phunkdaddy said:

babynoz said:

It was one gattdamn song...wtf is wrong with you mofos? Sounding like a bunch of cranky ass old ladies?

Wow you went in.

LOL! I just wonder what peeps expect from one song on a late night talk show? There just ain't a whole lot you can do within that limited format.

It was good for what it was but I can't recall ever seeing sombody appear on Leno and thinking it was one of their better performances.

babynoz said:

phunkdaddy said:

Wow you went in.

LOL! I just wonder what peeps expect from one song on a late night talk show? There just ain't a whole lot you can do within that limited format.

It was good for what it was but I can't recall ever seeing sombody appear on Leno and thinking it was one of their better performances.

Folks are up in these 07ven threads trippin. You know they just looking for something to bitch

and be negative about. It's one thing if the group aren't your cup of tea but looking for stupid

ass shit like the play on their new name. Why the fuck would someone take the time to bitch

about how it looks 7ven? Can you believe we have dumb asses up in here writing it down

saying it looks like sevenven? Wow and i thought members of the tea party were slow.

[Edited 10/31/11 19:25pm]

phunkdaddy said:

babynoz said:

LOL! I just wonder what peeps expect from one song on a late night talk show? There just ain't a whole lot you can do within that limited format.

It was good for what it was but I can't recall ever seeing sombody appear on Leno and thinking it was one of their better performances.

Folks are up in these 07ven threads trippin. You know they just looking for something to bitch

and be negative about. It's one thing if the group aren't your cup of tea but looking for stupid

ass shit like the play on their new name. Why the fuck would someone take the time to bitch

about how it looks 7ven? Can you believe we have dumb asses up in here writing it down

saying it looks like sevenven? Wow and i thought members of the tea party were slow.

[Edited 10/31/11 19:25pm]

Spot on. If peeps don't happen to like the cd then so be it...but there's a whole lotta reaching going on up in these threads.

babynoz said:

MickyDolenz said:

So what? Weird Al is in his 50's and still does the same kind of songs he's always done. It's just a record. It's not that serious.

I agree, people need to give it a rest sometimes.

Like I said, this was one damned song and I don't know of any act where people have said they had their best performance on Leno for chrissakes,

As for Jesse not getting camera time, don't people realize that the damned camera man don't know Jesse Johnson from Jesse Jackson??? Sheesh!

"As for Jesse not getting camera time, don't people realize that the damned camera man don't know Jesse Johnson from Jesse Jackson??? Sheesh!"

Damn, that was funny, babynoz!!

babynoz said:

phunkdaddy said:

Folks are up in these 07ven threads trippin. You know they just looking for something to bitch

and be negative about. It's one thing if the group aren't your cup of tea but looking for stupid

ass shit like the play on their new name. Why the fuck would someone take the time to bitch

about how it looks 7ven? Can you believe we have dumb asses up in here writing it down

saying it looks like sevenven? Wow and i thought members of the tea party were slow.

[Edited 10/31/11 19:25pm]

Spot on. If peeps don't happen to like the cd then so be it...but there's a whole lotta reaching going on up in these threads.

Lotta reaching---always! You on a roll!

NewPowerSista said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

NewPowerSista said:

"As for Jesse not getting camera time, don't people realize that the damned camera man don't know Jesse Johnson from Jesse Jackson??? Sheesh!"

Damn, that was funny, babynoz!!

Lol they probably don't even know Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis are in the band.

Right? Why would people assume that Leno's staff would know who to focus on??? None of them are orgers as far as I know.

babynoz said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

NewPowerSista said: Lol they probably don't even know Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis are in the band.

Right? Why would people assume that Leno's staff would know who to focus on???

None of them are orgers as far as I know.

Well, they should be.

Mpaige63 said:

Zannaloaf said:

That guy? lol.

Now I remember the org days and the mindset lmao. Tweetie Pies? These guys are in their 50's take it up a level.

