I just posed a question on my page I want you guys to answer for me please... (I'll explain why later, okay?)

http://facebook.com/WhoIsGSHARP

I don't have an account on Facebook, but I think it would be really cool to hear the Revolution play some of the songs from the unreleased Dream Factory album. For example, as far as I'm concerned the definitive version of "Strange Relationship" is the one with the Indian instrument sounds at the beginning, from that album. Could that be replicated in concert? And it would be so cool to hear Lisa sing her lead vocal on "A Place in Heaven" live.

Why don't you just ask the question here? Some of us don't like games.

Just so everyone knows, GSharp actually sang with the Revolution at the reunion concert on Sunday night. He sang the lead on "Uptown," the final song of the reunion. So I think a little respect is in order.

electricberet said:

Just so everyone knows, GSharp actually sang with the Revolution at the reunion concert on Sunday night. He sang the lead on "Uptown," the final song of the reunion. So I think a little respect is in order.

well said. I wonder how long it will be before the ungrateful, patronsing dickheads on here will drive him away? I hope most will appreciate the effort the guys putting in.

I was surprised by how many hardcore fans I met at the pre-party who have ditched Prince.org because of all the negativity here, and are just connecting through Facebook now.

electricberet said:

I was surprised by how many hardcore fans I met at the pre-party who have ditched Prince.org because of all the negativity here, and are just connecting through Facebook now.

I'm not surprised. Unfortunately, the negative, straight up mean people here have chased many away. Personally, I stay because I have few people on my Facebook page that understand my purple passion. I've walked out on Prince's concert antics more times than my friends have seen him live. The org is still our place, and we need the positive people to stay. Luckily, we are now meeting face to face and exchanging emails, ect.

The funniest orgers recently are those that comment on shows purely based on setlists. It is truly hard to capture the feeling of a show that way. Looking at a setlist and claiming the show hadda suck cause Prince is doing too many covers, playing the same ole, ect is really getting old and predictable.

To go hard on GSharp is crazy-but typical of the antics of some orgers that think they are running more than their mouth. Ironic, because his biggest contribution Sunday was on a song whose lyrics challenged a restrictive mindset. GSharp breathed life into the First Ave version of Uptown.

pfunkpilot said:

electricberet said:

I was surprised by how many hardcore fans I met at the pre-party who have ditched Prince.org because of all the negativity here, and are just connecting through Facebook now.

I'm not surprised. Unfortunately, the negative, straight up mean people here have chased many away. Personally, I stay because I have few people on my Facebook page that understand my purple passion. I've walked out on Prince's concert antics more times than my friends have seen him live. The org is still our place, and we need the positive people to stay. Luckily, we are now meeting face to face and exchanging emails, ect.

The funniest orgers recently are those that comment on shows purely based on setlists. It is truly hard to capture the feeling of a show that way. Looking at a setlist and claiming the show hadda suck cause Prince is doing too many covers, playing the same ole, ect is really getting old and predictable.

To go hard on GSharp is crazy-but typical of the antics of some orgers that think they are running more than their mouth. Ironic, because his biggest contribution Sunday was on a song whose lyrics challenged a restrictive mindset. GSharp breathed life into the First Ave version of Uptown.

Yes. I laughed when he changed "No, are you?" to "Do I look gay to you?"

electricberet said:

Yes. I laughed when he changed "No, are you?" to "Do I look gay to you?"

Yea. It made the lyric more like a challenge. Like "Do you want me to prove i"m not gay?" I had great fun sliding up to some gal while he sang "This time it's alright"

pfunkpilot said:

electricberet said:

Yes. I laughed when he changed "No, are you?" to "Do I look gay to you?"

Yea. It made the lyric more like a challenge. Like "Do you want me to prove i"m not gay?" I had great fun sliding up to some gal while he sang "This time it's alright"

Someone needs to post a video of that song.

pfunkpilot said:

electricberet said:

I was surprised by how many hardcore fans I met at the pre-party who have ditched Prince.org because of all the negativity here, and are just connecting through Facebook now.

I'm not surprised. Unfortunately, the negative, straight up mean people here have chased many away. Personally, I stay because I have few people on my Facebook page that understand my purple passion. I've walked out on Prince's concert antics more times than my friends have seen him live. The org is still our place, and we need the positive people to stay. Luckily, we are now meeting face to face and exchanging emails, ect.

The funniest orgers recently are those that comment on shows purely based on setlists. It is truly hard to capture the feeling of a show that way. Looking at a setlist and claiming the show hadda suck cause Prince is doing too many covers, playing the same ole, ect is really getting old and predictable.

