thebanishedone said:

Honestman i will answer your questions. 1)No i am not a friend with Andy Allo but i can tell you that you have a much bigger chance to chat on the net with Ernie Isley then Andy.Ernie is a guitar legend and music icon. 2)well you can always say that you like Andy's "singing" but i can always point you flat and offkey singing by Andy.Kimmel performance have at least 10 offkey moments ,can you point otherwise?

Now I remember why all of this is so familiar. You made a thread about Vanity unfriending you awhile back(asking if she was crazy) and then you also made a post about Andy not speaking directly to fans through her FB page. I also recall you saying that you didn't personally want to talk to Andy but were speaking for others behalf (arrogance itself). Yet still it seems you are extremely bothered by not having some contact with her and other artists which is not a requirement of theirs to fulfill. As for the music you can take it or leave it as is your preference. So the lack of contact seems your primary reason for dogging her and others who deny you.

thebanishedone said:

No dude,that is your interpretation.i asked if Vanity is crazy,but not because of what you said.in the original thread i wrote that Vanity told me that if i fornicate i will get aids and die.and so i need to read bible which is in her own words a basic instruction before you leave the earth . Yes i did say that many ppl tried to contact Andy but she acted as a big star and never did respond.And when i say that Andy can't sing and play it's not because of the reasons you would like to present as valid.in the last message i wrote you peace and tried to stop what leads to argument,but now i c that you have a problem and like to twist other people words.it's nice that you follow my topics,to tell you the truth your topics never caught my eye,but now i will remember you.thank you for your introduction,you should try comedy ,it works for you and pls learn one more language beside english,don't be so primitive

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alexandernevamind said:

Here we go again with another beautiful but not very talented, Prince clone.( I wouldn't use the word Protege').

I just watched her Jimmy Kimmel video.I'm guessing she had "zero" input on the direction of her music.

This is not 1984.Prince is 54.He can't even write a new hit for himself or maybe he's not trying to write hit's.Why didn't he pen a song like "Rasberry Beret" for her?

Either way, I feel sorry for this girl.Nobody in her age group is gonna take her serious as an artist.

The only reason people will show up to her concert is in hope that Prince might be there.

Without Prince, this girl would be singing in a casino cover band.

Am I just hatin? Well watch the video and tell me what YOU think.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...e=youtu.be

There's a poll going on, it doesn't bash her but it does point out her shortcomings and the medias refusal to address simple facts. Possibly because they are courting Prince in the process.

http://www.poshglam.com/opinion-poll-princes-latest-muse-andy-allo-protege-or-pygmalion-effect/

I think it would be one thing if was being promoted as "pop entertainer" like a Brittany or Rihanna, but Prince is trying to sell this idea that she's a guitar virtuosa almost. Also trying to manufacture an image isn't compatible with a "natural" more neo soul artist. Which she was, before he Princified the gal.

she seems like she is just a singer. I don't see where she's been held up as some new guitar hero ala Orianthi.

She accompanies herself on guitar, like a million other singer songwriters have done. But the focus is on her singing.

NDRU said:

thebanishedone said:

What would i ask Andy??? Maybe :Hey Andy do you know how to play d minor 7 chord? Or maybe i can ask her if Prince fucks her good .That are the only 2 things i would remember to ask her if i had the chance,but i have no desire but i bet you would die 4 a chance to talk with her ,i can see it by your urge to insult ppl just because they say she can't sing and can't play guitar

For someone who has "no desire" to talk to her, you've made a fuck load of effort to slag her off on here!

I think you really fancy her and wont admit it coz you think you're too cool

honer said:

NDRU said:

she seems like she is just a singer. I don't see where she's been held up as some new guitar hero ala Orianthi.

She accompanies herself on guitar, like a million other singer songwriters have done. But the focus is on her singing.

She was held up as a guitar player in the beginning. This has changed slightly in the meantime, but she is still. Why would anyone accompany a gutiar, if they can't properly play? I mean it distracts from focusing on her singing, no?

But I am glad you enjoy her album, wish I could too.

thebanishedone said:

NDRU said:

she seems like she is just a singer. I don't see where she's been held up as some new guitar hero ala Orianthi.

