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Reply #30 posted 11/27/12 3:04pm

thebanishedone

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XxAxX said:



thebanishedone said:


If we exclude Carmen Electra who was a rapper it is safe to say that some of the worst "singers " in a Prince camp are Vanity and Andy Allo. So who is more awful? My Vote goes to Andy.Andy is so bad she makes your ears bleed.Her new song is a great groove but her vocals kill the song for me


andy allo has more talent in her little finger than can be found in every one of your posts here. and, get this: not only does she not know you exist, she hasn't spent a single second discussing you and your achievements. how does it feel to know that you will never, ever, even be noticed by a rising star like andy?



Yes Andy is semi popular in Prince circles and yes i'm unknown,but you are so wrong about talents in her fingers.i can school her on guitar be sure about that.Andy's talent is sucking Prince's you know what
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Reply #31 posted 11/27/12 3:05pm

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MadamGoodnight said:

At least Vanity was honest about her vocal capabilities. She said out of her own mouth that she didn't sing very well. This was an old interview on tv. She didn't take herself too seriously, and it was refreshing. She wasn't out perpetrating like she was some great singer when she clearly wasn't (unlike some other people).

* If ya can't sing, be honest about that shit! lol razz

I wish someone would give you a Christmas cake for such a sensible response. thumbs up!

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Reply #32 posted 11/27/12 3:10pm

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XxAxX said:



thebanishedone said:


If we exclude Carmen Electra who was a rapper it is safe to say that some of the worst "singers " in a Prince camp are Vanity and Andy Allo. So who is more awful? My Vote goes to Andy.Andy is so bad she makes your ears bleed.Her new song is a great groove but her vocals kill the song for me


andy allo has more talent in her little finger than can be found in every one of your posts here. and, get this: not only does she not know you exist, she hasn't spent a single second discussing you and your achievements. how does it feel to know that you will never, ever, even be noticed by a rising star like andy?



Andy is not a rising star.in a year from now you will not remember Andy. Maybe you are Andy ? You can check some of the music i made it's here on org artist if you want to hear real guitar playing.after you hear it please come back here to tell me about talent in fingers
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Reply #33 posted 11/27/12 4:21pm

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XxAxX said:

thebanishedone said:

If we exclude Carmen Electra who was a rapper it is safe to say that some of the worst "singers " in a Prince camp are Vanity and Andy Allo. So who is more awful? My Vote goes to Andy.Andy is so bad she makes your ears bleed.Her new song is a great groove but her vocals kill the song for me

andy allo has more talent in her little finger than can be found in every one of your posts here. and, get this: not only does she not know you exist, she hasn't spent a single second discussing you and your achievements. how does it feel to know that you will never, ever, even be noticed by a rising star like andy?

And back to the inanity.....

This recent outbreak of lunacy on this forum is astounding. And it's even worse than all of the garbage spewed in favor of that Valente lady, back when she was absurdly classified as a "rising star." So where is that "star" now?

And what exactly is all of that "talent" in Allo you (and the same others) are willing to insult this thread starter over? What? Being a horrid actress with an artificial singing voice that you think is real, and who you're only cheering for because Prince has been brainless enough to back her pretenses as some [inept] "musician?" I mean, since you've mentioned random appendages, I bet you can play guitar better with your feet than Allo can play with those clearly unskilled fingers you referred to.

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Reply #34 posted 11/27/12 4:29pm

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WaterInYourBath said:



XxAxX said:




thebanishedone said:


If we exclude Carmen Electra who was a rapper it is safe to say that some of the worst "singers " in a Prince camp are Vanity and Andy Allo. So who is more awful? My Vote goes to Andy.Andy is so bad she makes your ears bleed.Her new song is a great groove but her vocals kill the song for me


andy allo has more talent in her little finger than can be found in every one of your posts here. and, get this: not only does she not know you exist, she hasn't spent a single second discussing you and your achievements. how does it feel to know that you will never, ever, even be noticed by a rising star like andy?





And back to the inanity.....



This recent outbreak of lunacy on this forum is astounding. And it's even worse than all of the garbage spewed in favor of that Valente lady, back when she was absurdly classified as a "rising star." So where is that "star" now?



