The uninformed attribute too much regarding Prince to Larry. Larry is a great bassist - probably the greatest in rock history; certainly the greatest in funk. He was a integral part of Sly and the Family Stone. Respect is due, youngsters

I don't know the man but if TRC is the result of his influence then I gotta like him. I hear he's not a bad bassist either. Where's he from? Yeah, a third reason to like him.

ok i thought i said he was INTRODUCED to the faith in his youth,but i could have said he was a practicing jw and only YOU saw it...moving on.
bottom line in the man is perfectly capable of making his own decision,and for the record...muhammed ali practices orthodox islam(he's a Sunni Muslim)although he came into the faith as a NOI,he hasnt practiced it in a very,very,verrry long time.(actually the NOI dont even mention him anymore for reasons u all should know)
Sure some faiths do attach themselves to public figures,but give credit where credit is due,we're discussing one intelligent person.
queen627 u actually kicked ur rebuttal square in the rear...the guy was INTRODUCED to several religions in his youth...he made a conscious decision based on what he thought he needed as far as faith is concerned.i respect his decision and your opinion as well.

BE WILD

FACEOPHOBIA said:

Well I am certainly not uninformed, I have every book ever written on Prince, a shit load on Sly, and from what I have read they would have been better off without Larry, even if he is the best bassist in the world. I also have nearly every fan club publication and read all the music press.

I don't think it has anything to do with how informed one is, it's about opinions and impressions. My opinion is that he is a great bassist but has far too much influence on prince. The impression I have of him is not a great one. I am not claiming to be correct, but obviously some of the arogant prince sycophants know it all and I am obviosuly wrong because face said so. I am so sorry for having an opinion that differs from all the brown nosers.

I don't think much of him as a musician anymore. He was really nice the few times I've talked to him, but I am just not into his stuff. What's with the "mic off the bass" rig he was using live? It looked like he should be giving a sermon, not throwing down funk!

swiftyweb said:

Prince must have retired Larry 4 now? anywho, I myself like him. he plays bass real badd, love it, plus i love his deep voice that still "rocks" today! always LOVED sly & the family stone too. they had some cool songs. "hot fun in the summertime" is my fav, then "sing a simple song".

MiaBocca said:

:lol;

swiftyweb said:

ist of all prince has always been spiritual and religious and incorporated his faith in his music from vocals 2 his guitar solos so its not about hatin larry graham... im just glad 2 legends... (black legends) are workin 2gether in a positive way and tryin 2 add some light 2 the darkness we been in 4 quite some time...

estidog said:

hol up dere patna lol... larry graham is far far from a has been... he influenced and entire generation of bass players in funk and rock n roll... u might have an opinion but u gotta respect the man with the thumbs of steele and lenny is on his way 2 becomin a legend 2...

CocoSweet said:

Amen!

Essence said:

Maybe you need to start doing your research and reading between the lines, and then you'll understand what people like lovebird are talking about.

trufan4lyfe said:

that's a damned lie

oneken said:

DITTO!!!

I like larry...he is a very respectable man, very positive, awesome bass player...I like everything about him.

He is right on Princes level, meaning the friendship is equal. They need each other equally the same.
Prince has much respect for Larry and I think thier relationship is cool.

Some people hold a grudge against larry cuz they say Larry has "influenced" Prince into JW.

I say I give Prince more credit then that, If he is into JW its because HE choses to go that path.
Prince is not some puppet.

Those who dislike Larry, sure give him alot of credit and power over Prince, and even thou they say they love Prince, they sure aint giveing him enough credit of being his own man.

I think the Larry and Prince friendship is a life long thing...and I love it.

much better then some of those others who smiled n his face, and decived him behind his back...fakes.
Prince and Larrys friendship is true...strong...respectable...and healthy.
People need more friendships like theirs.

I can't even be bothered to argue with this one anymore. I know he can play bass damn fine, and I know Prince is a grown man. I have researched this, it's my job. I have read enough material about all involved parties to know what i am talking about. What I am talking about is an opinion, an opinion that some share and some don't. Those of you who do not think that I am entitled to an opinion just because it differs from yours (the sheep) probably voted for Bush.

No you said Returned to the faith of his childhood giving the illusion that he practiced JW as a child. I can read. Thank you.

I respect him as a musician. But I dislike him for getting at Prince at a vulnerable time and exerting his religious influence, and I hate what that influence has wrought in Prince's music and career. I also dislike him for the homophobic "Adam & Steve" comments he made during an advance listening party for TRC that was widely covered in the press.

I wish, like most of you, that Prince had not moved towards such a traditional/fundamentalist sort of religious view. And it wouldn't surprise me to find out that LG had lots to do with it.

However, Prince has said that LG is one of his best friends. I suspect that he has provided a lot of support during a tough time in Prince's life--would you rather that he had not had that support? Where might he be now? I hate to think about some possible answers to that question. In any case, it is rather unkind to say such nasty things about him, ya know?

tackam said:

We can all be a little unkind sometimes.

