no second single on the way.. no updates.. no tour, no new guitar player to replace jesse..

stuck with the name o7 and jesse is out of the picture..

nothing promising sadly ..

Yup, unless they are behind the scenes doing new music.

I'm listening to their album at the moment and I can't believe what they did with this album. Like they just dropped it and that was it. It's a fantastic album and deserved much more. There are enough singles on the album. They should have toured.

robertlove said:

I'm listening to their album at the moment and I can't believe what they did with this album. Like they just dropped it and that was it. It's a fantastic album and deserved much more. There are enough singles on the album. They should have toured.

I can't believe there is or was no tour and the fall out with Jesse Johnson is something I never saw coming. I am a HUGE The Time/O7 fan and 2 have 1 of the 7 bounce and all this fall out with 1 another is truly sad. So many groups have fallen off becuz of sillyness be it money, egos , "direction of the group" etc. I love this Condensate cd and DVD that was included was a bonus there is 2 much talent among all those guys 4 them 2 not promote this kick ass cd.

Ironically Morris Day and The Time will be at the OK.K.Klan....homa State Fairgrounds this Friday 21 Sept. I will Mos Def be there but I prefer The O7 members then have Jesse do some solo stuff within the show Morris as well. Just a dream but if Prince and the Revloution and The Time/O7 toured 2gether in a Battle of the Bands type of way that would be the Shizznit.

I Pledge Allegiance... 2 The Time!!

Morris and the boys are playing a show in NJ at the end of the month with George Clinton. So they're still doing their thing..just a little low key.

SPYZFAN1 said:

Morris and the boys are playing a show in NJ at the end of the month with George Clinton. So they're still doing their thing..just a little low key.

I think this thread is referring to the Original members, O7. but that concert with Morris Day and the Time and George Clinton sounds like a good show too.

sirnasstee said:

robertlove said:

I'm listening to their album at the moment and I can't believe what they did with this album. Like they just dropped it and that was it. It's a fantastic album and deserved much more. There are enough singles on the album. They should have toured.

I can't believe there is or was no tour and the fall out with Jesse Johnson is something I never saw coming. I am a HUGE The Time/O7 fan and 2 have 1 of the 7 bounce and all this fall out with 1 another is truly sad. So many groups have fallen off becuz of sillyness be it money, egos , "direction of the group" etc. I love this Condensate cd and DVD that was included was a bonus there is 2 much talent among all those guys 4 them 2 not promote this kick ass cd.

Ironically Morris Day and The Time will be at the OK.K.Klan....homa State Fairgrounds this Friday 21 Sept. I will Mos Def be there but I prefer The O7 members then have Jesse do some solo stuff within the show Morris as well. Just a dream but if Prince and the Revloution and The Time/O7 toured 2gether in a Battle of the Bands type of way that would be the Shizznit.

I Pledge Allegiance... 2 The Time!!

But @ least i got to experience their one show they had here in lA @ Club Nokia late last year. It was still magical. They still got it. Now Jesse is still on tour with D'angelo!

The way I see it....we got a fantastic album from them.A tour would have been nice,but maybe it's just not possible at this time.We just have to enjoy the music.Condensate is a superb album.A live performance lasts two hours,but you can enjoy the CD for the rest of your life.That's how I look at it

Well they're still tweeting as of 11min ago:

The Original 7ven ‏@theoriginal7ven

#HappyBirthday to @theoriginal7ven's Jerome Benton! Check out @twitter all day as we celebrate! #TheTime #SomebodyBringMeAMirror

robertlove said:

I'm listening to their album at the moment and I can't believe what they did with this album. Like they just dropped it and that was it. It's a fantastic album and deserved much more. There are enough singles on the album. They should have toured.

I saw there first show here in Los Angeles, CA and the boys were tight! You felt the love and respect among them....what went wrong? I really enjoyed the boys.....

Honestly while I love the Time. I think that unless they tour with Prince or some band of a higher R&B caliber band to bring out the best in them, it's pointless. Under a normal setting the Time (I refuse to say O7 or whatever) are just some friends jamming. With a challenge they become a force to be reckoned with.

DecaturStone said:

Honestly while I love the Time. I think that unless they tour with Prince or some band of a higher R&B caliber band to bring out the best in them, it's pointless. Under a normal setting the Time (I refuse to say O7 or whatever) are just some friends jamming. With a challenge they become a force to be reckoned with.