And what exactly is all of that "talent" in Allo you (and the same others) are willing to insult this thread starter over? What? Being a horrid actress with an artificial singing voice that you think is real, and who you're only cheering for because Prince has been brainless enough to back her pretenses as some [inept] "musician?" I mean, since you've mentioned random appendages, I bet you can play guitar better with your feet than Allo can play with those clearly unskilled fingers you referred to.


wow Waterinthebath you hit it in the spot.i couldn't have said it better . Really. And thank you very much for the support.i wish to thank all other orgers like iloveannie for not being affraid to speak the truth .
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Reply #35 posted 11/28/12 3:57am

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WaterInYourBath said:

XxAxX said:

andy allo has more talent in her little finger than can be found in every one of your posts here. and, get this: not only does she not know you exist, she hasn't spent a single second discussing you and your achievements. how does it feel to know that you will never, ever, even be noticed by a rising star like andy?

And back to the inanity.....

This recent outbreak of lunacy on this forum is astounding. And it's even worse than all of the garbage spewed in favor of that Valente lady, back when she was absurdly classified as a "rising star." So where is that "star" now?

And what exactly is all of that "talent" in Allo you (and the same others) are willing to insult this thread starter over? What? Being a horrid actress with an artificial singing voice that you think is real, and who you're only cheering for because Prince has been brainless enough to back her pretenses as some [inept] "musician?" I mean, since you've mentioned random appendages, I bet you can play guitar better with your feet than Allo can play with those clearly unskilled fingers you referred to.

oh no you don't. your attitude is not the same as mine. andy's album rocks. go to the official thread and check out the reaction to this album. the project has been well received.

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Reply #36 posted 11/28/12 6:45pm

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thebanishedone said:

WaterInYourBath said:

And back to the inanity.....

This recent outbreak of lunacy on this forum is astounding. And it's even worse than all of the garbage spewed in favor of that Valente lady, back when she was absurdly classified as a "rising star." So where is that "star" now?

And what exactly is all of that "talent" in Allo you (and the same others) are willing to insult this thread starter over? What? Being a horrid actress with an artificial singing voice that you think is real, and who you're only cheering for because Prince has been brainless enough to back her pretenses as some [inept] "musician?" I mean, since you've mentioned random appendages, I bet you can play guitar better with your feet than Allo can play with those clearly unskilled fingers you referred to.

wow Waterinthebath you hit it in the spot.i couldn't have said it better . Really. And thank you very much for the support.i wish to thank all other orgers like iloveannie for not being affraid to speak the truth .

I told you the truth. You didn't like it.

When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #37 posted 11/29/12 3:01pm

MadamGoodnight

WaterInYourBath said:

MadamGoodnight said:

At least Vanity was honest about her vocal capabilities. She said out of her own mouth that she didn't sing very well. This was an old interview on tv. She didn't take herself too seriously, and it was refreshing. She wasn't out perpetrating like she was some great singer when she clearly wasn't (unlike some other people).

* If ya can't sing, be honest about that shit! lol razz

I wish someone would give you a Christmas cake for such a sensible response. thumbs up!

highfive Thank you!

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Reply #38 posted 11/30/12 8:51am

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The more I listen to Allo's album the songs are growing on me, though I would say it's a far cry from being a 'Good' album or even one that I would recommend to anyone who isn't a PrinceHead. It's a HUGE cut above Bria and Tamar's albums.

All that being said though, the more I listen to the album the more I'm picking up that Allo's voice is almost entirely 'studio magic.' Her voice isn't her strong suit and neither is her guitar playing. She's got that husky voice, acousticy woman guitar palyer thing going on, which is cool, but is SOOOOO trendy right now. Girls who play and sing that way are a dime a dozen now adays.

In my mind, on a pure guitar playing and singing level, Andy's abilities are on par with someone who's a kick ass open mic nighter, but not much more.

But on the flip side, Bob Dylan sucks at playing guitar and he's got a terrible voice, but some people think of him as one of the greatest musicians ever, so there are a lot of things that factor in. I doubt Andy will end up with another Prince album though

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Reply #39 posted 11/30/12 3:55pm

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Wildboy said:

The more I listen to Allo's album the songs are growing on me, though I would say it's a far cry from being a 'Good' album or even one that I would recommend to anyone who isn't a PrinceHead. It's a HUGE cut above Bria and Tamar's albums.



