OK. Thanks for clarifying "the same stuff".

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You're right about Mayte starting the whole thing by finding the mink in the sofa. I forgot about that.

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Yes, I caught the Minneapolis / Prince reference along with Tommy's eyebrows.

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She also found room for a mention of Charlie Murphy as well (in the limo). He supposedly called her or something to that effect. She wanted all the ladies (& viewing audience) to know. Btw, I thought she was hot for the guy who looks like Ricky Ricardo (sorry forgot his name from that other thread). Lord, who knows. Whatever. I know those shows are taped way ahead of time so who knows if anything ever came of the Charlie deal. I'm guessing not since Ricky is supposedly in the picture.

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Anyhow, thanks for clarifying.

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I have to post this. I ran across this online today. A must read.

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WARNING: Extremely shallow.

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http://okmagazine.com/mee...-your-man/

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Obviously, she's not in touch at all with what the "common folk" are doing with their lives.

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The old school dating rules were like .

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Yes Mayte. All of us women have to get waxed, our nails done and our lashes. This is EXTREMELY important to all us women. TOP PRIORITY! Like every woman views these things as a necessity or can even afford to have those things done on a regular basis. She has totally lost touch with reality (if she was ever in touch).

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Her idea about how to get more attention in a relationship. . . WOW. Shallow. How about if you want to attract a man or maintain his interest / attention just be loving, kind, real, truthful, funny & attentive? You know, fun to be around. OH NO. It's all about knocking him over head & demanding it by saying something like "give me more attention", redoing your hair or changing clothes. OY VEY!
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I don't have time to read this now, but will definately click on the link in the morning when I'm drinking my coffee. But I can already tell what it's more than likely going to say (eyeroll) ... yeah, she's out of touch for certain.

On tonight's epidsode she talked about not liking her wedding dress and basically being forced to wear the dress that Prince's people had made for her. She said that Versace offered to make her dress but "it didn't happen". She sort of talked about losing her identity in the relationship. She basically alluded to the fact (while in discussion with Jessica) that Prince was controlling. Big surprise. I think that's why our boy always ends up single after awhile. I hope he's calmed down a bit now.

She was actually tolerable this episode. I've really been hating her these last couple episodes.

Oh, poor girl didn't get a Versace dress.

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Well, if losing her identity (personality) means losing what we've seen on the show, then it was probably a good thing (at least as far as public perception).

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Controlling certainly isn't OK but makes me wonder if there was something there that Prince didn't want everyone else to see (like the way she's been acting on the show & her real self). In other words, he wanted to keep her reigned in and give the illusion (to the public) that she was something other than what she was. Guess we'll never know.

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And no, I'm not making excuses for controlling. Absolutely not. It's just what crossed my mind after seeing those 2 shows.

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Oh my, Tempest. I read the OK interview this morning. Wow. "Warning: Extremely Shallow" is right. Seems all this girl cares about is a man with money (if he makes less than me, he better be working overtime! Is basically what she said) ? and also, being thin. She said when she's comfortable in a relationship she gets fat. Ummm... I dont' think she's ever been fat. I wonder what her idea of fat is? an extra five pounds? She's way too skinny now anyway, imo. Oh well. I'm no longer a fan. I agree with whoever said that she came across way better in last night's interview. I agree. Much better look on her. I think getting with a rich, hot superstar at such a young age has most definately stunted her growth. She's way out of touch.

I was never a fan of hers so no loss here.

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Just for the record, Prince is not responsible for stunting Mayte's growth. In other words, hooking up with him. She is very, very immature and that's not his fault or problem. It's hers. I was more mature at 10 years of age than she is right now at 40 years of age. That's no lie and no thanks to my parents (or lack thereof). We are only responsible for ourselves and our own growth regardless of what goes on in our lives. We make our own choices in life. Other people are not responsible for that. It lands squarely in our own laps.

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Mayte was spoiled rotten, immature & a PITA LONG before Prince got on the scene and she still is. Trust me when I say that. I wasn't born yesterday or even the day before.

