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Thread started 06/13/15 5:29am

Fury

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Do ex-band mates /protégés miss the Prince ride when it's over ?

Almost four decades I to a brilliant career, Prince is still selling out shows like its 1984. More than a few associates musicians have come and gone... Some have done very well after Prince and some have just disappeared altogether. Even someone like Morris Day must be bored silly singing the same 10 or 15 songs for thirty years. Do you think any of the exes secretly hope they get a chance to work
With him again ?
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Reply #1 posted 06/13/15 6:33am

cbarnes3121

I'm sure most of them will not admit it but they prolly crave that life again.u can tell majority of them do how they speak on their past with him and his name or past pics are always posted
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Reply #2 posted 06/13/15 8:15am

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It's just unfortunate that as son as the ride is over they go from spotlight to basically hustling up gigs at small clubs sometimes. I'm sure some have gone on to playing with other musicians, but I would think playing with Prince would be the pinnacle of musical accomplishments short of making it big themselves. Sheila E will be here in Baltimore Friday playing for free at the Heritage Featival. she has had a great sustained career, but her biggest hits come from the 80's and are strongly linked to Prince. most people people will be there for glamorous life and love bizarre and maybe one or two other songs.
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Reply #3 posted 06/13/15 8:57am

Dalia11

Definitely! Then they start bitchin when things end.
Over the years I have been reading that some of
his past associates would say negative things
about him. If what they say is true?, then they
should have quite when they were unhappy
about something. Plain and simple! When a
person is hired to do a job, the employer expects
the employee to work for the money!
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Reply #4 posted 06/13/15 3:07pm

SoulAlive

I think some of these people are probably happy when the Prince ride is over.The best example is Sheila E.She seems totally free and happy...doing her own thing on her own terms.....releasing music,playing shows,enjoying herself.She has proven that there is life after Prince.

Sure,being in the Prince camp is great and all,but it has its' downside too.We've all heard the stories.

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Reply #5 posted 06/13/15 4:39pm

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There are diverse situations.
Some had more of an emotional/personal connection.
I remember Lisa saying she broke down and cried when it hit her she would not be back to Minneapolis that way anymore.

Of course she & Wendy have a wonderful career working with some of the best out there.
I think in general Prince had more of an emotional connection with most from the 80s, which is why he seemed to need to disconnect...
Some/many from the 90s had bad breaks as far as not being paid. From Levi Rosie etc
Too many it was a thing that started and is over. I suspect the best/highest point to have worked with Prince was the 80s.

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Reply #6 posted 06/14/15 5:58am

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Im sure working with a genius is the best job you could ever have, yet, working with Prince's rollercoaster of communication issues can be dissatisfying and plus the late work hours and little pay can be stressful. They take a chance by stepping out on their own and unfortunately they are viewed as being a protege and not an artist in their own right. But when youve worked with Prince you have to be a really special talent to thrive and be reliable on yourself and create a sound of your own. I wonder how much his band members get paid.
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Reply #7 posted 06/14/15 9:12am

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I just think of somebody like Tamar. Who would so prominently featured in the 3121
Project. Tv, prominently featured on the album... An album ready to be released ... And then poof. Nothing.
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Reply #8 posted 06/14/15 12:16pm

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Fury said:

I just think of somebody like Tamar. Who would so prominently featured in the 3121 Project. Tv, prominently featured on the album... An album ready to be released ... And then poof. Nothing.

I think that,nowadays,being a Prince protege really doesn't mean much.In the 80s,people really paid attention to Prince's proteges.These days,when we hear about Prince producing a new female artist,nobody cares about it.Tamar,Bria,Andy,Judith.....the general public couldn't care less.I know it's unfair,but that's the way it is.

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Reply #9 posted 06/15/15 5:12am

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SoulAlive said:

Fury said:

I just think of somebody like Tamar. Who would so prominently featured in the 3121 Project. Tv, prominently featured on the album... An album ready to be released ... And then poof. Nothing.

