Mpaige63 said:

Jesse is underrated and most people do not even know who he is unless they are part of the community and over the age of 45. Gotta get that dough I know but brother should be on his own supporting his album. Verbal Penetration is 100 times the record Condensate is, the lyrics are shit. I joined the org again hyped about the release. What a letdown. Morris should stick with the fair performances.

verbel penetration never charted niether did the album back from '96. jesse is dependent on the time i guess

No that arrangement didn't work. It fell flat. They can do much better than that.

Mpaige63 said:

These guys are in their 50's take it up a level.

So what? Weird Al is in his 50's and still does the same kind of songs he's always done. It's just a record. It's not that serious.

Rhastus said:

minneapolisFunq said:

Please tell me how often The Time have transitioned into Cool for a brief moment only to return to the song they were playing before?

I would have to guess never (I could be wrong here), seeing how Cool is arguably their most popular song and they always play a full version of it live (albeit a shorter 'radio cut' version).

They stole that from the song 100 MPH, which was crafted after all ties were severed between the group and Prince. Riffing on Cool during that song was a staple of Mazarati's live performances.

Swagger jackers.

+ Watching it again with headphones on I could hear Terry's bass a lot better and I still liked Morris' vocals for the most part. The close up on the backup singers shortly after the one minute mark was just laughable imo. Like, who the fuck are these bitches?!!?! We want Jesse! Although he did look a bit uninterested when he was visible. I can't blame him, I wouldn't want to be there promoting that album either.

Dude you seriously need to lay off the crack

For fuckin' real!!

Rhastus, unless I missed it, I haven't seen your review of the new CD! I'm definitely interested in hearing your take on everything that's goin' on!

Mpaige63 said:

Zannaloaf said:

That guy? lol.

Now I remember the org days and the mindset lmao. Tweetie Pies? These guys are in their 50's take it up a level.

You dog Prince for his latest music but praise Condensate? I searched the threads, no one talking with vigor over Verbal Penetration and that was an album with FUNK blues and meaningful lyrical content.

I don't blame Jesse, I'd keep my hat down while playing with these dudes too. Monte and Gary are cool as hell and respect their talents.

Wasn't there a song on the CD that actually said my faithful is not your faithful? I can see it doing well in today's 'charts' because it belongs in the same bin as the other garbage on the airwaves.

Yo Shit is Sick.

I loved Jesses album (minus the interludes)...said so on the Org too.

Just watched it and thought it was a good performance. not great. But I thought Princes performances (for comparison sake- he is a GREAT performer live) were mediocre in pats...but he had several nights to ge tthe really good ones he had. If you guys ever watch SNL or any of the shows where nads come out and perform- often the first is so-so (even with god performaers) and the second is better. At a concert you have several songs to get yourself into it PLUS you are playing to your crowd or have time top MAKE them your crowd. I was playng it safe a bit - sound was good on my system tho I can always bump the bass and Monte's solo could have been louder. Overall it was solid and if I had never seen these guys or had not been following the since Purple Rain I would have been blown away. We know far more than the average listener about what these guys CAN do live. Jesse was playing rhythm- you rarley see focus on guitar nles it's a lead on the teevee. Def would like to see other songs live from the cd.

The sound doesn't skip on this video like the one above.

chocolate1 said:

Wow. I DVR'd it and was going to watch it when I get home tonight.

Was it THAT bad?

I just watched it... No, it wasn't bad.

Zannaloaf said:

Just watched it and thought it was a good performance. not great. But I thought Princes performances (for comparison sake- he is a GREAT performer live) were mediocre in pats...but he had several nights to ge tthe really good ones he had. If you guys ever watch SNL or any of the shows where nads come out and perform- often the first is so-so (even with god performaers) and the second is better. At a concert you have several songs to get yourself into it PLUS you are playing to your crowd or have time top MAKE them your crowd. I was playng it safe a bit - sound was good on my system tho I can always bump the bass and Monte's solo could have been louder. Overall it was solid and if I had never seen these guys or had not been following the since Purple Rain I would have been blown away. We know far more than the average listener about what these guys CAN do live. Jesse was playing rhythm- you rarley see focus on guitar nles it's a lead on the teevee. Def would like to see other songs live from the cd.