All that being said though, the more I listen to the album the more I'm picking up that Allo's voice is almost entirely 'studio magic.' Her voice isn't her strong suit and neither is her guitar playing. She's got that husky voice, acousticy woman guitar palyer thing going on, which is cool, but is SOOOOO trendy right now. Girls who play and sing that way are a dime a dozen now adays.



In my mind, on a pure guitar playing and singing level, Andy's abilities are on par with someone who's a kick ass open mic nighter, but not much more.



But on the flip side, Bob Dylan sucks at playing guitar and he's got a terrible voice, but some people think of him as one of the greatest musicians ever, so there are a lot of things that factor in. I doubt Andy will end up with another Prince album though


i agree with everything you wrote except one thing.Dylan don't suck at playing guitar.he is a good rhythm guitar player and rudimentary soloist but he is far from bad.and i don't think ppl look at him as a musician.i think they see him as a poet
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Reply #40 posted 11/30/12 5:14pm

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XxAxX said:

WaterInYourBath said:

And back to the inanity.....

This recent outbreak of lunacy on this forum is astounding. And it's even worse than all of the garbage spewed in favor of that Valente lady, back when she was absurdly classified as a "rising star." So where is that "star" now?

And what exactly is all of that "talent" in Allo you (and the same others) are willing to insult this thread starter over? What? Being a horrid actress with an artificial singing voice that you think is real, and who you're only cheering for because Prince has been brainless enough to back her pretenses as some [inept] "musician?" I mean, since you've mentioned random appendages, I bet you can play guitar better with your feet than Allo can play with those clearly unskilled fingers you referred to.

oh no you don't. your attitude is not the same as mine. andy's album rocks. go to the official thread and check out the reaction to this album. the project has been well received.

You mean an official thread in the REAL world? Or on a Prince forum??

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Reply #41 posted 11/30/12 7:08pm

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XxAxX said:

oh no you don't. your attitude is not the same as mine. andy's album rocks. go to the official thread and check out the reaction to this album. the project has been well received.

You mean an official thread in the REAL world? Or on a Prince forum??

With Prince as executive producer, Andy Allo finally unleashed her second album, Superconductor, on Tuesday, with the album going straight to #1 on Amazon’s Soul and R&B charts in the US, UK and France within hours of its release.

http://www.drfunkenberry....conductor/

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Reply #42 posted 11/30/12 7:14pm

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XxAxX said:

Zannaloaf said:

You mean an official thread in the REAL world? Or on a Prince forum??

With Prince as executive producer, Andy Allo finally unleashed her second album, Superconductor, on Tuesday, with the album going straight to #1 on Amazon’s Soul and R&B charts in the US, UK and France within hours of its release.

http://www.drfunkenberry....conductor/

How dare you come up in this negativity fest with facts and numbers supporting Andy Allo! Nevermind that logical stuff. I heard Andy Allo eats bunny rabbits and kicks kids when their parents aren't looking! She's evil! lol

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Reply #43 posted 11/30/12 10:41pm

trixielabel76

WaterInYourBath said:

MadamGoodnight said:

At least Vanity was honest about her vocal capabilities. She said out of her own mouth that she didn't sing very well. This was an old interview on tv. She didn't take herself too seriously, and it was refreshing. She wasn't out perpetrating like she was some great singer when she clearly wasn't (unlike some other people).

* If ya can't sing, be honest about that shit! lol razz

I wish someone would give you a Christmas cake for such a sensible response. thumbs up!

I agree, technically Andy is a better singer then Vanity, but I found Vanity more honest, entertaining and fun. I think that's the problem with having her as this new protege, it's confusing. Prince is doing the usual routine, but presenting her as "funky" and she's got that beautiful natural fro going. It doesn't match, if you are presenting yourself as a funky, afro bobbing, guitar playing protege. You have to be able to play the guitar well and sing well. Otherwise you don't fit into the genre, the competition is to fierce. Now if she was coming at it like a Carmen Elektra, or Brittney or even Rihanna, I don't think people would be that up in arms about her low level of talent. That being said, all those women are stage entertainers, what they lack in vocal prowess they make up for in showmanship and dance ability. She doesn't have those kind of dance or entertainer skills.

