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couldnt wait 4 new sade so made some quasi sade

then stumbled on the pure

yall know prince deal in triangulation as well as substitution. when prince was making elixir with bria he was missing the sensuality,passion,intelligence & sweetness that is the embodiment of andy allo. so when she materialized-he didnt have 2 think about it he just took her with him. subversive when you consider he was smack dab in the middle of a wildy successful tour. who but prince does that?

BlaqueKnight said:

I also can't help but wonder if

[img:$uid]http://i52.tinypic.com/33ylyt2.jpg[/img:$uid]Vanessa Marcil

reminded him of

[img:$uid]http://i53.tinypic.com/2psg9w7.jpg[/img:$uid]Ingrid Chavez

when he cast her in the Undertaker video.

[Edited 9/23/11 21:43pm]

[Edited 9/23/11 21:48pm]

pfan1978 sa

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couldnt wait 4 new sade so made some quasi sade

He even made an effort to dress her simularly and put a flower in her hair at the same time as big earings.

Don't you f*ckers DARE compare that...WOMAN to Sade!

I'm gonna have to eff somebody up around here! [img:$uid]http://emoticons4u.com/mad/1441.gif[/img:$uid]

U guys are going 2 give some of these woman plenty 2 think about with these comparisions and substitutions.

Very interesting.

BlaqueKnight said:

Don't you f*ckers DARE compare that...WOMAN to Sade!

I'm gonna have to eff somebody up around here! [img:$uid]http://emoticons4u.com/mad/1441.gif[/img:$uid]

who was born in west africa-the home country of their black father & has a white mother (who this singer moved in with at age 11 in her mother's native english speaking country)? who is a singer,songwriter,record producer,guitar player who plays jazz,r&b,quiet storm,soft rock and adult contemporary music? who is drop dead gorgeous? sade or andy allo? who knows if 22 year old andy allo will have the success of the best selling british solo female of all time but i can compare her 2 sade circa 1981 @ age 22 while in her band "pride" b4 her breakthrough in 1984.

[Edited 9/24/11 7:31am]

Graycap23 said:

Graycap23 said:

prodigalfan said:

Graycap23 said:

U guys are going 2 give some of these woman plenty 2 think about with these comparisions and substitutions.

Very interesting.

blaqueknight is killing me with these posts. Where does Mayte fit in? Is she in a long line of substitutes for Vanity? Like others have said?

Her face looks more like the face of Apples and he could not really have Apples sooo.

Now what about Manuela, he could not get Lena Horne so....

Part of this is knowing who he is really looking at in his private life. Another maybe is Beyonce/ Liza Hernandez. Liza was around the same time as his performance with Beyonce at the Grammys.

pfan1978 said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Don't you f*ckers DARE compare that...WOMAN to Sade!

I'm gonna have to eff somebody up around here! [img:$uid]http://emoticons4u.com/mad/1441.gif[/img:$uid]

who was born in west africa-the home country of their black father & has a white mother (who this singer moved in with at age 11 in her mother's native english speaking country)? who is a singer,songwriter,record producer,guitar player who plays jazz,r&b,quiet storm,soft rock and adult contemporary music? who is drop dead gorgeous? sade or andy allo? who knows if 22 year old andy allo will have the success of the best selling british solo female of all time but i can compare her 2 sade circa 1981 @ age 22 while in her band "pride" b4 her breakthrough in 1984.

[Edited 9/24/11 7:31am]

I was talking about Bria.

Sade NEVER worked with PRINCE. Everyone else I mentioned has in some caqpacity.

PRINCE tried to make Bria over into a fake Sade. BIG FAT FAIL on his part.

She does not count in the comparisons. She is not a substitution for someone else he worked with.

Like Anna Fantastic may have been his fantasy Cindy Crawford, she is a fantasy Sade.

Now leave my baby Helen OUT OF THIS THREAD! [img:$uid]http://www.free.../img:$uid] [img:$uid]http://www.free.../img:$uid] [img:$uid]http://www.free.../img:$uid]

BlaqueKnight said:

pfan1978 said:

who was born in west africa-the home country of their black father & has a white mother (who this singer moved in with at age 11 in her mother's native english speaking country)? who is a singer,songwriter,record producer,guitar player who plays jazz,r&b,quiet storm,soft rock and adult contemporary music? who is drop dead gorgeous? sade or andy allo? who knows if 22 year old andy allo will have the success of the best selling british solo female of all time but i can compare her 2 sade circa 1981 @ age 22 while in her band "pride" b4 her breakthrough in 1984.

[Edited 9/24/11 7:31am]

I was talking about Bria.