:wOOt: FINALLY, a HATE LARRY G THREAD!!! :wOOT:

SWIFTY!!

whazzup people! check it out.. i'mma say this thing right here.. Larry Graham is a gentleman and a human being, and a phenomenal bassist.. he is in the likes of Jaco Pastorius... he created his own unique style that everyone "now" copies when they want to Funk Out! Prince is going to get THE BEST! that is it!! most musicians are unique and sorta weird to folk! I have been a musician for years and have been told I am differnent or weird.. we musicians have different minds.. most are perfectionist! Prince is a perfectionist also.. and "no" it doesn't make us better at all.. truthfully it is annoying that our minds continuously run with ideas all the time. it doesn't matter how Larry Graham and Prince started talking or discussing THE BIBLE YA'LL!!! it is so funny to have people say J.W. this and J.W. that when they never took the time out to delve or study the scriptures! When I had questions about the J.W. faith guess what i did? I asked for answers and "researched the answer's thoroughly". Then I made my decision to associate with them. Because "my" personal research was conducted and noone was "telling" me what to think!! I value control a LOT as does Prince. I hardly think that he would listen without doing the thorough research to come to his mature decision.. For folk who don't like his decision or belief or who he chooses to HANG WITH.. get over it and move on. I liked prince b4 he was a J.W. and i like him now!! if he leaves the J.W. faith i will still like him! this hate stuff is exactly what Prince is talking about in his music! Cat's faking the funk by liking his music and then critiquing his crew?? please man. But as the bible describes.. there is not going to be many who listen or care about the truth of a thing. The lie is so much more easier to live by. No restrictions to any moral laws have gotten the country right where it is! No better then sodom and gommorrah! I applaud Prince for his decision or anyone else for that matter to change their path and live a better life for our creator! It is so much better to look in the mirror knowing we are trying to please him. despite what people say or think who wish to "live it up" so to speak. I only hope that the few who "try" earnestly to live moral lives don't tire out in this old tired world.
[This message was edited Wed Mar 26 16:30:35 PST 2003 by jojofran]

Wow, you must really hate yourself.

I live a moral life, I don't believe in God and I don't like Larry Graham. I don't steal, cheat, lie, harm or kill. I work hard, give to charity and pay taxes. Would you not say that I live a moral life? Just because you dislike something or don't believe in god does not make you immoral. Do gentleman hire hitmen to kill the lead singer of there band? Do moral men do all kinds of drugs and cause disruption all around them?

MiaBocca said:

nah dog, i hate the tired threads i be reading over and over again about "hate". but it's cool arnold'! i understand who and what is behind the hate. i'm not hating on swifty web at all.. swifty', check it out.. u probably didn't expect many people on this particular thread to come at you?? huh? well in my opinion you have a right to voice your sentiments...i have a right to voice mine's.. and i will.. especially when it comes down to someone doggin' someone else when they have mis-read or mis-interpreted a thing.. minds me of that show "big urban myths" on mtv! i don't hold my tongue on debate or discussion much. but guess what? if i am wrong or don't know what i am talking about... i listen... and try to learn.. and will do my own "thorough research".. people need to concentrate on love dog'. i love god. i am not perfect. i make MANY mistakes.. and ask God for help when i fall. since you don't believe in God i find it hard to believe that you are trying to talk about morality though... if there's no God in your eyes, u minus well live it up! there will be no judgement if there is no God.. who care's if you don't steal? minus well steal, lie, harm or for that fact kill... of course i'm being sarcastic.. but the very things u list that u don't do are the very things that the bible points out not to do as well.. kind of ironic?... and it also tells christians to pay their taxes.

I think people have mis-understood me, I don't know Larry or dislike him for any particular reason. There is just something about him that rubs me up the wrong way. Have you never seen someone on television and there just be something about them that you can't put your finger on, but it gets on your nerves? I love his music, I wish you where all from UK so you could come to my crib and we could party all night to the music of Larry Graham, I have enough of it. But I just can't watch him, he winds me up, when he starts talking, some of the faces he makes and his mannerisms get on my nerves. He probably is a really nice guy. I used the word hate a bit loosly because I have a tendency to exagerate, on on my bad days I say things that i probably wouldn't say on a good day. The truth is, I don't hate him, but I dislike his persona. I'm not here to cause trouble, i just wanted to know if anyone else disliked him. I am not consumed with hatred for him at all. At the end of the day, it's about the music and that has by no means suffered at the hand of Larry Graham. I have maintained throughout this thread that I think he is the worlds best bass player, he is an amazing talent. But he gets on my nervs. This thread was not started to get at any org members, and please don't think that I am uninformed. Music is my life, all my money is spent on CD's and books/magazines about music. From what I have seen of Larry I am not impressed by him, by what I have heard music wise, I am very impressed. there you go. I think nothing less that me and larry having a public peace make is going to satisfy you larry lovers is it . No offence was meant to anyone in the Org so please just take my comments as they where meant, my opinion.

swiftyweb said:

it's all gravy dog.. peace love and unity and all that stuff! i have my bad days.. man we all do. you probably had a "i'mma hate on larry graham day." hey he better then mark brown.. or brown mark.. but i have to disagree with u on the baddest bassist! that son son would be "jaco pastorius".. check out "continuum" off of his solo album..or "portraits of tracy".. www.jacopastorius.com

jojofran said:

Heavy Weather by Weather Report is an amazing album.