I think they need to drop tag line "real music for real musicians." I did a poll:)

http://www.poshglam.com/o...on-effect/

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Reply #44 posted 12/01/12 8:03am

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I agree, technically Andy is a better singer then Vanity, but I found Vanity more honest, entertaining and fun. I think that's the problem with having her as this new protege, it's confusing. Prince is doing the usual routine, but presenting her as "funky" and she's got that beautiful natural fro going. It doesn't match, if you are presenting yourself as a funky, afro bobbing, guitar playing protege. You have to be able to play the guitar well and sing well. Otherwise you don't fit into the genre, the competition is to fierce. Now if she was coming at it like a Carmen Elektra, or Brittney or even Rihanna, I don't think people would be that up in arms about her low level of talent. That being said, all those women are stage entertainers, what they lack in vocal prowess they make up for in showmanship and dance ability. She doesn't have those kind of dance or entertainer skills.

^ 100% agree.

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Reply #45 posted 12/01/12 9:30am

KCOOLMUZIQ

trixielabel76 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

I wish someone would give you a Christmas cake for such a sensible response. thumbs up!

I agree, technically Andy is a better singer then Vanity, but I found Vanity more honest, entertaining and fun. I think that's the problem with having her as this new protege, it's confusing. Prince is doing the usual routine, but presenting her as "funky" and she's got that beautiful natural fro going. It doesn't match, if you are presenting yourself as a funky, afro bobbing, guitar playing protege. You have to be able to play the guitar well and sing well. Otherwise you don't fit into the genre, the competition is to fierce. Now if she was coming at it like a Carmen Elektra, or Brittney or even Rihanna, I don't think people would be that up in arms about her low level of talent. That being said, all those women are stage entertainers, what they lack in vocal prowess they make up for in showmanship and dance ability. She doesn't have those kind of dance or entertainer skills.

I think they need to drop tag line "real music for real musicians." I did a poll:)

http://www.poshglam.com/o...on-effect/

"Brittney or even Rihanna, they make up for in showmanship and dance ability."

eek

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #46 posted 12/01/12 10:44am

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trixielabel76 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

I wish someone would give you a Christmas cake for such a sensible response. thumbs up!

I agree, technically Andy is a better singer then Vanity, but I found Vanity more honest, entertaining and fun. I think that's the problem with having her as this new protege, it's confusing. Prince is doing the usual routine, but presenting her as "funky" and she's got that beautiful natural fro going. It doesn't match, if you are presenting yourself as a funky, afro bobbing, guitar playing protege. You have to be able to play the guitar well and sing well. Otherwise you don't fit into the genre, the competition is to fierce. Now if she was coming at it like a Carmen Elektra, or Brittney or even Rihanna, I don't think people would be that up in arms about her low level of talent. That being said, all those women are stage entertainers, what they lack in vocal prowess they make up for in showmanship and dance ability. She doesn't have those kind of dance or entertainer skills.

I think they need to drop tag line "real music for real musicians." I did a poll:)

http://www.poshglam.com/o...on-effect/

So basically what you're saying is that a lip syncher with a good choreographer beats a growing guitar player/songwriter who will sing live in your book? You're really reaching to prove your point but okay. disbelief

When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #47 posted 12/02/12 12:22am

trixielabel76

HonestMan13 said:

trixielabel76 said:

I agree, technically Andy is a better singer then Vanity, but I found Vanity more honest, entertaining and fun. I think that's the problem with having her as this new protege, it's confusing. Prince is doing the usual routine, but presenting her as "funky" and she's got that beautiful natural fro going. It doesn't match, if you are presenting yourself as a funky, afro bobbing, guitar playing protege. You have to be able to play the guitar well and sing well. Otherwise you don't fit into the genre, the competition is to fierce. Now if she was coming at it like a Carmen Elektra, or Brittney or even Rihanna, I don't think people would be that up in arms about her low level of talent. That being said, all those women are stage entertainers, what they lack in vocal prowess they make up for in showmanship and dance ability. She doesn't have those kind of dance or entertainer skills.

I think they need to drop tag line "real music for real musicians." I did a poll:)

http://www.poshglam.com/o...on-effect/

So basically what you're saying is that a lip syncher with a good choreographer beats a growing guitar player/songwriter who will sing live in your book? You're really reaching to prove your point but okay. disbelief

Actually in some instances the answer would be "yes" and let me explain why? It's more than "a lip syncher with a good choreographer" and " a growing guitar player/songwriter."

