Ifsixwuz9 said:

MadamGoodnight said:

On the DVD Morris said he and Prince were in Grand Central and they used to battle Flyte Time. Jerome was a roadie for The Time, setting up equipment when he got added. We all know Jesse was the outsider. Morris put the group together, it was his band. Prince convinced him to sing, and that way Jellybean could be the drummer. Flyte Time wouldn't represent all the members anyway in my opinion.

Thanks for the additional DVD info. If I recall Jessee was the only one that wasn't already in Flyte Time. The only other person I can think of that may have been added for the first album and the tour is Monte. And I think he was even in the Morris led band called Flyte Time. (I don't count Jerome as an orginal member at all).

Given all of that, I just don't buy the reason provided for not using the original band name Flyte Time. The point in wanting to use The Time was name recognition correct? But die hard fans know the story behind how they became The Time so using Flyte Time makes all the sense in the world. It distances them from Prince involvement and pays respect to their past. Using a new name with aboslutely no connection to the original roots of the group and is so generic just does not make sense to me. The Original 7ven... If I haven't been keeping up over the years I'm asking, The original seven what? Flyte Time I'd know.

[Edited 10/27/11 12:00pm]

Why not actually watch the dvd and form your opinion from that???

SoulAlive said:

MadamGoodnight said:

P needs to get his old homies. The OG's got the original group, they got Sue Ann. He should do the same.

I agree.Prince's problem these days is that he's not surrounding himself with truly talented folks who could inspire him....and challenge him to go further.He's become complacent.After hearing Condensate,I kinda wish Prince would put together an amazing new band,go into the studio with them,and record the album as a band,with each member contributing their talent and ideas.

Amazing how people who dont know Prince know exactly what Prince's problem is these days - and armed with knowledge from a comeback album that is half filled with embarassing sellout pop from a legendary funk band.

Nice performance.

#Trendin plus a lil bit of COOL.

Good performance as expected! I wish they would of got a little bit more time, too much time was wasted on Chelsea Horseface!

damnit missed it!! where can i find it?? (the performance)

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TrueFunkSoldier2 said:

damnit missed it!! where can i find it?? (the performance)

[Edited 10/27/11 22:20pm]

Either Youtube or NBC's website I think

runawayslave said:

SoulAlive said:

I agree.Prince's problem these days is that he's not surrounding himself with truly talented folks who could inspire him....and challenge him to go further.He's become complacent.After hearing Condensate,I kinda wish Prince would put together an amazing new band,go into the studio with them,and record the album as a band,with each member contributing their talent and ideas.

Amazing how people who dont know Prince know exactly what Prince's problem is these days - and armed with knowledge from a comeback album that is half filled with embarassing sellout pop from a legendary funk band.

So true.

runawayslave said:

SoulAlive said:

I agree.Prince's problem these days is that he's not surrounding himself with truly talented folks who could inspire him....and challenge him to go further.He's become complacent.After hearing Condensate,I kinda wish Prince would put together an amazing new band,go into the studio with them,and record the album as a band,with each member contributing their talent and ideas.

Amazing how people who dont know Prince know exactly what Prince's problem is these days - and armed with knowledge from a comeback album that is half filled with embarassing sellout pop from a legendary funk band.

It's just my opinion and apparently alot of other fans agree.

SoulAlive said:

runawayslave said:

Amazing how people who dont know Prince know exactly what Prince's problem is these days - and armed with knowledge from a comeback album that is half filled with embarassing sellout pop from a legendary funk band.

It's just my opinion and apparently alot of other fans agree.

Your theory makes sense. Runawayslave defends Prince and only makes negative comments about the Time, despite trying to claim to be a fan.

jwashin4 said:

Runawayslave defends Prince and only makes negative comments about the Time, despite trying to claim to be a fan.

Runawayslave is one of those fans who thinks that Prince invented music and nobody else has talent.

runawayslave said:

The title track and the silly concepts around condesation is fairly lame and not funny.

Hee-hee. I think it's pretty funny and smart actually.

As guys in advancing years and waistlines - yeah, they're sweating in their suits on stage a bit, but they're too COOL to sweat, so they condensate, like a COOL bottle of champagne. Huh? Huh? That works for me!

NouveauDance said:

runawayslave said:

The title track and the silly concepts around condesation is fairly lame and not funny.

Hee-hee. I think it's pretty funny and smart actually.

As guys in advancing years and waistlines - yeah, they're sweating in their suits on stage a bit, but they're too COOL to sweat, so they condensate, like a COOL bottle of champagne. Huh? Huh? That works for me!

Ranawayslave is just hatin'

runawayslave said:

SoulAlive said:

I agree.Prince's problem these days is that he's not surrounding himself with truly talented folks who could inspire him....and challenge him to go further.He's become complacent.After hearing Condensate,I kinda wish Prince would put together an amazing new band,go into the studio with them,and record the album as a band,with each member contributing their talent and ideas.