She accompanies herself on guitar, like a million other singer songwriters have done. But the focus is on her singing.

i understand,and i don't dispute that she is a song writer.But i think that she is not for a big stage.as somebody pointed earlier in this thread she is ok for some coffie shop acoustic stuff.Try to understand me Prince set a high standards early in his career.i bet that Prince was cutting pay checks when a band member fucks up a note,that was the reason his band was always tight.Now days you have Andy singing off key a whole damn song and Prince is ok with that.Just listen to a Kimmel performance.Andy was flat and offkey during whole song.It's ok to hit offkey note sometimes but when you sing a whole song off key now that is a problem.

Come on my friend, you know that Prince is offering to promote her album in lieu of needing to swallow Viagra pills. I know he is a herbalist, so he wouldn't take that kinda thing. So what else do you want Prince to do to make her high? She's in her early 20s, and he's 30 years older.

It's the only way!

All this of course has nothing to do with real music by real musicans, I think that was the tip of iceberg that annoyed me most. She's saying she's doing funk and real music by real musicans, makes me wonder how real musicians feel about her claims?!

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NDRU said:

OzlemUcucu said:

The point is people will support any shit that Prince puts out. Both RNR and Superconductor are as good as the poo in the toilet that you just flush away without even thinking, and that is what it is at the moment, so overall I agree with you, but you already know that.

Oh, come on!!!

Yep, very dull. I am so over the purple one at the moment. I don't even know what annoys me most, but I could go an and on.

Overall I think it's his I don't care what you all think attitude. He's been shutting down sites, sending C&R to his own fans, ripping off people at gigs i.e. bad sound due to sound checks at 60% at his concerts, promoting a protegee while saying real music by real musicians that I disagree with.

One day he'll come up with techno and he'll say real music. I mean it's getting ridiculous the way he makes people believe what he does is the best cause it has a Prince tag. The Prince of today is not the one that I used to think he is. He's changing and in a bad way, and it's not excuse cause he's over 50. Not excuse at all!

But he said he doesn't care and looks like he reached his equilibrium, and no I don't wanna be part at the moment of this!

thebanishedone said:

The issue is real music by real musicians . Bria sound like singer with range compared to Andy Allo. Britney Spears sounds like Taylor Dane compared to Andy .

not at all. Like I said- not an Andy "fan" but I had heard her first (?) album and it was a nice little record which I believe she did on her own. It's one thing not to like someone but to say the only worse guitar player is a rapper who can barely play and say that Bria sounded like Taylor Dane by comparison tells me you have a serious hard on against this girl. I don't care for what I have heard on this album, seems she is "trying" to be something she is not. But your criticism seems more like a presonal vendetta than just not caring for her as an artist. Or jealousy for her being close to Prince.

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Zannaloaf said:

thebanishedone said:

The issue is real music by real musicians . Bria sound like singer with range compared to Andy Allo. Britney Spears sounds like Taylor Dane compared to Andy .

not at all. Like I said- not an Andy "fan" but I had heard her first (?) album and it was a nice little record which I believe she did on her own. It's one thing not to like someone but to say the only worse guitar player is a rapper who can barely play and say that Bria sounded like Taylor Dane by comparison tells me you have a serious hard on against this girl. I don't care for what I have heard on this album, seems she is "trying" to be something she is not. But your criticism seems more like a presonal vendetta than just not caring for her as an artist. Or jealousy for her being close to Prince.

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Hammer meet head of nail!!!

OzlemUcucu said:

thebanishedone said:

NDRU said: i understand,and i don't dispute that she is a song writer.But i think that she is not for a big stage.as somebody pointed earlier in this thread she is ok for some coffie shop acoustic stuff.Try to understand me Prince set a high standards early in his career.i bet that Prince was cutting pay checks when a band member fucks up a note,that was the reason his band was always tight.Now days you have Andy singing off key a whole damn song and Prince is ok with that.Just listen to a Kimmel performance.Andy was flat and offkey during whole song.It's ok to hit offkey note sometimes but when you sing a whole song off key now that is a problem.

Come on my friend, you know that Prince is offering to promote her album in lieu of needing to swallow Viagra pills. I know he is a herbalist, so he wouldn't take that kinda thing. So what else do you want Prince to do to make her high? She's in her early 20s, and he's 30 years older.

It's the only way!