Watch Brittney before and after her breakdown, if all it took was a decent choreographer, then compare her performance with the nude colored boa constrictor to her last VMA debacle. That's not just the difference between good and bad choreography, or even working out vs not bothering. That's the difference between a dedicated young entertainer and unfortunately what Britteny became. Performance wise. Money wise, I don't think she's hurting to badly, but in her hey day Brittney did "the job" required for her genre. Pop.

If the singer/songwriter is at best equivalent in talent to most of the contestants of The Voice, Idol, etc. Why make such a fuss and treat her music as the "savior of funk" or a revolution? It simply a stretch, seriously I see no difference between Allo and The Voice's Erin Martin. The only difference, that Allo has a pleasant personality where Martin was rather arrogant.

If Allo is an emerging singer/songwriter she might get prevelance at the moment because Prince has taken a shine to her, but when that interest wains, there is nothing "outsanding" enough about her to compete with others in that genre. Part of me wants to scream "run girlie!" take a page out of Delilah's book, but she's 23 and I imagine Prince's fawning over you would be hard to ignore.

That's what I'm saying, whatever genre you wanna be in I'm not judging. I'm not going to compare Bob Dylan, to Nina Simone, to Whitney Houston to Nirvana. They are all very, very, different. But each one in their perspective genres are exceptional. Janet Jackson lip synches and dances, but if I had a choice between seeing her show or Taylor Swift (who I actually think is half decent at what she chooses to do), I'd op for Janet. A choice between Brittney lip synchingin her hey day, with her showmanship and spectacle, or Justin Beiber now, live, with his guitar and self written songs. I'd choose Brit in her heyday.

And just for the record although I personally don't enjoy Taylor Swift or Justin Beiber, you can't deny the level of talent that each has. Not just writing, but writing from extremely young ages, the ability to play multiple instruments, etc.

The thing with Allo she's been heralded the leader of a new funk revolution, but she's a novice on a guitar, and an adequate singer/songwriter, with an OK voice. Beyond the connection to Prince, there isn't anything exceptional about her - in my opinion. I think that's why people are growing tired of the promotional blitz.

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Reply #48 posted 12/02/12 7:22am

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trixielabel76 said:

HonestMan13 said:

So basically what you're saying is that a lip syncher with a good choreographer beats a growing guitar player/songwriter who will sing live in your book? You're really reaching to prove your point but okay. disbelief

Actually in some instances the answer would be "yes" and let me explain why? It's more than "a lip syncher with a good choreographer" and " a growing guitar player/songwriter."

Watch Brittney before and after her breakdown, if all it took was a decent choreographer, then compare her performance with the nude colored boa constrictor to her last VMA debacle. That's not just the difference between good and bad choreography, or even working out vs not bothering. That's the difference between a dedicated young entertainer and unfortunately what Britteny became. Performance wise. Money wise, I don't think she's hurting to badly, but in her hey day Brittney did "the job" required for her genre. Pop.

If the singer/songwriter is at best equivalent in talent to most of the contestants of The Voice, Idol, etc. Why make such a fuss and treat her music as the "savior of funk" or a revolution? It simply a stretch, seriously I see no difference between Allo and The Voice's Erin Martin. The only difference, that Allo has a pleasant personality where Martin was rather arrogant.

If Allo is an emerging singer/songwriter she might get prevelance at the moment because Prince has taken a shine to her, but when that interest wains, there is nothing "outsanding" enough about her to compete with others in that genre. Part of me wants to scream "run girlie!" take a page out of Delilah's book, but she's 23 and I imagine Prince's fawning over you would be hard to ignore.

That's what I'm saying, whatever genre you wanna be in I'm not judging. I'm not going to compare Bob Dylan, to Nina Simone, to Whitney Houston to Nirvana. They are all very, very, different. But each one in their perspective genres are exceptional. Janet Jackson lip synches and dances, but if I had a choice between seeing her show or Taylor Swift (who I actually think is half decent at what she chooses to do), I'd op for Janet. A choice between Brittney lip synchingin her hey day, with her showmanship and spectacle, or Justin Beiber now, live, with his guitar and self written songs. I'd choose Brit in her heyday.

And just for the record although I personally don't enjoy Taylor Swift or Justin Beiber, you can't deny the level of talent that each has. Not just writing, but writing from extremely young ages, the ability to play multiple instruments, etc.

