Hi y'all

I have the version credited to Girl Bros. (http://www.discogs.com/Gi...ase/415652) and I didn't know anything about the (similar) version credited to Wendy & Lisa (http://www.discogs.com/We...se/3374046). Discogs says this version was an "original, privately pressed 'Direct Sales Edition' of the Girl Bros. album".

Was it for sale on there internet site? Was it released BEFORE the Girl Bros. edition? Anyone here got this version back then? I'm very curious to know more about this version and which was the first released.

Oh, and IIUC (http://according2g.com/20...-g-review/), everything on Snapshot was released between 1994 and 1999? Any more details regarding the recording dates?

Thanks a lot

[Edited 11/2/12 5:26am]

"Rock Song" may have been recorded prior to 1994, because the liner notes state that it was recorded by Susan Rogers (she also recorded Fruit at the Bottom and Eroica, which was 1989-1990, so this song could come from that same time frame).

"Time" was recorded while they were working with Seal, which could have been anytime from 1991 to '94, I guess.

The other tracks are from the late 90s, circa Girl Bros.

duggalolly said:

"Rock Song" may have been recorded prior to 1994, because the liner notes state that it was recorded by Susan Rogers (she also recorded Fruit at the Bottom and Eroica, which was 1989-1990, so this song could come from that same time frame).

"Time" was recorded while they were working with Seal, which could have been anytime from 1991 to '94, I guess.

The other tracks are from the late 90s, circa Girl Bros.

I didn't realize the Seal II sessions went back as early as 1991 but obviously yeah, if the album is from 1994... Silly me

I didn't know that Rogers had recorded Fruit and Eroica: I thought she'd retired as soon as she'd stopped working with P. Good to know

Thanks a lot for the info duggalolly

Anything about that Girl Bros. thing?

While we at it I've allways wondered why Girl Bros. had been released as "Girl Bros.", and the Heroes OST as "Lisa Coleman and Wendy Melvoin". Everything before or since these 2 albums was "Wendy & Lisa". Did they feel the need to distance themseves from being that "Prince spin-off that failed at commercial success" at some point or was there any other reason? Did they ever explain that?

Hi there - I have both versions.

The CD was only orig available on there web-site - then it got released to stores.

Track listing is the same but the artwork is diff.

Plus all copies from website were signed!

And yes I believe they called themselves GirlBros for that CD as they were always being touted as Wendy & Lisa, from Prince & The revolution - they wanted to be judged on the record and not there history (i'm sure this is correct!)

But this was just for this CD.............

Hope this helps

databank said:

I didn't realize the Seal II sessions went back as early as 1991

Wendy, Lisa, and Susannah were also involved in the first Seal album from 1991, so I included that in the time frame. W&L are also credited in the third Seal album Human Being which was released in 1998, but I don't know if their parts were leftovers from an earlier time (I don't know when they stopped working with Trevor Horn, but I assumed they left after 1994 and certainly weren't still working with him in '98). The liner notes for "Time" only state that they were working with Seal at the time, so I'd place it somewhere in the early-to-mid '90s.

I didn't know that Rogers had recorded Fruit and Eroica: I thought she'd retired as soon as she'd stopped working with P. Good to know

After leaving Prince, Susan worked with Jesse Johnson on Every Shade Of Love and then with Wendy & Lisa on Fruit and Eroica (engineering & mixing) and also mixed a Candy Dulfer album in 1990. Apparently, a lot of Prince's associates were eager to work with her after she left Paisley Park. She went on to work with other artists (David Byrne, Barenaked Ladies) in the 1990s before pursuing an academic career.

Thanks a lot for the info duggalolly

No prob!

Anything about that Girl Bros. thing?

I didn't know there were different versions of the CD. The one I have was purchased in a bookstore in 2000. It has a picture of W&L's backside on the cover. I also have the digital download version they put out after White Flags came out. It has bonus tracks (demos) including a track or two that was previously only available on the "Friendly Fire" bootleg set.

