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Thread started 04/06/15 3:07pm

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Around the World In A Day: A conspiracy against Brown Mark?

So... was Brown mark the only member of the band not represented on the cover? If this is true, why the omission? Between the lack of representation on the cover and having no lines in Purple Rain would give anyone a complex I would think confused

I'm basing this question/assumption on how band members were dressed during the Raspberry Beret video versus the AITWIAD album cover characters. eek

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Reply #1 posted 04/06/15 3:23pm

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I always had the impression that the figures on the ATWIAD cover were "mixes" of the real band members. The figure in the long white coat for example has the head of Prince, but the green doctor's suit of Fink. The figure in the blue/white cloud suit amd cloud guitar represented Mark Brown, at least as I interpreted...and than in the Raspberry Beret video, Prince had on the cloud-suit! That was nice about the Purple world back than. Nothing was what it seemed and mystery was the key word. And the psychedelic concept of ATWIAD threw in some extra weirdness. Controversy!

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Reply #2 posted 04/06/15 3:34pm

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That cloud suite person was BrownMark,

Wendy Lisa & BrownMark got Bside photos for Parade though

And of course he got more front and center stage presence than those in the back in Purple Rain

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Reply #3 posted 04/06/15 3:48pm

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yes Mark is the guy with the cloud suit. Real question is why does Prince get three versions of himself.

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emesem said:

yes Mark is the guy with the cloud suit. Real question is why does Prince get three versions of himself.



because they weren't called "Brownmark and the Revolution" lol

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Reply #5 posted 04/06/15 4:14pm

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This video painfully points towards Brown Mark's Purple Rain exclusion at the 1:57 mark mad
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Reply #6 posted 04/06/15 4:28pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

That cloud suite person was BrownMark

Was that formally confirmed by TPTB? I know you know your stuff but I always suspected that people were speculating on this issue when I received that feedback in the past.

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Reply #7 posted 04/06/15 5:12pm

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Averett said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

That cloud suite person was BrownMark

Was that formally confirmed by TPTB? I know you know your stuff but I always suspected that people were speculating on this issue when I received that feedback in the past.

[Edited 4/6/15 16:50pm]

Yeah there was some big thing on it, I think by the artist

Sheila E is also up there

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Reply #8 posted 04/06/15 5:41pm

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Brown Mark is noticeably absent from the LRC and 1999 videos, too. pout

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Reply #9 posted 04/06/15 5:51pm

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Averett said:

This video painfully points towards Brown Mark's Purple Rain exclusion at the 1:57 mark mad
I sense forces at play here boxed




giggle

[Edited 4/6/15 17:55pm]

Here's what bothers ME:

Prince died of an overdose of the drug Fentanyl. Of which, it is very highly fucking likely that he never even knew he'd taken.
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Reply #10 posted 04/06/15 6:09pm

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I always thought Brownmark was the one in the white hood, in the upper right of the cover, peeking out between the other two dudes.

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Reply #11 posted 04/06/15 6:38pm

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EroticDreamer said:

Brown Mark is noticeably absent from the LRC and 1999 videos, too. pout

0.) Those R 2 Bad A$$ videos

1.) U R not serious

2.) U R going by memory from a long time ago

3.) U just want someone 2 post some pix of BrownMark because 4 BrownMark U Lust Always

4.) Little Red Corvette, BrownMark was spinning up a whirlwind to Prince's right throught the video

5.) BrownMark was the 2nd band member shown in the 1999 video

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UncleJam said:

I always thought Brownmark was the one in the white hood, in the upper right of the cover, peeking out between the other two dudes.

I always thought that looked like Jesse Johnson

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Reply #13 posted 04/06/15 6:41pm

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Let's look at this more closely:

1) Lisa Coleman

2) Nasty Ass Prince/Sheila E/Miko??? lol

3) Wendy Melvoin

4) Bobby Z

5) Dr. Fink

6) Dressed like Prince from Raspberry Beret but Brown Mark??? (outside the suit, does not resemble either person)

7) Prince/Michael Jackson/Brown Mark/Jesse Johnson??? (I suspect Prince but up for debate)

8) ???

