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Thread started 06/06/15 9:34am

aaroncanderson

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Any Love for the Elixir album?

I listened to this album again for the first time in awhile and I have to say this album isn't bad at all. I like every song on it and love Home, Elixir, Here eye Come and All This Love. This is a straight up pure R&B album that if Prince sung the vocals would have been an amazing album. I can get more joy from this album than the Black Album any day.

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Reply #1 posted 06/06/15 11:04pm

anthonyspeaks

aaroncanderson said:

I listened to this album again for the first time in awhile and I have to say this album isn't bad at all. I like every song on it and love Home, Elixir, Here eye Come and All This Love. This is a straight up pure R&B album that if Prince sung the vocals would have been an amazing album. I can get more joy from this album than the Black Album any day.

I COMPLETELY agree. There was some much criticism on the org about this album. I put it on one night and let it play all the way thru and was very pleased and impressed. Also Josh and Cora played on this album and their playing was pretty damn good. Alot of orgers criticized them, but they were tight. i wish Prince had done his own r&b album with them. Elixer was/is a solid album.

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Reply #2 posted 06/07/15 7:06am

nyse

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Here I come is a nasty little song yet so beautiful musically.
bria hasagreat tone in her voice. This album is bashed too much
by spoiled fans. We got it for free with lotus flower package.
cant complain
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Reply #3 posted 06/08/15 2:37pm

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anthonyspeaks said:

aaroncanderson said:

I listened to this album again for the first time in awhile and I have to say this album isn't bad at all. I like every song on it and love Home, Elixir, Here eye Come and All This Love. This is a straight up pure R&B album that if Prince sung the vocals would have been an amazing album. I can get more joy from this album than the Black Album any day.

I COMPLETELY agree. There was some much criticism on the org about this album. I put it on one night and let it play all the way thru and was very pleased and impressed. Also Josh and Cora played on this album and their playing was pretty damn good. Alot of orgers criticized them, but they were tight. i wish Prince had done his own r&b album with them. Elixer was/is a solid album.

It was a good adult R&B album - which means it was missed by alot of Prince fans because they want dance or rock and have no palette for this quality of music. Not unlike Xpectation and NEWS, it is a Prince production that is more than most common music listeners can comprehend or appreciate.

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Reply #4 posted 06/09/15 10:25am

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Would be a good album without the nail on a chalkboard Bria. She completely ruined it!
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Reply #5 posted 06/10/15 4:17am

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I've always enjoyed this album, good songs, ok voice, not amazing but not terrible either.

[Edited 6/10/15 4:17am]

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Reply #6 posted 06/11/15 5:26am

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rlittler81 said:

I've always enjoyed this album, good songs, ok voice, not amazing but not terrible either.

[Edited 6/10/15 4:17am]

Agreed Bria's voice isn't Erika Badu or Selena good but how many truly amazing vocalists are out there? I think her voice was perfect for that album, it brought the lyrics to life. I have done the deed with my girl to this album and N.E.W.S more than any other album. This is a baby making album. The bass lines throughout drip of sex. I think people try to compare this to the other two albums it came with and they shouldn't. This is a straight up let's get it on album a la Keith Sweat, Guy and R. Kelly. That's it, put it on, take your clothes off and enjoy this free gift from Prince.

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Reply #7 posted 06/15/15 8:37am

luvsexy4all

if i ever listen to it .ill post my review

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Reply #8 posted 06/15/15 11:40am

emesem

Immersion is an amazing track. Love that one.

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Reply #9 posted 06/16/15 9:55am

BlackSweat86

BEAUTIFUL ALBUM.

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Reply #10 posted 06/16/15 1:52pm

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I love it. Even with Bria on it. lol Nah, she's ok.

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Reply #11 posted 06/17/15 2:24pm

purplepolitici
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Very chill record. 2nite used to get on my nerves, but I don't mind it now. Some decent tunes up there nod. Here Eye Come = jerkoff

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Reply #12 posted 06/18/15 7:03pm

EddieC

I don't remember ever seeing much but love for it, honestly--at least from people who actually listened to it. Not "it's the greatest thing ever" love, but generally who listened to it seemed to like it pretty well.

