Nah, she didnt complain about not getting paid...but she made sure to point out that NO ONE made any money until they left Prince's camp.

And while I love the Revolution and would do damned near anything to see him seriously work with Wendy, Lisa and Susannah again...they were NOT the best band Prince ever had. Live in concert the Lovesexy band murders them, and the original NPG lineup destroys them.

I love these little interviews, but this one leaves a lot to be desired. Im sure neither she nor Prince want to put all their business in the streets, but why cant we know what went down that caused Susannah to receive her "blessing in disguise" and not be cast as Mary Sharon in UTCM? If you're gonna go there honey, give us something (but that's just me being nosy, I guess).

I enjoyed the description of the Dream Factory cover art.

We finally get a sense of what it might have looked like.

I wonder if Susannah could duplicate it someone now in picture...

StonedImmaculate said:

And while I love the Revolution and would do damned near anything to see him seriously work with Wendy, Lisa and Susannah again...they were NOT the best band Prince ever had. Live in concert the Lovesexy band murders them, and the original NPG lineup destroys them.

I'm glad someone else said it!

It's like some weird act of sacrilege to say that on here.

I understand the nostalgia involved, and that people have different tastes, but I never understood the intense loyalty to those three women.

StonedImmaculate said:

Nah, she didnt complain about not getting paid...but she made sure to point out that NO ONE made any money until they left Prince's camp.

And while I love the Revolution and would do damned near anything to see him seriously work with Wendy, Lisa and Susannah again...they were NOT the best band Prince ever had. Live in concert the Lovesexy band murders them, and the original NPG lineup destroys them.

I love these little interviews, but this one leaves a lot to be desired. Im sure neither she nor Prince want to put all their business in the streets, but why cant we know what went down that caused Susannah to receive her "blessing in disguise" and not be cast as Mary Sharon in UTCM? If you're gonna go there honey, give us something (but that's just me being nosy, I guess).

The Revolution to me is his 'foundation' band. The band that was with him before the fame was there.

This is the band the Prince surrounded himself with that created the most extensive period of creativity and music that spilled over so that protege acts had to be made. 1982-1986 can't be touched by any other.

The SOTT in a sense is a band in connection to those previous years. 1/2 the members were ex-Revolution, the other half 1/2 Sheila E band mates. But I don't know if he had the song writing chemistry that he had from the previous years. Because SOTT over all can't be contributed to them but to the Revolution, even most GB Prince and the Time music was made during the 1984-1986 years. We never really got a chance to experience the SOTT band though(Black album was shelved) and the band was no more after Lovesexy.

By the time the NPG came onto the scene, I wonder is it real to compare the bands. Because we would have to hear the Revolution as a unit growing into the 1990's. But that's here no there.

I thought the story was told about Susannah not being used for UTCM.

I don't remember it being saucy or anything, just that the 'director' producer etc didn't think she had enough training or skill to play the part. I'll see if I can locate something for you...

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Now that I'm a woman
I'm always dreaming of romance
I'm always dreaming about the perfect man
Who'd take me in his arms and understand, understand me

My name is Miss Understood

I'm just a girl who wants true love like anyone would
I'm Miss Understood
Isn't there a man who understands me?

He picked me up at midnight

When all the town was fast asleep
We danced 4 the man in the moon above
Understanding's cheap when U fall in love, fall in love

Just call me Miss Understood

I'm just a girl who wants true love like anyone would
I'm Miss Understood

Isn't there a man who understands me?

I want a lover that can satisfy the hunger of my lonely heart
Gotta have a lover with a PhD in undercover art

Now that I'm a woman
I'm always looking 4 romance (Romance)
I'm always looking 4 the perfect man
Who'd take me in his arms and understand, understand me

Just call me Miss Understood

chocolate1 said:

StonedImmaculate said:

And while I love the Revolution and would do damned near anything to see him seriously work with Wendy, Lisa and Susannah again...they were NOT the best band Prince ever had. Live in concert the Lovesexy band murders them, and the original NPG lineup destroys them.

I'm glad someone else said it!

It's like some weird act of sacrilege to say that on here.

I understand the nostalgia involved, and that people have different tastes, but I never understood the intense loyalty to those three women.

I have to agree with you Chocolate1, especially when he had band members who were not part of the Revolution band prior to and post-Revolution band members, who was also part of Prince's music history. I think it would be unfair to say the Revolution band members were his best band. I would say some of those former members of the Purple Rain era, are the most memorable or more well known in their association with him, moreso than being his best band, is because of the popularity of the Purple Rain movie, and their roles in it, as well as the album/tour for the movie. Same for some former band members/associates who were on the LoveSexy Tour and Sign of the Times, Graffiti Bridge, UTCM movies.

Purple Rain was a platform for Prince to display his musician/artist/performance skills, to a larger and more diversified audience, and the band members who were a part of that movie, benefit from the fame of the movie, name-wise, today because the movie helped to introduce them as part of his band at the time, as well as other members/associates of the Prince music camp/music family, of that era.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

StonedImmaculate said:

Nah, she didnt complain about not getting paid...but she made sure to point out that NO ONE made any money until they left Prince's camp.

And while I love the Revolution and would do damned near anything to see him seriously work with Wendy, Lisa and Susannah again...they were NOT the best band Prince ever had. Live in concert the Lovesexy band murders them, and the original NPG lineup destroys them.

I love these little interviews, but this one leaves a lot to be desired. Im sure neither she nor Prince want to put all their business in the streets, but why cant we know what went down that caused Susannah to receive her "blessing in disguise" and not be cast as Mary Sharon in UTCM? If you're gonna go there honey, give us something (but that's just me being nosy, I guess).

