woogiebear said:

MickyDolenz said:

Neither does Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, The Eagles, Madonna, The Rolling Stones, U2, and a lot of other acts. But it doesn't stop them from touring. I'd say Paul & Ringo are more wealthy than Jam & Lewis, so not needing the money isn't really an excuse for dropping out. Michael Nesmith recently finished a tour with The Monkees and is now going on a solo tour. He doesn't really need to perform at all since his mother invented Liquid Paper and he inherited her fortune.

True, BUT- all those Guys are still "Touring Musicians" except Jam & Lewis. Jesse really wanted 2 tour, so He hooked up w/D'Angelo

Not necessarily. Until last year, Mike Nesmith hasn't done a tour since the Monkees 1996 UK tour (and he quit before the tour reached the US), and hasn't done a solo tour since the early 1990's.

BlaqueKnight said:

Great interview. The usual cockjockeys will always try to make a case for Prince.

Is Bean bitter? Hell yeah! He should be. $150 a week? WTF? Tell ya what: Imagine one of your close friends becomes a millionaire and then he/she tells you they have a job for you. Come work for them and they have your back. Then they pay you less than minimum wage. Its just more proof that the "trickle down theory" doesn't work. People take advantage to those closest to them because they can get away with it. Why wouldn't he feel bitter? He got fucked over by his so-called friend. I see some of you have no concept of loyalty, so it speaks volumes when people support that "48 laws of power" behavior. I feel no sympathy whatsoever for Prince when he whines in his songs about being alone. When you alienate those around you through your deceitful behavior, that is your fate.

Some would rebut that "they wouldn't be anywhere without Prince" but look at it this way:

An architect could say to a carpenter "You wouldn't have a job if I didn't draw this building"

The carpenter could just as easily reply: "Correction, I wouldn't have a job WITH YOU if you didn't draw that building. You are not the only architect." Such can also be said for the members of The Time. As he said, they have all had top 10 records. They have skills. They are architects within their own right. Prince wanted to be the only star and he deliberately manipulated people who trusted him to make sure that is how it went down.

Just because people have to accept the past doesn't mean they should be happy about it.

They weren't his fans; they were there before all of that. They were supposed to be his friends.

Its amazing how some of these rap crews have better business sense than Prince. They stand behind each other and help make each other famous until everyone is well off. They have it right.

Interesting, but I just don’t see anything wrong with people suggesting that the best thing for JB to do is to move on, because apparently JB said he is doing just that, regardless of the bitterness he admitted he still harbors for his former friend. I also don't see how people suggesting that the best thing for JB, is to 'move on', could be viewed by you, as just another excuse, used by those you basically refer to as 'jockeyriders on the penis' of JB's former friend. Let's remember that readers are only reading one side of an experience, and that is not saying JB isn't telling the truth, but let's be fair, regardless of what some readers, choose to believe, and at least acknowledge that there are two sides to every story. Readers of the interview, can only form their opinion by the information JB shares of his experience with a former friend.

JB seems very confident in knowing he has talent, and admits in the interview that he is aware of his talent. That example you used about the Carpenter, telling the Architect, that if he didn’t draw the building, he wouldn’t have a job with him, after the Architect initially made a similar comment to the Carpenter (vice versa); well, with both the Architect and Carpenter making similar comments to one another, apparently both are aware at that moment, that if their business relationship doesn’t work out, they’d move on to finding someone in that profession of interest, to work with instead. That’s what you call having a ‘Plan B’ while in the process of 'Plan A'.

There is also nothing wrong with readers of the interview, stating they sense(d) some form of bitterness from JB, which JB admits. Not saying that when a friendship goes bad, you shouldn’t be allowed to express the hurt/pain that transpired between those involved, but at some point, you have to choose to move on from that hurt, and accept the hard truth, that you two may never be friends or work together again, but you never know, because sometimes life surprises us.

JB also doesn’t just express that bitterness towards one from a past friendship, but also expresses his disgust with some of his current, longtime friendships or as JB puts it, his other ‘rich friends’.