The thing with Allo she's been heralded the leader of a new funk revolution, but she's a novice on a guitar, and an adequate singer/songwriter, with an OK voice. Beyond the connection to Prince, there isn't anything exceptional about her - in my opinion. I think that's why people are growing tired of the promotional blitz.

The only people heralding her to be such are fan quotes. Prince never referred to her as such or as a guitar virtuoso. Fans have hyped up the "hype" to turn around and tear it down. Prince has never referred to himself as a guitar virtuoso let alone another artist(protege or not). As for her voice/songwriting it works on the material she's pushing so there's nothing wrong with that. She's not trying to belt out power ballads or hit Mariah notes. I can understand people being tired of her blitz but that comes from visiting this site on a daily basis and then going on every Andy Allo thread for the past 6 months with either a prediction, a conclusion or a critique. This CD is totally avoidable for those who don't want to be bothered by it. It's not attached to a Prince CD like Bria's was. I haven't seen you on these AA threads before but do a quick google and you'll see the usual suspects on almost every thread claiming to be over it(yet again). I smacks of troll behavior on their part and invalidates some of the points you're trying to make. I will ask one thing from you though, have you actually listened to her CD yet from start to finish?

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Reply #49 posted 12/02/12 1:48pm

trixielabel76

HonestMan13 said:

trixielabel76 said:

Actually in some instances the answer would be "yes" and let me explain why? It's more than "a lip syncher with a good choreographer" and " a growing guitar player/songwriter."

Watch Brittney before and after her breakdown, if all it took was a decent choreographer, then compare her performance with the nude colored boa constrictor to her last VMA debacle. That's not just the difference between good and bad choreography, or even working out vs not bothering. That's the difference between a dedicated young entertainer and unfortunately what Britteny became. Performance wise. Money wise, I don't think she's hurting to badly, but in her hey day Brittney did "the job" required for her genre. Pop.

If the singer/songwriter is at best equivalent in talent to most of the contestants of The Voice, Idol, etc. Why make such a fuss and treat her music as the "savior of funk" or a revolution? It simply a stretch, seriously I see no difference between Allo and The Voice's Erin Martin. The only difference, that Allo has a pleasant personality where Martin was rather arrogant.

If Allo is an emerging singer/songwriter she might get prevelance at the moment because Prince has taken a shine to her, but when that interest wains, there is nothing "outsanding" enough about her to compete with others in that genre. Part of me wants to scream "run girlie!" take a page out of Delilah's book, but she's 23 and I imagine Prince's fawning over you would be hard to ignore.

That's what I'm saying, whatever genre you wanna be in I'm not judging. I'm not going to compare Bob Dylan, to Nina Simone, to Whitney Houston to Nirvana. They are all very, very, different. But each one in their perspective genres are exceptional. Janet Jackson lip synches and dances, but if I had a choice between seeing her show or Taylor Swift (who I actually think is half decent at what she chooses to do), I'd op for Janet. A choice between Brittney lip synchingin her hey day, with her showmanship and spectacle, or Justin Beiber now, live, with his guitar and self written songs. I'd choose Brit in her heyday.

And just for the record although I personally don't enjoy Taylor Swift or Justin Beiber, you can't deny the level of talent that each has. Not just writing, but writing from extremely young ages, the ability to play multiple instruments, etc.

The thing with Allo she's been heralded the leader of a new funk revolution, but she's a novice on a guitar, and an adequate singer/songwriter, with an OK voice. Beyond the connection to Prince, there isn't anything exceptional about her - in my opinion. I think that's why people are growing tired of the promotional blitz.

The only people heralding her to be such are fan quotes. Prince never referred to her as such or as a guitar virtuoso. Fans have hyped up the "hype" to turn around and tear it down. Prince has never referred to himself as a guitar virtuoso let alone another artist(protege or not). As for her voice/songwriting it works on the material she's pushing so there's nothing wrong with that. She's not trying to belt out power ballads or hit Mariah notes. I can understand people being tired of her blitz but that comes from visiting this site on a daily basis and then going on every Andy Allo thread for the past 6 months with either a prediction, a conclusion or a critique. This CD is totally avoidable for those who don't want to be bothered by it. It's not attached to a Prince CD like Bria's was. I haven't seen you on these AA threads before but do a quick google and you'll see the usual suspects on almost every thread claiming to be over it(yet again). I smacks of troll behavior on their part and invalidates some of the points you're trying to make. I will ask one thing from you though, have you actually listened to her CD yet from start to finish?

