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Reply #120 posted 10/20/11 12:48am

SoulAlive

PurpleChi said:

SoulAlive said:

"Cadillac" by the Original 7Ven

Yep. Funky.

nod this is Minneapolis funk,2011-style lol

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Reply #121 posted 10/20/11 1:49am

SoulAlive

"Toast To The Party Girl" music Reminscent of the Dirty Mind period...this track would have fit perfectly on the first Time album.

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Reply #122 posted 10/20/11 2:54am

SoulAlive

a recent Billboard article from last month...

The Time 'Condensate' to Original 7ven on October Album

Billboard

The Time 'Condensate' to Original 7ven on October Album

by Gary Graff, Detroit | September 28, 2011 3:30 EDT

It's time -- and perhaps over-time -- for some new music from The Time. It's coming in October, but the group will no longer be using that name.

"Condensate," which drops Oct. 18 on Time Life's SRR Records imprint and is the band's first new release since "Pandemonium" in 1990, marks the debut of the Original 7ven, the new moniker for the funky septet adopted after Prince -- who established The Time in 1981 -- denied rights to the original group name. Rather than making a fight out of it, however, the group members decided to view it as an opportunity for a fresh start.

"We took it as a chance to be free and liberated...and that was sort of the approach we took to making the album," keyboardist and co-producer Jimmy Jam (nee Harris) tells Billboard.com. "We sound like ourselves because we have a sound, for sure, when we get together, but we certainly didn't have the constraints of the name, and therefore we felt we could do music that represented where we're at right now. So we just kind of embraced it rather than getting all involved in legal stuff."

Guitarist Jesse Johnson, meanwhile, says that taking on a new name also ends any confusion between The Time -- the original lineup that includes Jam and Terry Lewis, who were kicked out of the band by Prince in 1983 -- and Morris Day & the Time, which tours regularly and includes Johnson, hype man Jerome Benton, keyboardist Monte Moir and drummer Jellybean Johnson. "It got confusing for people -- there's not enough of a distinction between the two acts to make a different," Johnson explains. "I think (the change) is more of a good thing than a bad thing. We are the original guys, so people will know who we are when they hear the Original 7ven."

The Time Reunite For Tour, New Album

The group also refers to itself, slyly, as "the band formerly known as The Time," and Jam adds that "the fans can call us The Time if they'd like to. We don't have any problems with that. We don't mind that at all. We can't call ourselves that, but the fans are certainly welcome to."

Though some of the material on "Condensate" dates back to the 90s -- particularly the song "Go Home To Your Man," according to Lewis -- most of the album's 14 songs have been developed during the past three years, since the group began working in earnest on the album following its performance at the 2008 Grammy Awards ceremony. Jam says the Original 7ven wound up working on about two dozen songs and was initially ready to hack the list down to 10 for the album, but he credits Johnson with lobbying successfully for the additional tracks.

"We got down to 14 and said, 'Let's cut two more out,' " Jam recalls, "and (Johnson) just said, 'Man, the fans have been waiting 20 years for us to do a new record. Why not give 'em 14 songs. They deserve it. What's the big deal?' And we all said, 'Y'know what Jess -- you're right.' " Johnson adds that, "the thing that makes me happiest is it's a reinvention instead of the same old same old. I never wanted to be part of that. I wanted to make sure every song on ('Condensate') was something built from the ground up, now, and not something that was pulled out of the closet from years ago. I didn't want to be part of that."

Jam is confident that the remaining songs "will see the light of day" in the future. But with the album done, the Original 7ven is gearing up to get into promotion mode. A video has been shot for the first single, "#Trendin," and the group is lining up TV appearances as well as special showings for a documentary that was filmed during the making of the album, which will also be part of a deluxe package of "Condensate." The Original 7ven will perform Oct. 19 show at Club Nokia in Los Angeles and hopes to play a similar small venue date during October in New York City.

Meanwhile, Jam says, the group will "focus most of our touring towards next year. We're planning on hopefully doing a ton of festival things. There's some interesting possibilities for bills with people that are kind of intriguing -- I can't say names yet, but where we would basically co-headline or even open for somebody. For us it's pretty wide open."