I'm not trying to compare, but Prince's performance of Fury on SNL was white hot (actually all of his SNL performances were great). Actually, I can't think of one Prince performance that was not better (much better) than O7's Leno performance. Even Prince's Leno performances were much, much, much better, and I think that as Prince performances go, the Leno shows were on the lower end. Prince is just a better performer. But then again, I think he's the greatest performer. He even knocks these youngions out of the water.

PurpleChi said:

Zannaloaf said:

Just watched it and thought it was a good performance. not great. But I thought Princes performances (for comparison sake- he is a GREAT performer live) were mediocre in pats...but he had several nights to ge tthe really good ones he had. If you guys ever watch SNL or any of the shows where nads come out and perform- often the first is so-so (even with god performaers) and the second is better. At a concert you have several songs to get yourself into it PLUS you are playing to your crowd or have time top MAKE them your crowd. I was playng it safe a bit - sound was good on my system tho I can always bump the bass and Monte's solo could have been louder. Overall it was solid and if I had never seen these guys or had not been following the since Purple Rain I would have been blown away. We know far more than the average listener about what these guys CAN do live. Jesse was playing rhythm- you rarley see focus on guitar nles it's a lead on the teevee. Def would like to see other songs live from the cd.

I'm not trying to compare, but Prince's performance of Fury on SNL was white hot (actually all of his SNL performances were great). Actually, I can't think of one Prince performance that was not better (much better) than O7's Leno performance. Even Prince's Leno performances were much, much, much better, and I think that as Prince performances go, the Leno shows were on the lower end. Prince is just a better performer. But then again, I think he's the greatest performer. He even knocks these youngions out of the water.

I liked Fury...but I recall some of them being...meh.

WonderU said:

Mpaige63 said:

Jesse is underrated and most people do not even know who he is unless they are part of the community and over the age of 45. Gotta get that dough I know but brother should be on his own supporting his album. Verbal Penetration is 100 times the record Condensate is, the lyrics are shit. I joined the org again hyped about the release. What a letdown. Morris should stick with the fair performances.

Show of hands, who puts on the Time when looking for insightful lyrics??????

Mpaige63 said:

Zannaloaf said:

That guy? lol.

Now I remember the org days and the mindset lmao. Tweetie Pies? These guys are in their 50's take it up a level.

You dog Prince for his latest music but praise Condensate? I searched the threads, no one talking with vigor over Verbal Penetration and that was an album with FUNK blues and meaningful lyrical content.

I don't blame Jesse, I'd keep my hat down while playing with these dudes too. Monte and Gary are cool as hell and respect their talents.

Wasn't there a song on the CD that actually said my faithful is not your faithful? I can see it doing well in today's 'charts' because it belongs in the same bin as the other garbage on the airwaves.

Yo Shit is Sick.

I dunno where you've been but VP got tons of love around here when it came out. I'm still playing it too.

My thing is that I appreciate each artist for what they bring to the table without feeling the need to make endless comparisons for no reason....Prince included. I love most of the songs people dog Prince about because I like that whole introspective, contemplative vibe he sometimes gets into.

People bitch about one artist having too many facets and then they bitch about the other artists not being faceted enough. How do y'all ever enjoy anything?

It's pretty simple for me, either I like something or I don't and I am loving the fun, party vibe of Condensate not to mention the kickass grooves the fellas put together.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Rhastus said:

Dude you seriously need to lay off the crack

For fuckin' real!!

Rhastus, unless I missed it, I haven't seen your review of the new CD! I'm definitely interested in hearing your take on everything that's goin' on!

I haven't written it yet. Been super busy. I don't even have time to reply to all the Time threads rolling around here right now. I am planning on writing one and I'll post it when I'm done.

MickyDolenz said:

Mpaige63 said:

These guys are in their 50's take it up a level.

So what? Weird Al is in his 50's and still does the same kind of songs he's always done. It's just a record. It's not that serious.

I agree, people need to give it a rest sometimes.

Like I said, this was one damned song and I don't know of any act where people have said they had their best performance on Leno for chrissakes,

As for Jesse not getting camera time, don't people realize that the damned camera man don't know Jesse Johnson from Jesse Jackson??? Sheesh!