The Revolution to me is his 'foundation' band. The band that was with him before the fame was there.

This is the band the Prince surrounded himself with that created the most extensive period of creativity and music that spilled over so that protege acts had to be made. 1982-1986 can't be touched by any other.

The SOTT in a sense is a band in connection to those previous years. 1/2 the members were ex-Revolution, the other half 1/2 Sheila E band mates. But I don't know if he had the song writing chemistry that he had from the previous years. Because SOTT over all can't be contributed to them but to the Revolution, even most GB Prince and the Time music was made during the 1984-1986 years. We never really got a chance to experience the SOTT band though(Black album was shelved) and the band was no more after Lovesexy.

By the time the NPG came onto the scene, I wonder is it real to compare the bands. Because we would have to hear the Revolution as a unit growing into the 1990's. But that's here no there.

I thought the story was told about Susannah not being used for UTCM.

I don't remember it being saucy or anything, just that the 'director' producer etc didn't think she had enough training or skill to play the part. I'll see if I can locate something for you...

[Edited 4/21/13 5:46am]

Absolutely the Revolution was his foundation and 1982-1986 (I'd say 1980-1988) were an untouchable period for Prince, but as a live unit they left a little to be desired (I will say that there were some performances on the 1999 tour that I would put up against anything Prince ever did live). They had some amazing moments but simply dont stack up to the bands Prince put together afterwards. That being said, I'm one of those that believes Prince was never the same creatively after breaking them up, but that had more to do with his connection with Wendy, Lisa and Susannah. His studio output suffered after their departure...his live shows improved tenfold.

StonedImmaculate said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

The Revolution to me is his 'foundation' band. The band that was with him before the fame was there.

This is the band the Prince surrounded himself with that created the most extensive period of creativity and music that spilled over so that protege acts had to be made. 1982-1986 can't be touched by any other.

The SOTT in a sense is a band in connection to those previous years. 1/2 the members were ex-Revolution, the other half 1/2 Sheila E band mates. But I don't know if he had the song writing chemistry that he had from the previous years. Because SOTT over all can't be contributed to them but to the Revolution, even most GB Prince and the Time music was made during the 1984-1986 years. We never really got a chance to experience the SOTT band though(Black album was shelved) and the band was no more after Lovesexy.

By the time the NPG came onto the scene, I wonder is it real to compare the bands. Because we would have to hear the Revolution as a unit growing into the 1990's. But that's here no there.

I thought the story was told about Susannah not being used for UTCM.

I don't remember it being saucy or anything, just that the 'director' producer etc didn't think she had enough training or skill to play the part. I'll see if I can locate something for you...

[Edited 4/21/13 5:46am]

Absolutely the Revolution was his foundation and 1982-1986 (I'd say 1980-1988) were an untouchable period for Prince, but as a live unit they left a little to be desired (I will say that there were some performances on the 1999 tour that I would put up against anything Prince ever did live). They had some amazing moments but simply dont stack up to the bands Prince put together afterwards. That being said, I'm one of those that believes Prince was never the same creatively after breaking them up, but that had more to do with his connection with Wendy, Lisa and Susannah. His studio output suffered after their departure...his live shows improved tenfold.

true, but people get better with time, and after hearing the Revolution last year for Bobby Z foundation show, the were perfect, and that's good for a band that hasn't performed together as a whole since 1986 with only 2 rehearsals.

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I'm always of the mind Prince seems to shine better when everything isn't perfect. Maybe that's what he's trying to do with the 3rd Eye girl band in getting back to some strippedness with no reliability on other technical things to assist.

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I'm also one who wishes he would have someone combined the Revolution & Sheila E bands more often instead of the breakup. He would have gotten more musicians to play with the creative synergy would have continued, we would have still had the 'Sheila E protege' happening(that 3rd album is one I wish we had a era for, love that 3rd album)

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I love the part of the interview of her talking about drawing with Prince, those are some pieces I would love to see. Can you imagine Prince releasing a book of artwork, drawing notes etc

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OF4S somehow I can't help wondering if you have a crush on Susannah. Anyway, you seem very caught up in a nostalgic sense, of that particular era of Prince when Wendy, Lisa, Susannah and others of that time period were together as band members/associates, instead of the 'Here and Now' Prince. Just my observation from reading some of your Prince-related posts, is all. I think it's good that over time he moved on, tried different forms of music and has been inspired from other artists who performed/perform in his band post-Revolution era.

I was wondering, how do you feel about his music since post-Revolution members and are there any other band members post-Revolution who have performed in Prince's band whose talent that you admire as much as W&L and Susannah?

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2elijah said:

OF4S somehow I can't help wondering if you have a crush on Susannah. Anyway, you seem very caught up in a nostalgic sense, of that particular era of Prince when Wendy, Lisa, Susannah and others of that time period were together as band members/associates, instead of the 'Here and Now' Prince. Just my observation from reading some of your Prince-related posts, is all. I think it's good that over time he moved on, tried different forms of music and has been inspired from other artists who performed/perform in his band post-Revolution era.

lol no I don't,

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It's probably my favorite period 1976-1989), actually it's almost as much from a 'historic' interest as well.

One of my favorite periods of interest with Prince is 1976-77 and the 1st album period, because alot of this period there was so much happening and not a lot 'recorded' or so readily accessed.