To go hard on GSharp is crazy-but typical of the antics of some orgers that think they are running more than their mouth. Ironic, because his biggest contribution Sunday was on a song whose lyrics challenged a restrictive mindset. GSharp breathed life into the First Ave version of Uptown.

He sure did.. actually you heard him through out the show.. he was providing background vocals and i appreciated what his voice added to the night..

electricberet said:

Just so everyone knows, GSharp actually sang with the Revolution at the reunion concert on Sunday night. He sang the lead on "Uptown," the final song of the reunion. So I think a little respect is in order.

I knew that. But I don't think it's unreasonable to expect someone to be up front - regardless of who he is. I don't care to "like" a random Facebook page or friend someone I don't know in order to answer a question I may or may not care about.

One of the nice things about the org is that you aren't required to give the site owners more information than they're entitled to. If that's offensive...oh, well...

banks said:

pfunkpilot said:

I'm not surprised. Unfortunately, the negative, straight up mean people here have chased many away. Personally, I stay because I have few people on my Facebook page that understand my purple passion. I've walked out on Prince's concert antics more times than my friends have seen him live. The org is still our place, and we need the positive people to stay. Luckily, we are now meeting face to face and exchanging emails, ect.

The funniest orgers recently are those that comment on shows purely based on setlists. It is truly hard to capture the feeling of a show that way. Looking at a setlist and claiming the show hadda suck cause Prince is doing too many covers, playing the same ole, ect is really getting old and predictable.

To go hard on GSharp is crazy-but typical of the antics of some orgers that think they are running more than their mouth. Ironic, because his biggest contribution Sunday was on a song whose lyrics challenged a restrictive mindset. GSharp breathed life into the First Ave version of Uptown.

He sure did.. actually you heard him through out the show.. he was providing background vocals and i appreciated what his voice added to the night..

LOL. Yea. Some people heard him and thought Prince was on a mike backstage somewhere. Dude's a professional who definitely has love for the songs. He mentioned that Bobby Z called him 2 weeks prior! Only way to pull that off is if you were singing the damn songs all the time anyway.

Genesia said:

electricberet said:

Just so everyone knows, GSharp actually sang with the Revolution at the reunion concert on Sunday night. He sang the lead on "Uptown," the final song of the reunion. So I think a little respect is in order.

I knew that. But I don't think it's unreasonable to expect someone to be up front - regardless of who he is. I don't care to "like" a random Facebook page or friend someone I don't know in order to answer a question I may or may not care about.

One of the nice things about the org is that you aren't required to give the site owners more information than they're entitled to. If that's offensive...oh, well...

Of course that's one of the upsides to the org, Genesia. I just think you could have said it nicer, and welcomed a newbie to the org warmly, that's all. If you think saying "some of us don't like games" is not less than warm, cool. I respectfully disagree, B. Orgers jump on newbies all the time, then we never see or hear from them again. I feel its always good to have multiple views on subjects.

pfunkpilot said:

Genesia said:

I knew that. But I don't think it's unreasonable to expect someone to be up front - regardless of who he is. I don't care to "like" a random Facebook page or friend someone I don't know in order to answer a question I may or may not care about.

One of the nice things about the org is that you aren't required to give the site owners more information than they're entitled to. If that's offensive...oh, well...

Of course that's one of the upsides to the org, Genesia. I just think you could have said it nicer, and welcomed a newbie to the org warmly, that's all. If you think saying "some of us don't like games" is not less than warm, cool. I respectfully disagree, B. Orgers jump on newbies all the time, then we never see or hear from them again. I feel its always good to have multiple views on subjects.

Yeah, well...dude showed up out of the blue, started 7,000 threads on the same topic (approximately) and I didn't say "boo." Now he wants me to go to his Facebook page, too. No, thanks.

If you respond warmly to that, cool. I respectfully disagree.

electricberet said:

pfunkpilot said:

I'm not surprised. Unfortunately, the negative, straight up mean people here have chased many away. Personally, I stay because I have few people on my Facebook page that understand my purple passion. I've walked out on Prince's concert antics more times than my friends have seen him live. The org is still our place, and we need the positive people to stay. Luckily, we are now meeting face to face and exchanging emails, ect.

The funniest orgers recently are those that comment on shows purely based on setlists. It is truly hard to capture the feeling of a show that way. Looking at a setlist and claiming the show hadda suck cause Prince is doing too many covers, playing the same ole, ect is really getting old and predictable.

To go hard on GSharp is crazy-but typical of the antics of some orgers that think they are running more than their mouth. Ironic, because his biggest contribution Sunday was on a song whose lyrics challenged a restrictive mindset. GSharp breathed life into the First Ave version of Uptown.