Again, readers can only form an opinion, based on what is stated in that interview. JB is a talented musician, who apparently, after his breakup with one friend, states he moved on to working with other well-known musicians/artists down the road. Now did he get rich from those experiences, like some believe(d)? Obviously he expresses he has not, because he reveals that many people were under the impression that he did, just based on some well-known musicians/artists, JB worked with in the past and throughout the years. He also goes on to discuss some of the things he is currently going through in his personal life. With that, all one can do is wish JB the best with his music career and whatever personal issues he is trying to resolve in his life.

[Edited 3/26/13 17:25pm]

2elijah said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Great interview. The usual cockjockeys will always try to make a case for Prince.

Is Bean bitter? Hell yeah! He should be. $150 a week? WTF? Tell ya what: Imagine one of your close friends becomes a millionaire and then he/she tells you they have a job for you. Come work for them and they have your back. Then they pay you less than minimum wage. Its just more proof that the "trickle down theory" doesn't work. People take advantage to those closest to them because they can get away with it. Why wouldn't he feel bitter? He got fucked over by his so-called friend. I see some of you have no concept of loyalty, so it speaks volumes when people support that "48 laws of power" behavior. I feel no sympathy whatsoever for Prince when he whines in his songs about being alone. When you alienate those around you through your deceitful behavior, that is your fate.

Some would rebut that "they wouldn't be anywhere without Prince" but look at it this way:

An architect could say to a carpenter "You wouldn't have a job if I didn't draw this building"

The carpenter could just as easily reply: "Correction, I wouldn't have a job WITH YOU if you didn't draw that building. You are not the only architect." Such can also be said for the members of The Time. As he said, they have all had top 10 records. They have skills. They are architects within their own right. Prince wanted to be the only star and he deliberately manipulated people who trusted him to make sure that is how it went down.

Just because people have to accept the past doesn't mean they should be happy about it.

They weren't his fans; they were there before all of that. They were supposed to be his friends.

Its amazing how some of these rap crews have better business sense than Prince. They stand behind each other and help make each other famous until everyone is well off. They have it right.

Interesting, but I just don’t see anything wrong with people suggesting that the best thing for JB to do is to move on, because apparently JB said he is doing just that, regardless of the bitterness he admitted he still harbors for his former friend. I also don't see how people suggesting that the best thing for JB, is to 'move on', could be viewed by you, as just another excuse, used by those you basically refer to as 'jockeyriders on the penis' of JB's former friend. Let's remember that readers are only reading one side of an experience, and that is not saying JB isn't telling the truth, but let's be fair, regardless of what some readers, choose to believe, and at least acknowledge that there are two sides to every story. Readers of the interview, can only form their opinion by the information JB shares of his experience with a former friend.

JB seems very confident in knowing he has talent, and admits in the interview that he is aware of his talent. That example you used about the Carpenter, telling the Architect, that if he didn’t draw the building, he wouldn’t have a job with him, after the Architect initially made a similar comment to the Carpenter (vice versa); well, with both the Architect and Carpenter making similar comments to one another, apparently both are aware at that moment, that if their business relationship doesn’t work out, they’d move on to finding someone in that profession of interest, to work with instead. That’s what you call having a ‘Plan B’ while in the process of 'Plan A'.

There is also nothing wrong with readers of the interview, stating they sense(d) some form of bitterness from JB, which JB admits. Not saying that when a friendship goes bad, you shouldn’t be allowed to express the hurt/pain that transpired between those involved, but at some point, you have to choose to move on from that hurt, and accept the hard truth, that you two may never be friends or work together again, but you never know, because sometimes life surprises us.

JB also doesn’t just express that bitterness towards one from a past friendship, but also expresses his disgust with some of his current, longtime friendships or as JB puts it, his other ‘rich friends’.

Again, readers can only form an opinion, based on what is stated in that interview. JB is a talented musician, who apparently, after his breakup with one friend, states he moved on to working with other well-known musicians/artists down the road. Now did he get rich from those experiences, like some believe(d)? Obviously he expresses he has not, because he reveals that many people were under the impression that he did, just based on some well-known musicians/artists, JB worked with in the past and throughout the years. He also goes on to discuss some of the things he is currently going through in his personal life. With that, all one can do is wish JB the best with his music career and whatever personal issues he is trying to resolve in his life.