Jam adds that bringing out a new album in 2011 is something of an adventure for the group. "You have to remember that when we released our last record, there was no such thing as Facebook or Twitter or iTunes or any of those types of things," he notes. "The whole industry was totally different. All the record companies were still there. It was all defined. It's a whole different environment as far as releasing records, but we haven't changed the way we make music...We really tried to make it like an album. Those people who want to listen to something from start to finish, I think this'll really satisfy them. And then the people who want to cherry-pick song by song, that's fine, too. But we really tried to make an album that would hold together and was sequenced and would move the way we wanted it to, and hopefully people will enjoy that."


The full track list for "Condensate" includes:

7ven Intro (skit)
Strawberry Lake
O7ven Press Conference (skit)
Condensate
#Trendin
If I Was Yo Man
Role Play
Sick
Lifestyle
Faithful
Cadillac
AYDKMN
One Step
Toast To The Party Girl
Hey Yo

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Reply #123 posted 10/20/11 3:02am

SoulAlive

"We really tried to make an album that would hold together"

and that's exactly what they did.This album is tight,focused and consistent from the first track to the last one.It feels like a complete album and not just a bunch of songs thrown together.

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Reply #124 posted 10/20/11 6:13am

SoulAlive

ALBUM REVIEW--THE HUFFINGTON POST

Back To The Future: "The Time" Reunites for New Album as "The Original 7ven"

Posted: 10/19/11 01:52 PM ET

On a wintry night in 1983, two musicians left a recording studio in Atlanta...

They were headed back to the airport. They had been in town to produce two songs for a reputable local band. They were on their way to San Antonio where, alongside their own bandmates, they were scheduled to open for a major recording artist. But they never made it. As fate would have it, while recording, a severe weather front had swept in over Georgia from the North East, grounding all air traffic in heavy snow. It was a night that would forever change their lives.

When they were finally reunited with their band, the musicians were summoned to a small, crowded room for a meeting. Brought together by Prince in 1981, as part of his own initial record deal with Warner Bros., The Time was made up of high school friends, 7 in all, formed from two local Minneapolis groups. As the band's de facto founder and talent promoter, Prince accused the two musicians of moonlighting while under a strict edict to neither write nor produce outside of the band. Despite not being encouraged to write or produce for the band, the judgment was unequivocal, if far from unanimous: Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis were fired.

Unable to convince any others to follow them out the door and with little more than a four-track tape recorder, a bass guitar and a Fedora full of songs, the two musicians left for Los Angeles.

"Wait and see," Prince is said to have remarked at the time, "...you'll never hear from those guys again."

Replacements were soon enlisted to support debonair frontman Morris Day and the remaining members: Jellybean Johnson, Monte Moir, Jerome Benton and Jesse Johnson. Prince continued to press ahead and fame quickly followed for the band in 1984 when they were featured in his film debut Purple Rain, a cult classic that would see The Time enjoy crossover success. Subsequent singles Jungle Love and The Bird propelled their third album, Ice Cream Castles, to #24 on the U.S. chart, eclipsing their first two releases.

Meanwhile, the Atlanta-based S.O.S. Band had already reached #2 on the U.S. R&B Chart with Just Be Good To Me, written and produced by a little-known production partnership called Jam and Lewis.

Seven years later, Jam and Lewis briefly returned to The Time for Prince's Purple Rain sequel, Graffiti Bridge, and to record a new album. Certified Gold by the RIAA in 1990, Pandemonium became their most successful release, topping Ice Cream Castles and spawning the US R&B Chart No.1 single Jerk Out. But the reunion was short-lived. In 2008, rumors of a new album surfaced once more after Rihanna joined the original seven members onstage for a blistering performance of Jungle Love/Umbrella at the 50th Grammy Awards ceremony.

30 years after they first came together and 21 years since they last recorded as a group, they've finally reunited on their own terms as The Original 7ven (the band formerly known as The Time). Their new album, Condensate, is accompanied by a new film documentary on the group's history -- premiering this week at The Grammy Museum -- and an international tour schedule planned for 2012.

