I always thought he picked young ladies that looked like his mom for the most part.But,i know for a fact that true love never dies.Even if your not with that person any longer.When my mom was in the nursing home my father always visited.They were divorced and each remarried and when my mother passed on thanksgiving day my dad would call me and he really seemed depressed.He would say i loved her you know.Two weeks later he died.Anyway,Vanity had been through a lot in life because of her father so she wasn't going to take no crap off of prince.And it prob broke his heart.Goodness he has been through some women.

KoolEaze said:

nursev said:

I've said several times that I think her death broke his heart.

He´s had countless relationships and two marriages after his rather short relationship with Vanity. And it was such a long, long time ago.

Are you serious?

Do you, as a nurse, believe in such things or have you ever seen patients that made you think that they died due to psychosomatic illness ? Scientists agree that a broken heart can indeed lead to physical distress.

That don't mean nothing that he had a short relationship with her. I always believed that Vanity always was his main vain out of all the women he had including his wives. Even though you go years without speaking to each other that doesn't mean that you still don't have a special place in your heart for that person and I think Prince had that with Vanity. Plus the proof was there when he married Manuella who looked like Vanity and also was a Canadian. Prince didn't do funerals, but I think he attended hers even if it wasn't nothing but the private viewing. Why was his show in Oakland the very next day? She lived in Fremont CA.

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30yearfan said:

Great thread.

I agree with everything said as well. I find it so incredible (and a bit heart warming too) that they both found comfort in their religions in the end..hopefully found whatever was missing in their lives and in that became whole....i do believe though that there are no coincedences and that her passing did affect him greatly and contributed to his ailing health.

Whats still amazing to me is that Prince and Vanity died such a short time apart from one another and at the same exact age as well.

Carmen Electra pointed that out in an interview after he died and said Vanity was his soulmate...and Morris Day paid tribute by posting a photo of the 2 of them (P & V) back in the day that read ''together again....''

RIP beautiful ones...The Prince and The showgirl (like she referred to them in her song Samuel) now you are truly 2gether.

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I agree with what's been said in this thread. I'm a HUGE romantic so maybe my viewpoint is tainted.

P had many women and love interests, and two wives to boot! However, I think Denise (Vanity) had the reign on his heart. I even think the songs, that have been talked about on this forum about being written about the other women, were actually about her. It was her the whole time. He was private and in his music he could express himself without laying all the cards on the table. He probably got some enjoyment of people guessing whether the songs were about Susan or Susannah or whoever else. Purple Rain was the "story" and it mirrored what was taking place in his relationship with Denise. Wasn't the idea of it crafted between the two of them on a tour bus during 1999/ Triple Threat Tour? I thought I read that somewhere. When she left him and moved on to other men, that destroyed him. You hear him saying in songs that he still wanted her and always would- "until the end of time"- I think that was in "Adore".

She also professed her love for him in her songs (when she went with Motown)with "Samuelle" and I think another song or two in that same album. While that was a while back, recently (just a few years ago- '07/'08) she said he was the only man she truly ever loved. She even said in an interview, I can't remember where (after she became a Christian televangelist), that she hoped God would bring them together again, supernaturally. So she yearned for him too. While I'm glad that she got her life together before her death, it seems that Prince was the missing piece and unfinished business. Maybe she feared that reconciling or reuniting with him would null and void her new found faith journey? Maybe she thought the "demons" of her past would return. Who knows?

Although, we will never know for sure, I think they were in touch frequently over the years. I believe even his transformation to something "cleaner" and his desire to explore spirituality had something to do with her. Maybe somewhere in his head, he thought if he followed her lead, she would return to him someday? If he cleaned up his act and "grew" up, he could be the man she needed & wanted.

I believe Denise's death was a major factor in his demise. I think he was suffering with health problems on the side and losing her a second time and this time, for good, made him give up. He died alone in an elevator. Perhaps he did have an addiction to pain killers and now he was dealing with the physical pain AND mental/emotional as well.

