TheFreakerFantastic said:

wonder505 said:

So because I listened to Gaslight 2 and a half times, cringing through the third time and don't like the cd, you, a complete a stranger, is going to judge me and my entire music catalog and what I like? that's kind of dumb. no that's really dumb. Yes many cds are growers but in my experience and I like every kind of music, mostly indie, there is always something that draws me back to give the cd another chance. Gaslight is cringeworthy. I DONT LIKE THE CD. Get over it! and take your head out of St. Paul and dem's ass. if you like Gaslight then cool. stop getting your feelings hurt because others dont. and why you keep bringing up 20Ten? what does Prince have to do with anything? Is that what this is about? Praise Gaslight to get a dig at Prince's output?...wow how mature. Again, I am happy you enjoy the cd.

[Edited 11/24/11 9:22am]

Step away from the .org and put Gaslight on repeat for the next few days...then come back...hahah

grow up and accept the fact that people have different opinions and are not going to like everything that you like.

wonder505 said:

2elijah said:

(Bolded part) Yes, 20ten is 'definitely' better than 'Gaslight'. Different strokes for different folks, that's all. Not everyone is going to like the same type music. Now as far as the O7's cd, regardless of my opinion of the current name of their band/same image, I will be purchasing their album this weekend.

[Edited 11/24/11 9:27am]

careful now, you gonna hurt some feelings with that statement!

Hey there and Happy TG by the way. I don't see why anyone would feel that way when we all have different tastes in music, and I really do like 20ten better than what I've heard from Gaslight. Gaslight just doesn't do it for me, and it's not a negative opinion of the band, the album just doesn't make me want to say, 'Hey let me go put on some Gaslight music and groove to it!" 20ten is cool with me though.

TheFreakerFantastic said:

^ Oh Gosh, 2elijah, please take that back. I thought you were bright and intelligent....

20TEN is a pile of crap (apart from Act Of God)....Gaslight is amazing...

[Edited 11/24/11 9:33am]

No, can't do that. It is what it is, and I thought you were 'bright/intelligent' enough to understand that not everyone has the same tastes in music. If you like orange juice should I like it too? Absolutely not. I'm sure the members of FDeluxe are aware that not everyone will be moved by their album, but some will. If you like 'Gaslight' then that's fine, but don't expect everyone else to. Nothing wrong with being honest about what type of music or which musician's/artist's music you don't like. Members do that all the time here. I like 20ten, and you will just have to live with that. Now stop messing with me on this most beautiful day.

[Edited 11/24/11 10:06am]

^ Wow, steady on!

TheFreakerFantastic said:

carlcranshaw said:

Is Jesse wearing a Paisley shirt and holding his middle finger up to say F U Prince?

Is there a subliminal in this photo?

Well spotted, just looked my album cover close up - to me he is definitely giving the finger, I think this IS a subliminal message....cleverly done....

Yeah. Right.

smoothcriminal12 said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Well spotted, just looked my album cover close up - to me he is definitely giving the finger, I think this IS a subliminal message....cleverly done....

Yeah. Right.

People. Are. Tripping!

Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Yeah. Right.

People. Are. Tripping!

It's not exactly subliminal, is it. bBt only Jessie knows who he's pointing the finger at.

purplethunder3121 said:

Timmy84 said:

People. Are. Tripping!

It's not exactly subliminal, is it. bBt only Jessie knows who he's pointing the finger at.

It wouldn't surprise me if it is. Don't care one way or the other.

This has been Jessie's stick since Shockadelica. I think he loves fucking with

the media and Prince. I don't believe it's anything personal but that's Jessie.

Jessie says what's on his mind. I remember long before the Pandemonium reunion

Jessie was on the radio talking shit saying that the Time were gonna reunite and

if Prince tried to fuck it up he would kick Prince ass.

When all is said and done, The O7 delivers. You know what you're buying and you get what you paid for - a great show with interesting and entertaining people performing the music. A new record means a few more new songs in the set. That's a good thing. That's what the people want.

So many artists are self-indulgent ego-maniacs who believe they are doing you some big favor by doing their rendition or re-interpretation of some obscure concept they came up with while they were high. Hey, if that's what they want to do, then that's fine. Some fans love that. Some just want to hear and see artists that they know and love do what they do. Some people don't want to go on the "ride" that an artist may want to take them on. So, if (for example) Trent Reznor wakes up and decides he wants to make a country CD, good for him. All I want is a heads-up before the concert so that I can check youtube clips before I decide to buy a ticket. If that means I'm not a real fan of NIN, so be it. I don't owe them an indulgence. I have the right to choose my own musical experiences. The Time knows what their audience wants and they deliver it. I don't have to check youtube for clips of their show. I KNOW they are gonna bring it. They know what time it is.