9) ???

10) The Nipple heart

Feedback on the character breakdown is welcomed as I merely wish to get to the bottom of the Brown Mark slight that I've addressed at the top of the thread cool

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Reply #15 posted 04/06/15 6:46pm

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Who was the artist of the ATWIAD cover? Maybe we can ask the source.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #16 posted 04/06/15 6:55pm

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Averett said:

Let's look at this more closely:

1) Lisa Coleman

2) Nasty Ass Prince/Sheila E/Miko??? lol

3) Wendy Melvoin

4) Bobby Z

5) Dr. Fink

6) Dressed like Prince from Raspberry Beret but Brown Mark??? (outside the suite, does not resemble either person)

7) Prince/Michael Jackson/Brown Mark/Jesse Johnson??? (I suspect Prince but up for debate)

8) ???

9) ???

10) The Nipple heart

Feedback on the character breakdown is welcomed as I merely wish to get to the bottom of the Brown Mark slight that I've addressed at the top of the thread cool

[Edited 4/6/15 18:43pm]

lol NICE

None of the faces on the bodies look like the actual persons in my opinion

1.) Lisa Coleman's RB outfit definately not her face(she is skilled in string orchastra arrangements though)

2.) Definately Sheila E's Glamorous risque outfit, she had red hair too/so did Suzie(her keyboardist) but the face always reminds me of Vanity

3.) Wendy Melvoins RB outfit, but I originally thought Apollonia's face back in 1985

but I also know Clara Bow(Condition of the Heart) there was some twin Wendy/Susannah connection. The face looks like Clara Bow

4.) Bobby Z RB outfit, and Parade hairstyle, but that face also reminds me of one of Prince's inspirations: Charlie Chapman

5.) Dr Fink outfit forever of course even the hair and shades, but the face is of an aged Prince

6.) Prince's RB outfit, brown man,

7.) I always though Jesse Johnson too

8.) Eddie M?

9.) Jerome Benton?

10.) the girl on the seasaw Prince & Wendy's PR tour outfit, face(Taj Sevelle maybe)

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lezama said:

Who was the artist of the ATWIAD cover? Maybe we can ask the source.

Doug Henders

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Reply #18 posted 04/06/15 7:01pm

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Here's what I found:

https://www.facebook.com/...6576150010

"Illustrator Doug Henders was asked to create the cover art for Around the World in A day shortly before Christmas 1984. He was given a brief 15-point outline from Prince with some ideas of what he wanted graphically. "The process of creating the cover work and the rock trip (Purple Rain tour) itself were very gruelling," says Henders. "I think that's reflected in the melancholic rendering of the painting." Inspiration came from amongs cartoon images and the surrealistic landscapes René Magritte [early twentieth century Belgian surrealist painter]

For some of the images, Henders snapped Polaroid photos of Revolution band members and people close to the band. Then he slightly altered the face or real-life features for the painting. "Most of the figures on the cover are characters in the songs, but I think some of the people Prince wanted are parts of himself, so they're all of a piece and somewhat autobiographical," Henders explains. "The little puppy in the picture was added simply because Princ got himself a dog while on the road.""

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From Wendy&Lisa.com

Uptown #37 Spring 1999

David J. Magdzairz

"Doug Henders was asked to create the cover art for around the world in a day shortly before Christmas 1984. He was given a brief 15-point outline from Prince with some ideas of what he wanted graphically. "The process of creating the coverwork and the rock trip (Purple Rain tour) itself were very gruelling." says Henders. "I think that's reflected in the melancholic rendering of the painting."