I read a review about his concert in Oakland the day just after her funeral (rock subculture). The reviewer said he was emotional and had moments throughout the concert. He said that the theme of the concert was "We need a new story". Why would Prince want that to be the theme? Again, the romantic in me thinks that the Purple Rain story was now over with Denise's death and it was time for a new one.

Again, these are thoughts from a hopeless romantic. If this indeed is how things went down, we probably will never know. This doesn't make for a sensational media headline.

I hope Denise and Prince are resting in peace, together- as they should've been.

purplegirl00 said:

I read a review about his concert in Oakland the day just after her funeral (rock subculture). The reviewer said he was emotional and had moments throughout the concert. He said that the theme of the concert was "We need a new story". Why would Prince want that to be the theme? Again, the romantic in me thinks that the Purple Rain story was now over with Denise's death and it was time for a new one.

Yeah that makes sense, the Prince/Vanity story was officially over. It was always about her.

MitchBloodGreen said:

purplegirl00 said:

I read a review about his concert in Oakland the day just after her funeral (rock subculture). The reviewer said he was emotional and had moments throughout the concert. He said that the theme of the concert was "We need a new story". Why would Prince want that to be the theme? Again, the romantic in me thinks that the Purple Rain story was now over with Denise's death and it was time for a new one.

Yeah that makes sense, the Prince/Vanity story was officially over. It was always about her.

I agree with this as well...thank you for that.

I think it affected him, obviously. Not THE factor, but maybe one more straw that just gave way.

I agree. Now listening back to a lot of the songs it seem so obvious that it all was about her. Maybe not ALL of it, but a huge majority.

It's bitter sweet in a way.

morningsong said:

I think it affected him, obviously. Not THE factor, but maybe one more straw that just gave way.

indeed. I have never heard that Australia show he did on the day she died, but posters here say it was sad...obviously he never stopped loving her.

I think that some just want to think of a "2 joined for life, happily ever after" type of thing because both of these people died, that used to be involved with each other. Let's face it, Prince had many loves and women after Vanity, and I'm sure that he expressed love to all of them in his own way. Think about it, how many of you that have had more than one relationship, is still in love with your past love? Yes, Prince and Vanity had a relationship, but so did he and many other women, and I'm guessing that it would have been the same thing had any of them passed away, like Shiela E, Mayte, Manuela, Susannah, Kim Basinger, Madonna, etc etc etc!

1contessa said:

I think that some just want to think of a "2 joined for life, happily ever after" type of thing because both of these people died, that used to be involved with each other. Let's face it, Prince had many loves and women after Vanity, and I'm sure that he expressed love to all of them in his own way. Think about it, how many of you that have had more than one relationship, is still in love with your past love? Yes, Prince and Vanity had a relationship, but so did he and many other women, and I'm guessing that it would have been the same thing had any of them passed away, like Shiela E, Mayte, Manuela, Susannah, Kim Basinger, Madonna, etc etc etc!

You had me up until Madonna

nursev said:

1contessa said:

I think that some just want to think of a "2 joined for life, happily ever after" type of thing because both of these people died, that used to be involved with each other. Let's face it, Prince had many loves and women after Vanity, and I'm sure that he expressed love to all of them in his own way. Think about it, how many of you that have had more than one relationship, is still in love with your past love? Yes, Prince and Vanity had a relationship, but so did he and many other women, and I'm guessing that it would have been the same thing had any of them passed away, like Shiela E, Mayte, Manuela, Susannah, Kim Basinger, Madonna, etc etc etc!

You had me up until Madonna

Well, she was one in a long line of many.

nursev said:

1contessa said:

I think that some just want to think of a "2 joined for life, happily ever after" type of thing because both of these people died, that used to be involved with each other. Let's face it, Prince had many loves and women after Vanity, and I'm sure that he expressed love to all of them in his own way. Think about it, how many of you that have had more than one relationship, is still in love with your past love? Yes, Prince and Vanity had a relationship, but so did he and many other women, and I'm guessing that it would have been the same thing had any of them passed away, like Shiela E, Mayte, Manuela, Susannah, Kim Basinger, Madonna, etc etc etc!