Over the past few years, having too many choices seems to have warped peoples' sense of judgment. People treat music artists these days like they are ordering from a lunch menu:
"I'll have the jazz fusion and I want Britney Spears to sing it. I'll also have a side of acoustic folk sung by Rammstein and could I also get a rap verse from Cher? No, make that a rap verse from Taylor Swift. I'll also have the techno with Trey Songz on vocals and a slice of country and western from Usher and Alicia Keys."
People have gone mad with choices.
Some people just want the artists they like to do the songs they do the way they do them with an acceptable amount of surprises in the arrangements.

Genre-hopping is not acceptable all of the time by everyone. Just ask Van Hunt. I went to see him recently and he was so arrogant about his "new style" that he had the gall to not only force a bunch of songs from the new record onto the audience with no regard but had the nerve to re-format his old songs to sound more "punk-like". The results were disasterous. He lost about half his audience before the set was over. What the fuck was he thinking? Those were R&B heads. They didn't want to see a punk-fusion show.
The O7 would not pull a stunt like that and some of us appreciate that. We don't need them to genre shift to keep us entertained; just do what they do, plus a little extra that we don't expect and it will be great.

[Edited 11/24/11 16:59pm]

purplethunder3121 said:

Timmy84 said:

People. Are. Tripping!

It's not exactly subliminal, is it. bBt only Jessie knows who he's pointing the finger at.

How do we even know he was pointing a finger at anybody. He might've had his finger stuck in something! That's an odd pose though lol

my cousin and i have been mpls fans since 84 and have gone 2 a lot of concerts 2gether, gotten involed with all the proteges etc. he handn't gotten the new album condensate yet so today being thansgiving i grabbed him and pulled him 2 my ride. i played snippet of each song over 2 mins long. the minute he started hearing song after song and his head started bopping, the smile on his face, the funk was hitting him. he turned 2 me and said "thanks man i'm picking this up 2morrow! if only prince would do something like this again"

BlaqueKnight said:

When all is said and done, The O7 delivers. You know what you're buying and you get what you paid for - a great show with interesting and entertaining people performing the music. A new record means a few more new songs in the set. That's a good thing. That's what the people want.

So many artists are self-indulgent ego-maniacs who believe they are doing you some big favor by doing their rendition or re-interpretation of some obscure concept they came up with while they were high. Hey, if that's what they want to do, then that's fine. Some fans love that. Some just want to hear and see artists that they know and love do what they do. Some people don't want to go on the "ride" that an artist may want to take them on. So, if (for example) Trent Reznor wakes up and decides he wants to make a country CD, good for him. All I want is a heads-up before the concert so that I can check youtube clips before I decide to buy a ticket. If that means I'm not a real fan of NIN, so be it. I don't owe them an indulgence. I have the right to choose my own musical experiences. The Time knows what their audience wants and they deliver it. I don't have to check youtube for clips of their show. I KNOW they are gonna bring it. They know what time it is.

Over the past few years, having too many choices seems to have warped peoples' sense of judgment. People treat music artists these days like they are ordering from a lunch menu:
"I'll have the jazz fusion and I want Britney Spears to sing it. I'll also have a side of acoustic folk sung by Rammstein and could I also get a rap verse from Cher? No, make that a rap verse from Taylor Swift. I'll also have the techno with Trey Songz on vocals and a slice of country and western from Usher and Alicia Keys."
People have gone mad with choices.
Some people just want the artists they like to do the songs they do the way they do them with an acceptable amount of surprises in the arrangements.

Genre-hopping is not acceptable all of the time by everyone. Just ask Van Hunt. I went to see him recently and he was so arrogant about his "new style" that he had the gall to not only force a bunch of songs from the new record onto the audience with no regard but had the nerve to re-format his old songs to sound more "punk-like". The results were disasterous. He lost about half his audience before the set was over. What the fuck was he thinking? Those were R&B heads. They didn't want to see a punk-fusion show.
The O7 would not pull a stunt like that and some of us appreciate that. We don't need them to genre shift to keep us entertained; just do what they do, plus a little extra that we don't expect and it will be great.

[Edited 11/24/11 16:59pm]

Damn Blaque, you said it ALL!!!