I actually just got this albuma week or so ago (VERY late to the party, i know). And aside from one or two of the tracks, I'm not overly fond of this album. Morris' solo work in the 80's was way better then this. IDK, just not my cup of tea maybe.

Were sales luke warm?

Wildboy said:

I actually just got this albuma week or so ago (VERY late to the party, i know). And aside from one or two of the tracks, I'm no

t overly fond of this album. Morris' solo work in the 80's was way better then this. IDK, just not my cup of tea maybe.

Were sales luke warm?

I am a very HUGE The Time/07 FAN looooove all their stuff 2gether and even some solo joints but as 4 the sales of the CD Condensate, I am sure it didn't even go Aluminum Foil much less Gold. 1 reason is the marketing, the other is most ppl once they get past a certain age don't get love from radio. The Time are talented but image and a youthful look unfortunately sell your product. I am old school 2 the full so I will always bump The Time.

Wildboy said:

Were sales luke warm?

I don't think many people know the album exists, it's on a small label. The name change doesn't help, as the average person is not going to look for "Original 7ven". Maybe they should have picked something with similar spelling like "The Tyme", although there is a doo wop group named "The Tymes".

Based on this interview, I would say it's over for The Original 7ven:

http://newsok.com/morris-day-operates-on-own-time/article/3711454

This is the relevant text:

Given that difficulty, “Condensate” did not find a commercial foothold, and within a few months, Day said the band members who had rejoined started to drift away from the project. First, Jesse Johnson announced via Facebook that he was leaving in late 2011, and then the Original 7ven could not even use that name anymore with only six of them left. So Day is back in his pre-Original 7ven mode with Moir and Jellybean Johnson.

“We got out of the gates to a really heavy start, but I get the sense that everybody's drifting back into their worlds. I think we've allowed the iron to really cool off,” he said, laughing. “I'm not feeling the momentum that I was initially.”

Day said he is proud of the Original 7ven album, despite the difficulties with making the public

aware of the project.

“At first, I was a little p---ed at Prince for not letting us use the name, but now I'm glad he didn't let us use it,” he said. “It made us search a little harder and it made the project a little more creative. The outcome of it is that we have some music we can all be proud of. And that is for sure.”

But with things back to the way they were, Day said he prefers playing with the current configuration of Morris Day and the Time. There are fewer egos with which to contend, he said.

“I do a lot less when I'm with the original members, because everybody's got a role that they play,” Day said. “When we do the Morris Day and the Time touring thing, there's a lot more weight on my shoulders. Which one would you experience more of me? It would be Morris Day and the Time as opposed to the Original 7ven.”

Read more: http://newsok.com/morris-day-operates-on-own-time/article/3711454#ixzz2801yjRI9

funksterr said:

Based on this interview, I would say it's over for The Original 7ven:

http://newsok.com/morris-day-operates-on-own-time/article/3711454

This is the relevant text:

Given that difficulty, “Condensate” did not find a commercial foothold, and within a few months, Day said the band members who had rejoined started to drift away from the project. First, Jesse Johnson announced via Facebook that he was leaving in late 2011, and then the Original 7ven could not even use that name anymore with only six of them left. So Day is back in his pre-Original 7ven mode with Moir and Jellybean Johnson.

“We got out of the gates to a really heavy start, but I get the sense that everybody's drifting back into their worlds. I think we've allowed the iron to really cool off,” he said, laughing. “I'm not feeling the momentum that I was initially.”

Day said he is proud of the Original 7ven album, despite the difficulties with making the public

aware of the project.

“At first, I was a little p---ed at Prince for not letting us use the name, but now I'm glad he didn't let us use it,” he said. “It made us search a little harder and it made the project a little more creative. The outcome of it is that we have some music we can all be proud of. And that is for sure.”

But with things back to the way they were, Day said he prefers playing with the current configuration of Morris Day and the Time. There are fewer egos with which to contend, he said.

“I do a lot less when I'm with the original members, because everybody's got a role that they play,” Day said. “When we do the Morris Day and the Time touring thing, there's a lot more weight on my shoulders. Which one would you experience more of me? It would be Morris Day and the Time as opposed to the Original 7ven.”

Read more: http://newsok.com/morris-day-operates-on-own-time/article/3711454#ixzz2801yjRI9

This is the final nail in the coffin I guess...pity that such a good album could be treated with such apathy by it's own creators.