For their part, since their first stint with The Time, Jam & Lewis have earned plaudits as one of the most prolific production duos in music history, working with the likes of Janet Jackson, brother Michael, Mariah Carey, Chaka Khan, Usher, Mary J. Blige and countless others. Throughout their partnership they have registered millions of sales on over 100 albums that have exceeded either gold, platinum or multi-platinum status. To date, they have notched up an incredible 15 No.1 pop hits and 25 No.1 R&B chart-toppers and bagged more Grammy Awards than even Prince himself. Of their relationship with Prince, the two producers are characteristically sanguine and their bandmates all remain clearly upbeat in interviews when quizzed about their friend and former partner. The Time's own toxic history with the prolific star is complicated, well-documented and better explored elsewhere. Yet, suffice to say, it is laden with long-standing baggage on both sides, only some of which perhaps remains on an Atlanta airport carousel.

Nevertheless, The Time are considered worthy successors to their funkadelic forebears and remain synonymous with the very Sound of Minneapolis: that infectious hybrid of funk, rock, pop, soul and New Wave that, according to the Rolling Stone Album Guide, "...loomed over mid-'80s R&B and pop, not to mention the next two decades' worth of electro, house, and techno."

That this supergroup have reformed under a new name speaks volumes. Whether Prince claimed his rights and refused them the option to return as The Time will feel academic to most fans, particularly if the searing bass-line and infectious hook of their first single #Trendin' is anything to go by. The new track opens The Original 7ven's account with a solid airplay contender as the #1 added song this week on U.S. urban radio and a sure-fire resolution not to rest on past successes. With its timely, tongue-in-cheek reference to the baying twitterati, the new track fizzes with the fresh energy one can always expect from accomplished live musicians who are clearly having fun on their first record in 20 years. No, this isn't will.i.am 'phunk', it's morris.e.day and Funk with an 'F'.

An essential refresher to the genre, the new album opens in flawless and familiar color: Strawberry Lake is a bright, upbeat fanfare that welcomes back old friends doing what they do best. Title track Condensate, introduced in classic skit style, struts confidently and delivers on that trademark cocktail of humour and swagger only Morris Day and Jerome Benton can serve up. If I was Your Man and Faithful sparkle as genial additions to the oeuvre, fashioning warm and accessible counterpoints to Sick, an axe-driven funk jam which finds Jesse Johnson in rude health, relishing every lick and 'kissing the sky' in the process. Conversely, Cadillac is a low-riding gem which sizzles with subtle, yet playful, energy and sass. The swinging One Step and equally rowdy Toast To A Party Girl are tremendous fun, vividly alluding to the band's live promise in the months to come. Naturally, one cannot expect The Time purists to immediately fall-in behind the more modish tracks such as the lead single and Hey Yo but, crucially, it is through these very songs that The Original 7ven offer insight into their new identity and relevance.

The Original 7ven's updated sound is still masterfully rooted in the band's trademark Minneapolis signature which their older, primary audience will appreciate and recognize instantly. Younger newcomers will feel a greater affinity to the more contemporary tracks on the 14-song release, while spotting a leitmotif that pervades the repertoire of later artists from Outkast to Snoop Dogg. In short, Condensate marks a mighty return to the fore for a beloved ensemble that has rightfully earned its own status as music royalty.

★★★★★
'Condensate', the new album
by The Original 7ven
Released October 18, 2011

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Reply #125 posted 10/20/11 6:14am

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minneapolisFunq said:

Okay, I gave in and listened to it.

My opinion remains the same.

Cadillac is the only song I truly enjoy.

All of The Time's worst songs are on this album.

"One Step" is simply terrible.

+ Anyone who believes that "Condensate" is funkier than 7779311 can just die.

Who said that? Anyway I think if they did is only because of the hype. Really I think this goes up next to Pandemonium. I didnt like One Step either and 4 other songs. I was happy to embrace what they brought to the table...but some of the more modern sounding songs like Lifestyle could have been left for b-sides or a bonus track. Otherwise I thought the good outweighed the bad on Condensate.
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Reply #126 posted 10/20/11 6:31am

SoulAlive

"#Trendin" is the Number One Most Added song on R&B/urban radio stations this week clapping Looks like the guys have a hit single on their hands.

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Reply #127 posted 10/20/11 6:46am

SoulAlive

funksterr said:

runawayslave said:

SOme tracks are a little annoying because they are obviously trying to sound like kids on the radio that are young enough to be their children. Hey Yo sounds like almost every piece of crap on pop radio now - something like Rhianna or Lady Gaga would put their names on. Can a gang of 50+ year old black dudes from the 80s expect to capture that market today? I let it slide on #Trendin because you can hear a Time groove underneath the meaningless Black Eyes Peas keyboard noise. They are too good for that so I am glad that they managed to avoid it for the most part on this album.