Yes. I laughed when he changed "No, are you?" to "Do I look gay to you?"

That's funny because I don't think that line was funny at all. What does gay look like?

Vendetta1 said:

electricberet said:

Yes. I laughed when he changed "No, are you?" to "Do I look gay to you?"

That's funny because I don't think that line was funny at all. What does gay look like?

Shim.

Genesia said:

Vendetta1 said:

That's funny because I don't think that line was funny at all. What does gay look like?

Shim.

Pretty much.

Vendetta1 said:

electricberet said:

Yes. I laughed when he changed "No, are you?" to "Do I look gay to you?"

That's funny because I don't think that line was funny at all. What does gay look like?

Dude is probably a nice guy (and talented? haven´t heard him yet) but that gay remark is not cool. Not only is it homophobic but a bit dumb and disrespectful considering that he was up on stage with openly gay people and singing for an audience with a high percentage of gay people.

But hey, Lisa and Wendy don´t seem to mind, so who am I to judge? But, as far as I´m concerned...very stupid and offensive remark.

KoolEaze said:

Vendetta1 said:

That's funny because I don't think that line was funny at all. What does gay look like?

Dude is probably a nice guy (and talented? haven´t heard him yet) but that gay remark is not cool. Not only is it homophobic but a bit dumb and disrespectful considering that he was up on stage with openly gay people and singing for an audience with a high percentage of gay people.

But hey, Lisa and Wendy don´t seem to mind, so who am I to judge? But, as far as I´m concerned...very stupid and offensive remark.

Well, I think the original lyrics don't make a lot of sense. Prince goes up and hits on a girl, she asks if he's gay, and he concludes that she is a crazy mixed up dame who's a victim of society and all its games.

I guess you can read it however you want. I was way up in the back but it looked to me like Wendy was laughing or smiling when he sang the line, so I don't think it was meant as some kind of homophobic insult. If he was making fun of anyone, I think he was making fun of Prince for being so uptight.

KoolEaze said:

Vendetta1 said:

That's funny because I don't think that line was funny at all. What does gay look like?

Dude is probably a nice guy (and talented? haven´t heard him yet) but that gay remark is not cool. Not only is it homophobic but a bit dumb and disrespectful considering that he was up on stage with openly gay people and singing for an audience with a high percentage of gay people.

But hey, Lisa and Wendy don´t seem to mind, so who am I to judge? But, as far as I´m concerned...very stupid and offensive remark.

I thought the lyrics were an honest question and answer between possible partners. Many women get involved with men that they do not know are gay, and many men that do not fit a ridiculous profile are assumed to be gay. Just my take, which doesn't mean much since I'm not gay. I always hate when I get upset over racial lyrics and people try to explain it away. I would imagine you feel about the same.

pfunkpilot said:

KoolEaze said:

Dude is probably a nice guy (and talented? haven´t heard him yet) but that gay remark is not cool. Not only is it homophobic but a bit dumb and disrespectful considering that he was up on stage with openly gay people and singing for an audience with a high percentage of gay people.

But hey, Lisa and Wendy don´t seem to mind, so who am I to judge? But, as far as I´m concerned...very stupid and offensive remark.

I thought the lyrics were an honest question and answer between possible partners. Many women get involved with men that they do not know are gay, and many men that do not fit a ridiculous profile are assumed to be gay. Just my take, which doesn't mean much since I'm not gay. I always hate when I get upset over racial lyrics and people try to explain it away. I would imagine you feel about the same.

As I recall GSharp was singing to Wendy as if she was the girl, in which case "No, are you?" would have been a stupid question (even if he didn't know, she answered it during the first song). It seemed to me that both of them were just being playful. But I'll have to see the video. I think the original lyrics were meant to be shocking back in 1980, fitting into the Dirty Mind concept. Prince wasn't that comfortable with gay people then (e.g., "Bambi") and he's even less comfortable now, which is why it was refreshing to hear Wendy sing some of the songs from that era and actually sound like she means it.

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pfunkpilot said:

KoolEaze said:

Dude is probably a nice guy (and talented? haven´t heard him yet) but that gay remark is not cool. Not only is it homophobic but a bit dumb and disrespectful considering that he was up on stage with openly gay people and singing for an audience with a high percentage of gay people.

But hey, Lisa and Wendy don´t seem to mind, so who am I to judge? But, as far as I´m concerned...very stupid and offensive remark.