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For some of the images, Henders snapped polaroids of the Revolution band members and people close to the band. Then he slightly altered the faces or real life features for the painting. "Most of the figures of on the cover are characters in the songs, but I think some of the people Prince wanted are parts of himself, so they are all of a piece and someone autobiographical." Henders explains. "The litte puppy in the picture was added simply because Prince got himself a dog while on the road."
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I was told that dog was given to Jill Jones, or was was the one she had in Purple Rain.

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Reply #20 posted 04/06/15 7:18pm

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Purple Rain fun fact:

http://www.imdb.com/title...957/trivia (go to the very last fun fact)

Or I'll save you a trip...

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Reply #21 posted 04/06/15 7:28pm

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Definately BrownMarks face (those eyebrows)

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#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Definately BrownMarks face (those eyebrows)

Perhaps but the hair throws me off a bit hmmm

BTW, just in case we thought the Parade era was any kinder to Brown Mark...

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Reply #24 posted 04/06/15 7:54pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:



Averett said:


Let's look at this more closely:



1) Lisa Coleman


2) Nasty Ass Prince/Sheila E/Miko??? lol


3) Wendy Melvoin


4) Bobby Z


5) Dr. Fink


6) Dressed like Prince from Raspberry Beret but Brown Mark??? (outside the suite, does not resemble either person)


7) Prince/Michael Jackson/Brown Mark/Jesse Johnson??? (I suspect Prince but up for debate)


8) ???


9) ???


10) The Nipple heart



Feedback on the character breakdown is welcomed as I merely wish to get to the bottom of the Brown Mark slight that I've addressed at the top of the thread cool





[Edited 4/6/15 18:43pm]





lol NICE



None of the faces on the bodies look like the actual persons in my opinion


1.) Lisa Coleman's RB outfit definately not her face(she is skilled in string orchastra arrangements though)


2.) Definately Sheila E's Glamorous risque outfit, she had red hair too/so did Suzie(her keyboardist) but the face always reminds me of Vanity


3.) Wendy Melvoins RB outfit, but I originally thought Apollonia's face back in 1985


but I also know Clara Bow(Condition of the Heart) there was some twin Wendy/Susannah connection. The face looks like Clara Bow



4.) Bobby Z RB outfit, and Parade hairstyle, but that face also reminds me of one of Prince's inspirations: Charlie Chapman


5.) Dr Fink outfit forever of course even the hair and shades, but the face is of an aged Prince


6.) Prince's RB outfit, brown man,


7.) I always though Jesse Johnson too


8.) Eddie M?


9.) Jerome Benton?


10.) the girl on the seasaw Prince & Wendy's PR tour outfit, face(Taj Sevelle maybe)







Jill Jones is crying, and who is wearing the raspberry beret?
What?
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Reply #25 posted 04/06/15 8:00pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:






Why would I notice anyone else. lol
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Reply #26 posted 04/06/15 8:03pm

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I remember an interview that BrownMark did in 1987,after he had left the Revolution.He seemed kinda pissed off at his somewhat minimal role in The Revolution.He pointed out that Wendy comes into the band,gets all these lines in Purple Rain and is suddenly a star,appearing on the cover of Rolling Stone with Prince.He also said that in 1986,Stevie Nicks offered him "three times what I making in The Revolution" to join her band,but he stayed and did the Parade tour anyway (out of loyalty) eek

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OldFriends4Sale said:

EroticDreamer said:

Brown Mark is noticeably absent from the LRC and 1999 videos, too. pout

0.) Those R 2 Bad A$$ videos

1.) U R not serious

2.) U R going by memory from a long time ago

3.) U just want someone 2 post some pix of BrownMark because 4 BrownMark U Lust Always

4.) Little Red Corvette, BrownMark was spinning up a whirlwind to Prince's right throught the video

5.) BrownMark was the 2nd band member shown in the 1999 video

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So true! oral

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Averett said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Definately BrownMarks face (those eyebrows)

Perhaps but the hair throws me off a bit hmmm

BTW, just in case we thought the Parade era was any kinder to Brown Mark...

LMAO

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Reply #29 posted 04/08/15 7:09am

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lol at people being so literal.

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