister, a memeber of The Family, very talented and beautiful. Several years ago she had a falling out with Prince because like with The Time, Prince wouldn't let them use the name The Family when they wanted to do some gigs and record, they go by the name of fDeluxe. That's a shame I loved their album and their version on Nothing Compares To U. Here is some more info about her https://en.wikipedia.org/...ah_Melvoin or https://twitter.com/TheFd...th_replies I had a crush on St Paul back in the day (who was also briefly a memeber of The Time in Purple Rain film). I love their Screams of Passion video too.

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you can see the Screams of Passion video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYU-PpOvgj4

or

https://vimeo.com/138469168

.

Sidenote: notice how Susannah is dressed in baggy silk men's pajamas and robes unlike the hot lingerie and boots that Vanity wore lol

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Well I know Vanity said she wasn't comfortable with that look - but I thought she always looked fantastic - she managed to look cool and elegant with the boots and jacket etc and the outfits in black etc. But she was so gorgeous she would have looked amazing in a paper bag!!

beachy said:

kellyna said:

You mean they broke up in August 1987 right? What was Vanity doing between 1990 and 1994 when she had her overdose, was she still doing movies, was she still signed with Motown and was she involved with anyone???

yeah I'm wondering the same thing. Gonna have to do some research and pull together another time line lol.

I know she said on Joan Rivers in 92 that she hadn't been working for awhile then all of a sudden after she got saved she has 4 films to do.

.

You know what we need is access to her zillion dollar book. Anyone know anyone who has it?

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I also do some digging and see if I can find any clues about her.