I agree Andy doesn't have the ridiculous over the top sex appeal of Vanity, but she definitely has the talent!

I feel like a hypersexualized protege just might not work anymore. Not without a classic like Nasty Girl, and Prince is not producing instant classics anymore. Vanity is pretty much a one hit wonder anyway. She was of a time, not necessarily a great contribution to popular music.

You have to admit, this Andy project is already better than The Fonky Baldheads & Good Question!

NDRU said:

I agree Andy doesn't have the ridiculous over the top sex appeal of Vanity, but she definitely has the talent!

I feel like a hypersexualized protege just might not work anymore. Not without a classic like Nasty Girl, and Prince is not producing instant classics anymore. Vanity is pretty much a one hit wonder anyway. She was of a time, not necessarily a great contribution to popular music.

You have to admit, this Andy project is already better than The Fonky Baldheads & Good Question!

I honestly have no idea who The Fonky Baldheads & Good Question is...

Andy's beautiful and has a good voice, but I'm not sure she's gonna get any hits like Vanity did

COME ON PRINCE! GIVE ME SOMETHANG!!!!

NDRU said:

I agree Andy doesn't have the ridiculous over the top sex appeal of Vanity, but she definitely has the talent!

I feel like a hypersexualized protege just might not work anymore. Not without a classic like Nasty Girl, and Prince is not producing instant classics anymore. Vanity is pretty much a one hit wonder anyway. She was of a time, not necessarily a great contribution to popular music.

You have to admit, this Andy project is already better than The Fonky Baldheads & Good Question!

i don't know about that ..cause fonky like a baldhead is just that FUNKY!

i haven't heard any funk in andy yet

good question got video play on tbs's night tracks at least ..i don't see andy getting any major exposure

L4OATheOriginal said:

NDRU said:

I agree Andy doesn't have the ridiculous over the top sex appeal of Vanity, but she definitely has the talent!

I feel like a hypersexualized protege just might not work anymore. Not without a classic like Nasty Girl, and Prince is not producing instant classics anymore. Vanity is pretty much a one hit wonder anyway. She was of a time, not necessarily a great contribution to popular music.

You have to admit, this Andy project is already better than The Fonky Baldheads & Good Question!

i don't know about that ..cause fonky like a baldhead is just that FUNKY!

i haven't heard any funk in andy yet

good question got video play on tbs's night tracks at least ..i don't see andy getting any major exposure

People Pleaser sounds pretty funky to me

I am not sure about Andy getting exposure either, but not because she sounds bad. More because Prince has no real mainstream connection to avenues for new music anymore

NDRU said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

i don't know about that ..cause fonky like a baldhead is just that FUNKY!

i haven't heard any funk in andy yet

good question got video play on tbs's night tracks at least ..i don't see andy getting any major exposure

People Pleaser sounds pretty funky to me

I am not sure about Andy getting exposure either, but not because she sounds bad. More because Prince has no real mainstream connection to avenues for new music anymore

TRUTH

NDRU said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

i don't know about that ..cause fonky like a baldhead is just that FUNKY!

i haven't heard any funk in andy yet

good question got video play on tbs's night tracks at least ..i don't see andy getting any major exposure

People Pleaser sounds pretty funky to me

I am not sure about Andy getting exposure either, but not because she sounds bad. More because Prince has no real mainstream connection to avenues for new music anymore

People Pleaser is funky because Prince made it sound funky. It wasn't funky in it's original version. That is what I keep saying. She is nowhere close to funky, but she is forced to be a funky singer, and that is why she is not getting the success Prince was hoping for her.

I would be interested to know what Lianne La Havas's role will be in this "game".

NDRU said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

i don't know about that ..cause fonky like a baldhead is just that FUNKY!

i haven't heard any funk in andy yet

good question got video play on tbs's night tracks at least ..i don't see andy getting any major exposure

People Pleaser sounds pretty funky to me

I am not sure about Andy getting exposure either, but not because she sounds bad. More because Prince has no real mainstream connection to avenues for new music anymore

That is a smart statement. But he will find a new way like he always does.

MJMia said:

Vendetta1 said:

Stop speaking logic. There's no room for that on this thread.

