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Thread started 03/19/14 5:06am

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Jesse Johnson - "Why I left The Time"

THE REASON I LEFT THE TIME/O7

"PANDEMONIUM"
I wrote and recorded the music for the following compositions at my personal studio in Minneapolis named Jungle Love Studio:
"Blondie" & "The Skillet"
(Neither song carried those titles but were later named those by FT)
I would never pen a lyric like Blondie, because even at that time, I found it very derogatory and demeaning. But of course being the only one that felt that way, I'm always within that band labeled difficult.

THE O7ven
Once again music recorded at my private spot, but later lyrics and titles I didn't agree with and YES, I passionately made my feelings known.

AYDKMK- Couldn't relate at this stage of the game.


SICK
Still don't quite know what the h*** that means! cause if it feels that good to me! I'm sure not going to be thinking of something so beautiful as $hit!


LIFE STYLE
I've never been rich enough for anyone to want me for $ sorry! There have been a few times in my life that I've almost been with physically beautiful women cause she had looks + $, but they we're mean and so forth that I ran like they were on fire. Why? I believe wholeheartedly in Karma! You get what you take, sometimes it's better to receive.


ROLEPLAY
I honestly don't remember what that was about...I don't...

The moment you have a daughter/son/children and you are endowed with decent amount of common sense, it should really bring into focus how you view women, man, yourself, and the world!

Love Y'all,
Jesse 🎸

He then went on to say....

BTW I LOVE THE GUYS OF THE TIME!

Morris, Prince and I were like brothers from different mothers.

When Prince and I use to hang he would tell me that he's closer to me than his biological brothers. He also admired how was never jealous of anyone and was cool with just about everybody.

I will always have love & respect for Morris Day because he championed and gave me and got me my first shot in the Biggs!

Terry Lewis will always be a special person to me, because he didn't know from adam, but gave me shelter in his home as one of his own. Plus he's one of the best fathers I know!

You see, where there's real love + respect no amount of disagreements can wash away the seeds of good that was planted when most of us, with exception of Prince, didn't know our a$$ from a whole in the ground.

LovePeace,
Jesse
PS
Jam is an amazing caring father, Morris is a unbelievable father, Jerome, Monte, Bean as well. That part of all the guys in The Time, was the most enjoyable part for me in 2008 Las Vegas.
JJ

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Reply #1 posted 03/19/14 7:10am

kidmelody2012

spoiled brat

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Reply #2 posted 03/19/14 10:34am

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kidmelody2012 said:

spoiled brat


Why? It seems like they had creative differences to me.
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Reply #3 posted 03/19/14 1:09pm

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I love Jesse, but... didn't he say when he first left that it was to do with there not being enough concrete plans ahead as far as the next single, the tour, etc? So he split to the do the D'Angelo tour?

Maybe I'm wrong, but at the time I don't recall him saying that he wasn't happy with the material.

I'd love to see The O7 live. It sucks that only US fans really got the opportunity, and now it likely won't ever happen again. Oh well. Hopefully I'll get a chance to see Morris, Bean and Monte with Tori et al at some point.

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Reply #4 posted 03/19/14 1:20pm

kidmelody2012

yeah but u know he talking about jimmy jam behind his back and it aint cool...

Beautifulstarr123 said:

kidmelody2012 said:

spoiled brat

Why? It seems like they had creative differences to me.

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Reply #5 posted 03/19/14 1:21pm

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I thought he said it was because there were no gigs lined up and he was spending his own money to travel with the group and for clothes. And what's the difference between Lifestyle and Cool? Both are bragging about having fancy things. As far as doing songs that has something to do with a performers' actual life, did Johnny Cash really shoot a man to watch him die, did Michael Jackson go up to gangbangers and tell them to stop what they're doing, did Big Bank Hank have more clothes than Muhammad Ali, and is John Lennon a walrus? lol

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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MickyDolenz said:

I thought he said it was because there were no gigs lined up and he was spending his own money to travel with the group and for clothes. And what's the difference between Lifestyle and Cool? Both are bragging about having fancy things. As far as doing songs that has something to do with a performers' actual life, did Johnny Cash really shoot a man to watch him die, did Michael Jackson go up to gangbangers and tell them to stop what they're doing, did Big Bank Hank have more clothes than Muhammad Ali, and is John Lennon a walrus? lol

That's what I'm saying. The reasons seem different. I don't believe he split because he didn't like what happened with some of the songs. That's part and parcel of being in a band.

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Reply #7 posted 03/19/14 2:16pm

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That's what I'm saying. The reasons seem different. I don't believe he split because he didn't like what happened with some of the songs. That's part and parcel of being in a band.