How old are you? Not truly asking but you sound like you have no appreciation for contemporary music. Of course they are reaching out to this generation? Why wouldn't they? See ALL MAJOR LABEL releases for nearly every act with a 20-30 year legacy and they are all incorporating modern sounds into there new releases. Many of which SOUND GREAT, not just the new Original 7even.

Can a gang of 50+ year old black dudes from the 80s expect to capture that market today? See El Debarge and Charlie Wilson. Hell Black Eyed Peas are some cats damn near pushin 50. biggrin You soundin' a bit haterish.... I eat haters for dinner.

I definitely hear "modern" sounds on the new album,but they balance it perfectly with their classic Minneapolis funk sound of the 80s.That's the way to go.What's the point in making a "new" album that sounds like 1982? These guys want to continue their journey,to move on.

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Reply #128 posted 10/20/11 6:51am

SoulAlive

In one of the recent interviews,Jesse said that he didn't want to do an album where they take old songs out of the closet and throw 'em on the album (he was obviously referring to Pandemonium,which contains several old tracks from the vaults).He wanted to build these songs from scratch and take The Time into a new direction.

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Reply #129 posted 10/20/11 6:59am

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what is it saying when i've played this album on repeat constantly and have already surpassed how many times i played 20ten which was about 4 times?

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #130 posted 10/20/11 7:59am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

what is it saying when i've played this album on repeat constantly and have already surpassed how many times i played 20ten which was about 4 times?

It's saying that these dudes made you wait 21 years for a new song! The music is great but to compare it to anything Prince has done in that time period is not really fair to them. They have a long way to go as artists with no one overseeing them before they can be compared to any long running act still out today.

When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #131 posted 10/20/11 8:26am

runawayslave

funksterr said:

runawayslave said:

SOme tracks are a little annoying because they are obviously trying to sound like kids on the radio that are young enough to be their children. Hey Yo sounds like almost every piece of crap on pop radio now - something like Rhianna or Lady Gaga would put their names on. Can a gang of 50+ year old black dudes from the 80s expect to capture that market today? I let it slide on #Trendin because you can hear a Time groove underneath the meaningless Black Eyes Peas keyboard noise. They are too good for that so I am glad that they managed to avoid it for the most part on this album.

How old are you? Not truly asking but you sound like you have no appreciation for contemporary music. Of course they are reaching out to this generation? Why wouldn't they? See ALL MAJOR LABEL releases for nearly every act with a 20-30 year legacy and they are all incorporating modern sounds into there new releases. Many of which SOUND GREAT, not just the new Original 7even.

Can a gang of 50+ year old black dudes from the 80s expect to capture that market today? See El Debarge and Charlie Wilson. Hell Black Eyed Peas are some cats damn near pushin 50. biggrin You soundin' a bit haterish.... I eat haters for dinner.

If you think El Debarge and Charlie Wilson are examples of vets who were commercially successful in capturing the key demographic for music marketing (a demo that probably wasnt even alive in the 80s), a true retort to your erroneous assessment would be useless. I will just say that I love the Time. I met them when they were on the Controversy tour and love them ever since. I have seen them live at least 40 times over those 30 years. I live too well to "hate" - I don't even know why someone would hate. So you definiately can not step to me to have me for dinner.

There are those veteran artists that do what they do best and do not compromise their sound for whatever the pop trends are. I simply hoped that the Time would be one of them. I understand that they may want to have a fat record deal, sell records, and be big as they were in the 80s. Perhaps this will get them there. I am considering the music; not the business. THe Time is above chasing the kid sound to appeal to kids.

[Edited 10/20/11 8:28am]

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Reply #132 posted 10/20/11 8:44am

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funksterr said:

minneapolisFunq said:

Okay, I gave in and listened to it.

My opinion remains the same.

Cadillac is the only song I truly enjoy.

All of The Time's worst songs are on this album.

"One Step" is simply terrible.

+ Anyone who believes that "Condensate" is funkier than 7779311 can just die.