PurpleChi said:

Zannaloaf said:

Just watched it and thought it was a good performance. not great. But I thought Princes performances (for comparison sake- he is a GREAT performer live) were mediocre in pats...but he had several nights to ge tthe really good ones he had. If you guys ever watch SNL or any of the shows where nads come out and perform- often the first is so-so (even with god performaers) and the second is better. At a concert you have several songs to get yourself into it PLUS you are playing to your crowd or have time top MAKE them your crowd. I was playng it safe a bit - sound was good on my system tho I can always bump the bass and Monte's solo could have been louder. Overall it was solid and if I had never seen these guys or had not been following the since Purple Rain I would have been blown away. We know far more than the average listener about what these guys CAN do live. Jesse was playing rhythm- you rarley see focus on guitar nles it's a lead on the teevee. Def would like to see other songs live from the cd.

I'm not trying to compare, but Prince's performance of Fury on SNL was white hot (actually all of his SNL performances were great). Actually, I can't think of one Prince performance that was not better (much better) than O7's Leno performance. Even Prince's Leno performances were much, much, much better, and I think that as Prince performances go, the Leno shows were on the lower end. Prince is just a better performer. But then again, I think he's the greatest performer. He even knocks these youngions out of the water.

O7 hasn't gelled yet live. They were good on Leno, but I feel like they can do better. Prince does nothing for me anymore as a live act. He's just as bland and sloppy on stage as he is on his newer records. I still check in on him, but everytime he says,"Ladies and Gentlemen... Mr Maceo PARkahhhh" I feel like he's bs'ing and screwing around. Even Maceo comes out looking like, "WTF, me AGAIN????"

funksterr said:

PurpleChi said:

I'm not trying to compare, but Prince's performance of Fury on SNL was white hot (actually all of his SNL performances were great). Actually, I can't think of one Prince performance that was not better (much better) than O7's Leno performance. Even Prince's Leno performances were much, much, much better, and I think that as Prince performances go, the Leno shows were on the lower end. Prince is just a better performer. But then again, I think he's the greatest performer. He even knocks these youngions out of the water.

O7 hasn't gelled yet live. They were good on Leno, but I feel like they can do better. Prince does nothing for me anymore as a live act. He's just as bland and sloppy on stage as he is on his newer records. I still check in on him, but everytime he says,"Ladies and Gentlemen... Mr Maceo PARkahhhh" I feel like he's bs'ing and screwing around. Even Maceo comes out looking like, "WTF, me AGAIN????"

LMAO!! So damn true!!

MickyDolenz said:

Mpaige63 said:

These guys are in their 50's take it up a level.

So what? Weird Al is in his 50's and still does the same kind of songs he's always done. It's just a record. It's not that serious.

Not really sure what Weird Al has to do with the Time but Weird Al RULEZ!! Best times I ever had at a concert was at his shows!! AWESOME!!

funksterr said:

PurpleChi said:

I'm not trying to compare, but Prince's performance of Fury on SNL was white hot (actually all of his SNL performances were great). Actually, I can't think of one Prince performance that was not better (much better) than O7's Leno performance. Even Prince's Leno performances were much, much, much better, and I think that as Prince performances go, the Leno shows were on the lower end. Prince is just a better performer. But then again, I think he's the greatest performer. He even knocks these youngions out of the water.

O7 hasn't gelled yet live. They were good on Leno, but I feel like they can do better. Prince does nothing for me anymore as a live act. He's just as bland and sloppy on stage as he is on his newer records. I still check in on him, but everytime he says,"Ladies and Gentlemen... Mr Maceo PARkahhhh" I feel like he's bs'ing and screwing around. Even Maceo comes out looking like, "WTF, me AGAIN????"

i know right and it's not a diss on maceo but 4 real pricne's live performances have been so boring 2 me of late. take a look at his last tv appearnce on Lopez tonight, "new" song but umm that song was from album that isn't even available in the states a YEAR later! and for those that bitch about the time incorporating "cool" ummm no beefs about prince doing the beautiful ones then a cover tune after that? but it also proved that prince as a live performer these days is someone that does nothing but one new song, relying on classics and cover tunes and doesn't give me the sense of excitment of seeing them live. now as 4 the time/o7 now i'm jonsed about seeing them live. i haven't seen them live since 96 and despite how many times they have come around my area since then, i didn't want 2 bother because it would be the same songs over and over, but now there is new material and when i hear this album condensate, i'm visioning them doing these songs live.