Amazing how people who dont know Prince know exactly what Prince's problem is these days - and armed with knowledge from a comeback album that is half filled with embarassing sellout pop from a legendary funk band.

this coming from someone that obviously can't remember or wasn't around when Prince was being accused of not being funky anymore hence the original name of the black album was called the FUNK BIBLE 2 silence those that claimed he wasn't funky anymore. and 2 add insult, u claim 2 know funk but u can't hear none on condensate..damn ur funny!

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Nice performance.

#Trendin plus a lil bit of COOL.

it was indeed cool! only thing i would have wished for was a interview with the band but again this is leno lol

ohYeeeeeah said:

runawayslave said:

Amazing how people who dont know Prince know exactly what Prince's problem is these days - and armed with knowledge from a comeback album that is half filled with embarassing sellout pop from a legendary funk band.

[Snip - luv4u]

[It is not nice nor funny to alter anothers post snip - luv4u]

Plaaaayyy time is ooooooo-ver.

SoulAlive said:

runawayslave said:

Amazing how people who dont know Prince know exactly what Prince's problem is these days - and armed with knowledge from a comeback album that is half filled with embarassing sellout pop from a legendary funk band.

It's just my opinion and apparently alot of other fans agree.

A LOT of other fans!! Tell it how it is, SA! Yount!!!

L4OATheOriginal said:

runawayslave said:

Amazing how people who dont know Prince know exactly what Prince's problem is these days - and armed with knowledge from a comeback album that is half filled with embarassing sellout pop from a legendary funk band.

this coming from someone that obviously can't remember or wasn't around when Prince was being accused of not being funky anymore hence the original name of the black album was called the FUNK BIBLE 2 silence those that claimed he wasn't funky anymore. and 2 add insult, u claim 2 know funk but u can't hear none on condensate..damn ur funny!

Waa-haw! *Morris Day laugh*

babynoz said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:

Thanks for the additional DVD info. If I recall Jessee was the only one that wasn't already in Flyte Time. The only other person I can think of that may have been added for the first album and the tour is Monte. And I think he was even in the Morris led band called Flyte Time. (I don't count Jerome as an orginal member at all).

Given all of that, I just don't buy the reason provided for not using the original band name Flyte Time. The point in wanting to use The Time was name recognition correct? But die hard fans know the story behind how they became The Time so using Flyte Time makes all the sense in the world. It distances them from Prince involvement and pays respect to their past. Using a new name with aboslutely no connection to the original roots of the group and is so generic just does not make sense to me. The Original 7ven... If I haven't been keeping up over the years I'm asking, The original seven what? Flyte Time I'd know.

[Edited 10/27/11 12:00pm]

Why not actually watch the dvd and form your opinion from that???

Because I'm not paying for this DVD/CD just for the sake of curiosity. Besides from what I gather they don't go into any detail, so why bother?

alexnvrmnd777 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

this coming from someone that obviously can't remember or wasn't around when Prince was being accused of not being funky anymore hence the original name of the black album was called the FUNK BIBLE 2 silence those that claimed he wasn't funky anymore. and 2 add insult, u claim 2 know funk but u can't hear none on condensate..damn ur funny!

Waa-haw! *Morris Day laugh*

This site is like watching that Micheal Jackson documentary about the fans with almost no grip on the real world camped outside during his trial. Sad and hilarious at the same time.

runawayslave said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Waa-haw! *Morris Day laugh*

This site is like watching that Micheal Jackson documentary about the fans with almost no grip on the real world camped outside during his trial. Sad and hilarious at the same time.

no grip? that's funny coming from a runawayslave

do u need a tissue 2 wipe away the tears cause u got bitch slapped into realizing u have no merits in your words or challenged 2 prove ur points and u come back with NADA!

Ifsixwuz9 said:

Thanks for the additional DVD info. If I recall Jessee was the only one that wasn't already in Flyte Time. The only other person I can think of that may have been added for the first album and the tour is Monte. And I think he was even in the Morris led band called Flyte Time. (I don't count Jerome as an orginal member at all).

Given all of that, I just don't buy the reason provided for not using the original band name Flyte Time. The point in wanting to use The Time was name recognition correct? But die hard fans know the story behind how they became The Time so using Flyte Time makes all the sense in the world. It distances them from Prince involvement and pays respect to their past. Using a new name with aboslutely no connection to the original roots of the group and is so generic just does not make sense to me. The Original 7ven... If I haven't been keeping up over the years I'm asking, The original seven what? Flyte Time I'd know.

[Edited 10/27/11 12:00pm]

Why? Why would they need to use the same recycled name? Why would that not be reason enough to use something new? Only a few fans know who Flyte Tyme is and it wouldn't make one bit of difference in using it and using something new. Flyte Tyme did not have JJ in it...so, they aren't Flyte Tyme, either. Flyte Tyme is used by Jimmy & Terry on their productiions. Its not that hard. Its not that far-fetched, either. At this point, they are only playing to their fan base. Its not like they are going after the tween-agers.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

SoulAlive said:

It's just my opinion and apparently alot of other fans agree.

