prittypriss said:

Hopefully, Mayte's book does not reveal anything about Prince that has 1. not been revealed before or 2. that he has not given her permission to reveal. While I can understand her need to talk about her life, to tell her story, there are certain aspects of a person's life that should be their's and their's alone to reveal. So, when Mayte talks about what she needs to talk about, I hope she uses tact and class in the process. While her life with Prince was her experience, there were two people in that relationship and both should have a say-so about what does or does not go into print.

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I think it would be a low down thing to do even though it's her story too, but like I already said, I've never had a high opinion of her to begin with, even before the reality show.

I still suspect that it won't come to that though. I'm guessing that she really hopes P will pay her to go away.

terrig said:

prittypriss said:

Just some food for thought on the effects of having lived through a traumatic (abusive) childhood on the individual as an adult:

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Survivors often find it difficult to trust others. As children they might have been betrayed by the very adults who were meant to nurture and protect them. As a result, survivors often find it difficult to form and sustain relationships. A large survey of adult survivors of child abuse in Australia found that survivors had a higher rate of failed relationships and marriages, and reported lower levels of social interaction (Draper, Pirkis et al. 2008).

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Childhood trauma and abuse doesn’t just affect the mind - they can affect the body too. Children who feel perpetually in danger grow up with a heightened stress response. This in turn heightens their emotions, makes it difficult to sleep, lowers immune function, and, over time, increases the risk of a number of physical illnesses.

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• Narcissistic personality disorder: a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy
• Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder: a pervasive preoccupation with orderliness, perfectionism, and mental and interpersonal control, at the expense of flexibility, openness and efficiency.

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As a survivor myself of years of abuse, I can tell you that trusting others is a MAJOR issue for me. Relationships have never ran smooth because of those trust issues. Also, since I had so little control in my childhood, I tend to want to control everything around me as an adult, but most especially my own emotions, which also causes relationship problems. I have very few close friends, only two, and have little to nothing to do with my family. My family tends to be those chosen friends that have proven they can be trusted. I also have fears of abandonment, as my father came home one day and told me that he was putting me up for adoption (to my 8 year old mind - he was telling me he didn't want me). Then I moved in with relatives and was told repeatedly how I wasn't really wanted. That has a HUGE impact on your psyche. I have also spent most of my life looking for answers, looking at religions, God, etc., needing and wanting to feel that my life, the purpose for what I experienced, had some greater meaning. At a very young age, because of all the pain I experienced, I realized that love was the key to everything, that without love for one another we would continue to hurt each other, without love for one another we would continue to suffer, and my life became about ensuring that I always tried to exhibit that love towards others, but oftentimes, the trust and emotional control would be foremost and what I wanted to express to others emotionally, in a loving way, was not always understood. And the one thing I have sought for, the one thing I have always wanted, was to just be loved. Truly loved for who I am, imperfections and all, and to give that love truly to another.

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Feeling that you aren't wanted, being put out of your home, the emotional scars that can cause is tremendous, even if he had experienced no physical abuse. I ran away multiple times. I have been on my own since I was 7, truly. And I believe that Prince has as well. Does any of the above sound like our sensitive soul?

I've been in this place, and was diagnosed with PTSD in my early 20's based on what I went through as a child.

No one gets to judge how 'hard' someones backstory is...abuse is abuse. Period.

I didnt begin to heal until I for the most part 'divorced' my family. It was the best thing I ever did, and am happy and healthy and managed to work through it, alone, but it is what it is... everyones journey is different and should be respected.

I realize this was Maytes life too, but quite frankly, no one cares one iota about that really. Its interesting because its Prince, not because its Mayte. Selling off intimate details is really low and if you ever really loved someone why would you do that?

It goes to show that groupie girls are groupie girls through and through. You can't be pimped by your mom to a rock star at 16 and have the dignity instilled in you that you need to manage yourself as an adult. Her momma did her very very wrong ....Prince did her wrong too, but neither one of them were able to manage a healthy adult marriage - it can't start out the way it did and end up all rainbows and flowers. It's been awhile though and she did get everything she needed to be able to move on, and alot of therapy should have been her main focus.

She seems to be a perpetual victim without ever taking responsibility to move on and reclaim some dignity.

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Tyka managed to tell her own story without putting her brother on front street and when you read it you can tell it's not something people should be dismissive about. There were some profound issues there.

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Angelsoncrack said:

Just reading all the stuff on here...I bet if a psychoanalist got to see Prince it would be a very interesting experience for them both.

I never doubted that Princes control issues were due to his childhood, but the stuff you posted above Prittypriss is very interesting indeed.