While we at it I've allways wondered why Girl Bros. had been released as "Girl Bros.", and the Heroes OST as "Lisa Coleman and Wendy Melvoin". Everything before or since these 2 albums was "Wendy & Lisa". Did they feel the need to distance themseves from being that "Prince spin-off that failed at commercial success" at some point or was there any other reason? Did they ever explain that?

Yes, I think with Girl Bros. there was a sense of starting over, in the sense that it was an independently-released album with an "indy" sound. No Prince, no Trevor Horn, and no big record companies. It would have been interesting if they'd chosen to release it as an unpronouncable symbol. Sometimes, their TV/movie score music is released under their full names, possibly to differentiate it from the "pop" that might be associated with "Wendy and Lisa" -- Also, they're usually credited by their full names in the TV/movie credits... but the "Nurse Jackie" CD still credits them as Wendy & Lisa:

Lotsa cool info, thanks a lot to both of you

Mmmh... I may have read it somewhere back in the days but since I can't remember... WHY did Susan R. quit working for Prince if she kept being an engineer?

I don't know, but I assumed she was burnt out from 4+ years of non-stop working with him, maybe just wanted to do something different? She did leave around the time that he opened Paisley Park, so maybe she felt that was a good time to move on?

duggalolly said:

I don't know, but I assumed she was burnt out from 4+ years of non-stop working with him, maybe just wanted to do something different? She did leave around the time that he opened Paisley Park, so maybe she felt that was a good time to move on?

She eventually moved on from the record biz completely. She now teaches at Berklee College of Music.

http://www.berklee.edu/fa...san-rogers

Susan Rogers, Associate Professor

Music Production and Engineering

"When I was young, I wanted to make records. I started in the business in 1978 as an audio technician, and I was able to eventually work my way into engineering and production. I loved making records, but along the way I began to realize that I might also enjoy working as a scientist. To have a professional music career as an engineer and producer meant traveling all the time. Clients might want to work in NY or LA or Nashville or Miami or Texas or Europe, so often I would go on the road with them. It was a very hectic life."

"Record producing is a youth-oriented profession. Most producers are making records that are consumed by younger people. When I was in my mid-40s, I was making records for a college audience, mostly alternative rock, and I had finally reached a point where I was no longer listening to the records that I was making."

"In the late '90s I produced a hit record with Barenaked Ladies. I took my royalty check and quit the music business, and in 2000 enrolled as a freshman at the University of Minnesota. I went to McGill University in Montreal to do my graduate work in music perception and cognition. This branch of psychology explores musical behaviors from the psycho- and neurological perspective, in other words, the what, where, how, when, and why of human musical experience."

"Berklee hired me to teach engineering and production, but also to help implement a more music-centric science program in the Liberal Arts department. They encouraged me to design courses in music cognition and psychoacoustics."

"To be teaching engineering and production at Berklee is satisfying, because these young people are just starting what will probably be extraordinarily exciting careers. They have voracious appetites for popular music and strong desires to express themselves. I am eager to hear what this generation will do in the service of the music industry."

• B.Sc., University of Minnesota
• Ph.D., McGill University, experimental psychology
• Recordings as a mixer/engineer with Prince, David Byrne, Barenaked Ladies, Tricky, Paul Westerberg, Geggy Tah, and Michael Penn
• Research interests include auditory memory, music perception and cognition, and psychoacoustics

Hi there -

Except for a very recent re-re-release with extra digital bonus tracks, the two versions of Girl Bros. are identical. When it first came out in 1998, it was released under the Girl Bros. moniker - presumably to get a fresh start and break out of the "Wendy & Lisa" brand, if you will. This was a full on indie release (World Domination Records) and I am guessing they were trying to get a bit of distance given the new direction they were taking musically.

My guess is it became apparent that most of the folks that were buying were old school W&L fans anyway, and the re-released as W&L for subsequent printings and began the direct release model, along with the first version of their website, in I think 1999.

Ahh, the olden days.

Cheers -

Kat