All this of course has nothing to do with real music by real musicans, I think that was the tip of iceberg that annoyed me most. She's saying she's doing funk and real music by real musicans, makes me wonder how real musicians feel about her claims?!

[Edited 11/28/12 6:31am]

So what?

Surely she is provided with all the ingredients to boost her career by Prince. And she is enjoying his generosity and making the best out of it.

What is wrong with that? Should she have declined and tell him she'd rather have an affair with a poor kid who can't help her with building up a life for her self?

And why so judgemental about Prince his side of the story? He might not be good at being a family man and therefore chooses to have affairs with beautiful ladies and enjoy making music with her. And in the meanwhile have fun with touring, producing and making music. And on top of that have a good time and sex with a beatiful girl.

Should he decline Andy and rather have kids and actually have to be (emotionally) present, even if it is not convenient for him, because that is what is demanded if you have a family and/or relationship? He rather is doing what he feels like and enjoy the gratitude of Andy. I don't understand what is wrong with that.

And they made an album which sells and some people like. Why should Prince stress himself and his entourage every day with fining people if somebody is not performing perfectly, while in the meantime, they can have a more relaxed and good time because they accept imperfection?

I prefer seeing artists being happy and having fun above seeing meagre, perfect and intensely stressed out imagos on a stage.

To me a real musician is somebody who enjoys making music and makes sure the audiance has a good time to.

If you can only enjoy things that are sheer perfect I hope you can find those perfect things now and then.

Zannaloaf said:

dJJ said:

OzlemUcucu said:

Come on my friend, you know that Prince is offering to promote her album in lieu of needing to swallow Viagra pills. I know he is a herbalist, so he wouldn't take that kinda thing. So what else do you want Prince to do to make her high? She's in her early 20s, and he's 30 years older.

It's the only way!

All this of course has nothing to do with real music by real musicans, I think that was the tip of iceberg that annoyed me most. She's saying she's doing funk and real music by real musicans, makes me wonder how real musicians feel about her claims?!

[Edited 11/28/12 6:31am]

So what?

Surely she is provided with all the ingredients to boost her career by Prince. And she is enjoying his generosity and making the best out of it.

What is wrong with that? Should she have declined and tell him she'd rather have an affair with a poor kid who can't help her with building up a life for her self?

And why so judgemental about Prince his side of the story? He might not be good at being a family man and therefore chooses to have affairs with beautiful ladies and enjoy making music with her. And in the meanwhile have fun with touring, producing and making music. And on top of that have a good time and sex with a beatiful girl.

Should he decline Andy and rather have kids and actually have to be (emotionally) present, even if it is not convenient for him, because that is what is demanded if you have a family and/or relationship? He rather is doing what he feels like and enjoy the gratitude of Andy. I don't understand what is wrong with that.

And they made an album which sells and some people like. Why should Prince stress himself and his entourage every day with fining people if somebody is not performing perfectly, while in the meantime, they can have a more relaxed and good time because they accept imperfection?

I prefer seeing artists being happy and having fun above seeing meagre, perfect and intensely stressed out imagos on a stage.

To me a real musician is somebody who enjoys making music and makes sure the audiance has a good time to.

If you can only enjoy things that are sheer perfect I hope you can find those perfect things now and then.

I think the problem isn't that he's an older dude, possibly helping a girl out just because she's pretty. He's not the first man in the entertainment industry to do that, nor will he be the last lol. I think the frustration is his constant narcissm when choosing these girls. They must be beautiful enough for me to have on my arm, but not talented enough that they outshine me. It's as if he deliberately chooses pretty women, with mediocre talent, they aren't bad - but they aren't Nneka or Janelle Monae size talent's either. If they do have genuine talent, they tend to run for the hills or eventually have a huge falling out ala Sheila E. Whatever happened to Delilah, she was his protege in May. Then she hightailed it and seems to be doing better on her own now.

I love Prince, but it's getting old - as is he. If he wants to date a gorgeous broad great, if he wants to mentor do that separately. The constant mixing of the 2 is starting to look sleazy, I don't want a musical legend to end up a wrinkly ole punchline like Hugh Heffner. I saw that dude dancing at a club in LA with his girlfriends. It was creepy as hell. It was like Jim Rose's Circus from the 90s! They were cordernered off dancing, people were watching and even the men were like "ew" . I guess the "club" girlfriends aren't the attractive centerfolds, they are more along the lines of trannies bordering on 80s porn stars.