For example: this interview -so much was revealed in it from that period, information that many fans always had questions of, stuff that went along with the videos, the songs, the tours. I mean just the information on the Dream Factory cover art. Prince's drawings, Also I believe the OP of this thread did one on Jill Jones, and there was so much talked about of that 1985-1987 period that a lot of us might have had questions on, but nothing was ever recorded or talked about. You never know, I might end up doing my own type of Prince fandom book(not into the gossip stuff really) but revolving around the creative process -everything from the fashion, to inspiration, background stories etc

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Also what I call 'transition' or intermediate periods are very interesting too me, like what was happening in 1989 (after Lovesexy) what happened to Sheila Boni Cat, the transition in Batman - GB. A lot of people didn't realize that Prince had an all girl band ready that had Robin Powers as lead, and they wore outfits similar to Cat during Lovesexy. A lot of Prince history (not readily accessable)

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No, If you ever read my posts on Prince & Andy as well as the 3rd Eye Girl group (even Bria Valente) I've been very supportive of what it seems Prince was trying to do, trying to extended his music reach with what looked like a 'protege'

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I'm one of those that love 20Ten the album, it's just that Prince hasn't done much with that album or even LotusFlower. So I can only be so much into the here & now with Prince according to what he does.

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Excited about a lot of the music that I've heard so far but also not in a rush for him to release before he has some kind of vision or cohesiveness. I've said give me an album of 6 strong cohesive songs with a direction, vs an album of 20 songs that are all over the place and hit's n misses.

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It's actually my appreciation for what I've seen him do back then (as far as his albums had an ERA affect) I don't what another album released that he still tours with not much attention to the album releases but to the hits of 1978-1992

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I'm not looking for Prince to try to duplicate that period. He can't. But there are little things that I still have some kind of expectation on him. 1.) Give out an cohesive album 2.) Focus on those sons and other previous released songs from your catalogue that fit with those songs

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I wish he would have attended the tribute to him, or hope somehow he had a chance to hear how people celebrated and interpeted his music. and I do hope that he would do some stuff with the Time, FDelux & Sheila E again.

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I like reading about the creation of the Family group, some nice new information

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It's cool getting a better picture of what that group was about and who was in it.

That Mico was the live guitarist and Wally & Gregory were Jeromes side dancers

I forget, but there was someone else involved too

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by film noir. It was inspired by mid-to- late 1940s noir films with smoking jackets, fast dialogue and black-and-white glamour.

2elijah said:

OF4S somehow I can't help wondering if you have a crush on Susannah. Anyway, you seem very caught up in a nostalgic sense, of that particular era of Prince when Wendy, Lisa, Susannah and others of that time period were together as band members/associates, instead of the 'Here and Now' Prince. Just my observation from reading some of your Prince-related posts, is all. I think it's good that over time he moved on, tried different forms of music and has been inspired from other artists who performed/perform in his band post-Revolution era.

I was wondering, how do you feel about his music since post-Revolution members and are there any other band members post-Revolution who have performed in Prince's band whose talent that you admire as much as W&L and Susannah?

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Its funny I became a huge fan during the Purple Rain era but I rarely visit that time when I listen to music. I've been more into the 2000 music and just recently started absorbing his 90's stuff.

wonder505 said:

2elijah said:

OF4S somehow I can't help wondering if you have a crush on Susannah. Anyway, you seem very caught up in a nostalgic sense, of that particular era of Prince when Wendy, Lisa, Susannah and others of that time period were together as band members/associates, instead of the 'Here and Now' Prince. Just my observation from reading some of your Prince-related posts, is all. I think it's good that over time he moved on, tried different forms of music and has been inspired from other artists who performed/perform in his band post-Revolution era.

I was wondering, how do you feel about his music since post-Revolution members and are there any other band members post-Revolution who have performed in Prince's band whose talent that you admire as much as W&L and Susannah?

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Its funny I became a huge fan during the Purple Rain era but I rarely visit that time when I listen to music. I've been more into the 2000 music and just recently started absorbing his 90's stuff.

Hi there! Good to hear from you. I actually agree with you. I was a major fan of the Purple Rain era, and enjoyed it for what it was, but pretty much left it in the era it was known for. Of course, like many fans, I was surprised to hear his Revolution band had disbanded, and so I just went with the flow of what Prince had in store next for fans. I believe I took a 16 year hiatus from his music, but returned as a fan in 2004 during the musicology tour, and have been enjoying much of that music from the 2000s since then.

I can't see the Purple Rain era or image making a comeback in 2000, because that music belonged in the era it was introduced. Much has changed in the music industry today, so I couldn't see Prince and the former Revolution members wearing the Purple Rain outfits today, and having that same sound. Sure those songs of that era are classics that will always be embraced and appreciated, and bring back memorable moments for many, but time changes things, and time changes music, and music tastes, so it is good that Prince was smart enough to move on and not get stuck in a time warp of some sort.

Imagine what we would have missed if he continued to pigeon-hole himself in that era, and kept creating other bands to portray extensions of the various forms of his music and images of himself, like he did in the 80s. Now it seems in the 2000s, he presents all the extensions of himself/and his music on his own, without having to create, ‘characters’ so-to-speak to present that for him.

Seems since the 2000s, he has been working with several new artists/musicians who join him on stage, and he promotes and shines the light on their talent instead, while they are either part of his band for the moment or if he is feeling specific forms of music, he will gather musicians experienced in the type of music vibe he wants to work with or present to his fans, for future shows/concerts/albums. So in my opinion, it’s nice to see that he doesn’t have to create other images or personas of himself through other people, to present the various forms of his music talent, like he did in the past.