Your post starts with the words "Okay, I gave in and" and ends with "just die". Dude, CHEER UP!. The new record is a funny, funk filled blast! Give it a chance. Did you actually BUY the disc and listed to it in your car? You sound ready to jump off Grafitti Bridge or something. biggrin

With a bitter attitude like that, of course he wasn't going to like it.

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Reply #133 posted 10/20/11 8:47am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

what is it saying when i've played this album on repeat constantly and have already surpassed how many times i played 20ten which was about 4 times?

I think I've played 20ten twice. lol I already said before, I like Condensate more than any Prince album from the last 15 years.

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Reply #134 posted 10/20/11 8:52am

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minneapolisFunq said:

+ Anyone who believes that "Condensate" is funkier than 7779311 can just die.

"Funkier"? No. Funky? Yes.

It doesn't have to be better. I'm just glad it's good!

wink

Not dead, not in prison, still funkin'...
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Reply #135 posted 10/20/11 9:29am

funksterr

runawayslave said:

funksterr said:

How old are you? Not truly asking but you sound like you have no appreciation for contemporary music. Of course they are reaching out to this generation? Why wouldn't they? See ALL MAJOR LABEL releases for nearly every act with a 20-30 year legacy and they are all incorporating modern sounds into there new releases. Many of which SOUND GREAT, not just the new Original 7even.

Can a gang of 50+ year old black dudes from the 80s expect to capture that market today? See El Debarge and Charlie Wilson. Hell Black Eyed Peas are some cats damn near pushin 50. biggrin You soundin' a bit haterish.... I eat haters for dinner.

If you think El Debarge and Charlie Wilson are examples of vets who were commercially successful in capturing the key demographic for music marketing (a demo that probably wasnt even alive in the 80s), a true retort to your erroneous assessment would be useless. I will just say that I love the Time. I met them when they were on the Controversy tour and love them ever since. I have seen them live at least 40 times over those 30 years. I live too well to "hate" - I don't even know why someone would hate. So you definiately can not step to me to have me for dinner.

There are those veteran artists that do what they do best and do not compromise their sound for whatever the pop trends are. I simply hoped that the Time would be one of them. I understand that they may want to have a fat record deal, sell records, and be big as they were in the 80s. Perhaps this will get them there. I am considering the music; not the business. THe Time is above chasing the kid sound to appeal to kids.

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Okay, I apologize for the hater comment.

I just wonder why you mention age and kids vs adults, etc. I mean it's just pop music. I think of it this way: when an act comes out with a new record it's like a party where everybody is invited.

They didn't come out like we are dead, we have nothing new to offer, we are limited only to what we knew in the past, etc. No they said we are all vibrant life-loving men, comfortable with our history and embracing our present. This is a band that has always stood for COOL. They ain't coming with nothing less than a well crafted party album. Did you buy it yet? Morris Day is incredible on this record.

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Reply #136 posted 10/20/11 9:35am

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HonestMan13 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

what is it saying when i've played this album on repeat constantly and have already surpassed how many times i played 20ten which was about 4 times?

It's saying that these dudes made you wait 21 years for a new song! The music is great but to compare it to anything Prince has done in that time period is not really fair to them. They have a long way to go as artists with no one overseeing them before they can be compared to any long running act still out today.

ummmm 20ten was garbage ranking right up there with planet earth. time withstanding how long it's been pandemonium, this is head bobbing, funky face, dancing fun type of record. 20ten isn't this funky fun

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #137 posted 10/20/11 10:14am

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runawayslave said:

SOme tracks are a little annoying because they are obviously trying to sound like kids on the radio that are young enough to be their children. Hey Yo sounds like almost every piece of crap on pop radio now - something like Rhianna or Lady Gaga would put their names on. Can a gang of 50+ year old black dudes from the 80s expect to capture that market today? I let it slide on #Trendin because you can hear a Time groove underneath the meaningless Black Eyes Peas keyboard noise. They are too good for that so I am glad that they managed to avoid it for the most part on this album.

Dude:

Quick hatin'. Everything you've said has been negative.

- JD

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Reply #138 posted 10/20/11 10:26am

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There are some real throwback tracks that are done well in the way Prince has sometimes done like Lolita - Strawberry Lake obviously sits in the grounds of the Ice-Cream Castle, and If I Was Yo Man is really slick and hooky. The modern sounding tracks like Trendin' and Role Play range from white noise to icky and cringeworthy. Jam/Lewis haven't produced anything that's caught my interest in about 15 years at least, so anything that sounds like the stuff they would knock out recently for some bit of fluff or closeted crooner isn't going to appeal to me anyway.

