L4OATheOriginal said:

so does marketing have 2 be done in prince's case? absolutely but he doesn't have the motivation 2 do it so again that quote about wondering why a song of his isn't on the radio, well look no further than the mirror.

Prince has never really did promotion. Even when he was mainstream popular, he rarely did interviews, and if he did didn't allow tape recorders which made the interviewer try to memorize what he said. He didn't do "I Want My MTV" type ads, didn't go around to radio stations, etc. Warners promo department did it for him. Since he's independent now, he has no one to do it. Like I mentioned, Target is a department store, they have nothing to do with promoting music. He can't get on the radio himself, because it's unlikely he has enough money to pay a lot of stations to play his records. Although the Original 7ven are on a small label, it's distributed by Warners, a major with more connections than an independent act does.

phunkdaddy said:

Mpaige63 said:

I've been away from the org for years. Ain't no one bitching but stating that the lyrics are garbage. No I don't look to the Time for insightful lyrics but I also didn't expect the space of 30 years to show no signs of maturity. I get it, I get it... it's nostalgia. Just wasn't expecting a return of the exact same ole. Prince drop something tomorrow you may bitch about it but it won't be what he dropped 30 years ago.

He dropped Lotusflow3r and even he stated on Tavis Smiley he could not understand how

it wasn't getting any airplay. You're telling me Dance 4 Me wasn't a Sign of the Times era

song. It probably was the one song on the album that should have gotten airplay. Now

like the 07 new album or not at least Trendin is getting some airplay. The band is being

themselves it's worked for 3 decades so it's no need to change who they are. They've done

that with their own individual projects.

This statement implies that they were actually a band for the last 30 years and they were not at all. They weren't since 1990 and barely one even then(they did the movie and promptly broke up again). So expecting a bit of growth or change in the style is not totally unrealistic. If they had been making CDs all of that time and never changed it up then you'd really know what to expect.

HonestMan13 said:

phunkdaddy said:

He dropped Lotusflow3r and even he stated on Tavis Smiley he could not understand how

it wasn't getting any airplay. You're telling me Dance 4 Me wasn't a Sign of the Times era

song. It probably was the one song on the album that should have gotten airplay. Now

like the 07 new album or not at least Trendin is getting some airplay. The band is being

themselves it's worked for 3 decades so it's no need to change who they are. They've done

that with their own individual projects.

This statement implies that they were actually a band for the last 30 years and they were not at all. They weren't since 1990 and barely one even then(they did the movie and promptly broke up again). So expecting a bit of growth or change in the style is not totally unrealistic. If they had been making CDs all of that time and never changed it up then you'd really know what to expect.

They have been a band. It just hasn't been the original band. Morris has been touring with

Jellybean, Jerome, and Monte, and a few other replacements since 1994 as Morris Day &

the Time. So they have kept the music and the band's name alive all this time and they

have been very popular when the old school revival hit in the early nineties. They have

been doing it without having to release new material much like Maze and Frankie Beverly.

All the old school r&b groups over the years have been touring without all the original

members. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis demands were such they couldn't continue full time

not to mention they had a deal with A&M forthcoming to start their own label. The acts on

Jimmy and Terry's A&M Perspective label alone had more hits than the acts on P's Paisley

Park label.

phunkdaddy said:

HonestMan13 said:

This statement implies that they were actually a band for the last 30 years and they were not at all. They weren't since 1990 and barely one even then(they did the movie and promptly broke up again). So expecting a bit of growth or change in the style is not totally unrealistic. If they had been making CDs all of that time and never changed it up then you'd really know what to expect.

They have been a band. It just hasn't been the original band. Morris has been touring with Jellybean, Jerome, and Monte, and a few other replacements since 1994 as Morris Day & the Time. So they have kept the music and the band's name alive all this time and they

have been very popular when the old school revival hit in the early nineties. They have

been doing it without having to release new material much like Maze and Frankie Beverly.

