babynoz said:

terrig said:

Toure's book is. so. bad.

Prince isnt boring. Toure's book is boring, because Toure thinks himself a thinker but he's sooooo not. lololol

LOL...exactly.

He's a lightweight, pop culture pop-tart.

Toure's book signing/conference that I attended a few years ago, with La. Reid & Susannah Melvoin was a MUST SEE for any real fan of 's! It wa VERY insightful.

I know he once revealed during an interview that as a kid he was not very healthy and suffered from epileptic seizures. They went away when he was visited by an angel

And no, I'm not making that up. I think that was the same interview in which he talked about chemtrails....

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

babynoz said:

LOL...exactly.

He's a lightweight, pop culture pop-tart.

Toure's book signing/conference that I attended a few years ago, with La. Reid & Susannah Melvoin was a MUST SEE for any real fan of 's! It wa VERY insightful.

Those rules only apply to you and your middle school classmates, young lady....

Superfan1984 said:

I've never really heard of anything awful in his childhood. So what? His father kicked him out of his house at some point (so did mine) he didn't like his stepfather and the stepfather didn't like him- So what? I've never heard of anything so terrible- no beatings, no drug addicts in the family (except for his sister, later when she was on her own- not living with him) Yeah, he has immense talent and saved himself from a life of poverty- (well, maybe, but maybe not- his parents werent' exactly on food stamps- wasn't the mother like a superintendent of schools of schools or something?) It kills me when I hear people say he had it rough- I've never heard rough. He signed a six figure contract when he was still in his teens and the worse I've ever heard him going through (besides the death of the baby- which we all agree is awful) is him standing outside calling his dad asking if he could come home and the dad said no- at that point he went back to his friend's nice comfy home where he had his own room down in the basement. Oh the horror! Can someone please explain what trauma he endured as a child because I don't see it?

Superfan1984 said:

Superfan1984 said:

I've never really heard of anything awful in his childhood. So what? His father kicked him out of his house at some point (so did mine) he didn't like his stepfather and the stepfather didn't like him- So what? I've never heard of anything so terrible- no beatings, no drug addicts in the family (except for his sister, later when she was on her own- not living with him) Yeah, he has immense talent and saved himself from a life of poverty- (well, maybe, but maybe not- his parents werent' exactly on food stamps- wasn't the mother like a superintendent of schools of schools or something?) It kills me when I hear people say he had it rough- I've never heard rough. He signed a six figure contract when he was still in his teens and the worse I've ever heard him going through (besides the death of the baby- which we all agree is awful) is him standing outside calling his dad asking if he could come home and the dad said no- at that point he went back to his friend's nice comfy home where he had his own room down in the basement. Oh the horror! Can someone please explain what trauma he endured as a child because I don't see it?

I think just because it seems trivial and easy for you to get through hypothetically speaking doesn't mean it didn't take an emotional toll on Prince, a completely different person to you. Being rejected by his own father at an extremely young age (16 i think he was) is enough emotional trauma for one. And the fact he apparently was phsyically abuse towards Prince as a child as well as an adult.

His relationship with his father appears rocky to say the least. It's especially worse when he's a boy too, because I imagine having a close bond with a father figure is important for young men.

laurarichardson said:

Superfan1984 said:

I've never really heard of anything awful in his childhood. So what? His father kicked him out of his house at some point (so did mine) he didn't like his stepfather and the stepfather didn't like him- So what? I've never heard of anything so terrible- no beatings, no drug addicts in the family (except for his sister, later when she was on her own- not living with him) Yeah, he has immense talent and saved himself from a life of poverty- (well, maybe, but maybe not- his parents werent' exactly on food stamps- wasn't the mother like a superintendent of schools of schools or something?) It kills me when I hear people say he had it rough- I've never heard rough. He signed a six figure contract when he was still in his teens and the worse I've ever heard him going through (besides the death of the baby- which we all agree is awful) is him standing outside calling his dad asking if he could come home and the dad said no- at that point he went back to his friend's nice comfy home where he had his own room down in the basement. Oh the horror! Can someone please explain what trauma he endured as a child because I don't see it?

_____ He has said his dad was physically abusive toward him. I do not believe for one minute he stayed away from his parents homes for no reason,

His stepdad. left home way after his parents divorced. Then moved with his dad who later kicked him out. Which left poor homeless . He then moved in the basement with his VERY close friend Andre in his Mother Bernadette's home.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

babynoz said:

LOL...exactly.

He's a lightweight, pop culture pop-tart.

Toure's book signing/conference that I attended a few years ago, with La. Reid & Susannah Melvoin was a MUST SEE for any real fan of 's! It wa VERY insightful.

Well his book needed a proof-reader because he got his facts wrong several times. If an author can't get the facts right, I'm not interested in their "insight". Just sayin'...

djThunderfunk said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Toure's book signing/conference that I attended a few years ago, with La. Reid & Susannah Melvoin was a MUST SEE for any real fan of 's! It wa VERY insightful.

