Can you believe this song was originally written for Apollonia 6 in 1984?

How different do you think it would have been if Apples had covered-it? Is there an Apollonia 6 version that was actually recorded???

Initial tracking for Prince's original version took place on 4 February, 1984 at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA (the day before recording Ooo She She Wa Wa); the song was intended for Apollonia 6 (as a duet between Prince and Apollonia), and was included as the third track on the 29 February, 1984 and Spring 1984 configurations of the Apollonia 6 album, but was withdrawn from the album prior to release.

The Bangles' version of Manic Monday was mostly re-recorded (information on recording dates and location are needed), but it features some of Prince's original backing tracks (Brenda Bennett's background vocals can still be heard on the released version).

Apollonia 6 version

• Apollonia - vocals
• Prince - vocals and all instruments
• Brenda Bennett - background vocals

Yes an Apollonia 6 version was recorded

Brenda Bennett recently said that she wasn't too fond of this track.She felt it was too "poppy" and that it didn't fit on the Apollonia 6 album.I agree with her.

SoulAlive said:

Brenda Bennett recently said that she wasn't too fond of this track.She felt it was too "poppy" and that it didn't fit on the Apollonia 6 album.I agree with her.

not much different from Take Me With U though

I think if the A6 album had the original playlist it would fit.

A6 as we know it really didn't have any direction to me, almost like Ice Cream Castles.

They don't tell a story like What Time Is It? Vanity 6, Glamorous Life

OldFriends4Sale said:

SoulAlive said:

Brenda Bennett recently said that she wasn't too fond of this track.She felt it was too "poppy" and that it didn't fit on the Apollonia 6 album.I agree with her.

not much different from Take Me With U though

I think if the A6 album had the original playlist it would fit.

A6 as we know it really didn't have any direction to me, almost like Ice Cream Castles.

They don't tell a story like What Time Is It? Vanity 6, Glamorous Life

I agree,and I think I know why.It has to do with Vanity's departure.If she had stayed,the album probably would have have been more provocative and funky,with songs like "Vibrator" and "G-Spot".When Apollonia came on board,Prince changed the direction of the album.He wanted a cleaner,more "pop"-styled album and that's why songs like "Manic Monday" and "Take Me With U" were considered.The end result is that,the A6 album has some great moments but like you said,it's not entirely focused.

SoulAlive said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

not much different from Take Me With U though

I think if the A6 album had the original playlist it would fit.

A6 as we know it really didn't have any direction to me, almost like Ice Cream Castles.

They don't tell a story like What Time Is It? Vanity 6, Glamorous Life

I agree,and I think I know why.It has to do with Vanity's departure.If she had stayed,the album probably would have have been more provocative and funky,with songs like "Vibrator" and "G-Spot".When Apollonia came on board,Prince changed the direction of the album.He wanted a cleaner,more "pop"-styled album and that's why songs like "Manic Monday" and "Take Me With U" were considered.The end result is that,the A6 album has some great moments but like you said,it's not entirely focused.

I was looking at some V6 photos vs A6 photos and even in the style and how they looked together -you can see a difference in flow and connection. V6 just kills it.

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side question: the script before Vanity's departure had G-Spot as a song that is sung by Prince & the Revolution along with Electric Intercourse. Seems this song had a a lot of destinations in it's time. Was GSpot really going to be a Vanity 6 piece?

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I can easily see/hear Vanity leading this being a vain diva which would add a whole bad girl image to the song. Even though it's a pretty naughty song anyway. I can envision a Vanity 6 album, even if 1/2 or most of the songs wouldn't be in the movie as having some kind of background story connected to the movie. With all the deleted scenes I always wonder what songs would have fit them. I strongly believe If the Kid Can't Make U Come as the Barn scene music.

I'm glad he gave it to someone who could sing.

Genesia said:

I'm glad he gave it to someone who could sing.

A Prince + Jill Jones duet would have been a nice Bside

OldFriends4Sale said:

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side question: the script before Vanity's departure had G-Spot as a song that is sung by Prince & the Revolution along with Electric Intercourse. Seems this song had a a lot of destinations in it's time. Was G-Spot really going to be a Vanity 6 piece?

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I can easily see/hear Vanity leading this being a vain diva which would add a whole bad girl image to the song. Even though it's a pretty naughty song anyway.

You're correct,"G-Spot" was originally a Prince and The Revolution song,to be performed by them in the movie (later replaced by "Computer Blue").But on one of my bootlegs,the V6 song "Vibrator" is followed by the music to "G-Spot",but then it abruptly cuts off This makes me think that,at a certain point,Prince may have decided to give the song to Vanity 6.I can certainly see this song appearing on a second V6 album,alongside tracks like "Sex Shooter" and "Vibrator".Those three songs could have made up Side One.They appear to be thematically linked.I think the song works better being sung by a woman,anyway,lol.

The song is a hit no matter who would have had it. I bet it could have been the pop breakthrough track on Apollonia 6's otherwise very funky album.

BUT I love the changes the Bangles made to the track.

TIME IT GOES SO FAST

If Warner Bros re-release the Apollonia 6 CD they could put Manic Monday on it as a bonus track. That would be brilliant!

FormerlyKnownAs said:

Can you believe this song was originally written for Apollonia 6 in 1984?

How different do you think it would have been if Apples had covered-it? Is there an Apollonia 6 version that was actually recorded???