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Most of the hate seemed to come along with declarations that the "reviewer" never listened to the disc, or listened to the first 20 seconds, or didn't even download it from the site, blah, blah, blah.

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Reply #13 posted 06/19/15 12:08pm

Superfan1984

I liked it a lot.
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Reply #14 posted 06/19/15 1:01pm

sheilaE4eva

I never hated this album as much as others did when it came out.

I wasn't aware of this thread but happened to listen to it again yesterday out of the blue and it has aged well in my opinion. I like it even more now.

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Reply #15 posted 06/19/15 6:38pm

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EddieC said:

I don't remember ever seeing much but love for it, honestly--at least from people who actually listened to it. Not "it's the greatest thing ever" love, but generally who listened to it seemed to like it pretty well.

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Most of the hate seemed to come along with declarations that the "reviewer" never listened to the disc, or listened to the first 20 seconds, or didn't even download it from the site, blah, blah, blah.

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it always amazes me how people were big enough prince fans (still) to buy the lotusflower package

yet somehow not big enough fans to listen to this album 1 single time biggrin an album which, at the end
of the day, prince completely wrote arranged produced and performed (except the lead vocals and a

contribution here and there from cora and josh etc). the album even has a duet with prince lol but no, many people never listened to it rolleyes well, i think they're missing out because it's a very nice
little protege disc. overall good, solid song selection, a few excellent ones and a whole lot nicer to

listen to all the way through than MPLSound.

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Reply #16 posted 06/22/15 3:26am

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I love the whole album, it's sophisticated and elegant nod

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Reply #17 posted 06/22/15 3:50pm

sexton

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IstenSzek said:

EddieC said:

I don't remember ever seeing much but love for it, honestly--at least from people who actually listened to it. Not "it's the greatest thing ever" love, but generally who listened to it seemed to like it pretty well.

.

Most of the hate seemed to come along with declarations that the "reviewer" never listened to the disc, or listened to the first 20 seconds, or didn't even download it from the site, blah, blah, blah.

.

it always amazes me how people were big enough prince fans (still) to buy the lotusflower package

yet somehow not big enough fans to listen to this album 1 single time biggrin an album which, at the end
of the day, prince completely wrote arranged produced and performed (except the lead vocals and a

contribution here and there from cora and josh etc). the album even has a duet with prince lol but no, many people never listened to it rolleyes well, i think they're missing out because it's a very nice
little protege disc. overall good, solid song selection, a few excellent ones and a whole lot nicer to

listen to all the way through than MPLSound.


You must be referring to me since we talked in another thread how I had not heard Elixir yet. razz Well, I have since played the album--actually, the same amount of times I played MPLSound--once. I don't think I missed much.

As for why I waited so long to listen to it in the first place, that's because we all know Prince saves his best material for himself. How many fans prefer protégé albums largely written and produced by Prince over the ones he released under his own name in the same year? Who likes Apollonia 6 more than Purple Rain? Jill Jones more than Sign O The Times? Carmen Electra more than prince ? Child Of The Sun more than The Gold Experience? There may be a few oddballs out there who do, but the majority of us agree Prince's corresponding albums were better, much better. So after being very disappointed with MPLSound, I was not at all motivated to listen to an album of tracks Prince didn't think were as good.

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Reply #18 posted 06/22/15 6:52pm

IstenSzek

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sexton said:

IstenSzek said:

it always amazes me how people were big enough prince fans (still) to buy the lotusflower package

yet somehow not big enough fans to listen to this album 1 single time biggrin an album which, at the end
of the day, prince completely wrote arranged produced and performed (except the lead vocals and a

contribution here and there from cora and josh etc). the album even has a duet with prince lol but no, many people never listened to it rolleyes well, i think they're missing out because it's a very nice
little protege disc. overall good, solid song selection, a few excellent ones and a whole lot nicer to

listen to all the way through than MPLSound.