It's like what does Pandemonium have to do with why he left the Original 7ven? He mentioned his songs Blondie & Skillet being changed to a message he doesn't agree with, but there's Donald Trump and Jerk Out on the same album which are not much different. I'm not really sure why he would have a problem with Skillet. It's about music, not picking up women, and there's a skillet in the movie. razz Maybe Jesse would have been happy if all of the O7 songs were like It's Your World, more of a message thing. But The Time are not U2, people don't listen to them for that. They're a party group.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #8 posted 03/19/14 3:24pm

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kidmelody2012 said:

yeah but u know he talking about jimmy jam behind his back and it aint cool...



Beautifulstarr123 said:


kidmelody2012 said:

spoiled brat



Why? It seems like they had creative differences to me.


When was this? Because it says here he's an amazing father.
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MickyDolenz said:

He mentioned his songs Blondie & Skillet being changed to a message he doesn't agree with, but there's Donald Trump and Jerk Out on the same album

I guess the difference, in Jesse's mind, is that he wrote Blondie and Skillet. He didn't write Jerk Out or Donald Trump (Black Version) so he doesn't have any real feelings about those songs.

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Reply #10 posted 03/19/14 5:18pm

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Militant said:

I guess the difference, in Jesse's mind, is that he wrote Blondie and Skillet. He didn't write Jerk Out or Donald Trump (Black Version) so he doesn't have any real feelings about those songs.

Then as long as he had nothing to do with the writing, then he's ok with performing such songs? So it's like John Lennon saying that Paul McCartney wrote "granny music" and songs about random people, but yet John played on them.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #11 posted 03/19/14 5:52pm

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Militant said:

MickyDolenz said:

I thought he said it was because there were no gigs lined up and he was spending his own money to travel with the group and for clothes. And what's the difference between Lifestyle and Cool? Both are bragging about having fancy things. As far as doing songs that has something to do with a performers' actual life, did Johnny Cash really shoot a man to watch him die, did Michael Jackson go up to gangbangers and tell them to stop what they're doing, did Big Bank Hank have more clothes than Muhammad Ali, and is John Lennon a walrus? lol

That's what I'm saying. The reasons seem different. I don't believe he split because he didn't like what happened with some of the songs. That's part and parcel of being in a band.


And people wonder why some of us gave him a hard time?

His first excuse had something to do with evil and him being a rooster, lol He only brought up the money after he got clowned over that navel gazing bs he posted at first.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #12 posted 03/19/14 6:01pm

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Beautifulstarr123 said:

kidmelody2012 said:

yeah but u know he talking about jimmy jam behind his back and it aint cool...

When was this? Because it says here he's an amazing father.


Girl, you missed the fun because that sure ain't what he said during the whole facebook/o7 debacle.

For once I wish I had twitface or f*ckbook so I could tell him to let it go, have several seats and be satisfied as an insanely talented guitar player. rolleyes It's best that he not reopen this can of worms.

I'm biased though because I could forgive Jimmy Jam anything....Jesse, not so much, lol

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #13 posted 03/19/14 6:11pm

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His first excuse had something to do with evil and him being a rooster,

The rooster is one of the Chinese birth symbols, which are animals. In the music section, it's been posted that Morris is singing on the upcoming Jam & Lewis album, so I guess there's no problem there.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #14 posted 03/19/14 6:44pm

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babynoz said:

His first excuse had something to do with evil and him being a rooster,

The rooster is one of the Chinese birth symbols, which are animals. In the music section, it's been posted that Morris is singing on the upcoming Jam & Lewis album, so I guess there's no problem there.


I knooow that! It's the Chinese Zodiac. I'm just clowning Jesse....you have got to lighten up sometimes, lol

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #15 posted 03/20/14 7:51am

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babynoz said:



Beautifulstarr123 said:


kidmelody2012 said:

yeah but u know he talking about jimmy jam behind his back and it aint cool...




When was this? Because it says here he's an amazing father.


Girl, you missed the fun because that sure ain't what he said during the whole facebook/o7 debacle.

For once I wish I had twitface or f*ckbook so I could tell him to let it go, have several seats and be satisfied as an insanely talented guitar player. rolleyes It's best that he not reopen this can of worms.

I'm biased though because I could forgive Jimmy Jam anything....Jesse, not so much, lol


Oh yeah, I crawled under the rug on that one lol
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Reply #16 posted 03/20/14 7:55am

lwr001

to quote madonna ####dis nigga lol

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Reply #17 posted 03/20/14 7:53pm

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I saw this foolishness on FB last night. Some cat went in on him too saying the first

time he claimed it was his investment and no shows but now it's the lyrics. Dude

said was he high the first time or what. lol I'm a Jesse fan but he is one

weird flip flopping dude.

Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #18 posted 03/20/14 10:11pm

trax

I wish they would just replace Jesse and keep going on. I LOVED the O7 album and I like Blondie and Skillet. To me thats The Time. I really dont want to hear the Time singing serious songs which I guess is what Jesse wants. He is just the guitar player. The songs are to fit Morris and I think they fit perfectly. Sounds like Jesse is just jealous and his ego cant handle taking the back seat to Morris. I like Jesse but he will never be Jam and Lewis and Morris IS the Time. Plug in Tori or someone else and eep the music going!!! We don't need no Jessewave!!!