All the old school r&b groups over the years have been touring without all the original

members. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis demands were such they couldn't continue full time

not to mention they had a deal with A&M forthcoming to start their own label. The acts on

Jimmy and Terry's A&M Perspective label alone had more hits than the acts on P's Paisley

Park label.

The line-up you referred to that is "lovingly" referred to on here as 'Half-Time' and 'Part-Time' were stage musicians taught to play the tracks and nothing more. Basically the same thing as all of the Purple Rain replacements(and we know how Morris felt about them). They recorded no new music and basically only served to keep Morris Day's career afloat(so much so that they played BB Kings in NYC only little more than 2 months before Condensate was released). The O7 have not been a band since 1990 and only at that Grammy performance with Rihanna. Morris and Jerome have popped up as a duo at some Prince gigs but that's it. When your members are off doing other things and not even concerned with the rest of the group then you're not a band at that time. It's more accurate to say they reunited for this than to imply they were all sitting in a studio together for 2 decades coming up with this CD. Just my opinion.

HonestMan13 said:

phunkdaddy said:

They have been a band. It just hasn't been the original band. Morris has been touring with Jellybean, Jerome, and Monte, and a few other replacements since 1994 as Morris Day & the Time. So they have kept the music and the band's name alive all this time and they

have been very popular when the old school revival hit in the early nineties. They have

been doing it without having to release new material much like Maze and Frankie Beverly.

All the old school r&b groups over the years have been touring without all the original

members. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis demands were such they couldn't continue full time

not to mention they had a deal with A&M forthcoming to start their own label. The acts on

Jimmy and Terry's A&M Perspective label alone had more hits than the acts on P's Paisley

Park label.

The line-up you referred to that is "lovingly" referred to on here as 'Half-Time' and 'Part-Time' were stage musicians taught to play the tracks and nothing more. Basically the same thing as all of the Purple Rain replacements(and we know how Morris felt about them). They recorded no new music and basically only served to keep Morris Day's career afloat(so much so that they played BB Kings in NYC only little more than 2 months before Condensate was released). The O7 have not been a band since 1990 and only at that Grammy performance with Rihanna. Morris and Jerome have popped up as a duo at some Prince gigs but that's it. When your members are off doing other things and not even concerned with the rest of the group then you're not a band at that time. It's more accurate to say they reunited for this than to imply they were all sitting in a studio together for 2 decades coming up with this CD. Just my opinion.

That's some real fine thinkin'. Too bad it just amounts to drivel - in my opnion. PLENTY of bands change members, doesn't make them not a band anymore. Plenty of bands reunited to play only OLD albums...are they not proper bands anymore? You really have to reach far to avoud that Prince is simply being a d!ck about a name. Doesn't take away from his talent. After all he's been one on many other occasions and he can still play guitar (maybe it explains his newer music tho...imo...

[Edited 11/4/11 17:37pm]

Zannaloaf said:

HonestMan13 said:

The line-up you referred to that is "lovingly" referred to on here as 'Half-Time' and 'Part-Time' were stage musicians taught to play the tracks and nothing more. Basically the same thing as all of the Purple Rain replacements(and we know how Morris felt about them). They recorded no new music and basically only served to keep Morris Day's career afloat(so much so that they played BB Kings in NYC only little more than 2 months before Condensate was released). The O7 have not been a band since 1990 and only at that Grammy performance with Rihanna. Morris and Jerome have popped up as a duo at some Prince gigs but that's it. When your members are off doing other things and not even concerned with the rest of the group then you're not a band at that time. It's more accurate to say they reunited for this than to imply they were all sitting in a studio together for 2 decades coming up with this CD. Just my opinion.

That's some real fine thinkin'. Too bad it just amounts to drivel - in my opnion. PLENTY of bands change members, doesn't make them not a band anymore. Plenty of bands reunited to play only OLD albums...are they not proper bands anymore? You really have to reach far to avoud that Prince is simply being a d!ck about a name. Doesn't take away from his talent. After all he's been one on many other occasions and he can still play guitar (maybe it explains his newer music tho...imo...