Sade NEVER worked with PRINCE. Everyone else I mentioned has in some caqpacity.

PRINCE tried to make Bria over into a fake Sade. BIG FAT FAIL on his part.

She does not count in the comparisons. She is not a substitution for someone else he worked with.

Like Anna Fantastic may have been his fantasy Cindy Crawford, she is a fantasy Sade.

Now leave my baby Helen OUT OF THIS THREAD! [img:$uid]http://www.free.../img:$uid] [img:$uid]http://www.free.../img:$uid] [img:$uid]http://www.free.../img:$uid]

HELEN???!!! Who is that??? I KNOW that is not Sade name??

[runs to google]

Edit:

LAWD HAVE MERCY!!! I didn't know... all these years. I'm thinking like Eddie Murphy's joke about her name "her mama named her Sadie... not 'Shar-day'... "

I didn't know that her mama REALLY named her Helen.

[Edited 9/24/11 19:11pm]

Deadflow3r said:

Part of this is knowing who he is really looking at in his private life. Another maybe is Beyonce/ Liza Hernandez. Liza was around the same time as his performance with Beyonce at the Grammys.

O.K. enough with the Helen/Sade vs Bria/Brenda

I think I hit upon a good one. Prince sings at the grammys with Beyonce in 2004 and then a woman named Liza Hernandez from Panama enters his life.

This is a great one for you blaqueknight. Look up pics of Liza and you will see a couple where, except for the oversized boobs, she is a dead ringer for Beyonce. I kid you not. There is one with her and a large group of women that reminds my of Beyonce in her destiny's child years.

BlaqueKnight said:

pfan1978 said:

who was born in west africa-the home country of their black father & has a white mother (who this singer moved in with at age 11 in her mother's native english speaking country)? who is a singer,songwriter,record producer,guitar player who plays jazz,r&b,quiet storm,soft rock and adult contemporary music? who is drop dead gorgeous? sade or andy allo? who knows if 22 year old andy allo will have the success of the best selling british solo female of all time but i can compare her 2 sade circa 1981 @ age 22 while in her band "pride" b4 her breakthrough in 1984.

[Edited 9/24/11 7:31am]

I was talking about Bria.

Sade NEVER worked with PRINCE. Everyone else I mentioned has in some caqpacity.

PRINCE tried to make Bria over into a fake Sade. BIG FAT FAIL on his part.

She does not count in the comparisons. She is not a substitution for someone else he worked with.

Like Anna Fantastic may have been his fantasy Cindy Crawford, she is a fantasy Sade.

Now leave my baby Helen OUT OF THIS THREAD! [img:$uid]http://www.free.../img:$uid] [img:$uid]http://www.free.../img:$uid] [img:$uid]http://www.free.../img:$uid]

you're right-sade is the truth & it was blasphemous 4 me 2 compare ne1 2 her bcuz there will never be another 1!!! kiss of life,maureen,cherish the day,jezebel,like a tattoo,no ordinary love,soldier of love,smooth operator,is it a crime,hang onto ur love & the sweetest taboo-that is real music!!!

pfan1978 said:

BlaqueKnight said:

I was talking about Bria.

Sade NEVER worked with PRINCE. Everyone else I mentioned has in some caqpacity.

PRINCE tried to make Bria over into a fake Sade. BIG FAT FAIL on his part.

She does not count in the comparisons. She is not a substitution for someone else he worked with.

Like Anna Fantastic may have been his fantasy Cindy Crawford, she is a fantasy Sade.

Now leave my baby Helen OUT OF THIS THREAD! [img:$uid]http://www.free.../img:$uid] [img:$uid]http://www.free.../img:$uid] [img:$uid]http://www.free.../img:$uid]

you're right-sade is the truth & it was blasphemous 4 me 2 compare ne1 2 her bcuz there will never be another 1!!! kiss of life,maureen,cherish the day,jezebel,like a tattoo,no ordinary love,soldier of love,smooth operator,is it a crime,hang onto ur love & the sweetest taboo-that is real music!!!

We cool.

This thread...

Any thoughts on Chelsea Rodgers? Who might she have been a sub for?

By the way, this topic is very interesting.

Deadflow3r said:

Deadflow3r said:

Part of this is knowing who he is really looking at in his private life. Another maybe is Beyonce/ Liza Hernandez. Liza was around the same time as his performance with Beyonce at the Grammys.

O.K. enough with the Helen/Sade vs Bria/Brenda

I think I hit upon a good one. Prince sings at the grammys with Beyonce in 2004 and then a woman named Liza Hernandez from Panama enters his life.