I will cherish Condensate and wish the fellas well but I don't have any interest in supporting the same old, same old when I've seen what they are capable of.

If they're too old, tired and set in their ways to care then why should I? At this point I will concede that perhaps Jesse picked up on their attitude and that's what turned him off, although I still don't like the way he went about leaving the group.

WHAT A SHAME!!!

When this CD dropped I would have never thought in a million years this would happen. Funny how things turn out. Egos are a bitch!!!

what i dont understand is why even do the project or make a big deal about it if u not gonna support it?? maybe they didnt intend on touring they just wanted 2 do the cd. i see the hold up being jesse, jimmy and terry cuz morris,monte and jellybean still tour as the time

Here's how it should've played out after Condensate dropped.

Morris Day & The Time should've disbanded.

The O7 should've started booking gigs in the same venues MD & The Time were getting gigs at.

Jam & Lewis should've taken a step back from producing for a brief time to support Condensate.

More television appearances and probably 2 more videos to promote the CD and keep their new name fresh in peoples minds.

What happened was unfortunate for the fans above all because we've waited for this reunion for quite some time. I don't fault Jesse for leaving because he wanted to hit the road and start making a return on his investment in The O7. Also I think Morris wasn't ready to give up the cash cow he has with MD & The Time since he continued to book gigs well into 2012.

Well that's life!

HonestMan13 said:

More television appearances and probably 2 more videos to promote the CD and keep their new name fresh in peoples minds.

I don't think music videos would make much of a difference. As of right now, the Trendin' video has 120,768 views on Youtube. Here's counts from other veteran acts with fairly recent videos:

Van Halen Tattoo - 5,414,292

Van Halen She's The Woman - 844,760

The Cars Blue Tip - 438,772

The Cars Sad Song - 644,258

Glenn Frey Route 66 - 14,221

Joe Walsh Analog Man - 177,995

Bettye LaVette I'm Not The One - 11,680

Superheavy (Mick Jagger) Miracle Worker - 7,960,645

Lionel Richie & Shania Twain Endless Love - 2,159,475

Lionel Richie & Blake Shelton You Are - 198,069

Charlie Wilson You Are - 1,779,068

Ringo Starr Wings - 141,498

Paul McCartney My Valentine - 5,461,722

George Michael White Light - 2,346,195

Madonna Girl Gone Wild - 15,303,048

Madonna Give Me All Your Luvin' - 45,235,361

Weird Al Whatever You Like - 492,131

Weird Al Perform This Way - 12,842,174

Robert Plant & Alison Krauss Gone Gone Gone - 241,642

Beastie Boys Make Some Noise - 5,858,366

Beastie Boys & Santigold Don't Play No Game That I Can't Win - 558,343

Michael Jackson Hollywood Tonight - 22,568,704

fDeluxe Sanctified - 1,585

Gloria Estefan Wepa - 638,283

Duran Duran Girl Panic - 5,925,357

[Edited 10/9/12 21:46pm]

^^ unfortunately,80s funk bands don't have that same kind of enduring popularity that many of those pop artists (Madonna,Van Halen,The Cars,etc) still have.

I can't think of any other 80s funk bands who have enjoyed a big-selling album in recent years.Most of them don't even have record deals anymore.We should grateful that we even got an album from Morris and the guys.

cbarnes3121 said:

what i dont understand is why even do the project or make a big deal about it if u not gonna support it?? maybe they didnt intend on touring they just wanted 2 do the cd. i see the hold up being jesse, jimmy and terry cuz morris,monte and jellybean still tour as the time

A tour is always nice but for me,it's not always necessary.I'm just happy to have a new CD from these guys.A concert is a 2-hour experience,but I can listen to the CD for the rest of my life.

I'd be perfectly satisfied if they never toured,but got together every few years to make a new CD.I'd settle for that.

MickyDolenz said:

HonestMan13 said:

More television appearances and probably 2 more videos to promote the CD and keep their new name fresh in peoples minds.