OldFriends4Sale said:

2elijah said:

OF4S somehow I can't help wondering if you have a crush on Susannah. Anyway, you seem very caught up in a nostalgic sense, of that particular era of Prince when Wendy, Lisa, Susannah and others of that time period were together as band members/associates, instead of the 'Here and Now' Prince. Just my observation from reading some of your Prince-related posts, is all. I think it's good that over time he moved on, tried different forms of music and has been inspired from other artists who performed/perform in his band post-Revolution era.

lol no I don't,

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It's probably my favorite period 1976-1989), actually it's almost as much from a 'historic' interest as well.

One of my favorite periods of interest with Prince is 1976-77 and the 1st album period, because alot of this period there was so much happening and not a lot 'recorded' or so readily accessed.

For example: this interview -so much was revealed in it from that period, information that many fans always had questions of, stuff that went along with the videos, the songs, the tours. I mean just the information on the Dream Factory cover art. Prince's drawings, Also I believe the OP of this thread did one on Jill Jones, and there was so much talked about of that 1985-1987 period that a lot of us might have had questions on, but nothing was ever recorded or talked about. You never know, I might end up doing my own type of Prince fandom book(not into the gossip stuff really) but revolving around the creative process -everything from the fashion, to inspiration, background stories etc

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Also what I call 'transition' or intermediate periods are very interesting too me, like what was happening in 1989 (after Lovesexy) what happened to Sheila Boni Cat, the transition in Batman - GB. A lot of people didn't realize that Prince had an all girl band ready that had Robin Powers as lead, and they wore outfits similar to Cat during Lovesexy. A lot of Prince history (not readily accessable)

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No, If you ever read my posts on Prince & Andy as well as the 3rd Eye Girl group (even Bria Valente) I've been very supportive of what it seems Prince was trying to do, trying to extended his music reach with what looked like a 'protege'

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I'm one of those that love 20Ten the album, it's just that Prince hasn't done much with that album or even LotusFlower. So I can only be so much into the here & now with Prince according to what he does.

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Excited about a lot of the music that I've heard so far but also not in a rush for him to release before he has some kind of vision or cohesiveness. I've said give me an album of 6 strong cohesive songs with a direction, vs an album of 20 songs that are all over the place and hit's n misses.

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It's actually my appreciation for what I've seen him do back then (as far as his albums had an ERA affect) I don't what another album released that he still tours with not much attention to the album releases but to the hits of 1978-1992

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I'm not looking for Prince to try to duplicate that period. He can't. But there are little things that I still have some kind of expectation on him. 1.) Give out an cohesive album 2.) Focus on those sons and other previous released songs from your catalogue that fit with those songs

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I wish he would have attended the tribute to him, or hope somehow he had a chance to hear how people celebrated and interpeted his music. and I do hope that he would do some stuff with the Time, FDelux & Sheila E again.

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Ok, was just teasing about Susannah...

I think a lot of fans, especially older fans, are always hoping he gets together with the former Revolution members that 'one more time', I think because some fans want him to bring back that nostalgic feeling of that time period, kind of like when listening to 70s/80s music. The variation of music during that time period, brings back memories of one’s youth, so I think that feeling is similar, to what many fans who were around when the Revolution members were with Prince, miss about it, but at the same time, I think that’s all it would bring if he was to perform with all the Revolution members again--- is a temporary feeling of nostalgia, and so after that 'one more time', then what?

I think what he has and is currently presenting from the 2000s, which is in the 'Here and Now', is the image most of his younger and new fans will have of him, and relate to more, moreso than from the Revolution time period, especially since he's been through various band members post-Revolution to present day.


Honestly, I hold no 'expectations' of Prince's music, because I've always seen him as 'unpredictable' with his music, which to me makes him a more interesting musician/artist. I'm not looking for any 'hits' or 'number ones' from his music, but instead music that sounds/feels good; and that’s pretty much what I’ve been embracing from his music, not music that is repetitive of what they call music on the radio these days. Not saying I like everything he has released in the 2000s, but I have my favorites, and for the most part, I have enjoyed many of the live performances, since I returned as a fan in 2004, after an almost 16 year hiatus.

As far as Prince not attending the Carnegie Tribute, I'm sure many of us wished he attended, but that's now water under the bridge for me, in other words, no sense on dwelling on that, since I've moved on about it.

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2elijah said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

lol no I don't,

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It's probably my favorite period 1976-1989), actually it's almost as much from a 'historic' interest as well.

One of my favorite periods of interest with Prince is 1976-77 and the 1st album period, because alot of this period there was so much happening and not a lot 'recorded' or so readily accessed.

For example: this interview -so much was revealed in it from that period, information that many fans always had questions of, stuff that went along with the videos, the songs, the tours. I mean just the information on the Dream Factory cover art. Prince's drawings, Also I believe the OP of this thread did one on Jill Jones, and there was so much talked about of that 1985-1987 period that a lot of us might have had questions on, but nothing was ever recorded or talked about. You never know, I might end up doing my own type of Prince fandom book(not into the gossip stuff really) but revolving around the creative process -everything from the fashion, to inspiration, background stories etc

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Also what I call 'transition' or intermediate periods are very interesting too me, like what was happening in 1989 (after Lovesexy) what happened to Sheila Boni Cat, the transition in Batman - GB. A lot of people didn't realize that Prince had an all girl band ready that had Robin Powers as lead, and they wore outfits similar to Cat during Lovesexy. A lot of Prince history (not readily accessable)

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No, If you ever read my posts on Prince & Andy as well as the 3rd Eye Girl group (even Bria Valente) I've been very supportive of what it seems Prince was trying to do, trying to extended his music reach with what looked like a 'protege'

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I'm one of those that love 20Ten the album, it's just that Prince hasn't done much with that album or even LotusFlower. So I can only be so much into the here & now with Prince according to what he does.