[Edited 11/4/11 17:37pm]

If you went up to a person who never heard of these guys in any incarnation or name and told them "here's Condensate and they've been together for 30 years." That person would have to backtrack 21 years before finding any more material from them. Even in their liner notes they thanked the fans for keeping the dream alive even when they wanted it to die. Their words not mine. The last circulating bootlegs came from the aborted Corporate World and that was over 2 decades ago. If you want to believe they spent all that time trying to keep it together then that's fine but it looks to me like they all had lives that had nothing to do with reuniting the original line-up until the Grammy Show. Same goes for the Fdeluxe reunion.

Also why are you talking about Prince. I didn't mention him once.

[Edited 11/4/11 17:48pm]

HonestMan13 said:

Zannaloaf said:

That's some real fine thinkin'. Too bad it just amounts to drivel - in my opnion. PLENTY of bands change members, doesn't make them not a band anymore. Plenty of bands reunited to play only OLD albums...are they not proper bands anymore? You really have to reach far to avoud that Prince is simply being a d!ck about a name. Doesn't take away from his talent. After all he's been one on many other occasions and he can still play guitar (maybe it explains his newer music tho...imo...

[Edited 11/4/11 17:37pm]

If you went up to a person who never heard of these guys in any incarnation or name and told them "here's Condensate and they've been together for 30 years." That person would have to backtrack 21 years before finding any more material from them. Even in their liner notes they thanked the fans for keeping the dream alive even when they wanted it to die. Their words not mine. The last circulating bootlegs came from the aborted Corporate World and that was over 2 decades ago. If you want to believe they spent all that time trying to keep it together then that's fine but it looks to me like they all had lives that had nothing to do with reuniting the original line-up until the Grammy Show. Same goes for the Fdeluxe reunion.

Also why are you talking about Prince. I didn't mention him once.

[Edited 11/4/11 17:48pm]

Because its Prince's fault haha. even in this case where your discussion has nothing to do with him.

HonestMan13 said:

phunkdaddy said:

They have been a band. It just hasn't been the original band. Morris has been touring with Jellybean, Jerome, and Monte, and a few other replacements since 1994 as Morris Day & the Time. So they have kept the music and the band's name alive all this time and they

have been very popular when the old school revival hit in the early nineties. They have

been doing it without having to release new material much like Maze and Frankie Beverly.

All the old school r&b groups over the years have been touring without all the original

members. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis demands were such they couldn't continue full time

not to mention they had a deal with A&M forthcoming to start their own label. The acts on

Jimmy and Terry's A&M Perspective label alone had more hits than the acts on P's Paisley

Park label.

The line-up you referred to that is "lovingly" referred to on here as 'Half-Time' and 'Part-Time' were stage musicians taught to play the tracks and nothing more. Basically the same thing as all of the Purple Rain replacements(and we know how Morris felt about them). They recorded no new music and basically only served to keep Morris Day's career afloat(so much so that they played BB Kings in NYC only little more than 2 months before Condensate was released). The O7 have not been a band since 1990 and only at that Grammy performance with Rihanna. Morris and Jerome have popped up as a duo at some Prince gigs but that's it. When your members are off doing other things and not even concerned with the rest of the group then you're not a band at that time. It's more accurate to say they reunited for this than to imply they were all sitting in a studio together for 2 decades coming up with this CD. Just my opinion.

Of course the musicians that weren't original Time members are taught to play

the tracks. Isn't that the case with all bands from the 70's and 80's. One thing that is lost

on you some musicians are so good it doesn't take much to learn the music. You just going

in circles saying the same thing we already know. We know the original members haven't played

in 2 decades. For those that didn't know it clearly states that on the cd packaging so what's the point of stating it over. Morris, Jellybean, and Monte have been keeping the group's music

alive during the 90's. No one implied that they made new music or had plans to . That has nothing to do with touring and getting paid for the music that the core members made popular.