BlaqueKnight said:

When all is said and done, The O7 delivers. You know what you're buying and you get what you paid for - a great show with interesting and entertaining people performing the music. A new record means a few more new songs in the set. That's a good thing. That's what the people want.

So many artists are self-indulgent ego-maniacs who believe they are doing you some big favor by doing their rendition or re-interpretation of some obscure concept they came up with while they were high. Hey, if that's what they want to do, then that's fine. Some fans love that. Some just want to hear and see artists that they know and love do what they do. Some people don't want to go on the "ride" that an artist may want to take them on. So, if (for example) Trent Reznor wakes up and decides he wants to make a country CD, good for him. All I want is a heads-up before the concert so that I can check youtube clips before I decide to buy a ticket. If that means I'm not a real fan of NIN, so be it. I don't owe them an indulgence. I have the right to choose my own musical experiences. The Time knows what their audience wants and they deliver it. I don't have to check youtube for clips of their show. I KNOW they are gonna bring it. They know what time it is.

Over the past few years, having too many choices seems to have warped peoples' sense of judgment. People treat music artists these days like they are ordering from a lunch menu:
"I'll have the jazz fusion and I want Britney Spears to sing it. I'll also have a side of acoustic folk sung by Rammstein and could I also get a rap verse from Cher? No, make that a rap verse from Taylor Swift. I'll also have the techno with Trey Songz on vocals and a slice of country and western from Usher and Alicia Keys."
People have gone mad with choices.
Some people just want the artists they like to do the songs they do the way they do them with an acceptable amount of surprises in the arrangements.

Genre-hopping is not acceptable all of the time by everyone. Just ask Van Hunt. I went to see him recently and he was so arrogant about his "new style" that he had the gall to not only force a bunch of songs from the new record onto the audience with no regard but had the nerve to re-format his old songs to sound more "punk-like". The results were disasterous. He lost about half his audience before the set was over. What the fuck was he thinking? Those were R&B heads. They didn't want to see a punk-fusion show.
The O7 would not pull a stunt like that and some of us appreciate that. We don't need them to genre shift to keep us entertained; just do what they do, plus a little extra that we don't expect and it will be great.

[Edited 11/24/11 16:59pm]

Considering they don't don't have an extensive catalog to draw on is it too much to expect them to play tracks like 'After High School' or 'OnedayI'mgonnabesomebody' every once in awhile? Not a change in style but a change in song choices.

TheFreakerFantastic said:

^ ....

20TEN is a pile of crap (apart from Act Of God)....Gaslight is amazing...

[Edited 11/24/11 9:33am]

That must be some good stuff u are smoking...........

^ If you seriously think the opposite then I would make the same comment to you too....

HonestMan13 said:

BlaqueKnight said:

When all is said and done, The O7 delivers. You know what you're buying and you get what you paid for - a great show with interesting and entertaining people performing the music. A new record means a few more new songs in the set. That's a good thing. That's what the people want.

So many artists are self-indulgent ego-maniacs who believe they are doing you some big favor by doing their rendition or re-interpretation of some obscure concept they came up with while they were high. Hey, if that's what they want to do, then that's fine. Some fans love that. Some just want to hear and see artists that they know and love do what they do. Some people don't want to go on the "ride" that an artist may want to take them on. So, if (for example) Trent Reznor wakes up and decides he wants to make a country CD, good for him. All I want is a heads-up before the concert so that I can check youtube clips before I decide to buy a ticket. If that means I'm not a real fan of NIN, so be it. I don't owe them an indulgence. I have the right to choose my own musical experiences. The Time knows what their audience wants and they deliver it. I don't have to check youtube for clips of their show. I KNOW they are gonna bring it. They know what time it is.

Over the past few years, having too many choices seems to have warped peoples' sense of judgment. People treat music artists these days like they are ordering from a lunch menu:
"I'll have the jazz fusion and I want Britney Spears to sing it. I'll also have a side of acoustic folk sung by Rammstein and could I also get a rap verse from Cher? No, make that a rap verse from Taylor Swift. I'll also have the techno with Trey Songz on vocals and a slice of country and western from Usher and Alicia Keys."
People have gone mad with choices.
Some people just want the artists they like to do the songs they do the way they do them with an acceptable amount of surprises in the arrangements.