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Excited about a lot of the music that I've heard so far but also not in a rush for him to release before he has some kind of vision or cohesiveness. I've said give me an album of 6 strong cohesive songs with a direction, vs an album of 20 songs that are all over the place and hit's n misses.

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It's actually my appreciation for what I've seen him do back then (as far as his albums had an ERA affect) I don't what another album released that he still tours with not much attention to the album releases but to the hits of 1978-1992

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I'm not looking for Prince to try to duplicate that period. He can't. But there are little things that I still have some kind of expectation on him. 1.) Give out an cohesive album 2.) Focus on those sons and other previous released songs from your catalogue that fit with those songs

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I wish he would have attended the tribute to him, or hope somehow he had a chance to hear how people celebrated and interpeted his music. and I do hope that he would do some stuff with the Time, FDelux & Sheila E again.

[Edited 4/22/13 7:10am]

hrough various band members post-Revolution to present day.

I honestly hold no 'expectations' of Prince's music, because I've always seen him as 'unpredictable' with his music, which to me makes him a more interesting musician/artist. I'm not looking for any 'hits' or 'number ones' from his music, but instead music that sounds/feels good; music that is not repetitive of what they call music on the radio these days, and that’s pretty much what I’ve been embracing from his music. Not saying I like everything he has released in the 2000s, but I have my favorites, and for the most part, I have enjoyed many of the live performances, since I returned as a fan in 2004, after an almost 16 year hiatus.

As far as Prince not attending the Carnegie Tribute, I'm sure many of us wished he attended, but that's now water under the bridge for me, in other words, no sense on dwelling on that, since I've moved on about it.

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The only thing I expect from Prince is something cohesive (Rainbow Children) shows he can do it, and it sound like Prince not trying to keep up with anything 'popular' or hip

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I don't think he's done anything 'unpredictable in a while' I just care for a good solid album of music that is definatively 'Prince'

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I don't care if he attended the Tribute or not, I just hope he had a chance to hear it (whatever means)

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so when did you originally become fan?

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OldFriends4Sale said:

2elijah said:

hrough various band members post-Revolution to present day.

I honestly hold no 'expectations' of Prince's music, because I've always seen him as 'unpredictable' with his music, which to me makes him a more interesting musician/artist. I'm not looking for any 'hits' or 'number ones' from his music, but instead music that sounds/feels good; music that is not repetitive of what they call music on the radio these days, and that’s pretty much what I’ve been embracing from his music. Not saying I like everything he has released in the 2000s, but I have my favorites, and for the most part, I have enjoyed many of the live performances, since I returned as a fan in 2004, after an almost 16 year hiatus.

As far as Prince not attending the Carnegie Tribute, I'm sure many of us wished he attended, but that's now water under the bridge for me, in other words, no sense on dwelling on that, since I've moved on about it.

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The only thing I expect from Prince is something cohesive (Rainbow Children) shows he can do it, and it sound like Prince not trying to keep up with anything 'popular' or hip

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I don't think he's done anything 'unpredictable in a while' I just care for a good solid album of music that is definatively 'Prince'

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I don't care if he attended the Tribute or not, I just hope he had a chance to hear it (whatever means)

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so when did you originally become fan?

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Moreso in the early 80s when an ex of mine showed me one of Prince's album. I, like many others though, became more of a fan during the Purple Rain era. Then during the LoveSexy era. After that, my life became busier than it had been, so that's when the hiatus took place. Not on purpose of course, but I do believe I missed out on most of his 90s stuff. There's still a 'truckload' of his songs I hadn't heard until 2006, believe it or not. Never heard 'Empty Room', until I attended the show at the Empire Club in Vegas, and I asked someone what was that name of that song.

I saw two Lovesexy concerts when that tour happened in NYC. Absolutely loved it, moreso than the Purple Rain concerts.

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2elijah said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

The only thing I expect from Prince is something cohesive (Rainbow Children) shows he can do it, and it sound like Prince not trying to keep up with anything 'popular' or hip

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I don't think he's done anything 'unpredictable in a while' I just care for a good solid album of music that is definatively 'Prince'

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I don't care if he attended the Tribute or not, I just hope he had a chance to hear it (whatever means)

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so when did you originally become fan?

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Moreso in the early 80s when an ex of mine showed me one of Prince's album. I, like many others though, became more of a fan during the Purple Rain era. Then during the LoveSexy era. After that, my life became busier than it had been, so that's when the hiatus took place. Not on purpose of course, but I do believe I missed out on most of his 90s stuff. There's still a 'truckload' of his songs I hadn't heard until 2006, believe it or not. Never heard 'Empty Room', until I attended the show at the Empire Club in Vegas, and I asked someone what was that name of that song.

I saw two Lovesexy concerts when that tour happened in NYC. Absolutely loved it, moreso than the Purple Rain concerts.

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the tours I still am amazed by are the 1999, Parade & SOTT tours

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I tried going through each 1990's period album and looking at what he was doing, the music etc, it was definately a 'distracting' period with the WB battles picking up early on in the 1990's

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I watch him from afar then, Got a bit excited when I heard I Hate U, I felt that sounded like a return to foundational Prince, but I guess by the time the album came out Prince was over it.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

purple1968 said:

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JellyBean Johnson who is bitching in his interview which is linked on this board. Read it and come back and discuss.

This thread is about Susannah Melvoin

share the link and I will discuss in that appropriate thread

Hell Brownmark didn't get his full PR pay till years after he left the band.

So just because someone may have an issue about something doesn't make it nonesense

Again.

Susannah was not complaining about not getting paid in the 1980s

She went on to do work with a lot of other popular entertainers from Madonna - Eric Clapton

You asked this question. I answered it.