I think overall, it isn't something I will be revisiting that often, the production values do not really appeal to me, but it does have a modern pop sound, so I think if it gets the exposure there's no reason why they couldn't have a mini-reneissance type hit or two (I use the term hit loosely, I know they're not going to be sitting atop the pop charts for months to come).

I'll be making a shorter version for the ipod, I think it could use a little pruning to weed out some of the weaker tracks (IMO). I know it's tempting to want as many tracks as possible if any artist has been MIA for decades, but I prefer an LP's worth of strong material to a CD crammed with filler.

Jesse's guitar really bring some of the tracks to life too, he might be the best thing about it. biggrin

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Reply #139 posted 10/20/11 11:06am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

HonestMan13 said:

It's saying that these dudes made you wait 21 years for a new song! The music is great but to compare it to anything Prince has done in that time period is not really fair to them. They have a long way to go as artists with no one overseeing them before they can be compared to any long running act still out today.

ummmm 20ten was garbage ranking right up there with planet earth. time withstanding how long it's been pandemonium, this is head bobbing, funky face, dancing fun type of record. 20ten isn't this funky fun

The thing about the comparison is that everyone seems to want to compare 'Condensate' to whatever they consider Prince's worst CD to be. How about comparing it to his best CD that he released in the past 21 years.

Finally having total control over their product essentially makes The Original 7ven a 'new' band. I think this is a great effort and a very good CD but can they keep it up for the next thirty years. I pose the same question to them that I asked of FDeluxe "Is this a one-time thing or will there be futre projects?" It's easy to ride the wave and the hype of the nostalgia surrounding the return of 'The Time' but can they keep it up for the long haul? This particular line up of the group was dead in the water by the end of the 1999 tour in 1983. If it wasn't for 'Graffiti Bridge' getting them back together this CD would've probably never been made because they didn't even want to try for themselves(even they said they wanted it to die in the liner notes).

When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #140 posted 10/20/11 11:22am

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HonestMan13 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

ummmm 20ten was garbage ranking right up there with planet earth. time withstanding how long it's been pandemonium, this is head bobbing, funky face, dancing fun type of record. 20ten isn't this funky fun

The thing about the comparison is that everyone seems to want to compare 'Condensate' to whatever they consider Prince's worst CD to be. How about comparing it to his best CD that he released in the past 21 years.

Finally having total control over their product essentially makes The Original 7ven a 'new' band. I think this is a great effort and a very good CD but can they keep it up for the next thirty years. I pose the same question to them that I asked of FDeluxe "Is this a one-time thing or will there be futre projects?" It's easy to ride the wave and the hype of the nostalgia surrounding the return of 'The Time' but can they keep it up for the long haul? This particular line up of the group was dead in the water by the end of the 1999 tour in 1983. If it wasn't for 'Graffiti Bridge' getting them back together this CD would've probably never been made because they didn't even want to try for themselves(even they said they wanted it to die in the liner notes).

People here do the same thing when it comes to Prince and Van Hunt. The minute VH releases a new CD, its up to his 6th or 7th now, they compare it to Prince's recent stuff. I'm like why not compare it to Prince's 6th or 7th cd unless we will assume Van Hunt will be perfect for the next 25 years? Who's to say the next O7 CD will be just as great? Even though, I feel pretty confident about it but we'll see!! cool

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Reply #141 posted 10/20/11 11:28am

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HonestMan13 said:

The thing about the comparison is that everyone seems to want to compare 'Condensate' to whatever they consider Prince's worst CD to be. How about comparing it to his best CD that he released in the past 21 years.

Finally having total control over their product essentially makes The Original 7ven a 'new' band. I think this is a great effort and a very good CD but can they keep it up for the next thirty years. I pose the same question to them that I asked of FDeluxe "Is this a one-time thing or will there be futre projects?" It's easy to ride the wave and the hype of the nostalgia surrounding the return of 'The Time' but can they keep it up for the long haul? This particular line up of the group was dead in the water by the end of the 1999 tour in 1983. If it wasn't for 'Graffiti Bridge' getting them back together this CD would've probably never been made because they didn't even want to try for themselves(even they said they wanted it to die in the liner notes).