This is a great one for you blaqueknight. Look up pics of Liza and you will see a couple where, except for the oversized boobs, she is a dead ringer for Beyonce. I kid you not. There is one with her and a large group of women that reminds my of Beyonce in her destiny's child years.

Weird. That's just weird. A Panamanian Beyonce.

MadamGoodnight said:

Any thoughts on Chelsea Rodgers? Who might she have been a sub for?

By the way, this topic is very interesting.

yeah and what about Nona Gaye and Tamar?

I don't think he was seeing Chelsea though, he just wanted to get a model that looked like him imo.

BlaqueKnight said:

Deadflow3r said:

O.K. enough with the Helen/Sade vs Bria/Brenda

I think I hit upon a good one. Prince sings at the grammys with Beyonce in 2004 and then a woman named Liza Hernandez from Panama enters his life.

This is a great one for you blaqueknight. Look up pics of Liza and you will see a couple where, except for the oversized boobs, she is a dead ringer for Beyonce. I kid you not. There is one with her and a large group of women that reminds my of Beyonce in her destiny's child years.

Weird. That's just weird. A Panamanian Beyonce.

This is making me crazy because I have not figured out how to grab pics off the internet and post them and I can tell you that there are times when Liza looks like Beyonce with a boob job.

Man! There's draw or should I draws History on the last 2 pages!

[Edited 9/26/11 21:54pm]

Deadflow3r said:

This is making me crazy because I have not figured out how to grab pics off the internet and post them and I can tell you that there are times when Liza looks like Beyonce with a boob job.

just drag the photo from google (or whatever) into the reply box

Deadflow3r said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Weird. That's just weird. A Panamanian Beyonce.

This is making me crazy because I have not figured out how to grab pics off the internet and post them and I can tell you that there are times when Liza looks like Beyonce with a boob job.

Okay, here you go:

[img:$uid]http://media.soletron.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/beyonce3.jpg[/img:$uid][img:$uid]http://i44.tinypic.com/bgxobs.jpg[/img:$uid]

BlaqueKnight said:

Deadflow3r said:

This is making me crazy because I have not figured out how to grab pics off the internet and post them and I can tell you that there are times when Liza looks like Beyonce with a boob job.

Okay, here you go:

[img:$uid]http://media.soletron.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/beyonce3.jpg[/img:$uid][img:$uid]http://i44.tinypic.com/bgxobs.jpg[/img:$uid]

Thank you, I think you did I much better job in selecting pics that the male Prince fans will LOVE then I would have.

Beyonce and he performed in 2004 and I know that by 2005 he was putting some energy into Liza and ignoring Manuela a bit. I also see in Liza a certain very sexy (yet still sweet faced) quality that Beyonce has and that Manuela doesn't project.

[Edited 9/27/11 4:56am]

.....okay, but does this work for every protege? Maybe it's just a coincidence because he does happen to date girls who look similar to the last. Who was nona gaye and tamar subbing for then?

babyjubilation said:

.....okay, but does this work for every protege? Maybe it's just a coincidence because he does happen to date girls who look similar to the last. Who was nona gaye and tamar subbing for then?

There are a few that don't fit in.

Bria doesn't really fit in, but Bria pursued him.

Manuela doesn't fit in, but again she was a big fan of his.

I think the girls that seem to get plucked out of no where are the ones that are subbing for someone else.

I don't really get Nona Gaye. That was the time he was looking for a teenage wife. (He really has not gone after teens like that since). He was working her at the same time as Anna Garcia and Mayte Garcia. Anna was the whitest, Mayte was medium and Nona was the darkest. Anna seems to be the least musically gifted, Mayte somewhat and Nona the most talented.

Tamar was around the same time as Liza Hernandez and both of them are very different then his wife at the time, Manuela.

OMG

Deadflow3r said:

babyjubilation said:

.....okay, but does this work for every protege? Maybe it's just a coincidence because he does happen to date girls who look similar to the last. Who was nona gaye and tamar subbing for then?

There are a few that don't fit in.

Bria doesn't really fit in, but Bria pursued him.

Manuela doesn't fit in, but again she was a big fan of his.

I think the girls that seem to get plucked out of no where are the ones that are subbing for someone else.

I don't really get Nona Gaye. That was the time he was looking for a teenage wife. (He really has not gone after teens like that since). He was working her at the same time as Anna Garcia and Mayte Garcia. Anna was the whitest, Mayte was medium and Nona was the darkest. Anna seems to be the least musically gifted, Mayte somewhat and Nona the most talented.

Tamar was around the same time as Liza Hernandez and both of them are very different then his wife at the time, Manuela.

Anna can sing. She wasn't any less gifted, she was just less popular in the Princeosphere.