You dog Prince for his latest music but praise Condensate? I searched the threads, no one talking with vigor over Verbal Penetration and that was an album with FUNK blues and meaningful lyrical content.

I don't blame Jesse, I'd keep my hat down while playing with these dudes too. Monte and Gary are cool as hell and respect their talents.

Wasn't there a song on the CD that actually said my faithful is not your faithful? I can see it doing well in today's 'charts' because it belongs in the same bin as the other garbage on the airwaves.

Yo Shit is Sick.

Did you ever listen to a Time album before? In the past,they have done songs like "The Bird","The Walk","My Drawers" and "Chili Sauce".....these are hardly songs with deep,meaningful lyrical content.They have always been a 'party band' specializing in funk music.You want deep lyrics? Go buy a U2 album.You want blues? Go listen to B.B.King.You're not gonna get those things on a Time/Original 7ven album.These guys have a playa/pimp image....they're not here to save the world.

^^^But here's the thing SoulAlive (and I'll acknowledge that I am playing both sides here), there is an art to having the right combination of nostalgia, relevance and maturity. For instance, I always disagree with Orgers who say Prince should return to his 1999, Purple Rain, SOTT sound. He shouldn't. He should always be progressing because no normal person is the same that they were even three years ago, let alone thirty.

That said, I do agree that we have to cut O7 some slack because the nature of The Time has always been this über-cool, nonchalant, flamboyant, playa/pimp funk band. If you lose that, then you lose your core audience.....or do you? Haven't us fans grown since the 80s and don't we look at life differently than we did back then? So, why shouldn't we expect that bands who have grown with us to show some signs of maturity in their lyrical content? They don't need to save the world, but maybe they can ease up on the Gohometoyoman-type messages.

SoulAlive said:

Mpaige63 said:

Now I remember the org days and the mindset lmao. Tweetie Pies? These guys are in their 50's take it up a level.

You dog Prince for his latest music but praise Condensate? I searched the threads, no one talking with vigor over Verbal Penetration and that was an album with FUNK blues and meaningful lyrical content.

I don't blame Jesse, I'd keep my hat down while playing with these dudes too. Monte and Gary are cool as hell and respect their talents.

Wasn't there a song on the CD that actually said my faithful is not your faithful? I can see it doing well in today's 'charts' because it belongs in the same bin as the other garbage on the airwaves.

Yo Shit is Sick.

Did you ever listen to a Time album before? In the past,they have done songs like "The Bird","The Walk","My Drawers" and "Chili Sauce".....these are hardly songs with deep,meaningful lyrical content.They have always been a 'party band' specializing in funk music.You want deep lyrics? Go buy a U2 album.You want blues? Go listen to B.B.King.You're not gonna get those things on a Time/Original 7ven album.These guys have a playa/pimp image....they're not here to save the world.

There most serious tune may have been "Ice Cream Castles" and it was still about gettin women.

babynoz said:

It was one gattdamn song...wtf is wrong with you mofos? Sounding like a bunch of cranky ass old ladies?

babynoz said:

As for Jesse not getting camera time, don't people realize that the damned camera man don't know Jesse Johnson from Jesse Jackson??? Sheesh!

The truth in that statement just made me a little sad...

[Edited 11/2/11 15:49pm]

BlaqueKnight said:

babynoz said:

As for Jesse not getting camera time, don't people realize that the damned camera man don't know Jesse Johnson from Jesse Jackson??? Sheesh!

The truth in that statement just made me a little sad...

[Edited 11/2/11 15:49pm]

I sowwy...

MickyDolenz said:

Mpaige63 said:

These guys are in their 50's take it up a level.

So what? Weird Al is in his 50's and still does the same kind of songs he's always done. It's just a record. It's not that serious.

Weird Al? Wtf? That is your comparison?

babynoz said:

Mpaige63 said:

Now I remember the org days and the mindset lmao. Tweetie Pies? These guys are in their 50's take it up a level.