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Reply #19 posted 03/20/14 11:46pm

kidmelody2012

jesse is jealous of jimmy jams success and uses the songs need meaning crap to try and make his point

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Reply #20 posted 03/21/14 3:13pm

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trax said:

I wish they would just replace Jesse and keep going on. I LOVED the O7 album and I like Blondie and Skillet. To me thats The Time. I really dont want to hear the Time singing serious songs which I guess is what Jesse wants. He is just the guitar player. The songs are to fit Morris and I think they fit perfectly. Sounds like Jesse is just jealous and his ego cant handle taking the back seat to Morris. I like Jesse but he will never be Jam and Lewis and Morris IS the Time. Plug in Tori or someone else and eep the music going!!! We don't need no Jessewave!!!

There it is. What killed me was when Jesse first bought this whole situation to light

a couple of years ago on FB there were all these Jesse fans kissing his ass. Oh I respect

you for taking a stand and the Time hasn't evolved. The Time aren't going to give you Curtis

Mayfield. The Time are who they are. They are not gonna try and save the world. I'm

a Jesse fan too and love his music but the the world nor the Time revolves around him.

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Reply #21 posted 03/22/14 6:09am

lwr001

And his solution was to go play for a Prince wannabe act "d'Angelo" . I personally dont think he added anything to D's band having seen them

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Reply #22 posted 03/22/14 5:19pm

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I believe Jesse. For the first time, I believe Jesse is copping to what some of his issues are with the band. With that said though I don't believe his issue is limited to what he said with his latest post. I don't think he has enough respect for what Terry brings to the table as a writer and visionary. And it's unacceptable that he sh*tted all over Terry's O7even deal. All those songs he didn't like are outstanding, so in a way his criticism doesn't make sense... unless you've ever met Jesse Johnson. And I have. And within the context of a short conversation I had with him I can tell you that's how Jesse is. He isn't an actor, things have to be real to him. He genuinely does get offended if he thinks that YOU think he is playing guitar on the classic Time records. What he said in that radio interview is real. I said, "Hey, man, I love your record" meaning Verbal Penetration and he started getting huffy because he thought I meant The Time. I told Jimmy Jam how much I liked his work and he smiled and said "THANK YOU". Big difference. Monte, Jellybean, Jerome just took the praise and kept me laughing. They understood that a compliment is a compliment, but for Jesse the particulars of things matter. So I believe that he does have issues with the way some of his music came out even if, in the end, the song is phenomenal. He is unwilling to accept it even if the final product is potentially something better. I've known people like that so I can't blame Jesse for just being a human being. It's sad that The Time is broken up over what seems like an unprofessional attitude toward minor issues (after all the songs he is bitching about are hot), but given his latest explanation I don't really want to hear anything more from him about it. I hope Jesse works it out eventually with the guys. Meanwhile Flyteyme has a hot new project coming soon, and Morris is on it, so I'm pumped for the new material because I know it's going to be hot.

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Reply #23 posted 03/23/14 4:32pm

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #24 posted 03/23/14 7:18pm

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During the Pandemonium era Jesse seemed to have issues with The Time and his personal life. I believe it was 1991 when ET reported that he attempted to kill
himself over a girlfriend.
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Reply #25 posted 03/23/14 7:30pm

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Everybody has issues in their life. Nobody is perfect!!!

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #26 posted 03/24/14 5:55pm

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Everybody has issues in their life. Nobody is perfect!!!

True. Jesse is only human. He's clearly moved on from The Time. I'm sure his new music will be great.

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Reply #27 posted 03/24/14 8:37pm

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Everybody has issues in their life. Nobody is perfect!!!

That may be true but not everybody attempts a suiciide on their life.

I'm glad he put that chapter behind him and he's good and the music

is still on point but let's not act like his shit don't stink too.

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Reply #28 posted 03/25/14 1:39am

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what bothers me so much with jesse is he get so offended and goes 2 great lengths 2 defend it when people call him a protege of prince saying he was in a band before prince well honey nobody ever never heard of ya be4 prince u wasnt on nobody label or none of that be4 prince he should be thankful 4 what he had instead of always bitching. truth b told every single member of the time is very talented they all write music and play various instruments so its not like any of em kim k. jesse doesnt say much 4 himself 2 me he left the time 2 go work 4 a prince wanna be danglo he didt go solo he left a band he was historiclly apart of 2 go 2 a minor artiost like dangelo. jesse is very talented yet seems to lack common sense

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Reply #29 posted 03/27/14 8:29pm

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I'm not buying Jesse's nonsense about the lyrics. If he were that offended by

Blondie why he didn't make it known until 2 decades later. I also think he's reaching

on Sick. Every Time/O7 fan knows the lyrics are just a figure of speech. It just seems

Jesse is just a bit of a social media attention whore. lol

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