L4OATheOriginal said:

funksterr said:

O7 hasn't gelled yet live. They were good on Leno, but I feel like they can do better. Prince does nothing for me anymore as a live act. He's just as bland and sloppy on stage as he is on his newer records. I still check in on him, but everytime he says,"Ladies and Gentlemen... Mr Maceo PARkahhhh" I feel like he's bs'ing and screwing around. Even Maceo comes out looking like, "WTF, me AGAIN????"

i know right and it's not a diss on maceo but 4 real pricne's live performances have been so boring 2 me of late. take a look at his last tv appearnce on Lopez tonight, "new" song but umm that song was from album that isn't even available in the states a YEAR later! and for those that bitch about the time incorporating "cool" ummm no beefs about prince doing the beautiful ones then a cover tune after that? but it also proved that prince as a live performer these days is someone that does nothing but one new song, relying on classics and cover tunes and doesn't give me the sense of excitment of seeing them live. now as 4 the time/o7 now i'm jonsed about seeing them live. i haven't seen them live since 96 and despite how many times they have come around my area since then, i didn't want 2 bother because it would be the same songs over and over, but now there is new material and when i hear this album condensate, i'm visioning them doing these songs live.

I'm with you. I know they HAVE to play certain songs, but I won't mind if they cut 'em short and instead give us the new material plus a celebration of ALL the guys individual accomplishments. I think it would make for a stronger show if they pretend to fight for the spotlight with Morris and comment on each other's songs more.

dandeeland said:

MickyDolenz said:

So what? Weird Al is in his 50's and still does the same kind of songs he's always done. It's just a record. It's not that serious.

Not really sure what Weird Al has to do with the Time but Weird Al RULEZ!! Best times I ever had at a concert was at his shows!! AWESOME!!

The other poster said The Original 7ven were too old to be doing the lyrics on the album, and I replied that Al still is doing the same type of songs he has always done. He has a new album too. I guess some folks think that someone of a certain age is supposed to be some old fuddy duddy singing "deep" songs about the problems of the world or something. If they want that, there's always U2 albums. That's not the O7's job.

^^I agree.On another thread,someone complained that The Time is still singing about women,cars and partying.I pointed out that they have a pimp/playa image.What are they supposed to sing about,politics and war? If anybody wants deep lyrics like that,go elsewhere.That's not what these guys are about.

WonderU said:

Mpaige63 said:

Jesse is underrated and most people do not even know who he is unless they are part of the community and over the age of 45. Gotta get that dough I know but brother should be on his own supporting his album. Verbal Penetration is 100 times the record Condensate is, the lyrics are shit. I joined the org again hyped about the release. What a letdown. Morris should stick with the fair performances.

Show of hands, who puts on the Time when looking for insightful lyrics??????

I don't know what you're talking about! I have my church choir working on a gospel tinged version of If The Kid Can't Make You Come. We taking it to the Lord up in here!!!

dandeeland said:

MickyDolenz said:

So what? Weird Al is in his 50's and still does the same kind of songs he's always done. It's just a record. It's not that serious.

Not really sure what Weird Al has to do with the Time but Weird Al RULEZ!! Best times I ever had at a concert was at his shows!! AWESOME!!

yeah I saw him again about a month ago and like you said it Ruled!!!

SoulAlive said:

^^I agree.On another thread,someone complained that The Time is still singing about women,cars and partying.I pointed out that they have a pimp/playa image.What are they supposed to sing about,politics and war? If anybody wants deep lyrics like that,go elsewhere.That's not what these guys are about.

Morris did a couple of songs with a more serious message on his Guaranteed album, and it didn't do anything. The Time did It's Your World, and maybe even Onedayi'mgonnabesomebody could be a message song. But they're a party band, not a message group, or some kind of afrocentric poetry Jill Scott type of act. If you buy a Johnny Mathis album, you know you're getting romantic songs, not hair metal.