[Edited 3/26/13 17:25pm]

If you would have just wished Jellybean the best with his music career and whatever personal issues he is trying to resolve in his life in your Reply #1 instead of in your 6th reply (Reply #27) this thread would not be off the rails, I would not have gone "off the deep end", and you wouldn't look hypocritical, unsympathetic, and superior acting to me.

I wonder if you thought about this when you were typing your last reply because you make yourself appear hypocritical on this thread.

There are two sides to every story and I hope no one holds their breath waiting for Prince's side of the story.

Again, Prince and some of his fans come off as unsympathetic and like they consider themselves superior to others but Jellybean Johnson is another person telling the truth about Prince and he seems like he also doesn't give a damn what Prince and his fans think.

Peace

[Edited 3/29/13 6:40am]

2elijah said:

funksterr said:

This thread is off the rails. None of what Jellybean said is new info. He never was too crazy about Prince's attitude and numerous Prince bios say Jellybean and Prince don't like each other. And he didn't say Jam and Lewis broke up O7ven. What he is saying is that they are working on other projects, like Jerome Benton's musical. My personal assumptions are this: I think Prince played all of the protoges, when they had that meeting with him, where rumour has it, he complained that they were not speaking kindly enough about him in the media and therefore he was not supoorting their reunions. I think Jam, Lewis and Bobby Z, took the bait and that has caused a rift within The Revolution and The Time, where various members want to go forward without Prince if necessary, while others think it is more beneficial to have his approval and involvement and are willing to play his game to get it. The problem is Prince will just string them along endlessly and in the end they will get no real support from him either way.

Okay then, but if that is how you see it, then just going by that, it doesn't take much common sense for them to know when it's time to 'cut the placenta' and move on does it?

No group of people agree completely on anything. These guys are no different. Some estimate Prince to be negotiable and some estimate him to be non-negotiable. And that's the whole enchilada.

Sassey said:

2elijah said:

Interesting, but I just don’t see anything wrong with people suggesting that the best thing for JB to do is to move on, because apparently JB said he is doing just that, regardless of the bitterness he admitted he still harbors for his former friend. I also don't see how people suggesting that the best thing for JB, is to 'move on', could be viewed by you, as just another excuse, used by those you basically refer to as 'jockeyriders on the penis' of JB's former friend. Let's remember that readers are only reading one side of an experience, and that is not saying JB isn't telling the truth, but let's be fair, regardless of what some readers, choose to believe, and at least acknowledge that there are two sides to every story. Readers of the interview, can only form their opinion by the information JB shares of his experience with a former friend.

JB seems very confident in knowing he has talent, and admits in the interview that he is aware of his talent. That example you used about the Carpenter, telling the Architect, that if he didn’t draw the building, he wouldn’t have a job with him, after the Architect initially made a similar comment to the Carpenter (vice versa); well, with both the Architect and Carpenter making similar comments to one another, apparently both are aware at that moment, that if their business relationship doesn’t work out, they’d move on to finding someone in that profession of interest, to work with instead. That’s what you call having a ‘Plan B’ while in the process of 'Plan A'.

There is also nothing wrong with readers of the interview, stating they sense(d) some form of bitterness from JB, which JB admits. Not saying that when a friendship goes bad, you shouldn’t be allowed to express the hurt/pain that transpired between those involved, but at some point, you have to choose to move on from that hurt, and accept the hard truth, that you two may never be friends or work together again, but you never know, because sometimes life surprises us.

JB also doesn’t just express that bitterness towards one from a past friendship, but also expresses his disgust with some of his current, longtime friendships or as JB puts it, his other ‘rich friends’.

Again, readers can only form an opinion, based on what is stated in that interview. JB is a talented musician, who apparently, after his breakup with one friend, states he moved on to working with other well-known musicians/artists down the road. Now did he get rich from those experiences, like some believe(d)? Obviously he expresses he has not, because he reveals that many people were under the impression that he did, just based on some well-known musicians/artists, JB worked with in the past and throughout the years. He also goes on to discuss some of the things he is currently going through in his personal life. With that, all one can do is wish JB the best with his music career and whatever personal issues he is trying to resolve in his life.