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^^ I agree with you, although my feelings are not so heated. I don't hate her, but I agree with your points about being responsible for yourself, not blaming Prince for everything (as is the norm on the org!).
All the ladies on the show were very young when they got their star husbands. Jessica said she was 19. All of them were younger than 25! Also, as Jessica said, every guy who has everything going on is going to be controlling (and they also want young hot women). I totally believe it. I know people who are not celebrities, but they are doing very well financially or career-wise, and the higher the income and/or prominence, the more the spouse plays an "assistant" and "look good" role. I do not pity them, because there are worse things than to have a husband with lots of money, but there ARE pressures that inhibit development of your own self.
Also, notice Shamicka and Drea's conversation about having to put up with crap from their husbands, giving up everything for them, supporting them, and feeling disrespected by them - it seems this is just part of the package of having a high-profile high-powered husband. You know Eddie Murphy cheated on Nicole too, while she was having 5 of his kids. So they all lost their identities and had controlling husbands, and they all were spoiled with material things.
Yet still, out of all of them, Mayte comes off as the most spoiled/bratty when she doesn't get her way. Yes, it's a show and staged to some extent, but I don't think they are purposefully editing and staging the show to make Mayte look the worst.
Perhaps it is because she is the only woman on the show who has not raised a child (until now) - being a mother makes you have perspective, become somewhat less selfish, more mature, develop more self-control. Or, maybe it's just her personality and no amount of mothering will change it much.
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I don't have heated feelings towards Mayte. In all honesty, I have no personal feelings toward her at all. Nada colada.

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Having a high powered husband (as you call it) is not a reason or excuse to be immature. Ridiculous. It's your own personal choice. No one can make or force that decision on you. I don't care how much money one has. Money (or being high profile) is not an excuse for immaturity either from the man or the woman in the relationship. In God's eyes, money doesn't excuse one for that. Period.

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Btw, I've never raised a child myself. So, motherhood has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with being (or becoming) a mature adult. I basically raised my own mother from when I was a child. Everyone around me for many, many years (all my life) has said that our relationship was more me taking care of her and raising her (being the mother) than the other way around. My mother was as selfish a human being as one could ever be and that's the God's honest truth. She always was. It was always about her all the time.

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Everyone's circumstances are different but our choice of becoming a well adjusted, mature adult lands squarely with numero uno. We need to get off the blame train and own our own lives.

I wanted to toss my 2 cents worth in here.. First off.. as far as destroying the Mink I am TOTALLY against wearing fur.. I thnk its horrible and cruel.. but lets face it.. the poor Mink is already dead and already gave its life.. Burning it is NOT gonna make a difference..

A more adult thing for Mayte to do would of been to just tell her that seeing it made her feel very sad and uncomfortable and to please not wear it.

Also... Every time I hear about Mayte going and getting her nails done and some fancy expensive place, or doing all other crap she does.. I think WHY isn't she putting that extra money into her Resuce?? She wants us as fans to give money, foster etc... but then she wastes money on crap.

I just think that is wrong... Maybe its just me.....

I use to think the WORLD of Mayte & Nelly... talked to Nelly all the time... but when I said a SIMPLE thing that Nelly didin't like she blew up and called me up and screamed at me and then HUNG UP so I couldn't explain.

When I wrote to her and said I was sorry over and over again.. she just kept calling me names and saying I was just trying to get info out of her about Prince.. believe me.. I could tell ALOT of inside shit about Prince that she told me... but never did out of respect to her and Mayte...

but she slammed the door on my friendship. She even ran to Mayte and told her I was mean to her and Mayte never bothered to ask me what Nelly said to ME to start it all.. she just BLOCKED me from all her internet sites. (REAL mature)

THEN after Nelly told me she didn't want to hear from me again.. OR be my friend etc... she sends me an email crying about her Dog and how sick it is..

WTF??? She doesnt' want to be my friend.. She doesn't want to accept that I was sorry. but wants me to listen to her moan about he dog.. OK.............

I don't think so

ANY WAY.. I just got wayyy off topic.. but I guess the Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.. LOL

Tempest said:

Yes, my previous post is in complete agreement with you. I'm saying that all the women had controlling husbands at a very young age, so that's no excuse for her behavior.
I only tossed out the motherhood possibility to sort of give her the benefit of the doubt - but yeah, I think it's just her personality.

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WTF? If she wants to be friends again and have you listen to her about her dog, she needs to apologize first. I don't know her, but I have a feeling it won't happen.
Remember what Shamicka said on the last show - do me wrong once, shame on you, do it twice, shame on me. Don't let people treat you badly.
As for people wanting to get info about Prince out of her - PUH-lease! She obviously loves having a connection to Prince (remember the episode when the girls tried on his clothes, Nelly all excited and smiling in the background). But he's completely washed his hands of them 16 years ago; they know as much about him in the 21st century as we do. As for old stories from the '90s, their perspective is completely skewed. It cannot be objective at all, and I don't want to hear that.