I am sorry to say but is no logic in what HonestMan13 is saying. What is the basis of you saying that everyone here who is complaining about Andy Allo had bought most protege projects without hearing a single note? Do you know this for a fact or are you just assuming hoping this is the truth?

I don't think that people would pay money to buy and NOT listen to something they don't like. The Lotusflow3r project was a different issue.

With the exception of Vanity 6, The Time & Sheila E. which of the protege acts got major airplay and video rotation when their records dropped? Almost none of them. The Family came the closest with 'Screams Of Passion'. Unless you bought the music you weren't going to hear it anywhere else. There were no downloads and snippets. You either bought it or didn't. How many protege albums did you buy off the Prince association alone? Madhouse is the perfect example we all copped it for the Prince association and had no idea who was in it or what it was all about until we dropped the needle on the record.

HonestMan13 said:

MJMia said:

I am sorry to say but is no logic in what HonestMan13 is saying. What is the basis of you saying that everyone here who is complaining about Andy Allo had bought most protege projects without hearing a single note? Do you know this for a fact or are you just assuming hoping this is the truth?

I don't think that people would pay money to buy and NOT listen to something they don't like. The Lotusflow3r project was a different issue.

With the exception of Vanity 6, The Time & Sheila E. which of the protege acts got major airplay and video rotation when their records dropped? Almost none of them. The Family came the closest with 'Screams Of Passion'. Unless you bought the music you weren't going to hear it anywhere else. There were no downloads and snippets. You either bought it or didn't. How many protege albums did you buy off the Prince association alone? Madhouse is the perfect example we all copped it for the Prince association and had no idea who was in it or what it was all about until we dropped the needle on the record.

only speaking for myself but all i needed to see was that Paisley logo on the back and i bought many of protege's without hearing a single song

HonestMan13 said:

MJMia said:

I am sorry to say but is no logic in what HonestMan13 is saying. What is the basis of you saying that everyone here who is complaining about Andy Allo had bought most protege projects without hearing a single note? Do you know this for a fact or are you just assuming hoping this is the truth?

I don't think that people would pay money to buy and NOT listen to something they don't like. The Lotusflow3r project was a different issue.

With the exception of Vanity 6, The Time & Sheila E. which of the protege acts got major airplay and video rotation when their records dropped? Almost none of them. The Family came the closest with 'Screams Of Passion'. Unless you bought the music you weren't going to hear it anywhere else. There were no downloads and snippets. You either bought it or didn't. How many protege albums did you buy off the Prince association alone? Madhouse is the perfect example we all copped it for the Prince association and had no idea who was in it or what it was all about until we dropped the needle on the record.

6 got radio play here in NYC

L4OATheOriginal said:

HonestMan13 said:

With the exception of Vanity 6, The Time & Sheila E. which of the protege acts got major airplay and video rotation when their records dropped? Almost none of them. The Family came the closest with 'Screams Of Passion'. Unless you bought the music you weren't going to hear it anywhere else. There were no downloads and snippets. You either bought it or didn't. How many protege albums did you buy off the Prince association alone? Madhouse is the perfect example we all copped it for the Prince association and had no idea who was in it or what it was all about until we dropped the needle on the record.

6 got radio play here in NYC

How much? Was it in heavy rotation where you would eventually hear it or was it played sparsely and you had to try to catch it? Now that we have the internet you can listen to pretty much anything without buying it and if you like it then either buy it or illegally download it. That wasn't an option in Paisley Park's heyday. At least with Andy Allo and even Bria Valente you can check it out and decide for yourself if it's worth your money. With the older proteges you more or less had to buy it to then decide if it was a worthwhile effort or a waste of time.

banks said:

HonestMan13 said:

With the exception of Vanity 6, The Time & Sheila E. which of the protege acts got major airplay and video rotation when their records dropped? Almost none of them. The Family came the closest with 'Screams Of Passion'. Unless you bought the music you weren't going to hear it anywhere else. There were no downloads and snippets. You either bought it or didn't. How many protege albums did you buy off the Prince association alone? Madhouse is the perfect example we all copped it for the Prince association and had no idea who was in it or what it was all about until we dropped the needle on the record.

only speaking for myself but all i needed to see was that Paisley logo on the back and i bought many of protege's without hearing a single song