You dog Prince for his latest music but praise Condensate? I searched the threads, no one talking with vigor over Verbal Penetration and that was an album with FUNK blues and meaningful lyrical content.

I don't blame Jesse, I'd keep my hat down while playing with these dudes too. Monte and Gary are cool as hell and respect their talents.

Wasn't there a song on the CD that actually said my faithful is not your faithful? I can see it doing well in today's 'charts' because it belongs in the same bin as the other garbage on the airwaves.

Yo Shit is Sick.

I dunno where you've been but VP got tons of love around here when it came out. I'm still playing it too.

My thing is that I appreciate each artist for what they bring to the table without feeling the need to make endless comparisons for no reason....Prince included. I love most of the songs people dog Prince about because I like that whole introspective, contemplative vibe he sometimes gets into.

People bitch about one artist having too many facets and then they bitch about the other artists not being faceted enough. How do y'all ever enjoy anything?

It's pretty simple for me, either I like something or I don't and I am loving the fun, party vibe of Condensate not to mention the kickass grooves the fellas put together.

I've been away from the org for years. Ain't no one bitching but stating that the lyrics are garbage. No I don't look to the Time for insightful lyrics but I also didn't expect the space of 30 years to show no signs of maturity. I get it, I get it... it's nostalgia. Just wasn't expecting a return of the exact same ole. Prince drop something tomorrow you may bitch about it but it won't be what he dropped 30 years ago.

Mpaige63 said:

babynoz said:

I dunno where you've been but VP got tons of love around here when it came out. I'm still playing it too.

My thing is that I appreciate each artist for what they bring to the table without feeling the need to make endless comparisons for no reason....Prince included. I love most of the songs people dog Prince about because I like that whole introspective, contemplative vibe he sometimes gets into.

People bitch about one artist having too many facets and then they bitch about the other artists not being faceted enough. How do y'all ever enjoy anything?

It's pretty simple for me, either I like something or I don't and I am loving the fun, party vibe of Condensate not to mention the kickass grooves the fellas put together.

I've been away from the org for years. Ain't no one bitching but stating that the lyrics are garbage. No I don't look to the Time for insightful lyrics but I also didn't expect the space of 30 years to show no signs of maturity. I get it, I get it... it's nostalgia. Just wasn't expecting a return of the exact same ole. Prince drop something tomorrow you may bitch about it but it won't be what he dropped 30 years ago.

Mpaige63 said:

babynoz said:

I dunno where you've been but VP got tons of love around here when it came out. I'm still playing it too.

My thing is that I appreciate each artist for what they bring to the table without feeling the need to make endless comparisons for no reason....Prince included. I love most of the songs people dog Prince about because I like that whole introspective, contemplative vibe he sometimes gets into.

People bitch about one artist having too many facets and then they bitch about the other artists not being faceted enough. How do y'all ever enjoy anything?

It's pretty simple for me, either I like something or I don't and I am loving the fun, party vibe of Condensate not to mention the kickass grooves the fellas put together.

I've been away from the org for years. Ain't no one bitching but stating that the lyrics are garbage. No I don't look to the Time for insightful lyrics but I also didn't expect the space of 30 years to show no signs of maturity. I get it, I get it... it's nostalgia. Just wasn't expecting a return of the exact same ole. Prince drop something tomorrow you may bitch about it but it won't be what he dropped 30 years ago.

He dropped Lotusflow3r and even he stated on Tavis Smiley he could not understand how

it wasn't getting any airplay. You're telling me Dance 4 Me wasn't a Sign of the Times era

song. It probably was the one song on the album that should have gotten airplay. Now

like the 07 new album or not at least Trendin is getting some airplay. The band is being

themselves it's worked for 3 decades so it's no need to change who they are. They've done

that with their own individual projects.

phunkdaddy said:

Mpaige63 said:

I've been away from the org for years. Ain't no one bitching but stating that the lyrics are garbage. No I don't look to the Time for insightful lyrics but I also didn't expect the space of 30 years to show no signs of maturity. I get it, I get it... it's nostalgia. Just wasn't expecting a return of the exact same ole. Prince drop something tomorrow you may bitch about it but it won't be what he dropped 30 years ago.