Orionforever. . .

Don't give Smelly Nelly an inch cuz she'll take a mile. Enough already and good riddance to bad rubbish. Flush.

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Mayte's attitudes remind me of prince. She learned from prince, When she asks for a room, it's so princely.
I easily think she kept that arrogance and attitude from the purple Time.
Anyway, i like her. She défends her opinions and beliefs. She dare to open her mouth to express herself... Which is good at the end.!

You call it expressing herself, I call it bullying,there are much better techniques for getting your point across.

But yes, now that you mention it, she probably does take her cues from how she saw P do it.

I would be rather annoyed too at not getting a wedding dress I loved.
Did she even get the chance to go back to MPLS to get her clothes and stuff, or was did someone else decide what should be sent to her I wonder?

Took her cues from P? What, she didn't & still doesn't have a mind of her own? Scruples of her own? Is she still taking her cues from Prince a thousand years later and long after the demise of their relationship? Please.

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Regarding the wedding dress, if she was so bothered by it, why did she marry him? Was she coerced into the marriage? Hogtied? Forced to walk down the aisle?

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She was and is an adult and should be capable of making decisions on her own. If she's not, then she's really got issues at 40 years of age. Is she some kind of mindless simpleton that she had / has to get her cues from Prince in order to think & function? If that's the case, then it's truly pathetic.

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Sorry, I'm not buying the lame excuses and blame.

The more I hear about Mayte and Prince, the more I think of this segment of Coming to America:

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http://www.youtube.com/wa...H-i4YertxA

If it's true that Mayte had to take her cues from Prince because she was incapable of thinking on her own, this zombie segment from The Mummy comes to mind as well. It even has an Egyptian flair! ! !

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http://www.youtube.com/wa...AiiJYeUwfM

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Im*Ho*Tep Im*Ho*Tep Im*Ho*Tep

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Tempest said:

I agree. ^^
Besides, it's one thing to act high and mighty when you're a big rich star (still not a good look, but understandable), but she's acting entitled when she's pretty much a nobody - or at the most just on the same par with the other ladies.
Another thing, if Mayte's taking cues from anybody, it ain't her ex-husband from ages ago to whom she was married a couple of years - it's her MOTHER! She doesn't still live with prince, but she still lives with her mom, and she was raised by her mom. And she probably took cues from mom in even entering into the relationship with him - the mom was the fan, not Mayte at the time.
What independent, single woman of 40 lives with mom? It's not like mom is ill and cannot live alone. I know what it's like to have a busy-body co-dependent mother-in-law, so I'm guessing the mom probably was a factor in the marriage breaking up. And she's probably also a factor in Mayte's professed dating troubles - what dude wants to date a woman whose mother and 15 pets come with the package from the get-go?
But ultimately, whether her cues from prince or her mother or from Jessica (regarding the mink), either way "the woman has shit for brains" (to quote Genesia's post above). She's old enough to take responsibility for herself, for her own thoughts and actions. If she behaved spoiled and childish about sharing a room as a guest in a gorgeous condo (and she did!), then it's on her and nobody else.

I agree 100% and then some.

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I have thought the same regarding her relationship with her mother but haven't wanted to go there. I'm glad that you did so I could openly agree with you regarding the same. Regarding dating, I have actually thought the exact same thing about the 15 pets & Mom. You're right, no dude wants to be met with that out of the gate (you read my mind). However, more importantly, her personality is such that it's ulitimately more of a turn off for guys than even Mom, the pets and the Prince china (that I heard used to be in the dining room). Just sayin'.

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She comes across very needy (attention hungry), entitled, spoiled, moody, unpleasant, insincere and phony. She gets all up in arms feeling "disrespected" by the ladies on vacation but doesn't even remotely take a look in the mirror to see how disrespectful she acted towards them. It was all about her. The ladies were not trying to be disrespectful to her at all. Mayte acted like a spoiled, arrogant child.

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She's not the kind of person I could ever hang out with or befriend. I couldn't take her for 5 minutes.

I see Mayte caught up in the past with a lot of hurt and pain. I don't think she's grown into a mature woman, even at 40, because the pain of her youth has kept her in that stage of life.

Until she gets over the memory of her dying baby and the shocking, surprise end to her marriage, I don't see her being or acting her age.

FanOfMusic said:

I see Mayte caught up in the past with a lot of hurt and pain. I don't think she's grown into a mature woman, even at 40, because the pain of her youth has kept her in that stage of life.