[Edited 3/26/13 17:25pm]

If you would have just wished Jellybean the best with his music career and whatever personal issues he is trying to resolve in his life in your Reply #1 instead of in your 6th reply (Reply #27) this thread would not be off the rails, I would not have gone "off the deep end", and you wouldn't look hypocritical, unsympathetic, and superior acting to me.

I wonder if you thought about this when you were typing your last reply because you make yourself appear hypocritical on this thread.

There are two sides to every story and I hope no one holds their breath waiting for Prince's side of the story.

Again, Prince and some of his fans come off as unsympathetic and like they consider themselves superior to others but Jellybean Johnson is another person telling the truth about Prince and he seems like he also doesn't give a damn what Prince and his fans think.

Peace

[Edited 3/29/13 6:40am]

I do believe in your prior post, you said that was your last reply to me. "Hypocritical much?"

You seem to have some form of uncertainty of your own opinion, by accusing others of 'acting superior' over your views of JB's comments. Furthermore, I don't recall anyone stating JB wasn't 'telling the truth', just moreso that he comes off 'bitter', in which JB openly admits that he is harboring bitterness. So how is anyone 'wrong' for acknowledging something JB openly admits to? Or did you miss when he said that in the interview?

There is also nothing "hypocritical, unsympathetic or one acting superior" by saying "all one can do is wish JB the best with his music career and whatever personal issues he is trying to resolve in his life.".

You and I could keep going back and forth on our opinions on this or we can 'agree to disagree', which I will do right now, because I stand by my opinion, and it will not change. If sending well wishes, and suggesting that moving forward from bitterness, is a much 'healthier' path to take-mentally, spiritually and physically-rather than being a slave to one's bitterness, well then damn....I'm guilty as charged with absolutely no regrets. Hope, this time you really do find some 'peace'.

2elijah said:

Sassey said:

If you would have just wished Jellybean the best with his music career and whatever personal issues he is trying to resolve in his life in your Reply #1 instead of in your 6th reply (Reply #27) this thread would not be off the rails, I would not have gone "off the deep end", and you wouldn't look hypocritical, unsympathetic, and superior acting to me.

I wonder if you thought about this when you were typing your last reply because you make yourself appear hypocritical on this thread.

There are two sides to every story and I hope no one holds their breath waiting for Prince's side of the story.

Again, Prince and some of his fans come off as unsympathetic and like they consider themselves superior to others but Jellybean Johnson is another person telling the truth about Prince and he seems like he also doesn't give a damn what Prince and his fans think.

Peace

[Edited 3/29/13 6:40am]

I do believe in your prior post, you said that was your last reply to me. "Hypocritical much?"

You seem to have some form of uncertainty of your own opinion, by accusing others of 'acting superior' over your views of JB's comments. Furthermore, I don't recall anyone stating JB wasn't 'telling the truth', just moreso that he comes off 'bitter', in which JB openly admits that he is harboring bitterness. So how is anyone 'wrong' for acknowledging something JB openly admits to? Or did you miss when he said that in the interview?

There is also nothing "hypocritical, unsympathetic or one acting superior" by saying "all one can do is wish JB the best with his music career and whatever personal issues he is trying to resolve in his life.".

You and I could keep going back and forth on our opinions on this or we can 'agree to disagree', which I will do right now, because I stand by my opinion, and it will not change. If sending well wishes, and suggesting that moving forward from bitterness, is a much 'healthier' path to take-mentally, spiritually and physically-rather than being a slave to one's bitterness, well then damn....I'm guilty as charged with absolutely no regrets. Hope, this time you really do find some 'peace'.

I can do whatever I choose to do and changing my mind and choosing to reply to you again is something I chose to do. It's good to have the freedom of choice. There's nothing hypocritical about me changing my mind. How do people appear hypocritical to you for choosing to say and do what they want? If Prince can do and say what he wants, fans like yourself shouldn't expect other people like Jellybean and me not to do the same.