You must be referring to me since we talked in another thread how I had not heard Elixir yet. razz Well, I have since played the album--actually, the same amount of times I played MPLSound--once. I don't think I missed much.

As for why I waited so long to listen to it in the first place, that's because we all know Prince saves his best material for himself. How many fans prefer protégé albums largely written and produced by Prince over the ones he released under his own name in the same year? Who likes Apollonia 6 more than Purple Rain? Jill Jones more than Sign O The Times? Carmen Electra more than prince ? Child Of The Sun more than The Gold Experience? There may be a few oddballs out there who do, but the majority of us agree Prince's corresponding albums were better, much better. So after being very disappointed with MPLSound, I was not at all motivated to listen to an album of tracks Prince didn't think were as good.


hmm, that is a convincing argument indeed smile i can see now why people wouldn't listen to the disc.

nod

i too think all those prince albums are better than their corresponding protege albums. even with

elixir. the lotusflower title disc is one of my favorite prince albums ever. i guess i just think much

of elixir since i thought Mplsound was such a shitty album smile

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Reply #19 posted 06/22/15 7:57pm

EddieC

sexton said:

As for why I waited so long to listen to it in the first place, that's because we all know Prince saves his best material for himself. How many fans prefer protégé albums largely written and produced by Prince over the ones he released under his own name in the same year? Who likes Apollonia 6 more than Purple Rain? Jill Jones more than Sign O The Times? Carmen Electra more than prince ? Child Of The Sun more than The Gold Experience? There may be a few oddballs out there who do, but the majority of us agree Prince's corresponding albums were better, much better. So after being very disappointed with MPLSound, I was not at all motivated to listen to an album of tracks Prince didn't think were as good.

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Well... no, I probably don't consider any of the protege ALBUMS better than the corresponding Prince album. BUT I often do like the best of the songs on the protege albums more than some or even most of the songs on the Prince albums. The Prince albums may be more consistent--he's willing to put some pretty flimsy things on protege albums, while he usually keeps from putting the weakest of his current crop of songs on his own albums--but he usually puts some pretty strong things on associated artist albums, too (Carmen Electra's album might be an exception). The very best might get saved for his album, but he usually puts a few pretty good things on the others. The lows might be lower on a protege album, but the highs can be pretty high--and are an important part (for me) of who Prince is--more than a lackluster track on his own album is.

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I also don't think I probably agree with the idea that Elixer (or most of the other spin-off albums) are collections "of tracks Prince didn't think were as good." I just don't think that's how they work. Some tracks are mediocre "I just had it sitting around" tracks--but I don't think that's ever been the majority on any of the albums. And I'm pretty sure it wasn't with Elixer.

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Reply #20 posted 06/22/15 8:23pm

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IstenSzek said:

sexton said:


You must be referring to me since we talked in another thread how I had not heard Elixir yet. razz Well, I have since played the album--actually, the same amount of times I played MPLSound--once. I don't think I missed much.

As for why I waited so long to listen to it in the first place, that's because we all know Prince saves his best material for himself. How many fans prefer protégé albums largely written and produced by Prince over the ones he released under his own name in the same year? Who likes Apollonia 6 more than Purple Rain? Jill Jones more than Sign O The Times? Carmen Electra more than prince ? Child Of The Sun more than The Gold Experience? There may be a few oddballs out there who do, but the majority of us agree Prince's corresponding albums were better, much better. So after being very disappointed with MPLSound, I was not at all motivated to listen to an album of tracks Prince didn't think were as good.


hmm, that is a convincing argument indeed smile i can see now why people wouldn't listen to the disc.

nod

i too think all those prince albums are better than their corresponding protege albums. even with

elixir. the lotusflower title disc is one of my favorite prince albums ever. i guess i just think much

of elixir since i thought Mplsound was such a shitty album smile


In all honesty, I didn't think Elixir was terrible. Bland maybe (which is my opinion of most of Prince's 00s output), but not terrible. It's still on the mp3 player so I'm going to give it another spin on the way home tonight.