HonestMan13 said:

WonderU said:

Show of hands, who puts on the Time when looking for insightful lyrics??????

I don't know what you're talking about! I have my church choir working on a gospel tinged version of If The Kid Can't Make You Come. We taking it to the Lord up in here!!!

funksterr said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

i know right and it's not a diss on maceo but 4 real pricne's live performances have been so boring 2 me of late. take a look at his last tv appearnce on Lopez tonight, "new" song but umm that song was from album that isn't even available in the states a YEAR later! and for those that bitch about the time incorporating "cool" ummm no beefs about prince doing the beautiful ones then a cover tune after that? but it also proved that prince as a live performer these days is someone that does nothing but one new song, relying on classics and cover tunes and doesn't give me the sense of excitment of seeing them live. now as 4 the time/o7 now i'm jonsed about seeing them live. i haven't seen them live since 96 and despite how many times they have come around my area since then, i didn't want 2 bother because it would be the same songs over and over, but now there is new material and when i hear this album condensate, i'm visioning them doing these songs live.

I'm with you. I know they HAVE to play certain songs, but I won't mind if they cut 'em short and instead give us the new material plus a celebration of ALL the guys individual accomplishments. I think it would make for a stronger show if they pretend to fight for the spotlight with Morris and comment on each other's songs more.

yeah like how they did in vegas at the flamingo when they let their solo careers have shine. hell if morris is allowed 2 do fishnet and oaktree why not some jesse tunes , jam and lewis tunes

HonestMan13 said:

WonderU said:

Show of hands, who puts on the Time when looking for insightful lyrics??????

I don't know what you're talking about! I have my church choir working on a gospel tinged version of If The Kid Can't Make You Come. We taking it to the Lord up in here!!!

ahhh damn that is some straight up chillisauce right thur!! i should start the sermon with "i guess u heard of my reputation i've had my share of fooling around..."

babynoz said:

It was one gattdamn song...wtf is wrong with you mofos? Sounding like a bunch of cranky ass old ladies?

Wow you went in.

L4OATheOriginal said:

funksterr said:

O7 hasn't gelled yet live. They were good on Leno, but I feel like they can do better. Prince does nothing for me anymore as a live act. He's just as bland and sloppy on stage as he is on his newer records. I still check in on him, but everytime he says,"Ladies and Gentlemen... Mr Maceo PARkahhhh" I feel like he's bs'ing and screwing around. Even Maceo comes out looking like, "WTF, me AGAIN????"

i know right and it's not a diss on maceo but 4 real pricne's live performances have been so boring 2 me of late. take a look at his last tv appearnce on Lopez tonight, "new" song but umm that song was from album that isn't even available in the states a YEAR later! and for those that bitch about the time incorporating "cool" ummm no beefs about prince doing the beautiful ones then a cover tune after that? but it also proved that prince as a live performer these days is someone that does nothing but one new song, relying on classics and cover tunes and doesn't give me the sense of excitment of seeing them live. now as 4 the time/o7 now i'm jonsed about seeing them live. i haven't seen them live since 96 and despite how many times they have come around my area since then, i didn't want 2 bother because it would be the same songs over and over, but now there is new material and when i hear this album condensate, i'm visioning them doing these songs live.

I'm not one of these Prince die hards that tries to discredit the Original 7ven. In fact i

think their new cd is better than Lotusflow3r. I'll also say that some of Prince last tv

performances was lame but maybe he toned it down for television. I saw him live in

March on tour and P bought it. He had everyone standing. I know the 07ven live show

would be money too on tour. Hell the touring band with Morris was tight last year when i

saw them live so i know damn well the Original guys gonna bring it.

L4OATheOriginal said:

HonestMan13 said:

I don't know what you're talking about! I have my church choir working on a gospel tinged version of If The Kid Can't Make You Come. We taking it to the Lord up in here!!!

ahhh damn that is some straight up chillisauce right thur!! i should start the sermon with "i guess u heard of my reputation i've had my share of fooling around..."

I never thought One Nation Under A Groove would be made into a religious song, When Doves Cry either. Hammer and Kirk Franklin did just that. I'm but I don't put it past anybody to do that.