I came on this thread and made a few statements. I didn't care if Jellybean was bitter or not. I do agree with BlaqueKnight and if only this person had posted before I made my first reply, you would not have had the opportunity to project on me.

I already stated we don't agree. I don't want to change any of your opinions. If you think you can tell me, "I'm sure you could have thought of something much different to compare my opinion to" and you don't even know me, I'm sure it must be stressful for you to believe all that you think you know. I imagine trying to read and change other people's opinions on a message board would be stressful. I looked at your profile and I see you've been at this for years. Continue to do whatever you choose to do and please remember others, not only you and Prince, have the right to do the same.

and I'm not puzzled you found Jellybean's comments funny.

Reply #1

2elijah said:

Good lawd. What's funny, is JellyBean makes all these snide comments about Prince-- his current music and band members in that interview, and speaks with some resentment towards Prince, yet in present day, JellyBean doesn't seem to have a problem performing songs written by Prince, with former, Prince band members that were once part of a group Prince created. I wonder if JellyBean thought about that when he did that interview, because he makes himself appear hypocritical in that article.

[Edited 3/29/13 20:14pm]

wow. you all got a lot of personal advice for guy you don't know.

Looking back Jellybean has only thought about what would've been if the Time was left in it's original line-up. He's forgotten(or overlooked) that Morris didn't want to lead a band and just wanted to be Prince's drummer. Heck until Alexander O'Neal demanded more money Morris was simply going to be a drummer in the group. Prince fired Jimmy and Terry because he was "the boss". He got the Time and Vanity 6 their deals and he took them on the road to play places they'd never have gotten booked in otherwise. If the Time was truly Morris' band then he should've stepped up and told Prince that he wasn't going to let Jimmy & Terry go but he didn't. So if Prince is an asshole for being 'the boss'(and making the boss decisions) then what does that make Morris for not standing up for 'his band'?

Bean breakin it down.

HonestMan13 said:

Looking back Jellybean has only thought about what would've been if the Time was left in it's original line-up. He's forgotten(or overlooked) that Morris didn't want to lead a band and just wanted to be Prince's drummer. Heck until Alexander O'Neal demanded more money Morris was simply going to be a drummer in the group. Prince fired Jimmy and Terry because he was "the boss". He got the Time and Vanity 6 their deals and he took them on the road to play places they'd never have gotten booked in otherwise. If the Time was truly Morris' band then he should've stepped up and told Prince that he wasn't going to let Jimmy & Terry go but he didn't. So if Prince is an asshole for being 'the boss'(and making the boss decisions) then what does that make Morris for not standing up for 'his band'?

In other words, "Nobody can take advantage of you without your permission."

There are two sides to every story.

RodeoSchro said:

There are two sides to every story.

In other words, i believe that Morris bailes on the time for a solo career right after Purple Rain and St Paul bailes on the family.. So, why would Prince want to endorese groups who are 25 years past their prime.. Just curious, whats his upside for doing that ? The train left the station. JB was involed with Flyte Tyme as a staff producer. He shoudl have an axe to grind with JJ and TL more then Prince. What exactly is his beef ? Prince paid them 150 a week 30 some odd years ago...I'm not buying it.. He needs to move on.. He hates the Purple Rain residual checks as if Prine controle that; that s a WB thing which Prince has no control over... At the end of the day, they are employees at will which is what the majorityy of folks are' no tear here

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afro75 said:

Part 2 is quite interesting, especially when he talks about Prince.

From Purple Rain to the Blues: Part 2 of our interview with the Time's Jellybean Johnson

http://beldonsbluespoint.blogspot.com/2013/03/from-purple-rain-to-blues-part-2-of-our.html

From part 2 :

BBP: There was a rivalry (in the movie) between the Time and Prince’s people, the Revolution.

Johnson: And trust me, he used that—that had been going on for a couple of years—he used that to his advantage in that movie. And this is why he actually kicked Terry and Jimmy out of the fucking Time! Right beforePurple Rain! Go back and watchPurple Rain. Jimmy and Terry—and people to this day think they are (in the movie). They’re not in Purple Rain. They’re not! He kicked them out! And it was supposed to be Morris’ band. He (Prince) fired them a few days before, and that’s why they went on to be famous producers.