Thing is he is a guitar virtuoso, so that I would be almost ok if he did say that - even if it sounded narcisstic on his part lol. It would be the truth. I am knew to the site, only recently joined, so the Blitz I'm referring to is happening outside of this. The Blitz is what bought me here actually out of curiosity, also as I was doing some research for an articles. As aprt of that research I was given the CD to listen to, but truthfully I didn't listen to the whole thing from start to finish. Not because I thought it was awful, I just got a bit bored, that's just my personal preference. I will admit I also listened to a couple of tracks from "Unfresh" too and I have to say, thoroughly preferred them to Supercunductor. Now take into account, although "her sound" isn't my cup of tea - I'm not saying she's terrible. I just don't think she warrants the coverage and praise she's recieving at the moment. Not on here but through TV shows and media outlets, I think that is a direct result of her connection to Prince as opposed to an enormous level of guitar prowess or talent.

Unfortunately I have to disagree about your point about Prince, he has been hyping her here in the US and abroad for a while now. He is constantly heralding her as a new "funk phenom" or chanting on stage "Allo's gonna a be a star on her white guitar". There are actually numerous interviews and articles where he's been quoted as saying, "As soon as we felt Andy Allo's energetic presence on tour with r band," says

Prince, "we knew she'd be leading her own revolution soon!"

Also on chat shows in Europe he has repeatedly referred to her as a new "phenom" bringing back "real music with real musicians", or she's starting "a new revolution in music." That would indicate "hype" and at least a certain level of guiar expertise.

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trixielabel76 said:

HonestMan13 said:

The only people heralding her to be such are fan quotes. Prince never referred to her as such or as a guitar virtuoso. Fans have hyped up the "hype" to turn around and tear it down. Prince has never referred to himself as a guitar virtuoso let alone another artist(protege or not). As for her voice/songwriting it works on the material she's pushing so there's nothing wrong with that. She's not trying to belt out power ballads or hit Mariah notes. I can understand people being tired of her blitz but that comes from visiting this site on a daily basis and then going on every Andy Allo thread for the past 6 months with either a prediction, a conclusion or a critique. This CD is totally avoidable for those who don't want to be bothered by it. It's not attached to a Prince CD like Bria's was. I haven't seen you on these AA threads before but do a quick google and you'll see the usual suspects on almost every thread claiming to be over it(yet again). I smacks of troll behavior on their part and invalidates some of the points you're trying to make. I will ask one thing from you though, have you actually listened to her CD yet from start to finish?

Thing is he is a guitar virtuoso, so that I would be almost ok if he did say that - even if it sounded narcisstic on his part lol. It would be the truth. I am knew to the site, only recently joined, so the Blitz I'm referring to is happening outside of this. The Blitz is what bought me here actually out of curiosity, also as I was doing some research for an articles. As aprt of that research I was given the CD to listen to, but truthfully I didn't listen to the whole thing from start to finish. Not because I thought it was awful, I just got a bit bored, that's just my personal preference. I will admit I also listened to a couple of tracks from "Unfresh" too and I have to say, thoroughly preferred them to Supercunductor. Now take into account, although "her sound" isn't my cup of tea - I'm not saying she's terrible. I just don't think she warrants the coverage and praise she's recieving at the moment. Not on here but through TV shows and media outlets, I think that is a direct result of her connection to Prince as opposed to an enormous level of guitar prowess or talent.

Unfortunately I have to disagree about your point about Prince, he has been hyping her here in the US and abroad for a while now. He is constantly heralding her as a new "funk phenom" or chanting on stage "Allo's gonna a be a star on her white guitar". There are actually numerous interviews and articles where he's been quoted as saying, "As soon as we felt Andy Allo's energetic presence on tour with r band," says

Prince, "we knew she'd be leading her own revolution soon!"

Also on chat shows in Europe he has repeatedly referred to her as a new "phenom" bringing back "real music with real musicians", or she's starting "a new revolution in music." That would indicate "hype" and at least a certain level of guiar expertise.

You got that completely right Trixie. The high momentum of that funk evolution happened while he was touring, except that nobody really had any idea what he was talking about on shows, since nobody felt the presence of Allo on stage other than her drawing on clipboards.