He dropped Lotusflow3r and even he stated on Tavis Smiley he could not understand how

it wasn't getting any airplay. You're telling me Dance 4 Me wasn't a Sign of the Times era

song. It probably was the one song on the album that should have gotten airplay. Now

like the 07 new album or not at least Trendin is getting some airplay. The band is being

themselves it's worked for 3 decades so it's no need to change who they are. They've done

that with their own individual projects.

Then I hope they don't make an album in 20 more years because Morris in his pimp suit chasing chics down the hall at the old folks home is more than I could handle.

Hard to have an opinion around here that doesn't match up, eh? And Lil Wayne's #1 getting hella air play, it's commericial crap too. Money, business versus artistry.

And you made my point for me. 30 years and it's the same, exact same, music. I'm not saying any more or any less than what I've already said. People acting like this is an incredible album and that's cool. My opinion happens to be that it is a let down. I could have just pulled the old shit out. But next time the family has a barbeque I'll get it out and we'll all dance and talk about the glory days. Most likely they won't even notice it's a new album, but that's cool too.

Well, maybe they will put out a nice Rihanna-styled techno/hip-hop album just for you...complete with guest rappers.

Mpaige63 said:

babynoz said:

I dunno where you've been but VP got tons of love around here when it came out. I'm still playing it too.

My thing is that I appreciate each artist for what they bring to the table without feeling the need to make endless comparisons for no reason....Prince included. I love most of the songs people dog Prince about because I like that whole introspective, contemplative vibe he sometimes gets into.

People bitch about one artist having too many facets and then they bitch about the other artists not being faceted enough. How do y'all ever enjoy anything?

It's pretty simple for me, either I like something or I don't and I am loving the fun, party vibe of Condensate not to mention the kickass grooves the fellas put together.

I've been away from the org for years. Ain't no one bitching but stating that the lyrics are garbage. No I don't look to the Time for insightful lyrics but I also didn't expect the space of 30 years to show no signs of maturity. I get it, I get it... it's nostalgia. Just wasn't expecting a return of the exact same ole. Prince drop something tomorrow you may bitch about it but it won't be what he dropped 30 years ago.

yeah u right cause if 30 years ago prince would have dropped a lame ass album like planet earth and 20ten he would have been written off the map. so like i say 4 those that aren't digging condensate it's cool, y'all can have PE and 20 ten 2 bob ur heads to. oh wait ..what songs from there on a CONSTANT TRACK BY TRACK can u do that to? so if act of god is your cup of tea have at it..i'll be at the hotel with the biggest ball room coping all the stellas

phunkdaddy said:

Mpaige63 said:

I've been away from the org for years. Ain't no one bitching but stating that the lyrics are garbage. No I don't look to the Time for insightful lyrics but I also didn't expect the space of 30 years to show no signs of maturity. I get it, I get it... it's nostalgia. Just wasn't expecting a return of the exact same ole. Prince drop something tomorrow you may bitch about it but it won't be what he dropped 30 years ago.

He dropped Lotusflow3r and even he stated on Tavis Smiley he could not understand how

it wasn't getting any airplay. You're telling me Dance 4 Me wasn't a Sign of the Times era

song. It probably was the one song on the album that should have gotten airplay. Now

like the 07 new album or not at least Trendin is getting some airplay. The band is being

themselves it's worked for 3 decades so it's no need to change who they are. They've done

that with their own individual projects.

the reason is very simple and it's been prince's line of thinking for years, "u mean i make the music and then i have to PROMOTE IT? u mean i have 2 go out on tour and NOT do my new songs so that people realize i have new material?"

The O7 cd is perfect. They don't need to change a thing!! I LOVE IT!!