What is JB talking about I thought I saw Terry and Jimmy in there with The Time performing???

Frederick96 said:

It's strange to be bitter after so many years.

A $150/week while on the road for 3 months, if true, would make alot of musicians bitter putting it lightly!

This is off the chain (the full blog)!

Astasheiks said:

What is JB talking about I thought I saw Terry and Jimmy in there with The Time performing???

Jimmy, Terry, & Monte are not in the movie. It's Jerry (or Gerry) Hubbard, Mark Cardenas, & Paul Peterson. Jerry & Mark were later members of Jesse Johnson's Revue.

its not just about prince the way this interview is putting it he has a problem with everybody from his past morris, jimmy and terry, jesse and jerome.people will always find a way 2 knock prince and talk shit about him b/c he is the one artist who u will never catch on twitter or doing interviews beefing with anybody.its funny how so many past artist bring up prince never but u rarely ever hear their names coming from him when he does a interview.being that prince and jeallybean grew up 2gether and they were all so musically tight maybe he feels like the wealth that prince has maybe some of it should be thrown his way as well.its no way to look back and change shit i can see if this was 2 weeks ago this been over 30 years honey its ways past time 2 stop blaming and live yo own life

Jesse Johnson and Jerome being taken off stage by Prince bodyguard and being handcuffed to a rack or rail while Prince went played Jesse's guitar parts on stage with The Time is hilarious!!!

cbarnes3121 said:

its not just about prince the way this interview is putting it he has a problem with everybody from his past morris, jimmy and terry, jesse and jerome.people will always find a way 2 knock prince and talk shit about him b/c he is the one artist who u will never catch on twitter or doing interviews beefing with anybody.its funny how so many past artist bring up prince never but u rarely ever hear their names coming from him when he does a interview.being that prince and jeallybean grew up 2gether and they were all so musically tight maybe he feels like the wealth that prince has maybe some of it should be thrown his way as well.its no way to look back and change shit i can see if this was 2 weeks ago this been over 30 years honey its ways past time 2 stop blaming and live yo own life

That's because Prince believes his own hype and thinks he acheived it all by himself instead of the reality of the people who supported and helped him early in his career. That's why he never talks about them.

Zannaloaf said:

cbarnes3121 said:

its not just about prince the way this interview is putting it he has a problem with everybody from his past morris, jimmy and terry, jesse and jerome.people will always find a way 2 knock prince and talk shit about him b/c he is the one artist who u will never catch on twitter or doing interviews beefing with anybody.its funny how so many past artist bring up prince never but u rarely ever hear their names coming from him when he does a interview.being that prince and jeallybean grew up 2gether and they were all so musically tight maybe he feels like the wealth that prince has maybe some of it should be thrown his way as well.its no way to look back and change shit i can see if this was 2 weeks ago this been over 30 years honey its ways past time 2 stop blaming and live yo own life

That's because Prince believes his own hype and thinks he acheived it all by himself instead of the reality of the people who supported and helped him early in his career. That's why he never talks about them.

i dont believe that when prince is interviewd nobody ever asks him about his past or present employees and they never seem 2 care.when prince came 2 charlotte i was standing amongst a group of like 40 people i asked all of em about his memebers and they all basically answered they dont give a hot damn who is in prince band as long as prince come and when i asked them 2 name a band member they were naming people like morris day . i really dont think the majority of the public care too much about who's who

Zannaloaf said:

cbarnes3121 said:

its not just about prince the way this interview is putting it he has a problem with everybody from his past morris, jimmy and terry, jesse and jerome.people will always find a way 2 knock prince and talk shit about him b/c he is the one artist who u will never catch on twitter or doing interviews beefing with anybody.its funny how so many past artist bring up prince never but u rarely ever hear their names coming from him when he does a interview.being that prince and jeallybean grew up 2gether and they were all so musically tight maybe he feels like the wealth that prince has maybe some of it should be thrown his way as well.its no way to look back and change shit i can see if this was 2 weeks ago this been over 30 years honey its ways past time 2 stop blaming and live yo own life

That's because Prince believes his own hype and thinks he acheived it all by himself instead of the reality of the people who supported and helped him early in his career. That's why he never talks about them.