BlaqueKnight said:

Prince believes in substitution.

Breaks up with:

[img:$uid]http://www.vashtie.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Vanity_.jpg[/img:$uid]
Hires:
[img:$uid]http://www.vashtie.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Apollonia6019.jpg[/img:$uid]

(he didn't HAVE to go with someone who resembles V, he could have chosen someone else altogether)

Didn't get:

[img:$uid]http://sexcolection.com/thumbs/w190h250/de1/be39ec6266cff0087906664666ba6/o13_1.jpg[/img:$uid]
Rosario Gets:
 [img:$uid]http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j112/t1nh__yeu/281x211.jpg[/img:$uid]
DJ Rashida

Couldn't get:
[img:$uid]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vldIAWmqcA0/ThksVPiP5oI/AAAAAAAABXQ/AEACAqBXBmM/s400/esperanza-spalding-240.jpg[/img:$uid]EsperanzaNow he has:[img:$uid]http://www.thacommons.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/curly-fro.jpg[/img:$uid]Andy

And dare I say it:

[img:$uid]http://i55.tinypic.com/w99tf6.jpg[/img:$uid]Wendy [img:$uid]http://www.jaynedoll.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/susannah3.JPG[/img:$uid]Susannah

I don't want to open up a can of worms with that one but I know some have thought it at some point.....might be true - might not. Who knows?

I'm just sayin' - dude will find a substitute one ay or another.

... never thought of it that way ...

BlaqueKnight said:

Deadflow3r said:

This is making me crazy because I have not figured out how to grab pics off the internet and post them and I can tell you that there are times when Liza looks like Beyonce with a boob job.

Okay, here you go:

[img:$uid]http://media.soletron.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/beyonce3.jpg[/img:$uid][img:$uid]http://i44.tinypic.com/bgxobs.jpg[/img:$uid]

wow DFlower, you were right on target. I had not really seen the resemblance before. And Kudos to you Blaqueknight... you are King of picture googling.

Once again, a splendid job!

Deadflow3r said:

babyjubilation said:

.....okay, but does this work for every protege? Maybe it's just a coincidence because he does happen to date girls who look similar to the last. Who was nona gaye and tamar subbing for then?

There are a few that don't fit in.

Bria doesn't really fit in, but Bria pursued him.

Manuela doesn't fit in, but again she was a big fan of his.

I think the girls that seem to get plucked out of no where are the ones that are subbing for someone else.

I don't really get Nona Gaye. That was the time he was looking for a teenage wife. (He really has not gone after teens like that since). He was working her at the same time as Anna Garcia and Mayte Garcia. Anna was the whitest, Mayte was medium and Nona was the darkest. Anna seems to be the least musically gifted, Mayte somewhat and Nona the most talented.

Tamar was around the same time as Liza Hernandez and both of them are very different then his wife at the time, Manuela.

and forgive me if I am appearing naive... but I don't believe for a minute he was "involved" with Tamar or Bria. I guess they have that in common... they were associates who were for show... but not the real deal. Maybe they were there to conceal the truth... whatever that may be... but I don't get vibes that Prince was in love or in lust with either of these women... no matter how terrific, beautiful and well deserving they both are.

prodigalfan said:

Deadflow3r said:

There are a few that don't fit in.

Bria doesn't really fit in, but Bria pursued him.

Manuela doesn't fit in, but again she was a big fan of his.

I think the girls that seem to get plucked out of no where are the ones that are subbing for someone else.

I don't really get Nona Gaye. That was the time he was looking for a teenage wife. (He really has not gone after teens like that since). He was working her at the same time as Anna Garcia and Mayte Garcia. Anna was the whitest, Mayte was medium and Nona was the darkest. Anna seems to be the least musically gifted, Mayte somewhat and Nona the most talented.

Tamar was around the same time as Liza Hernandez and both of them are very different then his wife at the time, Manuela.

and forgive me if I am appearing naive... but I don't believe for a minute he was "involved" with Tamar or Bria. I guess they have that in common... they were associates who were for show... but not the real deal. Maybe they were there to conceal the truth... whatever that may be... but I don't get vibes that Prince was in love or in lust with either of these women... no matter how terrific, beautiful and well deserving they both are.

I don't think Prince's lyrics lie. "Sunday in the park" was recorded by Tamar and so was "kept woman". I don't think he was in love with her but I do think things happened that his wife would not approve of at all.

As for Bria, every crazy internet thing she has done has led me to believe he was sexual with her and then pulled away from her. Love them? No, not like Mayte but definately not platonic relationships. Just by the was Bria acted it was clearly not a platonic relationship in her mind.