You had me up until Madonna

be nice! madonna rocks

Ridiculous overwrought punk ass sentiment perpetuated by the common weakness of a corrupted and overly feminized society. He married twice since Vanity and had countless other babes. If Prince did nothing else in his life, he moved on and seized the next chapter - even when no one else could see it.

FUNKYNESS said:

Ridiculous overwrought punk ass sentiment perpetuated by the common weakness of a corrupted and overly feminized society. He married twice since Vanity and had countless other babes. If Prince did nothing else in his life, he moved on and seized the next chapter - even when no one else could see it.

I wouldn't have put it quite that way, but I agree.

XxAxX said:

nursev said:

You had me up until Madonna

be nice! madonna rocks

indeed she does

nursev said:

morningsong said:

I think it affected him, obviously. Not THE factor, but maybe one more straw that just gave way.

indeed. I have never heard that Australia show he did on the day she died, but posters here say it was sad...obviously he never stopped loving her.

I was under the impression they kind of casually stayed in touch as friends.

morningsong said:

nursev said:

indeed. I have never heard that Australia show he did on the day she died, but posters here say it was sad...obviously he never stopped loving her.

I was under the impression they kind of casually stayed in touch as friends.

I dont know...I never heard Vanity say they did...but who knows?

nursev said:

what was always interesting to me is that when most of these women left Prince they became very religious or dated terrible men like Mayte hell even Eric Benet was accused by Halle of being a sex addict. They all missed and wanted Prince. [Edited 4/30/16 8:31am]

this always intrigued me though

nursev said:

morningsong said:

I was under the impression they kind of casually stayed in touch as friends.

I dont know...I never heard Vanity say they did...but who knows?

Yea, I don't think she ever said. He was so private that he wouldn't have said anything either. Again, I'm a hopeless romantic. My thoughts are probably wrong.

I remember reading (on one of the old fan sites) that Vanity briefly visited P at one of his "Jam Of Year" concerts. Don't know if it was true but I thought that would have been nice.

nursev said:

morningsong said:

I was under the impression they kind of casually stayed in touch as friends.

I dont know...I never heard Vanity say they did...but who knows?

I don't know where I got that from but there seems to be something vague, that they spoke about something in more recent years or something. Could be just me.


Seeing he hand wrote all these notes all over the place I wouldn't say it was a stretch there was at least a brief contact.

I think Vanity was the love of his life. She died the same day his mom died on 2002. That is not a coincidence. I think her death hurried him to the grave.

scriptgirl said:

I think Vanity was the love of his life. She died the same day his mom died on 2002. That is not a coincidence. I think her death hurried him to the grave.

Oh wow, I did not know that! Heartbreaking indeed

scriptgirl said:

I think Vanity was the love of his life. She died the same day his mom died on 2002. That is not a coincidence. I think her death hurried him to the grave.

nursev said:

pnv said:

nursev said:

I dont know...I never heard Vanity say they did...but who knows?

Yes they stayed in touch! Vanity had said that in some recent interviews. Remember when she passed Prince said "someone very dear to us has passed". He was the love of her life. This is coming from one of her best friends. She had such incredible unconditional love for him. I believe he truly realized that. And yes I believe he was striving to be the ultimate man for her just the way he was seeking spirituality and practicing celibacy these are all things she too was into. So yes I truly believe if Vanity was still on this earth so would be Prince.

There's no way to tell that if Vanity was still on this earth, that Prince would be also. Everyone has to die, as it is written in the Bible, that every man/woman is appointed a time to live and a time to die, and Vanity nor Prince was no different, they were human beings just like all of us.

You always want what you can't have, so if P was still in love with Vanity, it was because the broke up and she didn't stick around for him to get tired of her and kick her to the curb.

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And not saying he did that with all this women, but you see my point.

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