"oh please, who from the 1980s have you heard complaining about not getting paid?"

I remember reading that all of the Revolution got a million dollar bonus at the end of the tour. If they wrote songs and were not compenstated they have a beef but if they were just playing on the damm CD or not in some cases what compensation by 1980s pay would they have expected.

purple1968 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

This thread is about Susannah Melvoin

share the link and I will discuss in that appropriate thread

Hell Brownmark didn't get his full PR pay till years after he left the band.

So just because someone may have an issue about something doesn't make it nonesense

Again.

Susannah was not complaining about not getting paid in the 1980s

She went on to do work with a lot of other popular entertainers from Madonna - Eric Clapton

You asked this question. I answered it.

"oh please, who from the 1980s have you heard complaining about not getting paid?"

I remember reading that all of the Revolution got a million dollar bonus at the end of the tour. If they wrote songs and were not compenstated they have a beef but if they were just playing on the damm CD or not in some cases what compensation by 1980s pay would they have expected.

Susannah was not bitching about about getting paid

and Jellybean probably has some legit issues

OldFriends4Sale said:

2elijah said:

Moreso in the early 80s when an ex of mine showed me one of Prince's album. I, like many others though, became more of a fan during the Purple Rain era. Then during the LoveSexy era. After that, my life became busier than it had been, so that's when the hiatus took place. Not on purpose of course, but I do believe I missed out on most of his 90s stuff. There's still a 'truckload' of his songs I hadn't heard until 2006, believe it or not. Never heard 'Empty Room', until I attended the show at the Empire Club in Vegas, and I asked someone what was that name of that song.

I saw two Lovesexy concerts when that tour happened in NYC. Absolutely loved it, moreso than the Purple Rain concerts.

[Edited 4/22/13 10:24am]

the tours I still am amazed by are the 1999, Parade & SOTT tours

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I tried going through each 1990's period album and looking at what he was doing, the music etc, it was definately a 'distracting' period with the WB battles picking up early on in the 1990's

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I watch him from afar then, Got a bit excited when I heard I Hate U, I felt that sounded like a return to foundational Prince, but I guess by the time the album came out Prince was over it.

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The SOTT tours wasn't in the U.S. was it? I thought I heard it was only overseas. I was back in NYC by late 1995, and still don't remember any 1999 or Parade tour. I guess I was surely out of the loop on Prince news somehow during that time frame.

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2elijah said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

the tours I still am amazed by are the 1999, Parade & SOTT tours

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I tried going through each 1990's period album and looking at what he was doing, the music etc, it was definately a 'distracting' period with the WB battles picking up early on in the 1990's

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I watch him from afar then, Got a bit excited when I heard I Hate U, I felt that sounded like a return to foundational Prince, but I guess by the time the album came out Prince was over it.

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The SOTT tours wasn't in the U.S. was it? I thought I heard it was only overseas. I was back in NYC by late 1995, and still don't remember any 1999 or Parade tour. I guess I was surely out of the loop on Prince news somehow during that time frame.

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I was wondering the same? The only other time I've seen a SOTT concert was in the movie (

OldFriends4Sale said:

2elijah said:

Moreso in the early 80s when an ex of mine showed me one of Prince's album. I, like many others though, became more of a fan during the Purple Rain era. Then during the LoveSexy era. After that, my life became busier than it had been, so that's when the hiatus took place. Not on purpose of course, but I do believe I missed out on most of his 90s stuff. There's still a 'truckload' of his songs I hadn't heard until 2006, believe it or not. Never heard 'Empty Room', until I attended the show at the Empire Club in Vegas, and I asked someone what was that name of that song.

I saw two Lovesexy concerts when that tour happened in NYC. Absolutely loved it, moreso than the Purple Rain concerts.

[Edited 4/22/13 10:24am]

the tours I still am amazed by are the 1999, Parade & SOTT tours

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I tried going through each 1990's period album and looking at what he was doing, the music etc, it was definately a 'distracting' period with the WB battles picking up early on in the 1990's

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I watch him from afar then, Got a bit excited when I heard I Hate U, I felt that sounded like a return to foundational Prince, but I guess by the time the album came out Prince was over it.

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What about the Nude Tour? I liked the stripped down element of this tour and some great versions came out during this time.

wonder505 said:

2elijah said:

The SOTT tours wasn't in the U.S. was it? I thought I heard it was only overseas. I was back in NYC by late 1995, and still don't remember any 1999 or Parade tour. I guess I was surely out of the loop on Prince news somehow during that time frame.

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I was wondering the same? The only other time I've seen a SOTT concert was in the movie (

Right, he did a couple of shows like the Fine lIne Cafe, and of course the MTV awards but he didn't tour the the States for SOTT (bad mistake)

chocolate1 said:

StonedImmaculate said:

And while I love the Revolution and would do damned near anything to see him seriously work with Wendy, Lisa and Susannah again...they were NOT the best band Prince ever had. Live in concert the Lovesexy band murders them, and the original NPG lineup destroys them.

I'm glad someone else said it!

It's like some weird act of sacrilege to say that on here.

I understand the nostalgia involved, and that people have different tastes, but I never understood the intense loyalty to those three women.

i have been saying the same thing and prince reason 4 getting rid of wendy and lisa was he wanted people he could change grooves and do various styles of music so apparently wendy and lisa were limited. they were good but shit the band with andre and dez kicked ass as well and rocked out far better than the revolution

Oldfriend4sale:

I don't think he's done anything 'unpredictable in a while' I just care for a good solid album of music that is definatively 'Prince'

Actually, I think he has been unpredictable, especially as of late, with or without an album. He recently released some new tracks within a 2-month time period, and also unexpectedly, introduced his trio of female band members, and seems to be taking a ‘rock’ path, which no one expected.

