While your fans of Prince blame Larry for ending the ' greatness' of Prince, I blame Prince for ending the ' greatness' of Larry Graham and his Graham Central Station!

GCS2000 is an horrible album for us Graham Central Station fans due the worse production of Prince. How can a legendary star as Prince really a worse album like that?

How that crying about Larry and Prince. Come on, do you really think a grown man as Prince can not decided what he wants? Do you think Prince will tell him what to do?
And what about the music: after lovesexy Prince never made another great classic album as the great albumrun beginning from 1999.

I know that Prince promised his mother to search for help in Jehova. So he is the only one you can blame. Stop blaming somebody else for what Prince does.

I think you are not happy what Prince has done the last years and that you need somebody to blame.

I think we- GCS/ SLY fans and you -Prince fans are both disappointed in the cooperation of those two funk/ groove legends: Prince never made another great album and Larry never made another great GCS album. How funny if legends are working together, it never sounds great.

But give Larry some credits: he is really a nice person who take all the time for his fans (before, during and after the show) and he made some great great albums with GCS. Plus, he is named as a big influence in the music industry.

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amsterdamman said:

While your fans of Prince blame Larry for ending the ' greatness' of Prince, I blame Prince for ending the ' greatness' of Larry Graham and his Graham Central Station!

GCS2000 is an horrible album for us Graham Central Station fans due the worse production of Prince. How can a legendary star as Prince really a worse album like that?

How that crying about Larry and Prince. Come on, do you really think a grown man as Prince can not decided what he wants? Do you think Prince will tell him what to do?
And what about the music: after lovesexy Prince never made another great classic album as the great albumrun beginning from 1999.

I know that Prince promised his mother to search for help in Jehova. So he is the only one you can blame. Stop blaming somebody else for what Prince does.

I think you are not happy what Prince has done the last years and that you need somebody to blame.

I think we- GCS/ SLY fans and you -Prince fans are both disappointed in the cooperation of those two funk/ groove legends: Prince never made another great album and Larry never made another great GCS album. How funny if legends are working together, it never sounds great.

But give Larry some credits: he is really a nice person who take all the time for his fans (before, during and after the show) and he made some great great albums with GCS. Plus, he is named as a big influence in the music industry.

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Have you heard Larry Graham's '80s albums. Larry and his producers were already watering down the sound and ideas he pioneered with smaltzy love ballads and dated '80s drum machine and synths. I agree that Prince is a grown man and chose his religious faith willingly and should not treated like a child who got brainwashed by Larry Graham by some folks. I also agree that GCS 2000 is awful and I can't listen to that album without feeling disappointed over the results. Prince lazily produced GCS 2000 and too many covers of Larry's own tunes. "Raise Up" where Pirnce played on 3 songs is so much better.

speak for yourself pal, not the rest of us. GCS2000 was far better than some of larrys 80s output. he totally succumbed to 80s slick r&b/pop and was losing some funk long before prince came into his life.

oh PUH-LEEZ

you can HAVE your larry graham!

he is a succubus for Prince's talent

Nope,we can't blame Prince.Larry Graham hasn't done a "real" funk album since the 70s.He watered down his sound in the 80s when he started doing schmaltzy ballads and throwaway R&B uptempo tracks.

GCS2000, actually helped Larry get his funk back!

forget the 80's that was ruined for Larry, 'by popular demand' was an horrific try to get back. GCS2000, while not perfect, was the best album since 1979.

Since then i've seen Larry perform many times. What a great performer he is!

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

^^

This is fun

But to be fair: I love the GCS albums 'till the last album My Radio Sure Sounds Good To Me.

And some tracks of the solo albums I dig, like Stand Up, And Shout About Love, There's Something About You Baby, Sooner Or Later, Don't stop Whem You're Hot, I Feel Good,and some (not) more.
I think his solo album will made a perfect album of all the songs. Delete all that soft stuff.

And yes: By Popular Demand is by far his worse album ever. Got it as hardcore GCS fan from Japan and I didn't like any song of it. Same as GCS2000. In that case Raise Up is a little better.

But still, it's too bad that Prince and Larry didn't funk together. And I don't know why. Even live the mix is not perfect. It seems that they both like to stay away from the funk.

Larry played some great shows at the 1996 european tour. And that was before he met Prince.

But once again: i think you can't blame Larry that Prince changes his musical style and his own believes.

sorry once again

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sorry, i push too much on the send

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Where the fuck is Larry?

The church told Larry to steer clear. I feel Prince was sanctioned.

getting out.....

but you know i'm right

peer1973 said:

getting out.....

but you know i'm right

That was for the OP.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

peer1973 said:

getting out.....

but you know i'm right

That was for the OP.

great

Larry's 1980-1985 albums were TERRIBLE.

His almost unheard (I only heard it for the first time last year) 1997 album ("By popular demand") is pretty cool but it sounds dated as fuck (very late 80's). However it works for me: nothing really relevant in the 90's, but some really cool funk jams.

Larry's last effort from 2012 is also a remarkable funk record even though it brings nothing new to the mix. It's neo-classic Graham and it works because of that and only because of that.

As for GCS 2000, besides the OP's typical "Prince is over and done" ranting and the common hate for the sound of the so-called plastic years (96-01), I personally totally disagree. I actually had a lot of great times listening to it at the time and to be honest, the only reason it's my least favorite of the Newpower Pak trilogy is... Larry. Not Larry himself, I love the guy and his music, but his compositions: I find the songwriting much weaker on that one than on NPS and Come 2 My House. However since I love the production of that era, it still fits in and it's a happy, positive vibe party album that makes my day everytime I listen to it, up to this day.

I honestly don't think Prince ruined anything: Larry Graham, as a studio artist, produced a series of classic gems in the 70's but he was washed out by 1980. As I said above, his 5 realy 80's album were for the most part ridiculous (and I have them all so I know what I'm talking about), he then came back 12 years later (in 97) with a fun but totally outdated album, then his collab with P that is IMHO precisely made great by Prince's contribution, and then a 14 years hiatus followed by a great album that is great because it successfully recreates a 70's sound. Honestly if not for that Prince collab in 98 you'd be left with the 97 album and the 2012 album: 2 studio albums since 1985 and his first decent recordings since Star Walk in 1979, nothing exactly to boast about.

itsjustaroundthecorner said:

oh PUH-LEEZ

you can HAVE your larry graham!

he is a succubus for Prince's talent

yep- cause Larry just hung around with Sly, played Woodstock, formed a sucessful band, slo career and had radio hits all just passing time until Prince came onto the scene to took his talent.