Well his book needed a proof-reader because he got his facts wrong several times. If an author can't get the facts right, I'm not interested in their "insight". Just sayin'...

ill bet his book was just to get people talking agiaN...NOT MUCH ELSE

djThunderfunk said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Toure's book signing/conference that I attended a few years ago, with La. Reid & Susannah Melvoin was a MUST SEE for any real fan of 's! It wa VERY insightful.

Well his book needed a proof-reader because he got his facts wrong several times. If an author can't get the facts right, I'm not interested in their "insight". Just sayin'...

Even though I'm one of the rarest that likes Toure'. Eye opted not to talk to him @ the conference or purchase his book. I found LA Reid & Susannah Melvoin far more interesting.

Superfan1984 said:

Averett said:

i look forward to reading her book, i have always liked her. prince is not perfect as some here on this site like to think. everyone wants to attack mayte, but seems that she went through a lot with him! and i think she truly did love him. his track record with women is not good, and he comes off as a control freak in the relationships as i've read over the years in books/interviews with his former band mates and lovers. also he almost always wants to date girls way younger than him that are naive and can be manipulated.

Superfan1984 said:

laurarichardson- I didn't know his father said he didn't like him as a person. That is horrible. Would be traumatizing . I had never heard that.

Because it's not true!

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

laurarichardson said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Because it's not true!

It is true Prince said he belived his Dad did not like him as a person and that his father was verbally abusive. He has been a little bit more open about in the last few years.

Nothing against U. But Eye don't believe that he said that. has NEVER given up personal negative thoughts about his family. Except when Eye attended the debut unveiling of the live first ever per4mance of "Papa". Which left the audience shocked & in tears.

Dalia11 said:

On the Oprah interview, Prince said that he and his dad were not talking. If I remember correctly, when he was on Tavis Smiley, he said that his father was critical of him. Children who grow up in broken homes become adults with emotional scars. As does the children who were abused, beaten or witnessed domestic violence. [Edited 6/29/15 18:49pm]

Being critical of someone and not liking them as a person is two COMPLETELY different statements. I do believe he was physically abused though.....

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Superfan1984 said:

laurarichardson said:

Superfan1984 said:

Ok- but still, none of this is particularly traumatizing. Yes, it would be horrible to have a parent "not like you" ---- yes, awful. but kids have so much worse! I'm sure many Orgers have had much worse! My original thought was, besides the baby, things have been pretty good for him as a whole. I think Prince would even agree. Prince has not had a "hard life." geez.

You really think physical and verbal abuse is something to scoff at?

I know really! Furthermore, if a kid has to go from home to home until he finally lands at a friend's house because his parents wont take him, I'd say that's a pretty f'd up childhood. Something has gone really wrong in his immediate family. For someone to think that's a relatively easy/not a "hard life" life for a child, is beyond me. He ran away from home at one point. Things aren't all roses if a kid is running away from home. You don't have to be a social worker to see that.

MJ007 said:

laurarichardson said:

Superfan1984 said: You really think physical and verbal abuse is something to scoff at?

I know really! Furthermore, if a kid has to go from home to home until he finally lands at a friend's house because his parents wont take him, I'd say that's a pretty f'd up childhood. Something has gone really wrong in his immediate family. For someone to think that's a relatively easy/not a "hard life" life for a child, is beyond me. He ran away from home at one point. Things aren't all roses if a kid is running away from home. You don't have to be a social worker to see that.

Didn't his dad kick him out for his uh...extracuricular activities? And this was when he was pretty young (like 15?). It doesn't make sense for his dad to just kick him out instead of just asking him to not do that in his house (in which case his dad did and he carried on doing it, maybe he had a point of punishing him, but kicking him out seems a bit too far). Dude came from a pretty rough home.

iZsaZsa said:

babynoz said:

Ewww...the mental picture,

I'm Scorpio. Sorry.

.

Hey! Do not blame that on being a Scorpio!

Angelsoncrack said:

MJ007 said:

I know really! Furthermore, if a kid has to go from home to home until he finally lands at a friend's house because his parents wont take him, I'd say that's a pretty f'd up childhood. Something has gone really wrong in his immediate family. For someone to think that's a relatively easy/not a "hard life" life for a child, is beyond me. He ran away from home at one point. Things aren't all roses if a kid is running away from home. You don't have to be a social worker to see that.

Didn't his dad kick him out for his uh...extracuricular activities? And this was when he was pretty young (like 15?). It doesn't make sense for his dad to just kick him out instead of just asking him to not do that in his house (in which case his dad did and he carried on doing it, maybe he had a point of punishing him, but kicking him out seems a bit too far). Dude came from a pretty rough home.

It's nothing mysterious. Prince's parents split up. Mattie remarried and Prince didn't get along with his stepdad (which is not uncommon). He goes to live with his dad, but doesn't want to follow his dad's rules. His dad boots him and he goes to live in Andre's basement.

And there are very few kids who were raised in the 60s who weren't "abused" by today's standards. Yelling was common. Spanking was common. I have never heard Prince say it went beyond anything like that.

[Edited 7/1/15 13:26pm]