Until she gets over the memory of her dying baby and the shocking, surprise end to her marriage, I don't see her being or acting her age.

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So what about all the people in the world that have had extremely painful childhoods (and lives), experienced great losses, divorces and tribulation, YET act like grown, mature adults? Can we all use past experiences & pain as an excuse to be narcissistic and immature? I think not.

I don't honestly understand where here sense of entitlement comes from anyway. She may be on the same level as the rest of the girls but Nicole Murphy most definately is living larger than her and has more "powerful industry" friends. I wonder if this attitude comes from feeling inferior? It doesn't seem that she walked away with much from P and if she did, she didn't seem to do well with whatver $ she left with. I mean, her house is a'ight , but she isn't living in the lap luxury. Unlike Nicole Murphy who MUST always have a bowling alley in her house but still never complains about her lodgings when they go anywhere. And I'm sure Andrea is loaded. The other girls have expressed worry for Mayte financially when she adopted the little girl, Jessica going so far as to ask her if she has considered how expensive school lunches are! Ouch! that had to sting. Here she was, married to Prince, and these girls are worried that she can't afford to feed Gia? I almost feel that that whole acting out thing about the room was a passive way for her bratty self to say, "See? I'm better than all y'all!"

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Genesia said:

As if that was going to bring the mink back to life.

The woman has shit for brains.

Girl, I just couldn't with those two broads for this episode. All that whining about being disrepected while setting other people's personal belongs on fire???

First of all, let's face it. Mayte should be a grown woman for herself. If she needs to take cues from anyone else in order to know how to think & act (Prince, Mom, etc.) than that's truly pathetic and there's no excuse for it. The spoiled brat, feeling entitled, mouthy, bossy, arrogant etc. and all that jazz comes straight for her own person (heart). Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh. (Luke 6:45). In other words, what comes out of her mouth is what's in her heart. She has no one to blame but herself for her spoiled, entitled attitude. It's hers and hers alone.

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Also, let's face it, you don't have to be "somebody" (in a worldy sense) to have an entitled attitude. I've known people that don't have a pot to piss in and feel seriously entitled. It's an attitude of self importance, self-centeredness, a grandiose opinion of one's self, narcissistic, selfish, prideful, arrogant, etc. You don't have to have money, fame, "high powered friends" etc. to have that. Plenty of folks (rich, poor and in between) feel entitled.

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It's obvious that she has a very strange / odd relationship with her mother. That being said, Mayte is TOTALLY responsible for the way she interacts with her mother and for the choices she does and doesn't make. That doesn't land on Nelly's back. Nelly obviously has her own issues and needs to deal with how she interacts with her daughter for herself. No question. Both of them are grown women. My guess is that her parents spoiled her rotten as a child and that's where some of the entitlement comes from. However, it's still her decision to act like a spoiled rotten child. Just because a person is spoiled growing up, doesn't mean they have to act like a spoiled brat. That's her choice to be whatever it is she wants to be.

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Thank goodness I didn't take cues from my mother. OY VEY! I'm the complete opposite of my mother and my father (serious dysfunction). Nothing like either of them. WHY? Personal choices and the grace of God. I try to get my guidance from God, not from humans. So, just because children have parents that don't set a good example, doesn't mean those same children have to turn around and do the same as their parents did or act like them. It's one's choice to be whatever it is one wants to be.

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Regarding "powerful people" and people in a "powerful industry". I have to laugh at that when I hear it because it's such a worldly, skewed perception of reality. OK, that's true in a worldy sense because that's what the world (& worldly people) crave: attention, limelight, money, "power", fame, "high powered" friends, etc. but in reality, it's an illusion, deception & temporary. From a Biblical perspective, power is something quite the opposite. The most powerful person who ever walked the planet was Yeshua (Jesus) and all he had was the robe on his back, his sandals, a few bucks in the bag for food etc., a few friends, but he also had the POWER OF GOD ON HIGH, God's blessing and approval. This is TRUE POWER and everything he needed. He was the most humble, powerful & famous man that ever walked the earth. What the world calls "power" is NOTHING in comparison to what he had. Isn't it interesting that the most powerful, influential and famous person that ever walked the earth was also the most humble, loving, kind, fearless, righteous and not wealthy? He was extremely wealthy in spirit but not monetarily.

