Nah, The Time don't need Prince at the moment....they've got enough talent between them to make some awesome music. But personally I would love to see them opening for Prince again!

It's time for them to get down to the business of promoting their CD properly with some shows and quit all this crap about 'it's hard for us all to get together in the same room'. Either y'all want to do it or y'all don't! Musically I agree that they don't need Prince but on the business side somebody needs to put their foot down already.

Still cant believe no news on any shows or anything from the O7

^ I know - strange

They really need to capitalise on the Condensate success now before the project gets buried.

'Morris Day and the Time' & 'The Original 7ven' are two different lineups.

MickyDolenz said:

'Morris Day and the Time' & 'The Original 7ven' are two different lineups.

Yeah I know. At least I'll get to see Morris Day and The Time in NY In July,

wonder505 said:

MickyDolenz said:

'Morris Day and the Time' & 'The Original 7ven' are two different lineups.

Yeah I know. At least I'll get to see Morris Day and The Time in NY In July,

A friend asked me about that show and I had to clarify the difference for her. She decided not to attend. It's a little disappointing to see the alternate lineup getting the gigs we all hoped the O7 would be playing. Still a good show though.

MickyDolenz said:

^^It's not that serious. You can easily skip over my posts if they bother you. I don't even comment in "loads of threads", most of my posts are threads I've started and they're just music and videos.

^ It was an honest correction, there is a BIG difference between the two lineups within the bands. I think you were just trying to be helpful, that's how I read your post!

wonder505 said:

MickyDolenz said:

'Morris Day and the Time' & 'The Original 7ven' are two different lineups.

Yeah I know. At least I'll get to see Morris Day and The Time in NY In July,

I have my tickets for that show as well.

At least we can hope for some guest appearances.

mysterious777 said:

HonestMan13 said:

HonestMan13 said:

mysterious777 said:

mysterious777 said:

Let's get it straight... Prince and Morris are "The Time" the chemistry is between the two of them!!! No disrespect to either band, they play what's on the record.

The chemistry WAS with Prince and Morris. Prince hasn't had it since 1984. "Corporate World" was bad. The "Graffiti Bridge" Time tracks were also bad. The "Pandemonium" ablum is a Jam and Lewis production. So is "Condensate". Both records are great. "Lolita" and "Prettyman" were meant for Morris Day. Thankfully Prince released his own versions, because I think those tracks would also have been bad. At this point I'd say Jam and Lewis has the chemistry with Morris and Prince has lost that part of his game.

mysterious777 said:

Let's get it straight... Prince and Morris are "The Time" the chemistry is between the two of them!!! No disrespect to either band, they play what's on the record.

The chemistry WAS with Prince and Morris. Prince hasn't had it since 1984. "Corporate World" was bad. The "Graffiti Bridge" Time tracks were also bad. The "Pandemonium" ablum is a Jam and Lewis production. So is "Condensate". Both records are great. "Lolita" and "Prettyman" were meant for Morris Day. Thankfully Prince released his own versions, because I think those tracks would also have been bad. At this point I'd say Jam and Lewis has the chemistry with Morris and Prince has lost that part of his game.

How do you lose something you've created? Someone else takes it and does it as well. Pretty simple. Jam and Lewis totally did that on the last record. Jerk Out and Chocolate were lame imo. As was pretty much that whole record considering all the talent involved (I liked Blondie and Skillet). The O7 Record has a few cuts I'd lose to make it more solid, but when it comes down top it well written, well produced and well played. THAT is how you lose something to someone else.

BklynDiamond said:

wonder505 said:

Yeah I know. At least I'll get to see Morris Day and The Time in NY In July,

I have my tickets for that show as well.

At least we can hope for some guest appearances.

I'll be there too. Might as well make the most of it and have a great time.

mysterious777 said:

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, What time is it? Time for Prince and Morris to put down they're differences And do another project together!!!

I dont want to see a Prince and Morris or Prince and the Time project. Time to move on and stop living in the past.

The Time showed on their last album Condensate that they don't need Prince so why would Morris bother getting back in the studio with Prince can't remember the last time Prince did anything great in the studio anyway, Prince might of wrote a lot of the first 3 albums but The Time was successful because Of Morris

mysterious777 said:

funksterr said:

mysterious777 said:

How can u loose something you've created. Prince still has it. He just moved on to something else like most creative people. The first three albums were the best, and some of the songs on Pandemonium were track that Prince did... Jerk Out and Chocolate.

Prince wrote those songs but he didn't produce the versions on Pandemonium. That's significant to some of us, because those songs were in the pocket in a way, Prince has never achieved since on other records (Graffiti Bridge, MPLSound for example). When "Jerk Out" came out, I thought Prince had rediscovered the magic, but as it turns out he didn't produce it and has since shown no signs of writing hit material with the classic minneapolis sound.