A LOT of other fans!! Tell it how it is, SA! Yount!!!

jeez so much P negativity - started on page 1!

Why not discuss the tracks, and suely there was more to the dvd than to7 reference to P?

I swear the org threads always end up descending into a flame war. Tiresome

BlaqueKnight said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:

Thanks for the additional DVD info. If I recall Jessee was the only one that wasn't already in Flyte Time. The only other person I can think of that may have been added for the first album and the tour is Monte. And I think he was even in the Morris led band called Flyte Time. (I don't count Jerome as an orginal member at all).

Given all of that, I just don't buy the reason provided for not using the original band name Flyte Time. The point in wanting to use The Time was name recognition correct? But die hard fans know the story behind how they became The Time so using Flyte Time makes all the sense in the world. It distances them from Prince involvement and pays respect to their past. Using a new name with aboslutely no connection to the original roots of the group and is so generic just does not make sense to me. The Original 7ven... If I haven't been keeping up over the years I'm asking, The original seven what? Flyte Time I'd know.

[Edited 10/27/11 12:00pm]

Why? Why would they need to use the same recycled name? Why would that not be reason enough to use something new? Only a few fans know who Flyte Tyme is and it wouldn't make one bit of difference in using it and using something new. Flyte Tyme did not have JJ in it...so, they aren't Flyte Tyme, either. Flyte Tyme is used by Jimmy & Terry on their productiions. Its not that hard. Its not that far-fetched, either. At this point, they are only playing to their fan base. Its not like they are going after the tween-agers.

Well by that logic there was no real reason for the hurt feelings (from anyone: fans/or band members) over not being able to use the name The Time either. See you can't have it both ways.

And I know the name Flyte Tyme is the name of JJ & TL productions I just wanted someone to acknowledge the notion that business is business. P didn't give permission to use The Time for business reasons. The bandmembers didn't want to use name Flyte Time for business reasons.

80spfantwp said:

Why not discuss the tracks, and suely there was more to the dvd than to7 reference to P?

I would like to hear more about the DVD actually, since it's only available in one US chainstore, it's going to be a while probs. till I get to see it for myself.

I just received "Condensate" today, I know almost two weeks late. I haven't listened to the cd, but I know it's funky because it's "The Time." What had me laughing was the dvd and how Prince treated "The Time" during the "Controversy" and "1999" tours. I have only one thing to say.

THAT DAMN, PRINCE!!!!!!! He always have to be controlling, which is why "The Time" couldn't use the band's original name since Prince owns it. He must have embraced the lessons he learned from Warner Brothers.

I digress, and as someone that was in around when "The Time" was released in 1981. It was a hit. All they played on the radio was "Get It Up." I living in Inglewood, CA during this era and I swear, I must have wore my cassette out. When I first saw Prince in concert, which was the "1999 Tour" a year later, I distinctly wore baggy cords to the concert because Morris Day didn't like blue jeans. I loved Prince, but "The Time" made you want to dance and they were getting a lot of attention. Prince saw that not only on the stage, but in the reviews.

Prince will always be my favorite musician, he has given us a lot musically. And he did give us "The Time."

Thank you, Prince. And thank you, Morris Day for writing the music to "Party Up" that got the ball rolling for "The Time" to come into existence.

NouveauDance said:

80spfantwp said:

Why not discuss the tracks, and suely there was more to the dvd than to7 reference to P?

I would like to hear more about the DVD actually, since it's only available in one US chainstore, it's going to be a while probs. till I get to see it for myself.

It's a very well put together documentary. They cover all of the basics of their history as well as give great stories of how the band was formed. They even got everyone's point of view on what was going on at the time.

There are segments where they are all sitting around a table (looks like in a restaurant) talking about the past and the present, as well as individual interviews. They also cover the projects they did over the last 20 years as solo acts.

They tell a few stories dealing with Prince, Alexander O'Neal, Vanity 6 and members of the Revolution throughout the documentary that are funny as hell. A few of them state things in the documentary that Prince said to them personally that have never been discussed in public (that I can recall, anyway).

Bootleg footage of the 1999 tour is incorporated into the documentary. I'm still wondering if Prince is upset about that. There is footage show of The Time and Vanity 6's set, but not of Prince's set.

To me, they don't paint Prince as a bad person. Even when they are describing the firing of Jam and Lewis, they didn't take the low road. Even when they were discussing the name change, you could see that Morris was highly pissed during the taping, but Jerome turned it into a positive.

I suggest you grab it.

@daPrettyman

Thanks for clarifying the dvd doc content. AsI suspected TO7 have plenty to say uther than about the name change. Some really bitter/ spiteful orgers are ironically undermining their positivity about Condensation rather than educating those of us who havent seen the doc on it's content.