Mpaige63 said:

babynoz said:

I dunno where you've been but VP got tons of love around here when it came out. I'm still playing it too.

My thing is that I appreciate each artist for what they bring to the table without feeling the need to make endless comparisons for no reason....Prince included. I love most of the songs people dog Prince about because I like that whole introspective, contemplative vibe he sometimes gets into.

People bitch about one artist having too many facets and then they bitch about the other artists not being faceted enough. How do y'all ever enjoy anything?

It's pretty simple for me, either I like something or I don't and I am loving the fun, party vibe of Condensate not to mention the kickass grooves the fellas put together.

I've been away from the org for years. Ain't no one bitching but stating that the lyrics are garbage. No I don't look to the Time for insightful lyrics but I also didn't expect the space of 30 years to show no signs of maturity. I get it, I get it... it's nostalgia. Just wasn't expecting a return of the exact same ole. Prince drop something tomorrow you may bitch about it but it won't be what he dropped 30 years ago.

Like I said, either I like something or I don't. I loved Lotusflower but wasn't that fond of 20ten...the difference is that me not liking it does not make it garbage.

There is a difference is having an opinion and being opinionated.

L4OATheOriginal said:

the reason is very simple and it's been prince's line of thinking for years, "u mean i make the music and then i have to PROMOTE IT? u mean i have 2 go out on tour and NOT do my new songs so that people realize i have new material?"

Touring doesn't really have to do anything with radio play though. There's way more performers doing concerts than getting airplay. Prince would need promotional money (aka payola) to get on the radio. That was Warner Brothers job. Target and newspapers are not in the music promotion or radio business. At this point Prince is not likely to get radio play anyway, except maybe on an "urban adult" station. They'll play new music by older acts, but it's usually slow jams or mid tempo music.

MickyDolenz said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

the reason is very simple and it's been prince's line of thinking for years, "u mean i make the music and then i have to PROMOTE IT? u mean i have 2 go out on tour and NOT do my new songs so that people realize i have new material?"

Touring doesn't really have to do anything with radio play though. There's way more performers doing concerts than getting airplay. Prince would need promotional money (aka payola) to get on the radio. That was Warner Brothers job. Target and newspapers are not in the music promotion or radio business. At this point Prince is not likely to get radio play anyway, except maybe on an "urban adult" station. They'll play new music by older acts, but it's usually slow jams or mid tempo music.

exactly target has no relationship with radio and paylo is always needed to get on radio and also the marketing muscle of the labels they know who to bribe

Mpaige63 said:

phunkdaddy said:

He dropped Lotusflow3r and even he stated on Tavis Smiley he could not understand how

it wasn't getting any airplay. You're telling me Dance 4 Me wasn't a Sign of the Times era

song. It probably was the one song on the album that should have gotten airplay. Now

like the 07 new album or not at least Trendin is getting some airplay. The band is being

themselves it's worked for 3 decades so it's no need to change who they are. They've done

that with their own individual projects.

Then I hope they don't make an album in 20 more years because Morris in his pimp suit chasing chics down the hall at the old folks home is more than I could handle.

Hard to have an opinion around here that doesn't match up, eh? And Lil Wayne's #1 getting hella air play, it's commericial crap too. Money, business versus artistry.

And you made my point for me. 30 years and it's the same, exact same, music. I'm not saying any more or any less than what I've already said. People acting like this is an incredible album and that's cool. My opinion happens to be that it is a let down. I could have just pulled the old shit out. But next time the family has a barbeque I'll get it out and we'll all dance and talk about the glory days. Most likely they won't even notice it's a new album, but that's cool too.