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I've a feeling Prince would be the one psychoanalyzing the therapist! He'd run circles around a psychoanalyst.

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I've always known his control issues were a throwback to his childhood. And I've always understood that need in him. I remember watching an interview in which he said something to the effect that he doesn't do well speaking in front of people, he speaks through his music. So I always understood why he had such a tight control on that music. Each song is like a little piece of his soul that he is revealing, but it is HIS to reveal and share. When someone comes along and takes it from you, it's like being that child again without any control over the situation.

With all of the insights that you and terrig have provided I hope people will strive to understand. Imagine having to work through some challenges while living your whole life in the public eye? Prince is incredibly strong, even more than he himself knows.

The thing about being strong is that no one understands that even the strong need a shoulder to cry on sometimes.

What I marvel at is when someone survives those traumas and emerges with a compassionate heart. I recall your stories about working with sick people and I wonder why some people turn into abusers themselves while others do not?

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Superfan1984 said:

I remember in an interview towards the end of their marriage Prince saying that while he studied the JW faith with Larry, Mayte was studying with Larry's wife (I think her name is Tina- I forget) ---- I'm sure Mayte enjoyed that! Clearly not as you can see that as soon as the marriage was over she got with Tommy Lee and wanted him to "fuck me or take me shopping" ----- obviously was not the time in her life for her to be studying to become a devout JW like Prince was trying to do. I bet she hated those meetings!

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she did not say that! did she? is this just rumor? no way. hmm

He did bang her when she was 16.

The whole baby saga should be heart rending.

Empress said:

I'm curious to know what Mayte will have to say about Larry Graham. I have a feeling his new relationship with Prince had some negative affect on their marriage. I really felt Mayte was "the one", so I'm very curious to know what she has to say on their breakup. Hopefully, she will be honest and not write a bunch of crap. ------------I continue to hope that he will find a good, solid woman and have kids one day.

During the JOTY tour Prince and Kirky J were messing around with groupies on the tour bus, asking them to flash their tits. Prince didn't need Larry's help when it came to ruining his marriage.

2freaky4church1 said:

He did bang her when she was 16.

isn't that illegal?

2freaky4church1 said:

He did bang her when she was 16.

DID'NT bang her @ 16! That is a TOTAL LIE! He waited untill she became of age.

Please stop with the scandalous lies...

EvilAngel said:

Empress said:

I'm curious to know what Mayte will have to say about Larry Graham. I have a feeling his new relationship with Prince had some negative affect on their marriage. I really felt Mayte was "the one", so I'm very curious to know what she has to say on their breakup. Hopefully, she will be honest and not write a bunch of crap. ------------I continue to hope that he will find a good, solid woman and have kids one day.

During the JOTY tour Prince and Kirky J were messing around with groupies on the tour bus, asking them to flash their tits. Prince didn't need Larry's help when it came to ruining his marriage.

Thank you for keeping it real...

Superfan1984 said:

XxaXx---- Yeah, that's what she said. It was pretty shocking. But I give her a pass on that, she seems like a sweet person and does good things for animals so I can let that go .

on film, no less, poor dear. way to have a meltdown mayte!

babynoz said:

prittypriss said:

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I've a feeling Prince would be the one psychoanalyzing the therapist! He'd run circles around a psychoanalyst.

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I've always known his control issues were a throwback to his childhood. And I've always understood that need in him. I remember watching an interview in which he said something to the effect that he doesn't do well speaking in front of people, he speaks through his music. So I always understood why he had such a tight control on that music. Each song is like a little piece of his soul that he is revealing, but it is HIS to reveal and share. When someone comes along and takes it from you, it's like being that child again without any control over the situation.

With all of the insights that you and terrig have provided I hope people will strive to understand. Imagine having to work through some challenges while living your whole life in the public eye? Prince is incredibly strong, even more than he himself knows.

The thing about being strong is that no one understands that even the strong need a shoulder to cry on sometimes.

What I marvel at is when someone survives those traumas and emerges with a compassionate heart. I recall your stories about working with sick people and I wonder why some people turn into abusers themselves while others do not?

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The thing is Prince remains fairly private. Many people are curious about him, about his life, but only those chosen few truly know about his life, and even they only those parts he chooses to share with them. He is the only one that knows the whole story. So, in a sense, he hasn't worked through those challenges in the public eye. But he is an incredibly strong individual.