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Reply #21 posted 06/22/15 8:42pm

sexton

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EddieC said:

sexton said:

As for why I waited so long to listen to it in the first place, that's because we all know Prince saves his best material for himself. How many fans prefer protégé albums largely written and produced by Prince over the ones he released under his own name in the same year? Who likes Apollonia 6 more than Purple Rain? Jill Jones more than Sign O The Times? Carmen Electra more than prince ? Child Of The Sun more than The Gold Experience? There may be a few oddballs out there who do, but the majority of us agree Prince's corresponding albums were better, much better. So after being very disappointed with MPLSound, I was not at all motivated to listen to an album of tracks Prince didn't think were as good.

[Edited 6/22/15 15:51pm]

Well... no, I probably don't consider any of the protege ALBUMS better than the corresponding Prince album. BUT I often do like the best of the songs on the protege albums more than some or even most of the songs on the Prince albums. The Prince albums may be more consistent--he's willing to put some pretty flimsy things on protege albums, while he usually keeps from putting the weakest of his current crop of songs on his own albums--but he usually puts some pretty strong things on associated artist albums, too (Carmen Electra's album might be an exception). The very best might get saved for his album, but he usually puts a few pretty good things on the others. The lows might be lower on a protege album, but the highs can be pretty high--and are an important part (for me) of who Prince is--more than a lackluster track on his own album is.

.

I also don't think I probably agree with the idea that Elixer (or most of the other spin-off albums) are collections "of tracks Prince didn't think were as good." I just don't think that's how they work. Some tracks are mediocre "I just had it sitting around" tracks--but I don't think that's ever been the majority on any of the albums. And I'm pretty sure it wasn't with Elixer.


I'm not saying the protégé albums are crap of course. I like Jill Jones more than many of Prince's albums from the 90s. I do think however that if Prince thought a song was killer, he would keep it for himself like how he kept "Kiss" after initially offering it to Mazarati. It doesn't sound like we are disagreeing here.

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Reply #22 posted 06/23/15 5:12am

EddieC

sexton said:

EddieC said:

Well... no, I probably don't consider any of the protege ALBUMS better than the corresponding Prince album. BUT I often do like the best of the songs on the protege albums more than some or even most of the songs on the Prince albums. The Prince albums may be more consistent--he's willing to put some pretty flimsy things on protege albums, while he usually keeps from putting the weakest of his current crop of songs on his own albums--but he usually puts some pretty strong things on associated artist albums, too (Carmen Electra's album might be an exception). The very best might get saved for his album, but he usually puts a few pretty good things on the others. The lows might be lower on a protege album, but the highs can be pretty high--and are an important part (for me) of who Prince is--more than a lackluster track on his own album is.

.

I also don't think I probably agree with the idea that Elixer (or most of the other spin-off albums) are collections "of tracks Prince didn't think were as good." I just don't think that's how they work. Some tracks are mediocre "I just had it sitting around" tracks--but I don't think that's ever been the majority on any of the albums. And I'm pretty sure it wasn't with Elixer.


I'm not saying the protégé albums are crap of course. I like Jill Jones more than many of Prince's albums from the 90s. I do think however that if Prince thought a song was killer, he would keep it for himself like how he kept "Kiss" after initially offering it to Mazarati. It doesn't sound like we are disagreeing here.

No, we're not disagreeing. The very best tracks from a period are almost certainly on the "Prince" labeled album. But I think all the protege albums are worth a listen (well, more than A listen), not just because they almost certainly contain some pretty good tracks, but also because they show where Prince's head is at and sometimes where he might be heading.

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Reply #23 posted 06/27/15 3:14pm

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i like it all bar 2nite.

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Reply #24 posted 06/27/15 9:31pm

EddieC

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i like it all bar 2nite.

Actually, that's my position on it, too. So, of course, that's the single and the one I have multiple mixes of. Ah well.

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Reply #25 posted 07/03/15 2:46pm

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Elixir is the best thing about Lotusflow3r

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