I thought the lyrics were an honest question and answer between possible partners. Many women get involved with men that they do not know are gay, and many men that do not fit a ridiculous profile are assumed to be gay. Just my take, which doesn't mean much since I'm not gay. I always hate when I get upset over racial lyrics and people try to explain it away. I would imagine you feel about the same.

Well, I´m not gay and I don´t think that Greg had any homophobic intentions, I just found the remark a bit misplaced but, like I said, I wasn´t there and I don´t know whether Wendy rehearsed that part with him. But my friends were there and I trust their judgment, and I still find that line unnecessary and inappropriate, if not offensive, but hey, I don´t know the guy and I wasn´t there, so......

Still, way to ruin a classic part of a classic Prince song. But maybe it was ok for that moment, I don´t know.

Vendetta1 said:

Genesia said:

Shim.

Pretty much.

I assumed he was gay when he said that. He's not?

Efan said:

Vendetta1 said:

Pretty much.

I assumed he was gay when he said that. He's not?

KoolEaze said:

pfunkpilot said:

I thought the lyrics were an honest question and answer between possible partners. Many women get involved with men that they do not know are gay, and many men that do not fit a ridiculous profile are assumed to be gay. Just my take, which doesn't mean much since I'm not gay. I always hate when I get upset over racial lyrics and people try to explain it away. I would imagine you feel about the same.

Well, I´m not gay and I don´t think that Greg had any homophobic intentions, I just found the remark a bit misplaced but, like I said, I wasn´t there and I don´t know whether Wendy rehearsed that part with him. But my friends were there and I trust their judgment, and I still find that line unnecessary and inappropriate, if not offensive, but hey, I don´t know the guy and I wasn´t there, so......

Still, way to ruin a classic part of a classic Prince song. But maybe it was ok for that moment, I don´t know.

He also later asked just the white people to clap.

It was very odd.

It didn’t strike me as his intent being to offend in either case, but it didn’t quite fit, either. They both just felt awkward.

Regardless, he did a fine job providing back-ups and such and definitely added to the overall performance.

CarrieMpls said:

KoolEaze said:

Well, I´m not gay and I don´t think that Greg had any homophobic intentions, I just found the remark a bit misplaced but, like I said, I wasn´t there and I don´t know whether Wendy rehearsed that part with him. But my friends were there and I trust their judgment, and I still find that line unnecessary and inappropriate, if not offensive, but hey, I don´t know the guy and I wasn´t there, so......

Still, way to ruin a classic part of a classic Prince song. But maybe it was ok for that moment, I don´t know.

He also later asked just the white people to clap.

It was very odd.

It didn’t strike me as his intent being to offend in either case, but it didn’t quite fit, either. They both just felt awkward.

Regardless, he did a fine job providing back-ups and such and definitely added to the overall performance.

Yes, now that I think about it, that did strike me as odd. Maybe he was going for some kind of D.M.S.R. tribute and he just forgot to move on from the white people to other groups. Did that happen before or after the woman passed out?

Anyway, I agree with your last point 100% and I think we need to cut some slack for a singer who was asked to fill in for Prince on short notice.

electricberet said:

CarrieMpls said:

He also later asked just the white people to clap.

It was very odd.

It didn’t strike me as his intent being to offend in either case, but it didn’t quite fit, either. They both just felt awkward.

Regardless, he did a fine job providing back-ups and such and definitely added to the overall performance.

Yes, now that I think about it, that did strike me as odd. Maybe he was going for some kind of D.M.S.R. tribute and he just forgot to move on from the white people to other groups. Did that happen before or after the woman passed out?

Anyway, I agree with your last point 100% and I think we need to cut some slack for a singer who was asked to fill in for Prince on short notice.

0o0o0 going now!

Zannaloaf said:

electricberet said:

Yes, now that I think about it, that did strike me as odd. Maybe he was going for some kind of D.M.S.R. tribute and he just forgot to move on from the white people to other groups. Did that happen before or after the woman passed out?

Anyway, I agree with your last point 100% and I think we need to cut some slack for a singer who was asked to fill in for Prince on short notice.

Funny part is when the line about being gay was sung I heard Lisa in the back go "yes".lol He also asked all the black people to clap after I think...its kind of an old school thing...like all the ladies scream....then all the men say...whatever...

Listening to the new soundboard now. You can hear Lisa say "Yes!" in response to "Are you gay?" and then either Lisa or Wendy says "No!" when he asks, "Do I look gay to you?" Sounds to me like they're just having fun.

He asked the white folks to clap "without any help from all my black brothers and sisters." Maybe he intended to move on to other groups next (Puerto Ricans and Japanese people?), but got distracted when the girl passed out in front. It seems like the band handled that situation pretty well. I hope she is okay.

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