Genre-hopping is not acceptable all of the time by everyone. Just ask Van Hunt. I went to see him recently and he was so arrogant about his "new style" that he had the gall to not only force a bunch of songs from the new record onto the audience with no regard but had the nerve to re-format his old songs to sound more "punk-like". The results were disasterous. He lost about half his audience before the set was over. What the fuck was he thinking? Those were R&B heads. They didn't want to see a punk-fusion show.
The O7 would not pull a stunt like that and some of us appreciate that. We don't need them to genre shift to keep us entertained; just do what they do, plus a little extra that we don't expect and it will be great.

[Edited 11/24/11 16:59pm]

Considering they don't don't have an extensive catalog to draw on is it too much to expect them to play tracks like 'After High School' or 'OnedayI'mgonnabesomebody' every once in awhile? Not a change in style but a change in song choices.

I've seen them play both of those songs. You obviously don't make it out to a lot of Time concerts.

funksterr said:

HonestMan13 said:

Considering they don't don't have an extensive catalog to draw on is it too much to expect them to play tracks like 'After High School' or 'OnedayI'mgonnabesomebody' every once in awhile? Not a change in style but a change in song choices.

I've seen them play both of those songs. You obviously don't make it out to a lot of Time concerts.

The one's I attended they didn't. It was the same setlist everytime. I wasn't exactly about to start traveling to see more of the same thing.

HonestMan13 said:

funksterr said:

I've seen them play both of those songs. You obviously don't make it out to a lot of Time concerts.

The one's I attended they didn't. It was the same setlist everytime. I wasn't exactly about to start traveling to see more of the same thing.

HonestMan13 said:

Considering they don't don't have an extensive catalog to draw on is it too much to expect them to play tracks like 'After High School' or 'OnedayI'mgonnabesomebody' every once in awhile? Not a change in style but a change in song choices.

Every once in awhile is what you said and that is what they do.

^^^I guess I should've held out an chased them around the country for that rare experience of a setlist change.

HonestMan13 said:

^^^I guess I should've held out an chased them around the country for that rare experience of a setlist change.

I don't even think it's that rare. I think you like to speak of things you know little to nothing about. If you did see them, or most any other act, you have to know if you are seeing the full show or an abbreviated version. If there are a large number of acts on the bill or if the show is free then you most likely got the abbreviated show and wrongly assumed that was all that EVER happens.

HonestMan13 said:

^^^I guess I should've held out an chased them around the country for that rare experience of a setlist change.

Dude please quit while you're behind.

funksterr said:

HonestMan13 said:

^^^I guess I should've held out an chased them around the country for that rare experience of a setlist change.

I don't even think it's that rare. I think you like to speak of things you know little to nothing about. If you did see them, or most any other act, you have to know if you are seeing the full show or an abbreviated version. If there are a large number of acts on the bill or if the show is free then you most likely got the abbreviated show and wrongly assumed that was all that EVER happens.

All shows I attended Morris Day & The Time were the headliners only 2 of the shows had opening acts (Sandra St.Victor and a rock band who's name I don't remember). So there were not a large number of acts on the bill. Unless you consider 2 to be 'large'. So assuming the full show was repetitive after seeing it 3 times was enough for me. Or do you feel I should have attended more shows to form my conclusion?

HonestMan13 said:

funksterr said:

I don't even think it's that rare. I think you like to speak of things you know little to nothing about. If you did see them, or most any other act, you have to know if you are seeing the full show or an abbreviated version. If there are a large number of acts on the bill or if the show is free then you most likely got the abbreviated show and wrongly assumed that was all that EVER happens.

All shows I attended Morris Day & The Time were the headliners only 2 of the shows had opening acts (Sandra St.Victor and a rock band who's name I don't remember). So there were not a large number of acts on the bill. Unless you consider 2 to be 'large'. So assuming the full show was repetitive after seeing it 3 times was enough for me. Or do you feel I should have attended more shows to form my conclusion?

I've seen Morris Day and The Time play both of those songs. You got the abbreviated show. 2 acts on the bill means less time for the band to play. And back to your original criticism, you said "is it too much to expect them to play tracks like 'After High School' or 'OnedayI'mgonnabesomebody' every once in awhile?". Ok they do.

funksterr said:

HonestMan13 said:

All shows I attended Morris Day & The Time were the headliners only 2 of the shows had opening acts (Sandra St.Victor and a rock band who's name I don't remember). So there were not a large number of acts on the bill. Unless you consider 2 to be 'large'. So assuming the full show was repetitive after seeing it 3 times was enough for me. Or do you feel I should have attended more shows to form my conclusion?