How do you know that's what Prince believes and thats exactly why he never talks about them? what about what Jellybean has to say about Jimmy, Terry and Morris?

Zannaloaf said:

cbarnes3121 said:

its not just about prince the way this interview is putting it he has a problem with everybody from his past morris, jimmy and terry, jesse and jerome.people will always find a way 2 knock prince and talk shit about him b/c he is the one artist who u will never catch on twitter or doing interviews beefing with anybody.its funny how so many past artist bring up prince never but u rarely ever hear their names coming from him when he does a interview.being that prince and jeallybean grew up 2gether and they were all so musically tight maybe he feels like the wealth that prince has maybe some of it should be thrown his way as well.its no way to look back and change shit i can see if this was 2 weeks ago this been over 30 years honey its ways past time 2 stop blaming and live yo own life

That's because Prince believes his own hype and thinks he acheived it all by himself instead of the reality of the people who supported and helped him early in his career. That's why he never talks about them.

Or maybe he's just not going to keep going on about stuff that happened three decades ago like it was yesterday. These questions are being asked of the former proteges because the interviewer wants "the dirt" and to stir up some shit. All of these people have been working musicians for years upon years any interview with them shouldn't be so heavily focused on the Prince connection in the first place.

Zannaloaf said:

Zannaloaf said: It is so awesome to read fans response to people who were actually involved in the career and personal life of Prince. Like they are representing Prince while knowing ZERO about him personally. Hilarious.

That's because Prince believes his own hype and thinks he acheived it all by himself instead of the reality of the people who supported and helped him early in his career. That's why he never talks about them.

Do you know Prince personally?

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WHy do they keep calling Susannah a keyboardist?

So...let's calculate.

The Time played background for Vanity 6's 20min set on the 1999 tour, then played their own 45min set. That's one hour and 5min of work. They probably played 6 shows a week (I could go to wikipedia and count the shows but I wont). $250 ($150 for themselves, $100 for Vanity 6 work) breaks down to $41.67 per hour (I guess I shoul calculate soundchecks and all that, but wahtever). They also got to live the lifestyle they dreamed of, see the country, stay in plush hotels, eat, and take their pick of groupies...all on the dime of a guy they went to high school with who made it big on his own, then decided to go back down and get "his boys".

Yeah Prince was making bank and could have (and probably should have) paid them more, but these megas need to shut the fuck up. Were it not for Prince, how far would any of these guys gotten? Sure Jimmy and Terry and Jesse have major talent, but I'll bet it was a whole lot easier for them to make money afterwards, seeing as every exec looked at them and saw dollar signs because "They used to work with Prince!"

And i wont even get into the fact that there is no doubt in my mind that Prince was the butt of the clique's jokes when they were growing up together, broke in Minneapolis. Anyone who grew up with a clique of "brothas" knows how it is...playing the dozens, etc. Prince's huge afro wearing, sawed off, narrow, feminine ass did not stand a chance...not to mention, werent they rivals and had Battle of the Bands competitions and what have you (or is that just myth)? But I digress.

Bottom line - Prince has done plenty to show that he has some major asshole tendencies, but for these cats to still be focusing on how badly they were treated and underpaid in his camp is just ridiculous. The only legit complaint they have is the fact that Prince wanted to be completely in control, even after realizing how talented a cadre of artists he had at his disposal.

Shut the fuck up!

wonder505 said:

Zannaloaf said:

That's because Prince believes his own hype and thinks he acheived it all by himself instead of the reality of the people who supported and helped him early in his career. That's why he never talks about them.

How do you know that's what Prince believes and thats exactly why he never talks about them? what about what Jellybean has to say about Jimmy, Terry and Morris?

how do u know what prince believe cuz i never said a got damn word about what prince believe u the one said cuz prince believes his own hype. u think u know it all on here laughs at ya sue bell

Jellybean is being disrespectful as fuck mentioning some things here. You don't mention things like what people get paid.