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And thats true, even the strong do need a shoulder to cry on sometimes. The problem comes in that those that have had to be the strongest, tend to not rely on others. They suffer alone, quietly. I think that for many it's because they are just used to being the strong one and it's not easy to let go of that control. For myself, I absolutely hate crying in front of others, letting them see me weak? No. I was in a group home when I was around 16/17 and we had to go through counseling twice per week. One of the house mothers approached my therapist and told him that when I get mad, I'm like a zombie. Always polite, "yes ma'am", "no ma'am", but there is absolutely no emotion behind it. She said that she knew I was mad, but that I really dissociated from my emotions. I was that way with a lot of my more intense emotions, but when I became angry I wanted to cry with my frustration, and I just could not express that, let anyone else see that. I just couldn't let go of that control.

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And I don't know the answer to that question. For myself, personally, it's because I know suffering that it kills me to see someone else suffer, to see them hurt. I remember when I was little I wanted to live in a mansion when I grew up and adopt all of the unwanted children in the world, so that they would always know love, real love, because they would no longer be unwanted. I think in some people, like myself, it's the very nature of the suffering we endure that opens our hearts to the suffering of others and the desire to alleviate that suffering. For others, that pain locks them in place, and they cannot project that pain onto others, to realize others also hurt. They are so deeply hurt, they can only feel their own pain, only recognize their own pain and cannot see the pain of others, or how what they do might hurt others. I'm so cognizant of the idea of causing pain to someone else with my actions that it has caused me to be indecisive at times, because whatever choice I might make might cause another to hurt.

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But we're really derailing the topic here with this.

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With Mayte, I always keep in mind that she herself was very young and immature when she got with Prince, and therefore she is kind of frozen at that age. That was such a strange relationship and it really etched into her the way all future relationships should be. But none can ever be that way again, because whoever she gets involved with is not Prince. The dynamics of that relatonship could only be exactly what they were in that time frame because of who the two of them were during that time frame, where they each were in their own development. To be honest, she was still a child when she was pushed into that world by her parents (mother). And she may need to do this in order to move forward in her own life and to let that time go. Writing about it is healing. But again, I just hope if she feels the need to do this, that she does it with class and does not reveal what is not her's to reveal.

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prittypriss said:

babynoz said:

With all of the insights that you and terrig have provided I hope people will strive to understand. Imagine having to work through some challenges while living your whole life in the public eye? Prince is incredibly strong, even more than he himself knows.

The thing about being strong is that no one understands that even the strong need a shoulder to cry on sometimes.

What I marvel at is when someone survives those traumas and emerges with a compassionate heart. I recall your stories about working with sick people and I wonder why some people turn into abusers themselves while others do not?

.

The thing is Prince remains fairly private. Many people are curious about him, about his life, but only those chosen few truly know about his life, and even they only those parts he chooses to share with them. He is the only one that knows the whole story. So, in a sense, he hasn't worked through those challenges in the public eye. But he is an incredibly strong individual.

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And thats true, even the strong do need a shoulder to cry on sometimes. The problem comes in that those that have had to be the strongest, tend to not rely on others. They suffer alone, quietly. I think that for many it's because they are just used to being the strong one and it's not easy to let go of that control. For myself, I absolutely hate crying in front of others, letting them see me weak? No. I was in a group home when I was around 16/17 and we had to go through counseling twice per week. One of the house mothers approached my therapist and told him that when I get mad, I'm like a zombie. Always polite, "yes ma'am", "no ma'am", but there is absolutely no emotion behind it. She said that she knew I was mad, but that I really dissociated from my emotions. I was that way with a lot of my more intense emotions, but when I became angry I wanted to cry with my frustration, and I just could not express that, let anyone else see that. I just couldn't let go of that control.

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And I don't know the answer to that question. For myself, personally, it's because I know suffering that it kills me to see someone else suffer, to see them hurt. I remember when I was little I wanted to live in a mansion when I grew up and adopt all of the unwanted children in the world, so that they would always know love, real love, because they would no longer be unwanted. I think in some people, like myself, it's the very nature of the suffering we endure that opens our hearts to the suffering of others and the desire to alleviate that suffering. For others, that pain locks them in place, and they cannot project that pain onto others, to realize others also hurt. They are so deeply hurt, they can only feel their own pain, only recognize their own pain and cannot see the pain of others, or how what they do might hurt others. I'm so cognizant of the idea of causing pain to someone else with my actions that it has caused me to be indecisive at times, because whatever choice I might make might cause another to hurt.

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But we're really derailing the topic here with this.