It's the case with Maze, EWF, ConFunkshun, the Barkays, S.O.S Band, Cameo, etc.

phunkdaddy said:

HonestMan13 said:

The line-up you referred to that is "lovingly" referred to on here as 'Half-Time' and 'Part-Time' were stage musicians taught to play the tracks and nothing more. Basically the same thing as all of the Purple Rain replacements(and we know how Morris felt about them). They recorded no new music and basically only served to keep Morris Day's career afloat(so much so that they played BB Kings in NYC only little more than 2 months before Condensate was released). The O7 have not been a band since 1990 and only at that Grammy performance with Rihanna. Morris and Jerome have popped up as a duo at some Prince gigs but that's it. When your members are off doing other things and not even concerned with the rest of the group then you're not a band at that time. It's more accurate to say they reunited for this than to imply they were all sitting in a studio together for 2 decades coming up with this CD. Just my opinion.

Of course the musicians that weren't original Time members are taught to play

the tracks. Isn't that the case with all bands from the 70's and 80's. One thing that is lost

on you some musicians are so good it doesn't take much to learn the music. You just going

in circles saying the same thing we already know. We know the original members haven't played

in 2 decades. For those that didn't know it clearly states that on the cd packaging so what's the point of stating it over. Morris, Jellybean, and Monte have been keeping the group's music

alive during the 90's. No one implied that they made new music or had plans to . That has nothing to do with touring and getting paid for the music that the core members made popular.

It's the case with Maze, EWF, ConFunkshun, the Barkays, S.O.S Band, Cameo, etc.

I'm sorry I believed that "broken up" meant "broken up". My bad!

HonestMan13 said:

Zannaloaf said:

That's some real fine thinkin'. Too bad it just amounts to drivel - in my opnion. PLENTY of bands change members, doesn't make them not a band anymore. Plenty of bands reunited to play only OLD albums...are they not proper bands anymore? You really have to reach far to avoud that Prince is simply being a d!ck about a name. Doesn't take away from his talent. After all he's been one on many other occasions and he can still play guitar (maybe it explains his newer music tho...imo...

[Edited 11/4/11 17:37pm]

If you went up to a person who never heard of these guys in any incarnation or name and told them "here's Condensate and they've been together for 30 years." That person would have to backtrack 21 years before finding any more material from them. Even in their liner notes they thanked the fans for keeping the dream alive even when they wanted it to die. Their words not mine. The last circulating bootlegs came from the aborted Corporate World and that was over 2 decades ago. If you want to believe they spent all that time trying to keep it together then that's fine but it looks to me like they all had lives that had nothing to do with reuniting the original line-up until the Grammy Show. Same goes for the Fdeluxe reunion.

Also why are you talking about Prince. I didn't mention him once.

[Edited 11/4/11 17:48pm]

could it be because ur posts have kind of slammed the O7 almost everytime but u champion prince's work more? just imo

phunkdaddy said:

HonestMan13 said:

The line-up you referred to that is "lovingly" referred to on here as 'Half-Time' and 'Part-Time' were stage musicians taught to play the tracks and nothing more. Basically the same thing as all of the Purple Rain replacements(and we know how Morris felt about them). They recorded no new music and basically only served to keep Morris Day's career afloat(so much so that they played BB Kings in NYC only little more than 2 months before Condensate was released). The O7 have not been a band since 1990 and only at that Grammy performance with Rihanna. Morris and Jerome have popped up as a duo at some Prince gigs but that's it. When your members are off doing other things and not even concerned with the rest of the group then you're not a band at that time. It's more accurate to say they reunited for this than to imply they were all sitting in a studio together for 2 decades coming up with this CD. Just my opinion.