It's circulating, though with a relatively poor sound quality. 's vocals are also there, it's a bit of a duet like Take Me With U. It's slower than the Bangles' version but other wise quite similar. The background vox on The Bangles's version, though uncredited, are actually from that version alongside a few other instrumental tracks that's been kept. I'm also not 100% sure whether the version we have is really slower or if it's been slowed down by bootleggers (but the better sounding version that surfaced in 2012 is still slow, so I guess it was slow in the end). This mid-tempo pace really kills the dynamic of the song if u ask me. It's also quite short (less than 3 mn).

SoulAlive said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

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side question: the script before Vanity's departure had G-Spot as a song that is sung by Prince & the Revolution along with Electric Intercourse. Seems this song had a a lot of destinations in it's time. Was G-Spot really going to be a Vanity 6 piece?

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I can easily see/hear Vanity leading this being a vain diva which would add a whole bad girl image to the song. Even though it's a pretty naughty song anyway.

You're correct,"G-Spot" was originally a Prince and The Revolution song,to be performed by them in the movie (later replaced by "Computer Blue").But on one of my bootlegs,the V6 song "Vibrator" is followed by the music to "G-Spot",but then it abruptly cuts off This makes me think that,at a certain point,Prince may have decided to give the song to Vanity 6.I can certainly see this song appearing on a second V6 album,alongside tracks like "Sex Shooter" and "Vibrator".Those three songs could have made up Side One.They appear to be thematically linked.I think the song works better being sung by a woman,anyway,lol.

True, since after meeting Susannah @ the August 1983 show officially, and making the Beautiful Ones 4 her replacing G-Spot & Electric Intercourse, at that time he probably decided to put it on the Vanity 6 album.. I agree it's sung best by a woman. He's done a good number of songs I always thought were intended for a woman to sing. Songs sung from a womans stand point or certain communications that generally a woman would say to a man.

"G-Spot" is a superb track that would have been a HUGE hit if it had been released back then (in 1983 or 1984),no mattter who sang it.By the time it was finally released on Jill Jones' album in 1987,the 'shock factor' had worn off.It wasn't shocking to see someone with a song called "G-Spot" on their album.

SoulAlive said:

"G-Spot" is a superb track that would have been a HUGE hit if it had been released back then (in 1983 or 1984),no mattter who sang it.By the time it was finally released on Jill Jones' album in 1987,the 'shock factor' had worn off.It wasn't shocking to see someone with a song called "G-Spot" on their album.

Right, but Prince didn't help promo this like I think it should. It definately should have had a duet with him, or at least a video with Jill & Prince and him doing guitar. a steamy sexy SOTT era video would have been enough shock. More than the title it was just a really great song.

OldFriends4Sale said:

SoulAlive said:

"G-Spot" is a superb track that would have been a HUGE hit if it had been released back then (in 1983 or 1984),no mattter who sang it.By the time it was finally released on Jill Jones' album in 1987,the 'shock factor' had worn off.It wasn't shocking to see someone with a song called "G-Spot" on their album.

Right, but Prince didn't help promo this like I think it should. It definately should have had a duet with him, or at least a video with Jill & Prince and him doing guitar. a steamy sexy SOTT era video would have been enough shock. More than the title it was just a really great song.

We live in a strange world.

Just think about it: in 1984 something was innovative and daring and 3 years later it wasn't anymore. In 1987 The Black ALbum could have been a scandal but 7 years later after gangsta rap and Madonna everybody shrug.

The world we live in goes SO fast and it's getting faster every day. U can b avant garde if u release something a year and totally outdated if u release it a year later because in the meantime 10 people will have done it. The very minute a musical trend emerges, it doesn't take 6 months for 100 artists following it.

databank said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Right, but Prince didn't help promo this like I think it should. It definately should have had a duet with him, or at least a video with Jill & Prince and him doing guitar. a steamy sexy SOTT era video would have been enough shock. More than the title it was just a really great song.

We live in a strange world.

Just think about it: in 1984 something was innovative and daring and 3 years later it wasn't anymore. In 1987 The Black ALbum could have been a scandal but 7 years later after gangsta rap and Madonna everybody shrug.

The world we live in goes SO fast and it's getting faster every day. U can b avant garde if u release something a year and totally outdated if u release it a year later because in the meantime 10 people will have done it. The very minute a musical trend emerges, it doesn't take 6 months for 100 artists following it.

timing is everything

SoulAlive said:

databank said:

We live in a strange world.

Just think about it: in 1984 something was innovative and daring and 3 years later it wasn't anymore. In 1987 The Black ALbum could have been a scandal but 7 years later after gangsta rap and Madonna everybody shrug.

The world we live in goes SO fast and it's getting faster every day. U can b avant garde if u release something a year and totally outdated if u release it a year later because in the meantime 10 people will have done it. The very minute a musical trend emerges, it doesn't take 6 months for 100 artists following it.

timing is everything

This is true, I agree

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Interesting, and maybe being a woman she was more open to exploring things in a way men may not. Madonna for a long time did a very good job traversing the climate of social change in the 1990s via her music/videos/concerts etc

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I think of what she did with the Justify My Love/Erotica period as something Prince could have done with the Black album. He might not have been addressing what was happening behind closed doors and in society, but Prince did express a lot of masculine directed anger/lust/intraracial challenges etc thru the Black album.