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With Mayte, I always keep in mind that she herself was very young and immature when she got with Prince, and therefore she is kind of frozen at that age. That was such a strange relationship and it really etched into her the way all future relationships should be. But none can ever be that way again, because whoever she gets involved with is not Prince. The dynamics of that relatonship could only be exactly what they were in that time frame because of who the two of them were during that time frame, where they each were in their own development. To be honest, she was still a child when she was pushed into that world by her parents (mother). And she may need to do this in order to move forward in her own life and to let that time go. Writing about it is healing. But again, I just hope if she feels the need to do this, that she does it with class and does not reveal what is not her's to reveal.

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Agreed!

prittypriss said:

Targeting a Xmas release...

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

prittypriss said:

terrig said:

I've been in this place, and was diagnosed with PTSD in my early 20's based on what I went through as a child.

No one gets to judge how 'hard' someones backstory is...abuse is abuse. Period.

I didnt begin to heal until I for the most part 'divorced' my family. It was the best thing I ever did, and am happy and healthy and managed to work through it, alone, but it is what it is... everyones journey is different and should be respected.

I realize this was Maytes life too, but quite frankly, no one cares one iota about that really. Its interesting because its Prince, not because its Mayte. Selling off intimate details is really low and if you ever really loved someone why would you do that?

It goes to show that groupie girls are groupie girls through and through. You can't be pimped by your mom to a rock star at 16 and have the dignity instilled in you that you need to manage yourself as an adult. Her momma did her very very wrong ....Prince did her wrong too, but neither one of them were able to manage a healthy adult marriage - it can't start out the way it did and end up all rainbows and flowers. It's been awhile though and she did get everything she needed to be able to move on, and alot of therapy should have been her main focus.

She seems to be a perpetual victim without ever taking responsibility to move on and reclaim some dignity.

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Yeah, I was diagnosed with complex PTSD. It's not a recognized diagnosis in the DSM-V, but many therapists and counselors are advocating for it to be included. So they will "label" it complex PTSD, but when they bill, it's usually billed under PTSD. But it's also known as "developmental trauma disorder (DTD) or complex trauma" and is "a psychological injury that results from protracted exposure to prolonged social and/or interpersonal trauma in the context of dependence, captivity or entrapment (a situation lacking a viable escape)."

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Every one has a story. Every one has scars from the life they've lived. You can't get through life without developing some scars along the way. But how deeply those original cuts went is a highly personal thing, and how those scars have healed is also deeply personal. No two people will ever deal with a situation in exactly the same way. And no one can compare their stories to another and say, "I know exactly what you are feeling." Because we don't know exactly what that other person is feeling.

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I knew a lady that had one instance of abuse in her life, but it was enough that it impacted every aspect of her life from that moment on, drug abuse, alcoholism, prostitution. Her trust was completely betrayed in that one moment and she was never the same again. Her life was a complete and utter wreck. For myself, while I went through years of abuse, I've also gone on to get my graduate degree, have a successful career helping others, have incredible children in whom I'm extremely proud, but my relationships have sucked out the wazoo! But every other aspect of my life is fulfilling. I know why my relationships have sucked, and it's been strictly my trust, my abandonment, and my dissociative issues (someone can be talking to me and suddenly it's like they are speaking a foreign language - I can hear them, I'm interested in the conversation, but I've completely dissociated in that moment). And yes, I have not picked the best guys. But hey, everything else is great!

Wow, you guys are getting way too deep for this thread. But yeah, CPTSD...

She Should Write The Book..... Hummmm Maybe I will write One 2 about The Sexy 2 1/2 Years I Spent With him! Google>>> Robin Power Royal aka AudioErotica

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AudioErotica said:

She Should Write The Book..... Hummmm Maybe I will write One 2 about The Sexy 2 1/2 Years I Spent With him! Google>>> Robin Power Royal aka AudioErotica

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Hmmmm..Eye think U've said enough already...

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

DID'NT bang her @ 16! That is a TOTAL LIE! He waited untill she became of age.

Please stop with the scandalous lies...

Yeah, he just set her on the shelf and let her age.

Seriously, I like me some Prince, but the whole picking someone out when they're underage and keeping them around until they're legal (and this isn't the only story like that, of course) is just plain creepy. You don't have to lie to make it unpleasant. I mean, kudos on waiting, I guess. But, you know, it's not like he was 18 and waiting for a 17-and-a-half year old. Someone in their thirties seriously checking out the 10th graders is a bit tacky, even where acting on it isn't illegal.

And then to write songs I like about it? That's just messed up.

It's nothing wrong with admiring a young women from afar. That hasn't been dipped in her lovesea b 4.....

gave Mayte a world of riches & fame. No one forced her to give up the cookie. That was her decision...And her Pimp mama....