I think that,nowadays,being a Prince protege really doesn't mean much.In the 80s,people really paid attention to Prince's proteges.These days,when we hear about Prince producing a new female artist,nobody cares about it.Tamar,Bria,Andy,Judith.....the general public couldn't care less.I know it's unfair,but that's the way it is.

I agree those in the camp between 1980 - 1988 had it best

I think we should always judge these by periods 1980s proteges 1990s proteges 2000 proteges

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Reply #10 posted 06/15/15 10:31pm

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SoulAlive said:

I think that,nowadays,being a Prince protege really doesn't mean much.In the 80s,people really paid attention to Prince's proteges.These days,when we hear about Prince producing a new female artist,nobody cares about it.Tamar,Bria,Andy,Judith.....the general public couldn't care less.I know it's unfair,but that's the way it is.

I agree those in the camp between 1980 - 1988 had it best

the best time to have been a Prince protege was from 1981-86.In those days,radio eagerly supported those people because of Prince's own popularity.That's why it was a mistake for Jill Jones' album to come out so late (1987).She wasn't able to take advantage of the Purple Rain hype.

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Reply #11 posted 06/16/15 6:26pm

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SoulAlive said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I agree those in the camp between 1980 - 1988 had it best

the best time to have been a Prince protege was from 1981-86.In those days,radio eagerly supported those people because of Prince's own popularity.That's why it was a mistake for Jill Jones' album to come out so late (1987).She wasn't able to take advantage of the Purple Rain hype.

Yeah......Jill got the short end of the stick. Love that Project!!!!! Imagine if it came out in 84, or even 85!!!!!

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Reply #12 posted 06/16/15 8:48pm

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SoulAlive said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I agree those in the camp between 1980 - 1988 had it best

the best time to have been a Prince protege was from 1981-86.In those days,radio eagerly supported those people because of Prince's own popularity.That's why it was a mistake for Jill Jones' album to come out so late (1987).She wasn't able to take advantage of the Purple Rain hype.

Yes that period was perfect.
Once the Revolution was disbanded the protege scene dropped off.
Madhouse really couldn't go forward 100% because they were all in Prince's band except for Dale Alexander.

Whether Jill did it intentionally or not, she was pretty seperated from what was happening in the world of Sign o the Times (except for that Hard Life movie) Just maybe her album would have been more noticed if she was opening for Prince sometimes or there was more interconnection. She wasn't strong enough to hold it on her own as a lead. The Time was a machine(the whole band were known as the proteges) Vanity 6(same thing and connected to the Time live) and interconnection with Prince & the noituloveR -3 ladies with the Time machine behind them with a chemistry. Vanity was actually a frontman with lots of chemistry with the ladies and band(and of course Prince) and her character was very commanding. Sheila E a percussionist, her band being very upfront with her in the music, the music very interconnected to Prince's music, the look etc etc the Family and Mazarati the same thing. Jill Jones was too disconnected to what Prince was doing, the band not so connected like the previous proteges etc and the timing was just off. If she had her album in that 1982-1986 period it would have been like the family or Sheila E etc probably had others from the camp in her band Mico Jonathon Melvoin etc

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woogiebear said:

SoulAlive said:

the best time to have been a Prince protege was from 1981-86.In those days,radio eagerly supported those people because of Prince's own popularity.That's why it was a mistake for Jill Jones' album to come out so late (1987).She wasn't able to take advantage of the Purple Rain hype.

Yeah......Jill got the short end of the stick. Love that Project!!!!! Imagine if it came out in 84, or even 85!!!!!

cool

Definately would have been a different playlist and sound that meshed with what Prince was doing for whichever year it would have been released.

a 1983 album and/or an 1985/86 album

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Reply #14 posted 06/24/15 6:49pm

luvsexy4all

if they talented enough...

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Reply #15 posted 07/03/15 1:12am

NorthC

Uptown magazine interviewed Owen Husney and he said that this was the effect Prince had on people: because he was a superstar, he made everyone around him believe they could be superstars as well. He didn't mean to do it, it just happened. So people like Andre and Morris left P thinking,"if he can do it, so can I!" And of course it doesn't work like that...
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