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FYI, there's absolutely nothing wrong (or sinful) about being blessed with worldly riches, however, along with that comes great responsibility. King David & Solomon were very wealthy men. God said that David was a man after his own heart. What a tremendous compliment to David! Solomon was gifted with great godly wisdom and because he asked for godly wisdom over riches, he was blessed abundantly with both. God was pleased with his desire for wisdom.

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Also, there's nothing inherently godly about being poor. It's all about the heart and whom one serves. If one wants to serve God, than God must come first. The Bible says that you cannot serve both God and mammon. One's heart will be with one or the other. If a rich person has God as number one in their life and the humility to go along with it, that person will be blessed by the Lord.

Well, I don't know what you're laughing at because I, myself could give two shits about "Important People". What I'm saying is, MAYTE CARES. Oh yes she does. Girl is SHALLOW. And what I was saying is her whole, "I'm better than all y'all and need my own room" business, with girls who (in her skewered world) have it Waaayyyyyy better than she does, is ridiculous and makes her look silly considering she doesn't have all the hollywood bullshit that the other girls have. And let's be honest, all these girls talk about is shopping, their credit cards, being cut off from their credit cards, having to date a guy who'll give them a credit card, blah blah blah, a bunch of shallow shit. But Tempest, get off your high horse, you are SO self- righteous. You always think everyone is not as "enlightened" as you. Fuck out of here. I wasn't talking about me. I was saying, from Mayte's shallow perspective- this is what it is.Calm Down.

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I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Enlightened? Self righteous? High horse? I was merely sharing from my heart and nothing more. I'm weary of the false accusations around here.

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What I said was nothing even remotely about you. Why in the world would you think that?

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I have no idea why you're coming at me like this.

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I wish you could look into my heart. Maybe one day you'll be able to see inside my heart. Then again, maybe that will never happen.

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Take care of you & yes, I'll get out of here.

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I thnk its sad that So many ppl on her keep saying "Well poor mayte was shoved into the relationship with Prince when she was young" Yes.. she was... BUT she MARRIED him as an adult. she loved the fame, the dancing, the attention.. Even if her Mom wanted her to marry him.. she could of said NO if she didn't want too.

That would be just like ME.. at age 46.. blaming my Mom for ME being fat. "Well when I was a kid mom always baked great cookies and encouraged 2nds" well sure.. but once I got older and left the house.. My weight was in MY control

Something else that baffles me is...... WHY doesn't Nelly wanna live with her husband (Mayte's Dad) He lives in Pueorto Rico (spelled wrong I think) He lives with HIS Mom.. WHY would a women not want to be with her Spouse? I can't even imagine not living with my husband..

But I KNOW WHY Mayte wants Nelly there.. its for taking care of all the pets, and watching Gia.. while is out having fun.. and the pets were mostly brought into the house by Mayte.. NOT Nelly....... But Nelly is the one who cares for most of them.

I have heard alot of stories (From Nelly) about the controlling and the issue's with Prince.. but COME ON.. she was with him for MANY years befoe they got married.. I highly doubt he just "changed"...

I think she just got kinda "tired" of it after a while.............

And I agree with some one who said WHO would want the Mother in Law sticking her nose in the couples buiness all the time... I'd KILL My Mom in Law if she lived any where NEAR us. LOL she is crazy.. and Nelly is very demanding and hateful and holds a TON of grudges.

Its sad.. but Mayte is NOT the first women to lose a child.. or get divorced..

I always thought the WORLD of Nelly & Mayte.. but the way they have turned Mayte on this years show.. and the way her and her mom "turned" on me.. I learned my lesson...

Tempest- I sent you an orgnote but I don't know if you read it. I'm sorry. I took your statement wrong and thought you were saying that I , personally cared about "influental Hollywood people". I'm sorry for jumping all over you. you are a very nice person and I've enjoyed bantering back and forth with you. hope you forgive me for getting offended over nothing.

Thank you for the apology. I appreciate it.

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Next time if you have a question regarding one of my posts, please feel free to ask questions of me either privately or on the forum and in a nice way. OK? It's far more constructive than taking offense, calling me names & giving me 50 lashes for no reason.

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My comments were not in any way, shape or form aimed at you or made with you in mind. I was speaking & musing in general terms sharing what was on my heart regarding how humorous it is when people in this world are referred to as "high powered" and "influential." It makes me giggle when I hear people say that or use those terms even though I totally understand what they mean by it. I also explained why it strikes me as funny when I hear it by comparing it to what (IMO) really matters in life & in eternity from a Biblical perspective & in conjunction with Yeshua. That's all.

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It's all good.

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