People here do the same thing when it comes to Prince and Van Hunt. The minute VH releases a new CD, its up to his 6th or 7th now, they compare it to Prince's recent stuff. I'm like why not compare it to Prince's 6th or 7th cd unless we will assume Van Hunt will be perfect for the next 25 years? Who's to say the next O7 CD will be just as great? Even though, I feel pretty confident about it but we'll see!! cool

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You understand completely. If The O7 are in competition with anyone it's their own past works, they either need to match them or surpass them to establish the credibility they want as a band (now being apart from Prince) finally.

When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #142 posted 10/20/11 12:52pm

babynoz

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"#Trendin" is the Number One Most Added song on R&B/urban radio stations this week clapping Looks like the guys have a hit single on their hands.

Well deserved...woot!

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #143 posted 10/20/11 1:22pm

SoulAlive

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SoulAlive said:

"#Trendin" is the Number One Most Added song on R&B/urban radio stations this week clapping Looks like the guys have a hit single on their hands.

Well deserved...woot!

I heard it on the radio here in the Bay Area lol

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Reply #144 posted 10/20/11 1:46pm

funkomatic

A solid album, but in parts much too poppy for me.

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Reply #145 posted 10/20/11 3:38pm

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NouveauDance said:

There are some real throwback tracks that are done well in the way Prince has sometimes done like Lolita - Strawberry Lake obviously sits in the grounds of the Ice-Cream Castle, and If I Was Yo Man is really slick and hooky. The modern sounding tracks like Trendin' and Role Play range from white noise to icky and cringeworthy. Jam/Lewis haven't produced anything that's caught my interest in about 15 years at least, so anything that sounds like the stuff they would knock out recently for some bit of fluff or closeted crooner isn't going to appeal to me anyway.

I think overall, it isn't something I will be revisiting that often, the production values do not really appeal to me, but it does have a modern pop sound, so I think if it gets the exposure there's no reason why they couldn't have a mini-reneissance type hit or two (I use the term hit loosely, I know they're not going to be sitting atop the pop charts for months to come).

I'll be making a shorter version for the ipod, I think it could use a little pruning to weed out some of the weaker tracks (IMO). I know it's tempting to want as many tracks as possible if any artist has been MIA for decades, but I prefer an LP's worth of strong material to a CD crammed with filler.

Jesse's guitar really bring some of the tracks to life too, he might be the best thing about it. biggrin

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First unfavorable review hmmm

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Reply #146 posted 10/20/11 4:16pm

Abdul

Just got finished listening to the album and I like it, no surprise there biggrin

Condensate, If I Was Yo Man, GoHomeToYoMan and believe or not Hey Yo are my favs after just one listen.

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Reply #147 posted 10/20/11 4:32pm

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sextonseven said:

First unfavorable review hmmm

Don't take it that way, it's not a bad album per se - But I do not listen to current top 40 R&B/pop, so anything that goes that way - it does not appeal to me.

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Reply #148 posted 10/20/11 5:28pm

wonder505

LAWWWWWWWWWD HAVE MEEEERCCYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FORGIVE MY CAPS BUT I JUST LISTENED TO THE WHOLE CD AND NEVER IN A LOOOOONG TIME HAS A CD BLOWN ME AWAY LIKE THIS!!!!

JEZUZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

Yo, yall know I'm a Prince fammy fam die hard, but yo, this shit is the fucking BOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

WOOOOOOOOO.

Whether you are a fan or not, go......run and get this CD.

"If I was Your Man" "Sick", "Condensate" "Cadillac" "Lifestyle" even "Trendin. "Toast to the Party Girl ---which definatel has a Prince vibe....and One Step. Yessssss

Jesse ripped me to shreds on guitar, Monte on the keys is crazy and Morris's vocals is tight.

Those with kids MAKE your kids hear the CD lol. let them know what REAL MUSIC is. Not this Chris Brown/Trey Songz CRAP.

HAAAA I'M IN MUSIC HEAVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reply #149 posted 10/20/11 5:40pm

SoulAlive

^^I bought my 16-year old nephew a copy of the CD and he LOVES it.I urge everyone to introduce this music to the youngsters,so they can hear how it's supposed to be done!

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