Of course the musicians that weren't original Time members are taught to play

the tracks. Isn't that the case with all bands from the 70's and 80's. One thing that is lost

on you some musicians are so good it doesn't take much to learn the music. You just going

in circles saying the same thing we already know. We know the original members haven't played

in 2 decades. For those that didn't know it clearly states that on the cd packaging so what's the point of stating it over. Morris, Jellybean, and Monte have been keeping the group's music

alive during the 90's. No one implied that they made new music or had plans to . That has nothing to do with touring and getting paid for the music that the core members made popular.

It's the case with Maze, EWF, ConFunkshun, the Barkays, S.O.S Band, Cameo, etc.

this so sounds like all the band members prince has had in 30 years..but that's okay tho right?

phunkdaddy said:

Mpaige63 said:

Then I hope they don't make an album in 20 more years because Morris in his pimp suit chasing chics down the hall at the old folks home is more than I could handle.

Hard to have an opinion around here that doesn't match up, eh? And Lil Wayne's #1 getting hella air play, it's commericial crap too. Money, business versus artistry.

And you made my point for me. 30 years and it's the same, exact same, music. I'm not saying any more or any less than what I've already said. People acting like this is an incredible album and that's cool. My opinion happens to be that it is a let down. I could have just pulled the old shit out. But next time the family has a barbeque I'll get it out and we'll all dance and talk about the glory days. Most likely they won't even notice it's a new album, but that's cool too.

And yet you managed to dance around my point of Dance 4 Me being a Sign of The Times era

track. I'm just not getting all your digs at Morris and 07. Will you enjoy Prince wearing his

QVC blouses and heels in 20 years bringing you more classics like Cinnamon Girl, Future Baby

Mama, and Crimson and Clover? I like Prince but outside of 3121 his cd's since Musicology

haven't exactly been anything to write home about. I also find it interesting you're saying

Condensate sounds exactly like the Time from 30 years ago. Wasn't that what P was trying to

create with the Mplsound cd from Lotusflow3r and failed?

some P fans still believe that he actually evolves with each new record.Imo,Prince hasn't done a truly inspired album since TGE.

Mpaige63 said:

babynoz said:

I dunno where you've been but VP got tons of love around here when it came out. I'm still playing it too.

My thing is that I appreciate each artist for what they bring to the table without feeling the need to make endless comparisons for no reason....Prince included. I love most of the songs people dog Prince about because I like that whole introspective, contemplative vibe he sometimes gets into.

People bitch about one artist having too many facets and then they bitch about the other artists not being faceted enough. How do y'all ever enjoy anything?

It's pretty simple for me, either I like something or I don't and I am loving the fun, party vibe of Condensate not to mention the kickass grooves the fellas put together.

I've been away from the org for years. Ain't no one bitching but stating that the lyrics are garbage. No I don't look to the Time for insightful lyrics but I also didn't expect the space of 30 years to show no signs of maturity. I get it, I get it... it's nostalgia. Just wasn't expecting a return of the exact same ole. Prince drop something tomorrow you may bitch about it but it won't be what he dropped 30 years ago.

Do you own a copy of 2010? It's a mostly awful attempt to drop the same music he did 30 years ago. What about MPLSound? It's a mostly awful attempt to drop the same music he did 30 years ago. Where is the 'maturity' in any of that music? I hear the same old bratty attitude in the lyrics. But maybe you meant the music itself was more mature. See I hear mostly ill-considered, hurried arrangements. Or even worse absolutely stiff production. Or even worse still dated production. In fact PRODUCER has never been Prince's strongest role. He's best as a writer and performer.

HonestMan13 said:

Zannaloaf said:

That's some real fine thinkin'. Too bad it just amounts to drivel - in my opnion. PLENTY of bands change members, doesn't make them not a band anymore. Plenty of bands reunited to play only OLD albums...are they not proper bands anymore? You really have to reach far to avoud that Prince is simply being a d!ck about a name. Doesn't take away from his talent. After all he's been one on many other occasions and he can still play guitar (maybe it explains his newer music tho...imo...