Not to mention, that for a while he did tone down on using very, sexual lyrics in his songs, although some songs within the past few years, still had a bit of sensuality, but two tracks he recently released: ‘Breakfast Can Wait’ and ‘That Girl Thang’, are very sensual. 'Breakfast Can Wait', a song about a man coaxing his lady friend to come back to bed, before she makes breakfast and leaves for work, and basically tells her that even though she makes the best southern breakfast of grits and gravy, cheese eggs and jam, with all the fixings, that he would rather have her as his breakfast instead, like dessert spread on a platter, as he assures and flatters her with his playboy-like persona, that she is the food that will satisfy his hunger, and when they get back to business in bed, even if the police came to the door, that couldn’t stop their love action.

But he doesn’t not stop there, because then he gives us ‘That Girl Thang’, a song about a man ( probably the same man from ‘Breakfast Can Wait’), (j/k), who is now totally p-whipped/sprung by his lady friend, waking up missing and lusting for her daily, as he puts away the playboy-like persona, and lets down his ego. He expresses how lost he feels, when she’s not around, even if she only steps out for a minute to run errands, as he impatiently and passionately waits for her to return to fulfill his desire/cravings for her. The guy in the song is vulnerable-in love, and innocently bares his soul, sensitivity and emotions-admitting he is sprung/p-whipped by his lady friend. Now who could express that in song better than Prince? I say that’s the ‘Do Me Baby’ Prince making another entrance into 2013...totally unexpected.

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2elijah said:

Oldfriend4sale:

I don't think he's done anything 'unpredictable in a while' I just care for a good solid album of music that is definatively 'Prince'

Actually, I think he has been unpredictable, especially as of late, with or without an album. He recently released some new tracks within a 2-month time period, and also unexpectedly, introduced his trio of female band members, and seems to be taking a ‘rock’ path, which no one expected.

Not to mention, that for a while he did tone down on using very, sexual lyrics in his songs, although some songs within the past few years, still had a bit of sensuality, but two tracks he recently released: ‘Breakfast Can Wait’ and ‘That Girl Thang’, are very sensual. 'Breakfast Can Wait', a song about a man coaxing his lady friend to come back to bed, before she makes breakfast and leaves for work, and basically tells her that even though she makes the best southern breakfast of grits and gravy, cheese eggs and jam, with all the fixings, that he would rather have her as his breakfast instead, like dessert spread on a platter, as he assures and flatters her with his playboy-like persona, that she is the food that will satisfy his hunger, and when they get back to business in bed, even if the police came to the door, that couldn’t stop their love action.

But he doesn’t not stop there, because then he gives us ‘That Girl Thang’, a song about a man ( probably the same man from ‘Breakfast Can Wait’), (j/k), who is now totally p-whipped/sprung by his lady friend, waking up missing and lusting for her daily, as he puts away the playboy-like persona, and lets down his ego. He expresses how lost he feels, when she’s not around, even if she only steps out for a minute to run errands, as he impatiently and passionately waits for her to return to fulfill his desire/cravings for her. The guy in the song is vulnerable-in love, and innocently bares his soul, sensitivity and emotions-admitting he is sprung/p-whipped by his lady friend. Now who could express that in song better than Prince? I say that’s the ‘Do Me Baby’ Prince making another entrance into 2013...totally unexpected.

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I personally don't see most of it as unpredictable. the all female band a bit...its weird in a kewl kinda way, because for a few years a lot of org members have been saying he needs an all female band And thats ok. Right now I don't have expectations on him other than when he does release an album. It's top quality and cohesive with a direction.

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He said he wasn't going to release another album for a while. And I felt he needed to take a break, so it didn't shock me at all. Especially since I know for a while he's had issues with finding a venue to release them: LotusFlower only thru a Target store and 20Ten only in a part of Europe. America never had official access.

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If u think about the Parade album(1986) that was probably one of his most toned down albums. Outside of a lot of the 1990s vulgarity (which I wasn't a fan of his much then) Prince has always used smokescreen sexuality. Rainbow Children probably have the most erotically charged lyrics of his 2000 albums....talking about toys and bringing herself 2 joy....

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I do like a lot of the music I've heard so far, Live Out Loud is prob the most unexpected thing he's done in a while(the song)

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OldFriends4Sale said:

2elijah said:

Actually, I think he has been unpredictable, especially as of late, with or without an album. He recently released some new tracks within a 2-month time period, and also unexpectedly, introduced his trio of female band members, and seems to be taking a ‘rock’ path, which no one expected.

Not to mention, that for a while he did tone down on using very, sexual lyrics in his songs, although some songs within the past few years, still had a bit of sensuality, but two tracks he recently released: ‘Breakfast Can Wait’ and ‘That Girl Thang’, are very sensual. 'Breakfast Can Wait', a song about a man coaxing his lady friend to come back to bed, before she makes breakfast and leaves for work, and basically tells her that even though she makes the best southern breakfast of grits and gravy, cheese eggs and jam, with all the fixings, that he would rather have her as his breakfast instead, like dessert spread on a platter, as he assures and flatters her with his playboy-like persona, that she is the food that will satisfy his hunger, and when they get back to business in bed, even if the police came to the door, that couldn’t stop their love action.