I believe most of the hardcore fanbase acted in a similar fashion. Casual fans that I know didn't even know Carmen Electra had a CD before doing Playboy.

banks said:

HonestMan13 said:

With the exception of Vanity 6, The Time & Sheila E. which of the protege acts got major airplay and video rotation when their records dropped? Almost none of them. The Family came the closest with 'Screams Of Passion'. Unless you bought the music you weren't going to hear it anywhere else. There were no downloads and snippets. You either bought it or didn't. How many protege albums did you buy off the Prince association alone? Madhouse is the perfect example we all copped it for the Prince association and had no idea who was in it or what it was all about until we dropped the needle on the record.

only speaking for myself but all i needed to see was that Paisley logo on the back and i bought many of protege's without hearing a single song

[Edited 3/24/12 20:14pm]

The problem isn't Andy at all; I think the publicity stunt stuff that Prince has her pulling on FB is the issue. I think he means well but it's backfiring and alienating the fanbase from her, and she's just gotten caught in the crossfire.

I said this before, but it's similar to what he did with Bria Valente, by comparing her to Sade. He set her up to fail right then.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

[Edited 3/24/12 20:14pm]

Okay so I'm assuming that this is the Andy that is the subject of this thread? Because I don't think I've seen a pic of her before.

Dren5 said:

The problem isn't Andy at all; I think the publicity stunt stuff that Prince has her pulling on FB is the issue. I think he means well but it's backfiring and alienating the fanbase from her, and she's just gotten caught in the crossfire.

I said this before, but it's similar to what he did with Bria Valente, by comparing her to Sade. He set her up to fail right then.

Ya, he's using them women all the time, he's the real PIMP, Mr. Goodnight and I'll slap ya ass twice.

Dren5 said:

The problem isn't Andy at all; I think the publicity stunt stuff that Prince has her pulling on FB is the issue. I think he means well but it's backfiring and alienating the fanbase from her, and she's just gotten caught in the crossfire.

I said this before, but it's similar to what he did with Bria Valente, by comparing her to Sade. He set her up to fail right then.

Urgh I remember when he was doing this and I would cringe every time he would say that awful mess.

missfee said:

Dren5 said:

The problem isn't Andy at all; I think the publicity stunt stuff that Prince has her pulling on FB is the issue. I think he means well but it's backfiring and alienating the fanbase from her, and she's just gotten caught in the crossfire.

I said this before, but it's similar to what he did with Bria Valente, by comparing her to Sade. He set her up to fail right then.

Urgh I remember when he was doing this and I would cringe every time he would say that awful mess.

To be fair, I don't even think Prince is behind all that fb PR bullocks. I think these girls get overconfident, and then fall deep once they realise things aren't easy with Mr. Goodnight. I mean it's his ass that we want, not some wanna be fake singers.

OzlemUcucu said:

missfee said:

Urgh I remember when he was doing this and I would cringe every time he would say that awful mess.

To be fair, I don't even think Prince is behind all that fb PR bullocks. I think these girls get overconfident, and then fall deep once they realise things aren't easy with Mr. Goodnight. I mean it's his ass that we want, not some wanna be fake singers.

possibly another theory can be said up 4 debate. it can be argued that both rosie and shelby can sing yet prince never got behind them fully 2 do a solo record, rosie's concrete jungle album was put on the shelf at paisley. but here he is thrusting andy in our faces and not many on here dig the vibe.

as 4 the fb thing, i belive prince is behind some of it and that includes the comments on funkenberry's page.

L4OATheOriginal said:

OzlemUcucu said:

To be fair, I don't even think Prince is behind all that fb PR bullocks. I think these girls get overconfident, and then fall deep once they realise things aren't easy with Mr. Goodnight. I mean it's his ass that we want, not some wanna be fake singers.

possibly another theory can be said up 4 debate. it can be argued that both rosie and shelby can sing yet prince never got behind them fully 2 do a solo record, rosie's concrete jungle album was put on the shelf at paisley. but here he is thrusting andy in our faces and not many on here dig the vibe.

as 4 the fb thing, i belive prince is behind some of it and that includes the comments on funkenberry's page.