For some reason, and I don't know why this is, but Prince is not as good at true minneapolis sound music as Jam and Lewis are. Prince may have invented the sound, but he has not released any great songs with it since at least 1984. You could argue, Prince has moved on, but you'd have to overlook Prince's repeated attempts to recreate the sound that have mostly failed. Jam and Lewis have had dozens of hits with the sound since then. I don't mind anyone crediting Prince for his work with The Time, but let's be fair and credit The Time for what they have also accomplished for themselves. And more so Jimmy Jam, a gifted musician who's artistry is barely recognized when Prince fans talk about The Time.

funksterr said:

mysterious777 said:

funksterr said:

Prince wrote those songs but he didn't produce the versions on Pandemonium. That's significant to some of us, because those songs were in the pocket in a way, Prince has never achieved since on other records (Graffiti Bridge, MPLSound for example). When "Jerk Out" came out, I thought Prince had rediscovered the magic, but as it turns out he didn't produce it and has since shown no signs of writing hit material with the classic minneapolis sound.

For some reason, and I don't know why this is, but Prince is not as good at true minneapolis sound music as Jam and Lewis are. Prince may have invented the sound, but he has not released any great songs with it since at least 1984. You could argue, Prince has moved on, but you'd have to overlook Prince's repeated attempts to recreate the sound that have mostly failed. Jam and Lewis have had dozens of hits with the sound since then. I don't mind anyone crediting Prince for his work with The Time, but let's be fair and credit The Time for what they have also accomplished for themselves. And more so Jimmy Jam, a gifted musician who's artistry is barely recognized when Prince fans talk about The Time.

I agree with you regarding JimmyJam and Terris Lewis. They are genius' with the Minneapolis sound. They do an excellent job with the composition and arrangements even moreso than Prince.

I just think its so sad how this project fell by the waste side, and that we cannot blame Prince for that. Oh well.

wonder505 said:

I just think its so sad how this project fell by the waste side, and that we cannot blame Prince for that. Oh well.

It's unlikely Condensate would have done a lot of business anyway. They're over 50 and on a small label (although distributed by Warners). That would hinder radio play. The Cars released an album and it was ignored too. Maybe they could have gotten some attention if they did like Carlos Santana, Charlie Wilson, Lionel Richie, Tony Bennett, and other older acts and put some rappers or young singers on it. The Time was mainly successful with the 1980's R&B audience, and the audience today hasn't really grown up with funk music and bands. They were raised on rap and pop R&B.

MickyDolenz said:

wonder505 said:

I just think its so sad how this project fell by the waste side, and that we cannot blame Prince for that. Oh well.

It's unlikely Condensate would have done a lot of business anyway. They're over 50 and on a small label (although distributed by Warners). That would hinder radio play. The Cars released an album and it was ignored too. Maybe they could have gotten some attention if they did like Carlos Santana, Charlie Wilson, Lionel Richie, Tony Bennett, and other older acts and put some rappers or young singers on it. The Time was mainly successful with the 1980's R&B audience, and the audience today hasn't really grown up with funk music and bands. They were raised on rap and pop R&B.

You're forgetting one thing: Nostalgia.

There's a niche market out there full of people like me, who grew up in the 70's and 80's who crave for the days when music was good and will still go out and support these acts. They may not sell records that much anymore or play on the radio but their live act is what keeps them going. Morris Day has made a pretty good living with the Touring Band and I can only imagine if the O7 would have taken this project on the road. Personally I think JJ and TL just didn't have the time to take away from producing and Morris didn't want to steer away from the old stuff too much and then ther was Jesse. Who knows really.

wonder505 said:

You're forgetting one thing: Nostalgia.

There's a niche market out there full of people like me, who grew up in the 70's and 80's who crave for the days when music was good and will still go out and support these acts. They may not sell records that much anymore or play on the radio but their live act is what keeps them going. Morris Day has made a pretty good living with the Touring Band and I can only imagine if the O7 would have taken this project on the road. Personally I think JJ and TL just didn't have the time to take away from producing and Morris didn't want to steer away from the old stuff too much and then ther was Jesse. Who knows really.

That tends to work more with classic rock like The Police, Paul McCartney, Stones, or Van Halen. Kool & The Gang are opening for Van Halen, not the other way around. Still for the most part, the veteran rock acts are really successful with touring, less so with any new albums they release. Also, the other groups didn't change their names, even if they don't have the same members like Journey and The Temptations. How many people know who The Original 7ven are?