But he doesn’t not stop there, because then he gives us ‘That Girl Thang’, a song about a man ( probably the same man from ‘Breakfast Can Wait’), (j/k), who is now totally p-whipped/sprung by his lady friend, waking up missing and lusting for her daily, as he puts away the playboy-like persona, and lets down his ego. He expresses how lost he feels, when she’s not around, even if she only steps out for a minute to run errands, as he impatiently and passionately waits for her to return to fulfill his desire/cravings for her. The guy in the song is vulnerable-in love, and innocently bares his soul, sensitivity and emotions-admitting he is sprung/p-whipped by his lady friend. Now who could express that in song better than Prince? I say that’s the ‘Do Me Baby’ Prince making another entrance into 2013...totally unexpected.

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OF4S said:
I personally don't see most of it as unpredictable. .

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2elijah said:

You mean you don't find the two, recently released tracks'Breakfast Can Wait and 'That Girl Thang' unexpectedly sensual? I do, especially since he's been kind of playing it safe with sexually-suggestive lyrics, during the 2000 era and a little before that.

As I said before, iIn 'Breakfast Can Wait', he sings to his lady friend, coaxing her back to bed by flattering her with compliments, and although she wants to get up and cook breakfast for him, he convinces her that she is the breakfast that he wants a second helping of, and tells her that she just can't leave a man in 'this state' and have to come back to the bedroom to cure his hunger. ('this state' referencing the man-thing standing at attention).

Then in the track "That Girl Thang" he sings about a man that is so passionately, sprung by the ecstasy of his lady friend, which he is weakend by--is a prisoner of her love, and has daily urges/cravings for her to the point, he feels lost when she is not around or when she just leaves him for a minute, as he impatiently waits for her to return so he could make love to her again.

OF4s said:

the all female band a bit...its weird in a kewl kinda way, because for a few years a lot of org members have been saying he needs an all female band And thats ok

Right now I don't have expectations on him other than when he does release an album. It's top quality and cohesive with a direction.

2elijah said:

On a different note, about Prince's new female trio band, that's the point, that was unexpected also, and as far as you stating that if he releases an album, you're looking for a "..top quality and cohesive album with direction", well then, you do have expectations buddy.

OF4S said

He said he wasn't going to release another album for a while. And I felt he needed to take a break, so it didn't shock me at all. Especially since I know for a while he's had issues with finding a venue to release them: LotusFlower only thru a Target store and 20Ten only in a part of Europe. America never had official access.

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2elijah said:

Yes, but even though 20TEN wasn't released in the states, eventually many American fans were still able to hear that album, which I thought some of the tracks from that album, had a bit of motown, and that slow-ballads feel of the early, 70s male soul-singer groups i.e. Delfonics/StylisticsSmokey Robinson, etc., and some upbeat tracks reminded me of the Brothers Johnson.

OF4S said

If u think about the Parade album(1986) that was probably one of his most toned down albums. Outside of a lot of the 1990s vulgarity (which I wasn't a fan of his much then) Prince has always used smokescreen sexuality. Rainbow Children probably have the most erotically charged lyrics of his 2000 albums....talking about toys and bringing herself 2 joy....

2elijah said:

Not sure I'm familiar with all the songs on the Parade Album. Not sure I agree about the type of lyrics on the Rainbow Children album being erotically charged. I'll have to go back and listen again.

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OF4S said:

I do like a lot of the music I've heard so far, Live Out Loud is prob the most unexpected thing he's done in a while(the song)

2elijah said:
I like "Breakfast Can Wait", "That Girl Thing" and "Boyfriend" so far. 'Live Out Loud' is obviously and inspirational and uplifting song promoting positivity and confidence. Also, the version of 'Bambi' that they recently released, When I heard it on the Jimmy Fallon Show, that was the first time I heard it. I am so far behind in a lot of Prince's music, that it will take a while to catch up to some of his 80/90s stuff.

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Interesting read.


Saw her perform last year.

Really enjoyed her show.

And she looks great!



It's tough that she has worked so hard for so many years and she is still struggling with money.

Yes, she was all about the music and probably love.


And now she's older, she still has to work hard for every dime, and still she can't relax and feel comfortable.

THat is a harsh lesson about her naivity that she just focused on the music and the love.



It's good that she talks about it openly, so younger girls can learn from it.

And be 50% about pure music and love and 50% about building her own financial savety net.

OldFriends4Sale said:

purple1968 said:

You asked this question. I answered it.

"oh please, who from the 1980s have you heard complaining about not getting paid?"

I remember reading that all of the Revolution got a million dollar bonus at the end of the tour. If they wrote songs and were not compenstated they have a beef but if they were just playing on the damm CD or not in some cases what compensation by 1980s pay would they have expected.

Susannah was not bitching about about getting paid

and Jellybean probably has some legit issues

She was very mature about it.

She got paid very little, but she stayed because she loved making the music.


And Peterson could not afford to stay because he had the responsebility to take care of his kids. And in order to do that , he simply needed more money than he got paid by Prince.


She doesn't blame Prince for the break up of the band. At least, that is not how I read it.

I don't know if he should have been more generous from a humane perspective. But Susannah mentions that nobody made big money then. It was later on, when the big amounts came in.

I don't know if Prince still makes a lot of money on the albums they made back then.
He is legally not obliged to share some of that profit with the musicians he hired back then.
But it would be classy if he would make sure they don't have to scrape by, nowadays.


Yes, they have his name on their resume.

But he also got them to support him in achieving the career he has build for himself.



And of course, the big bosses from the record companies should be ashamed that a musician as Sussanah struggles with her mortgage.

They also could share a little of their fortune with the people who actually did the work.


I think Sussanah is the real class act here.

She does not regret and does not hold any grudges.

She is positive about that period and apreciates all the experiences.


I think she is wonderful.

Will buy her music as soon as I get myself out of debt.