The comments are more likely done by Andy herself. I really don't think Prince gives a shit about anything. The whole album release and everything for protegeses, I don't think they mean anything for him. What is he gaining or loosing? Nothing! As someone else said they come and go...nobody gives a shit about fake ass singers in his band.

So far we know what he/she got! ... and I know I keep repeating this, but it's the only logical explaination for me (the reports of them in the hotel is a proof), except of course he's gay, and wants to use her as a cover up.

Edit: I know I was amongst the first here and my opinion about Andy, but it is not hate, I just think she is not ripe for Prince musically. She's gotta grow, and develop her own style. She is not funky. Period!

[Edited 3/25/12 17:56pm]

L4OATheOriginal said:

OzlemUcucu said:

To be fair, I don't even think Prince is behind all that fb PR bullocks. I think these girls get overconfident, and then fall deep once they realise things aren't easy with Mr. Goodnight. I mean it's his ass that we want, not some wanna be fake singers.

possibly another theory can be said up 4 debate. it can be argued that both rosie and shelby can sing yet prince never got behind them fully 2 do a solo record, rosie's concrete jungle album was put on the shelf at paisley. but here he is thrusting andy in our faces and not many on here dig the vibe.

as 4 the fb thing, i belive prince is behind some of it and that includes the comments on funkenberry's page.

I think being fully featured on a Prince album & tour is way more promotion any new artist could ever want. Rosie sung a duet with Prince on the top ten hit "Diamonds & Pearls". She would have never have had a top 10 hit by herself on her album. Plus he used her on another duet "Nothing Compares 2 U". Shelby did even better & got a full song by herself on his album "Planet earth" "Chelsea Rodgers"....They will never do better than that on their own. Its up to them to take it further like Sheila E has.. LEAVE PRINCE ALONE. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING..

OzlemUcucu said:

missfee said:

Urgh I remember when he was doing this and I would cringe every time he would say that awful mess.

To be fair, I don't even think Prince is behind all that fb PR bullocks. I think these girls get overconfident, and then fall deep once they realise things aren't easy with Mr. Goodnight. I mean it's his ass that we want, not some wanna be fake singers.

You hit the nail on the head with this statement. I don't get the whole FB/Twitter mess, but hey that's why I don't have any sympathy for any of these woman after they don't make it to the big leagues and none for Prince either when it comes to his protege's not making it.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

possibly another theory can be said up 4 debate. it can be argued that both rosie and shelby can sing yet prince never got behind them fully 2 do a solo record, rosie's concrete jungle album was put on the shelf at paisley. but here he is thrusting andy in our faces and not many on here dig the vibe.

as 4 the fb thing, i belive prince is behind some of it and that includes the comments on funkenberry's page.

I think being fully featured on a Prince album & tour is way more promotion any new artist could ever want. Rosie sung a duet with Prince on the top ten hit "Diamonds & Pearls". She would have never have had a top 10 hit by herself on her album. Plus he used her on another duet "Nothing Compares 2 U". Shelby did even better & got a full song by herself on his album "Planet earth" "Chelsea Rodgers"....They will never do better than that on their own. Its up to them to take it further like Sheila E has.. LEAVE PRINCE ALONE. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING..

Exactly, I think he would love to have another Sheila E success story. Just like he stayed true to who he was/is musically, these woman needed/need to do the same. But either way you look at it, I know who Tamar, Andy, Vanity, Sheila E, Wendy/Lisa, Shelby J, Liv, Cat, Rosie, Sweet Mayte etc., etc. because of Prince. I don't think he wants to be known as the Prince of Protege Failures

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

possibly another theory can be said up 4 debate. it can be argued that both rosie and shelby can sing yet prince never got behind them fully 2 do a solo record, rosie's concrete jungle album was put on the shelf at paisley. but here he is thrusting andy in our faces and not many on here dig the vibe.

as 4 the fb thing, i belive prince is behind some of it and that includes the comments on funkenberry's page.