I've seen Morris Day and The Time play both of those songs. You got the abbreviated show. 2 acts on the bill means less time for the band to play. And back to your original criticism, you said "is it too much to expect them to play tracks like 'After High School' or 'OnedayI'mgonnabesomebody' every once in awhile?". Ok they do.

2 hours isn't abrreviated. But you can feel whatever you like I based my statement on the shows I've attended and the ones I've seen setlists for on this site.

HonestMan13 said:

funksterr said:

I've seen Morris Day and The Time play both of those songs. You got the abbreviated show. 2 acts on the bill means less time for the band to play. And back to your original criticism, you said "is it too much to expect them to play tracks like 'After High School' or 'OnedayI'mgonnabesomebody' every once in awhile?". Ok they do.

2 hours isn't abrreviated. But you can feel whatever you like I based my statement on the shows I've attended and the ones I've seen setlists for on this site.

You said: "is it too much to expect them to play tracks like 'After High School' or 'OnedayI'mgonnabesomebody' every once in awhile?" They do play those songs sometimes. I guess you never make mistakes though, so I shouldn't expect you to just admit you messed up and move on.

i am not going 2 add fuel 2 this fire ..okay maybe a little bit but ummm T remember what i told u during the NYC gigs of the W2A about how the setlist seemed like the same thing over and over and u disagreed with me. but now ur saying the same thing about the time and thier setlist. i'm in agreement with u about i haven't seen the time live since i knew what the setlist has been however over the course of time they have added more of their songs to the list as opposed 2 when i had seen them last. and hopefully with this upcoming tour they will add more from condensate. but seriously bro, u can't say now that prince is really doing anything different in his setlist then when we saw him at the garden

In the famous words of Morris Day: Oh Lawd!!!

I'm assuming some of you have seen this interview with Morris, Jessie, Jerome and Jimmy Jam:

http://www.myfoxtwincitie...nov-4-2011

Someone else posted this on the Roger Troutman on Video Soul thread and I found the interview (though long) very interesting yet hilarious at times. It's obvious that Jimmy Jam and Jessie are more vocal than their counterparts, but I can appreciate their honesty. The part where Jessie, I believe, brought up a memory from the past where Prince told Morris not to do the "Bird" and how Morris would respond and just say "yeah yeah" then when the Time got on the stage, the first thing Morris would do is the "Bird". I could just imagine the fights they had with P back in the day. I also didn't know that The Time had a screenplay (already done or in the works?) but Prince intercepted and then it turned into Jimmy Jam's description (hilariously done) of what became the awful "Graffiti Bridge". And then the discussion of how in the world that happened in the first place (Prince intercepting THEIR plans)...and Jessie responds "The way it always happens".

But off the topic a bit, while watching the interview, I somehow had this urging feeling for them to bring up Alexander O'Neal and how all of that went down...the real deal. Not that bullshit Alex said on his "Unsung" episode on TVOne.

[Edited 11/27/11 13:49pm]

L4OATheOriginal said:

i am not going 2 add fuel 2 this fire ..okay maybe a little bit but ummm T remember what i told u during the NYC gigs of the W2A about how the setlist seemed like the same thing over and over and u disagreed with me. but now ur saying the same thing about the time and thier setlist. i'm in agreement with u about i haven't seen the time live since i knew what the setlist has been however over the course of time they have added more of their songs to the list as opposed 2 when i had seen them last. and hopefully with this upcoming tour they will add more from condensate. but seriously bro, u can't say now that prince is really doing anything different in his setlist then when we saw him at the garden

I never mentioned Prince. What I said was since they had a smaller catalog it would be easier for them to play more obscure track every now and then as opposed to a hits set every time. The Time actually play more to their hardcore fanbase whereas Prince(depending on the size of the venue) does not. I'm not disagreeing with you about Prince playing songs repeatedly. With a smaller catalog it's easier to keep things fresh and surprising without alienating your audience.

^ Unbelievable. Surely you understand that if they have a smaller catalogue statistically they have LESS 'obscure' material to choose from? Perhaps not...

EugeneKnight said:

^ Unbelievable. Surely you understand that if they have a smaller catalogue statistically they have LESS 'obscure' material to choose from? Perhaps not...

If you have 35 songs in your entire catalog and 17 of them are extremely popular and well known, what is to stop you from mixing the other 18 into your set randomly? Morris saw fit to mix some of his solo hits into the Time set. Why not the less played non single tracks from their albums?