[Edited 11/4/11 17:37pm]

If you went up to a person who never heard of these guys in any incarnation or name and told them "here's Condensate and they've been together for 30 years." That person would have to backtrack 21 years before finding any more material from them. Even in their liner notes they thanked the fans for keeping the dream alive even when they wanted it to die. Their words not mine. The last circulating bootlegs came from the aborted Corporate World and that was over 2 decades ago. If you want to believe they spent all that time trying to keep it together then that's fine but it looks to me like they all had lives that had nothing to do with reuniting the original line-up until the Grammy Show. Same goes for the Fdeluxe reunion.

Also why are you talking about Prince. I didn't mention him once.

[Edited 11/4/11 17:48pm]

Two completely different stories. The time has been touring for over 30 years. Period. Different members yes. The Family NEVER toured and were not officially a band during that time...I neve mentioned them. that person who never heard of the Time would find find TONS of mentions of The Time playing every year ..releases are not at issue imo. I have no thought they tried to keep anything together- I am simply stating The Time has toured as a band for 30 years so they have indeed been a band. You'll use your own made up definitions of what consitutes a band to prove a point that doesn't make sense.

Zannaloaf said:

HonestMan13 said:

If you went up to a person who never heard of these guys in any incarnation or name and told them "here's Condensate and they've been together for 30 years." That person would have to backtrack 21 years before finding any more material from them. Even in their liner notes they thanked the fans for keeping the dream alive even when they wanted it to die. Their words not mine. The last circulating bootlegs came from the aborted Corporate World and that was over 2 decades ago. If you want to believe they spent all that time trying to keep it together then that's fine but it looks to me like they all had lives that had nothing to do with reuniting the original line-up until the Grammy Show. Same goes for the Fdeluxe reunion.

Also why are you talking about Prince. I didn't mention him once.

[Edited 11/4/11 17:48pm]

Two completely different stories. The time has been touring for over 30 years. Period. Different members yes. The Family NEVER toured and were not officially a band during that time...I neve mentioned them. that person who never heard of the Time would find find TONS of mentions of The Time playing every year ..releases are not at issue imo. I have no thought they tried to keep anything together- I am simply stating The Time has toured as a band for 30 years so they have indeed been a band. You'll use your own made up definitions of what consitutes a band to prove a point that doesn't make sense.

So if I hire Jerome Benton to carry a mirror and 6 other random dudes to play instruments and sing they can tour as Jerome Benton & The Time and it's still the same band? Got it! Consider me schooled!

Mpaige63 said: Prince drop something tomorrow you may bitch about it but it won't be what he dropped 30 years ago.

Have you skipped the last decade? Virtually every release since, and including, Musicology has been a retread of previously covered ground for Prince. It was bad enough when he just insisted on playing the same old hits over and over again in concert. The last several albums seem to indicate he wants to do it on record, too.

Zannaloaf said:

HonestMan13 said:

If you went up to a person who never heard of these guys in any incarnation or name and told them "here's Condensate and they've been together for 30 years." That person would have to backtrack 21 years before finding any more material from them. Even in their liner notes they thanked the fans for keeping the dream alive even when they wanted it to die. Their words not mine. The last circulating bootlegs came from the aborted Corporate World and that was over 2 decades ago. If you want to believe they spent all that time trying to keep it together then that's fine but it looks to me like they all had lives that had nothing to do with reuniting the original line-up until the Grammy Show. Same goes for the Fdeluxe reunion.

Also why are you talking about Prince. I didn't mention him once.

[Edited 11/4/11 17:48pm]

Two completely different stories. The time has been touring for over 30 years. Period. Different members yes. The Family NEVER toured and were not officially a band during that time...I neve mentioned them. that person who never heard of the Time would find find TONS of mentions of The Time playing every year ..releases are not at issue imo. I have no thought they tried to keep anything together- I am simply stating The Time has toured as a band for 30 years so they have indeed been a band. You'll use your own made up definitions of what consitutes a band to prove a point that doesn't make sense.