I don't think music videos would make much of a difference. As of right now, the Trendin' video has 120,768 views on Youtube. Here's counts from other veteran acts with fairly recent videos:

Van Halen Tattoo - 5,414,292

Van Halen She's The Woman - 844,760

The Cars Blue Tip - 438,772

The Cars Sad Song - 644,258

Glenn Frey Route 66 - 14,221

Joe Walsh Analog Man - 177,995

Bettye LaVette I'm Not The One - 11,680

Superheavy (Mick Jagger) Miracle Worker - 7,960,645

Lionel Richie & Shania Twain Endless Love - 2,159,475

Lionel Richie & Blake Shelton You Are - 198,069

Charlie Wilson You Are - 1,779,068

Ringo Starr Wings - 141,498

Paul McCartney My Valentine - 5,461,722

George Michael White Light - 2,346,195

Madonna Girl Gone Wild - 15,303,048

Madonna Give Me All Your Luvin' - 45,235,361

Weird Al Whatever You Like - 492,131

Weird Al Perform This Way - 12,842,174

Robert Plant & Alison Krauss Gone Gone Gone - 241,642

Beastie Boys Make Some Noise - 5,858,366

Beastie Boys & Santigold Don't Play No Game That I Can't Win - 558,343

Michael Jackson Hollywood Tonight - 22,568,704

fDeluxe Sanctified - 1,585

Gloria Estefan Wepa - 638,283

Duran Duran Girl Panic - 5,925,357

[Edited 10/9/12 21:46pm]

Having videos does make a huge difference. People are so damn lazy nowadays, and artists have to work much harder to get attention towards their music. Many people are used to listening to he first 20 second of each song before they put it on a party playlist. Only time they listen to music is when they party drunk, or when they traveling with their ipod. Music videos is a very good marketing technique. Blending visual elements with music is a MUST! I have experienced that having videos does alot to gain interest towards an album. Many would never hear about an album if the video wasn't there.

Months before this album was released,there was a report that L.A. Reid was interested in signing the guys to the label that he's in charge of (I think it's Def Jam?).In retrospect,the guys probably should have went there.I bet we would have gotten a few singles and videos.

These are the singles that should have been released:

"Trendin'

"Faithful"

Modern R&B stations (which play alot of stuff by the likes of R.Kelly and Charlie Wilson) would have surely embraced those songs.The potential was there.

SoulAlive said:

^^ unfortunately,80s funk bands don't have that same kind of enduring popularity that many of those pop artists (Madonna,Van Halen,The Cars,etc) still have.

I can't think of any other 80s funk bands who have enjoyed a big-selling album in recent years.Most of them don't even have record deals anymore.We should grateful that we even got an album from Morris and the guys.

Seriously? After all of the whining they did about the name change to just drop the project that way was disrespectful to everyone who supported them. Yeah we got a CD of great music but to make the name change seem like such a hardship when they obviously had bigger issues brewing was a low brow tactic. They banked on the 'rivalry' between them and Prince and couldn't be bothered to see it through to prove who was better.

SoulAlive said:

cbarnes3121 said:

what i dont understand is why even do the project or make a big deal about it if u not gonna support it?? maybe they didnt intend on touring they just wanted 2 do the cd. i see the hold up being jesse, jimmy and terry cuz morris,monte and jellybean still tour as the time

A tour is always nice but for me,it's not always necessary.I'm just happy to have a new CD from these guys.A concert is a 2-hour experience,but I can listen to the CD for the rest of my life.

I'd be perfectly satisfied if they never toured,but got together every few years to make a new CD.I'd settle for that.

Part of what made the Time famous are their live shows so for many of us to settle just for a cd, as good as it may be, its still a little dissappointing.

Replica said:

Having videos does make a huge difference. People are so damn lazy nowadays, and artists have to work much harder to get attention towards their music. Many people are used to listening to he first 20 second of each song before they put it on a party playlist. Only time they listen to music is when they party drunk, or when they traveling with their ipod. Music videos is a very good marketing technique. Blending visual elements with music is a MUST! I have experienced that having videos does alot to gain interest towards an album. Many would never hear about an album if the video wasn't there.

Videos might have been important in the 1980's when they were shown on TV. It's like the radio, it's advertising the song, and also acts you might not have heard otherwise. But with watching music videos online, people mostly search for acts they like already or ones they don't to leave negative comments. The video views don't really equate to sales. It's been said that Lionel Richie has one of the biggest selling albums released this year. It wasn't because people watched his videos, it was because he went on the Home Shopping Network and appeared on country music programs. Van Halen hasn't gone platinum and they toured and did magazine interviews. If watching videos on Youtube really helped sales, then all of those newer acts with 100 million plus views would have sold that many albums or singles.