I think being fully featured on a Prince album & tour is way more promotion any new artist could ever want. Rosie sung a duet with Prince on the top ten hit "Diamonds & Pearls". She would have never have had a top 10 hit by herself on her album. Plus he used her on another duet "Nothing Compares 2 U". Shelby did even better & got a full song by herself on his album "Planet earth" "Chelsea Rodgers"....They will never do better than that on their own. Its up to them to take it further like Sheila E has.. LEAVE PRINCE ALONE. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING..

can u do a youtube video now about LEAVE PRINCE ALONE? u'll rank right up there with the britney dude

what u just said just spells doom 4 andy. prince has backed his protege's previously and made it either private or had the media guessing who was really behind it b4 he came out from the curtain. andy hasn't done that and become someone who the general public knows about 2 become successful yet

The internet has turned music fans into lazy spoiled uber critics! We used to have to buy the album and actually listen to it to find out if we liked it. Now a 15 second snippet(or 2) on your FB page is all it takes for music fans to decide if you're hot or not! Oh the humanity of having to sit through an entire song before forming an opinion on it!

HonestMan13 said:

The internet has turned music fans into lazy spoiled uber critics! We used to have to buy the album and actually listen to it to find out if we liked it. Now a 15 second snippet(or 2) on your FB page is all it takes for music fans to decide if you're hot or not! Oh the humanity of having to sit through an entire song before forming an opinion on it!

umm u have it semi right..back then u actually had singles released 2 stores and radio play. that game is over due 2 some of what u said but also because there isn't video play on tv anymore unless u have supreme cable cause mtv, vh1 and bet aren't showcasing music as much if any.

L4OATheOriginal said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I think being fully featured on a Prince album & tour is way more promotion any new artist could ever want. Rosie sung a duet with Prince on the top ten hit "Diamonds & Pearls". She would have never have had a top 10 hit by herself on her album. Plus he used her on another duet "Nothing Compares 2 U". Shelby did even better & got a full song by herself on his album "Planet earth" "Chelsea Rodgers"....They will never do better than that on their own. Its up to them to take it further like Sheila E has.. LEAVE PRINCE ALONE. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING..

can u do a youtube video now about LEAVE PRINCE ALONE? u'll rank right up there with the britney dude

what u just said just spells doom 4 andy. prince has backed his protege's previously and made it either private or had the media guessing who was really behind it b4 he came out from the curtain. andy hasn't done that and become someone who the general public knows about 2 become successful yet

HonestMan13 said:

The internet has turned music fans into lazy spoiled uber critics! We used to have to buy the album and actually listen to it to find out if we liked it. Now a 15 second snippet(or 2) on your FB page is all it takes for music fans to decide if you're hot or not! Oh the humanity of having to sit through an entire song before forming an opinion on it!

Not only this but the internet has turned people into bullies that would not have the balls to say any of this crap to a person's face.

Can you imagine being on the end of having all kinds of opinions formed about you from complete strangers who have no idea who you're fucking or not fucking?

It is unfortunate that the internet makes some forget that it is a another human being who is on the receiving end of these vitrioilic statements.

HonestMan13 said:

The internet has turned music fans into lazy spoiled uber critics! We used to have to buy the album and actually listen to it to find out if we liked it. Now a 15 second snippet(or 2) on your FB page is all it takes for music fans to decide if you're hot or not! Oh the humanity of having to sit through an entire song before forming an opinion on it!

This is not about the snipped. I don't know if U saw her live, how long U been a fan for, or how many times U have seen Prince live, so that you can compare, and how old you are. I think all these things effect the general output of hers and whether you like her musical contribution in the band or not.

She has given more than 15 seconds of snippts 4 people to decide if they like her or not. Nobody is denying the fact that she can sing or dance or paint...she just isn't up par on the league of Prince and NPG. She's very young and not talented enough, not to mention she's not born to be doing funk music. There are people out there her age with more talent and funk genes.

We been trying to figure out why she is given the chance to work with Prince considering alll those things explained above. So far conclusions are a) Prince thinks she has the greatest talent on earth or b) He wants to fuck her

And it's up to everyone which one you want to pick a or b?! Depending on which you pick, will explain why you may like her contribution to the NPG.

Some of you folks were saying that they are not certain if b) is the likelihood, but I wanna know how much more proof you need. It's been reported twice about it now, and this is a grown ass man we are talking about.

If you are not certain of b), then your assumptions of a) is also void, cause we don't know what he thinks!

[Edited 3/25/12 19:31pm]