Prince is heading down that road. PS Also don't manufacture a "natural" or "faux funky" artist. Just pick up a fashion model and do the Vanity thing again.

alexandernevamind said:

Here we go again with another beautiful but not very talented, Prince clone.( I wouldn't use the word Protege').

I just watched her Jimmy Kimmel video.I'm guessing she had "zero" input on the direction of her music.

This is not 1984.Prince is 54.He can't even write a new hit for himself or maybe he's not trying to write hit's.Why didn't he pen a song like "Rasberry Beret" for her?

Either way, I feel sorry for this girl.Nobody in her age group is gonna take her serious as an artist.

The only reason people will show up to her concert is in hope that Prince might be there.

Without Prince, this girl would be singing in a casino cover band.

Am I just hatin? Well watch the video and tell me what YOU think.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...e=youtu.be

Now just ask yourself: what if she comes here and reads this? What is it gonna do to her? What if she hurts, what if she feels bad or sad? Do you care? Would you like it if people would write such words on a public forum about you and your work, whatever it is? Would you like it if you ruined her day, made her cry maybe? Is that what makes you happy in your life, to make girls cry and hurt them?

That, and also, what's the whole point here? What if everyone agreed with you here? What do you think? That Andy Allo would retire because of this thread? That Prince would fire her because of this thread? Or just that every one here will think you're so brilliant because you said out loud what you said?

So what? What are you trying to do exactly? What are you trying to accomplish here?

Not only zero input on direction of her music, but she also had zero imput on direction how she wanted to dance/if she'd be having the guitar on stage tho it's not plugged in/the reasons why she chose those songs etc...etc...she's only paraphrasing Prince.

Hey Superconductor! LOL, now that's some fine cloning going on.

databank said:

alexandernevamind said:

Here we go again with another beautiful but not very talented, Prince clone.( I wouldn't use the word Protege').

I just watched her Jimmy Kimmel video.I'm guessing she had "zero" input on the direction of her music.

This is not 1984.Prince is 54.He can't even write a new hit for himself or maybe he's not trying to write hit's.Why didn't he pen a song like "Rasberry Beret" for her?

Either way, I feel sorry for this girl.Nobody in her age group is gonna take her serious as an artist.

The only reason people will show up to her concert is in hope that Prince might be there.

Without Prince, this girl would be singing in a casino cover band.

Am I just hatin? Well watch the video and tell me what YOU think.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...e=youtu.be

That performance was actually much better than I thought it would be. She showed a little bit of charisma. I thought the horns would totally swamp her, and they didn't it. I still don't think funk is the direction she shoud go. I much prefer with just an acoustic guitar, played by Prince or somebody else with skill & feel.

alexandernevamind said:

Fonkyman said:

Who said she was even pretty? She could do with getting a couple of burgers down her. If it were up to me I'd shove em down the back of her panties and kick her up the arse. Talent? She makes a mess of miming, let alone plugging her in.

She's not pretty to you, but you can't speak for everybody else. She's a pretty girl, but the skinny part that's what Prince likes including the lightskinned off-black types. Hell he's skinny his damn self. But this is what Prince chooses everytime, but remember this. This is only for a LIMITED time. And I don't mean just on Prince's part, as soon as Andy feels the time is right she'll move away from Prince and on the something/somebody else just like these ladies did.

Examples: Carmen Electra, Tamar (who was not on the romantic side nor pretty) and Bria Valente

ummmmmm sorry to sound really dumb but what is a 'skin flute'.................and um isnt the purple yoder a friend of dorothys?

I hope Andy decides to pursue a terrtiary education and get qualified in something so she has something to fall back on...

Where's Bria? She's soo pretty and has a lovely voice.

in a few months from now,Andy will be old news and Prince will simply move on to the next pretty young thing he finds the cycle keeps repeating itself,lol

SoulAlive said:

in a few months from now,Andy will be old news and Prince will simply move on to the next pretty young thing he finds the cycle keeps repeating itself,lol

Like I said how do you know Andy won't move on to the next one first and on to a young one to a man her age.