Idk, I think if you ask the Original 7ven about the Time band touring for 30 years you may get a different answer because it obviously is a band but it wasnt them....really...I guess.

[Edited 11/5/11 23:49pm]

funksterr said:

...In fact PRODUCER has never been Prince's strongest role. He's best as a writer and performer.

wonder505 said:

Zannaloaf said:

Two completely different stories. The time has been touring for over 30 years. Period. Different members yes. The Family NEVER toured and were not officially a band during that time...I neve mentioned them. that person who never heard of the Time would find find TONS of mentions of The Time playing every year ..releases are not at issue imo. I have no thought they tried to keep anything together- I am simply stating The Time has toured as a band for 30 years so they have indeed been a band. You'll use your own made up definitions of what consitutes a band to prove a point that doesn't make sense.

Idk, I think if you ask the Original 7ven about the Time band touring for 30 years you may get a different answer because it obviously is a band but it wasnt them....really...I guess.

[Edited 11/5/11 23:49pm]

You seem to understand the point I was trying to make.

but i give props 2 tori ruffin and freeze on the bass tho

HonestMan13 said:

Zannaloaf said:

Two completely different stories. The time has been touring for over 30 years. Period. Different members yes. The Family NEVER toured and were not officially a band during that time...I neve mentioned them. that person who never heard of the Time would find find TONS of mentions of The Time playing every year ..releases are not at issue imo. I have no thought they tried to keep anything together- I am simply stating The Time has toured as a band for 30 years so they have indeed been a band. You'll use your own made up definitions of what consitutes a band to prove a point that doesn't make sense.

So if I hire Jerome Benton to carry a mirror and 6 other random dudes to play instruments and sing they can tour as Jerome Benton & The Time and it's still the same band? Got it! Consider me schooled!

What part of it's Morris band don't you understand? Morris put the band together

from day one. If it's him and a few core members it's still the Time. Period!

HonestMan13 said:

Zannaloaf said:

Two completely different stories. The time has been touring for over 30 years. Period. Different members yes. The Family NEVER toured and were not officially a band during that time...I neve mentioned them. that person who never heard of the Time would find find TONS of mentions of The Time playing every year ..releases are not at issue imo. I have no thought they tried to keep anything together- I am simply stating The Time has toured as a band for 30 years so they have indeed been a band. You'll use your own made up definitions of what consitutes a band to prove a point that doesn't make sense.

So if I hire Jerome Benton to carry a mirror and 6 other random dudes to play instruments and sing they can tour as Jerome Benton & The Time and it's still the same band? Got it! Consider me schooled!

Let me see - Tempatians still touring...yep. Fout Tops...yep. I believe all or most of the original memebers are dead. Yet they still tour. So yes. Tho I wasn't implying that at all. Hell- even Styx and Journey tour under those names without their signature lead singers.

So you actully were schooled.

Zannaloaf said:

HonestMan13 said:

So if I hire Jerome Benton to carry a mirror and 6 other random dudes to play instruments and sing they can tour as Jerome Benton & The Time and it's still the same band? Got it! Consider me schooled!

Let me see - Tempatians still touring...yep. Fout Tops...yep. I believe all or most of the original memebers are dead. Yet they still tour. So yes. Tho I wasn't implying that at all. Hell- even Styx and Journey tour under those names without their signature lead singers.

So you actully were schooled.

Thanks! Now I know what I'll be doing in the summer of 2013.

HonestMan13 said:

Zannaloaf said:

Let me see - Tempatians still touring...yep. Fout Tops...yep. I believe all or most of the original memebers are dead. Yet they still tour. So yes. Tho I wasn't implying that at all. Hell- even Styx and Journey tour under those names without their signature lead singers.

So you actully were schooled.