And yet you managed to dance around my point of Dance 4 Me being a Sign of The Times era

track. I'm just not getting all your digs at Morris and 07. Will you enjoy Prince wearing his

QVC blouses and heels in 20 years bringing you more classics like Cinnamon Girl, Future Baby

Mama, and Crimson and Clover? I like Prince but outside of 3121 his cd's since Musicology

haven't exactly been anything to write home about. I also find it interesting you're saying

Condensate sounds exactly like the Time from 30 years ago. Wasn't that what P was trying to

create with the Mplsound cd from Lotusflow3r and failed?

phunkdaddy said:

Mpaige63 said:

Then I hope they don't make an album in 20 more years because Morris in his pimp suit chasing chics down the hall at the old folks home is more than I could handle.

Hard to have an opinion around here that doesn't match up, eh? And Lil Wayne's #1 getting hella air play, it's commericial crap too. Money, business versus artistry.

And you made my point for me. 30 years and it's the same, exact same, music. I'm not saying any more or any less than what I've already said. People acting like this is an incredible album and that's cool. My opinion happens to be that it is a let down. I could have just pulled the old shit out. But next time the family has a barbeque I'll get it out and we'll all dance and talk about the glory days. Most likely they won't even notice it's a new album, but that's cool too.

And yet you managed to dance around my point of Dance 4 Me being a Sign of The Times era

track. I'm just not getting all your digs at Morris and 07. Will you enjoy Prince wearing his

QVC blouses and heels in 20 years bringing you more classics like Cinnamon Girl, Future Baby

Mama, and Crimson and Clover? I like Prince but outside of 3121 his cd's since Musicology

haven't exactly been anything to write home about. I also find it interesting you're saying

Condensate sounds exactly like the Time from 30 years ago. Wasn't that what P was trying to

create with the Mplsound cd from Lotusflow3r and failed?

Oh my damn!

asg said:

MickyDolenz said:

Touring doesn't really have to do anything with radio play though. There's way more performers doing concerts than getting airplay. Prince would need promotional money (aka payola) to get on the radio. That was Warner Brothers job. Target and newspapers are not in the music promotion or radio business. At this point Prince is not likely to get radio play anyway, except maybe on an "urban adult" station. They'll play new music by older acts, but it's usually slow jams or mid tempo music.

exactly target has no relationship with radio and paylo is always needed to get on radio and also the marketing muscle of the labels they know who to bribe

this is true 2 an extent. at this time and age hearing a new prince song on the radio isn't likely 2 happen and because of that, whn he plays a new song in concert, unless ur a die hard u don't know the song mainly because it's not "popular" due 2 lack of airplay, sales whatever. Prince has 2 rely on word of mouth now but even that doesn't help as much as it should. so does marketing have 2 be done in prince's case? absolutely but he doesn't have the motivation 2 do it so again that quote about wondering why a song of his isn't on the radio, well look no further than the mirror.

phunkdaddy said:

Mpaige63 said:

Then I hope they don't make an album in 20 more years because Morris in his pimp suit chasing chics down the hall at the old folks home is more than I could handle.

Hard to have an opinion around here that doesn't match up, eh? And Lil Wayne's #1 getting hella air play, it's commericial crap too. Money, business versus artistry.

And you made my point for me. 30 years and it's the same, exact same, music. I'm not saying any more or any less than what I've already said. People acting like this is an incredible album and that's cool. My opinion happens to be that it is a let down. I could have just pulled the old shit out. But next time the family has a barbeque I'll get it out and we'll all dance and talk about the glory days. Most likely they won't even notice it's a new album, but that's cool too.

And yet you managed to dance around my point of Dance 4 Me being a Sign of The Times era

track. I'm just not getting all your digs at Morris and 07. Will you enjoy Prince wearing his

QVC blouses and heels in 20 years bringing you more classics like Cinnamon Girl, Future Baby

Mama, and Crimson and Clover? I like Prince but outside of 3121 his cd's since Musicology

haven't exactly been anything to write home about. I also find it interesting you're saying

Condensate sounds exactly like the Time from 30 years ago. Wasn't that what P was trying to

create with the Mplsound cd from Lotusflow3r and failed?

how many times on this site alone have people been wanting prince 2 sound like he did 30 years ago? YOUNT

but it's okay that prince does but the time can't?