Andy Allo is in a relationship with Prince, this is the sole reason why there is an album release. I heard from very reliable sources that they got married a while back. If you take all that into consideration you will get the bigger picture, and yes I agree with you, she's just a meaningless musical nobody out there dangling on his arm. It makes him happy the way it is, as you can see he's looking very happy nowadays, so all is good.

Prince I will always miss and love U.
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Reply #51 posted 12/02/12 7:53pm

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trixielabel76 said:

HonestMan13 said:

The only people heralding her to be such are fan quotes. Prince never referred to her as such or as a guitar virtuoso. Fans have hyped up the "hype" to turn around and tear it down. Prince has never referred to himself as a guitar virtuoso let alone another artist(protege or not). As for her voice/songwriting it works on the material she's pushing so there's nothing wrong with that. She's not trying to belt out power ballads or hit Mariah notes. I can understand people being tired of her blitz but that comes from visiting this site on a daily basis and then going on every Andy Allo thread for the past 6 months with either a prediction, a conclusion or a critique. This CD is totally avoidable for those who don't want to be bothered by it. It's not attached to a Prince CD like Bria's was. I haven't seen you on these AA threads before but do a quick google and you'll see the usual suspects on almost every thread claiming to be over it(yet again). I smacks of troll behavior on their part and invalidates some of the points you're trying to make. I will ask one thing from you though, have you actually listened to her CD yet from start to finish?

Thing is he is a guitar virtuoso, so that I would be almost ok if he did say that - even if it sounded narcisstic on his part lol. It would be the truth. I am knew to the site, only recently joined, so the Blitz I'm referring to is happening outside of this. The Blitz is what bought me here actually out of curiosity, also as I was doing some research for an articles. As aprt of that research I was given the CD to listen to, but truthfully I didn't listen to the whole thing from start to finish. Not because I thought it was awful, I just got a bit bored, that's just my personal preference. I will admit I also listened to a couple of tracks from "Unfresh" too and I have to say, thoroughly preferred them to Supercunductor. Now take into account, although "her sound" isn't my cup of tea - I'm not saying she's terrible. I just don't think she warrants the coverage and praise she's recieving at the moment. Not on here but through TV shows and media outlets, I think that is a direct result of her connection to Prince as opposed to an enormous level of guitar prowess or talent.

Unfortunately I have to disagree about your point about Prince, he has been hyping her here in the US and abroad for a while now. He is constantly heralding her as a new "funk phenom" or chanting on stage "Allo's gonna a be a star on her white guitar". There are actually numerous interviews and articles where he's been quoted as saying, "As soon as we felt Andy Allo's energetic presence on tour with r band," says

Prince, "we knew she'd be leading her own revolution soon!"

Also on chat shows in Europe he has repeatedly referred to her as a new "phenom" bringing back "real music with real musicians", or she's starting "a new revolution in music." That would indicate "hype" and at least a certain level of guiar expertise.

I'll take your word on the blitz of promotion. My experience has been less intense I guess. I will say this about the tools of promotion concerning Prince. When Lotusflow3r dropped Bria Valente did one interview and vanished. There was a lot of talk on this site about Prince not promoting her properly and her not doing any performances. All of this was in light of the negative criticisms her CD got on here. People wanted to see what she was about and if she could perform. Fast forward to 2012 and Andy Allo is getting press and has done interviews and a tv appearance/performance. Which whether you feel is justified or not it is the normal routine for any artist releasing music that they want to reach a wide audience. I understyand she's not your cup of tea but there really isn't any difference in the hype machine for any artist being promoted by someone. You aren't going to downplay the artist. You're going to say complimentary things and talk them up as much as possible. For once Prince's promotional machine seems to be functioning normally in regards to Andy Allo and his own single release, Rock & Roll Love Affair. Are doors being opened for her as a result of Prince, Yes. How different is that from Usher pushing Justin Beiber or Jay Z promoting Rihanna? It's expected.

When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #52 posted 12/03/12 9:21am

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How would Ingrid Chavez fit into this discussion (in consideration that she didn't actuially "sing")???

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Reply #53 posted 12/11/12 6:34pm

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PurpleJedi said:

How would Ingrid Chavez fit into this discussion (in consideration that she didn't actuially "sing")???

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and still I really REALLY like some of her songs, like Hippy Blood - I had that as background music at my wedding falloff

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