Thanks! Now I know what I'll be doing in the summer of 2013.

seeing prince do the same shit he's been doing since the musicology tour? oh wait he can't do raspberry beret without the revolution now otherwise it's NOT raspberry beret ya know?

or as it seems the revolution is getting back 2gether in february so if sir terry casey happens 2 hop up on stage and sing kiss it's now Sir Terry Casey and the revolution right?

i get it T u don't like the new time album and u will stick up 4 prince no matter what, that's cool but damn ur really going out of ur way 2 spit on anyone who is really digging this album more than anything prince has done in several years

Steely Dan started out with 6 members, but wound up being Becker & Fagen with session musicians.

L4OATheOriginal said:

HonestMan13 said:

Thanks! Now I know what I'll be doing in the summer of 2013.

seeing prince do the same shit he's been doing since the musicology tour? oh wait he can't do raspberry beret without the revolution now otherwise it's NOT raspberry beret ya know?

or as it seems the revolution is getting back 2gether in february so if sir terry casey happens 2 hop up on stage and sing kiss it's now Sir Terry Casey and the revolution right?

i get it T u don't like the new time album and u will stick up 4 prince no matter what, that's cool but damn ur really going out of ur way 2 spit on anyone who is really digging this album more than anything prince has done in several years

Just a correction, I went to four of the 3121 concerts and they are not the same as the Musicology tour

wonder505 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

seeing prince do the same shit he's been doing since the musicology tour? oh wait he can't do raspberry beret without the revolution now otherwise it's NOT raspberry beret ya know?

or as it seems the revolution is getting back 2gether in february so if sir terry casey happens 2 hop up on stage and sing kiss it's now Sir Terry Casey and the revolution right?

i get it T u don't like the new time album and u will stick up 4 prince no matter what, that's cool but damn ur really going out of ur way 2 spit on anyone who is really digging this album more than anything prince has done in several years

Just a correction, I went to four of the 3121 concerts and they are not the same as the Musicology tour

Overall, he's been the doing the same ol' shit since 2004!!

wonder505 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

seeing prince do the same shit he's been doing since the musicology tour? oh wait he can't do raspberry beret without the revolution now otherwise it's NOT raspberry beret ya know?

or as it seems the revolution is getting back 2gether in february so if sir terry casey happens 2 hop up on stage and sing kiss it's now Sir Terry Casey and the revolution right?

i get it T u don't like the new time album and u will stick up 4 prince no matter what, that's cool but damn ur really going out of ur way 2 spit on anyone who is really digging this album more than anything prince has done in several years

Just a correction, I went to four of the 3121 concerts and they are not the same as the Musicology tour

the concerts in vegas? hmmm let's see 5 songs from 3121 were played the rest, hits material ...musicology tour ..5 songs during the whole entire tour from musicology were played ..02 arena tour ..5 songs from planet earth were played during a course of 21 concerts ...

what am i missing here?

L4OATheOriginal said:

wonder505 said:

Just a correction, I went to four of the 3121 concerts and they are not the same as the Musicology tour

the concerts in vegas? hmmm let's see 5 songs from 3121 were played the rest, hits material ...musicology tour ..5 songs during the whole entire tour from musicology were played ..02 arena tour ..5 songs from planet earth were played during a course of 21 concerts ...

what am i missing here?

What is so unusual about that? don't most artist plays some tracks from their new material and a mixture of hits. At least from the concerts I attend (maxwell, erykah badu, janet, sade, etc). The vegas tours had a much different vibe than musicology to me. The styles from the hornz section from mike phillips, greg boyer and lee hogans were different than maceo, candy and well greg boyer. I actually preferred shows from that era. i actually thought you meant he plays the same exact songs over with no new material. I guess you don't want any hits played whatsover...oh well.

From what I gather I don't see what O7 is doing that is so different either. Playing only new song after two or three shows correct? I will hold judgement until their upcoming shows, plus it wouldnt bother me anyway, i still plan on seeing them.

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